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Bill Moyers Volleys Back at Foxman's 'Reprehensible' Smear Tactics on Gaza

Posted by Lefty Coaster, Daily Kos at 6:40 AM on January 18, 2009.


Moyers' eloquent essay willfully misunderstood by the head of the Anti-Defamation League to score a cheap point. Moyers fires back.

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Following a kerfuffle over a "genetically coded" remark Moyers made on last week's Journal while addressing Israel's Attack on Gaza, on this week's Journal Bill Moyers explained his remark and gave his assesment of the Israeli attack on Gaza:

Bill Moyers Journal

Some of you were offended by my comment that "god-soaked violence" has become "genetically coded." Those words were obviously not sufficiently precise, I was not talking about a specific people but of the violence in the DNA of the human race, as the Bible itself so strongly attests.

So here's the lens through which I see things. From my days in President Johnson's White House onward, I have defended Israel's right to defend itself, and still do. But killing innocent people is wrong, whether in Vietnam, Israel, Iraq or Gaza. Sometimes a candid critic is a country's best friend.

 As the former Israeli soldier turned journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg, wrote in the New York Times this week, Hamas cannot be bombed, nor cajoled, into moderation. "Tanks cannot defeat deeply held beliefs," he wrote. No. Waging war on an entire population guarantees one thing: the radicals get what they want, and the innocents, on both sides, suffer.

Moyers also mentioned his response to a letter from Abe Foxman Director of the Anti-Defamation League that charged Moyers with being an anti-Semite. Here is that exchange:

Exchange Between Bill Moyers and Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League

Following Bill Moyers' reflections on the events in Gaza on the JOURNAL last week, Anti-Defamation League National Director Abraham Foxman sent him this letter:

Mr. Moyers,

In less than a thousand words, you managed to fit into your January 9 commentary: (1) moral equivalency between Hamas, a radical Islamic terrorist group whose anti-Semitic charter cites the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East and perhaps America’s greatest ally in the world; (2) historical revisionism, asserting that Canaanites were Arabs; (3) anti-Semitism, declaring that Jews are "genetically coded" for violence; (4) ignorance of the terrorist threat against Israel, claiming that checkpoints, the security fence, and the Gaza operation are tactics of humiliation rather than counter-terrorism; and (5) promotion of an individual, the Norwegian doctor in Gaza, who has publicly expressed support for the September 11 attacks.

I have seen and read serious critiques of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza, and I have disagreed with many of them. Your commentary, however, is different, consisting mostly of intellectually and morally faulty claims that do a great disservice to the PBS audience. It invites not disagreement, but rebuke.

On one point you are correct – "America has officially chosen sides." And rightly so. Fortunately for our nation, very few of our citizens engage in the same moral equivalency, racism, historical revisionism, and indifference to terrorism as you. If the reverse held, it would not be a country that any decent person would want to live in.

Sincerely,

Abraham H. Foxman

National Director

Anti-Defamation League

In response, Bill Moyers sent Mr. Foxman the following message:

Dear Mr. Foxman:

You made several errors in your letter to me of January 13 and I am writing to correct them.

First, to call someone a racist for lamenting the slaughter of civilians by the Israeli military offensive in Gaza is a slur unworthy of the tragedy unfolding there. Your resort to such a tactic is reprehensible.

Earlier this week it was widely reported that the International Red Cross "was so outraged it broke its usual silence over an attack in which the Israeli army herded a Palestinian family into a building and then shelled it, killing 30 people and leaving the surviving children clinging to the bodies of their dead mothers. The army prevented rescuers from reaching the survivors for four days."

When American troops committed a similar atrocity in Vietnam, it was called My Lai and Lt. Calley went to prison for it. As the publisher of a large newspaper at the time, I instructed our editorial staff to cover the atrocity fully because Americans should know what our military was doing in our name and with our funding. To say "my country right or wrong" is like saying "my mother drunk or sober." Patriots owe their country more than that, whether their government and their taxes are supporting atrocities in Vietnam, Iraq, or, in this case, Gaza.

Contrary to your claim, I made no reference whatsoever to "moral equivalency" between Hamas and Israel. That is an old canard often resorted to by propagandists trying to divert attention from facts on the ground, and, it, too, is unworthy of the slaughter in Gaza. Contrary to imputing "moral equivalency" between Hamas and Israel, I said that "Hamas would like to see every Jew in Israel dead." I said that "a radical stream of Islam now seeks to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth." And I described the new spate of anti-Semitism across the continent of Europe. I am curious as to why you ignored remarks which clearly counter the notion of "moral equivalency."

And although I specifically referred to "the rockets from Hamas" falling on Israel and said that "every nation has the right to defend itself, and Israel is no exception," you nonetheless accuse me of "ignorance of the terrorist threat against Israel." Once again, you are quite selective in your reading of my essay.

Your claim that "the checkpoints, the security fence and the Gaza operation" [I used the more accurate "onslaught"] are not humiliating of the Palestinians is lamentable. I did not claim that these were, as you write, "tactics of humiliation rather [emphasis mine] than counter-terrorism," but perhaps it is overly simplistic to think they are one and not the other, when they are both. Also lamentable is your description of my "promotion" of the Norwegian doctor in Gaza when in fact I was simply quoting what he told CBS News: "It’s like Dante’s Inferno. They are bombing one and a half million people in a cage." The whole world has been able to see for itself what he was talking about, and as one major news organization after another has been reporting, is reeling from the sight.

And, to your claim that I was "declaring Jews are ‘genetically coded’ for violence," you are mistaken. My comment – obviously not sufficiently precise – was not directed at a specific people but to the fact that the human race has violence in its DNA, as the biblical stories so strongly affirm. I also had in mind the relationship between all the descendents of Abraham who love the same biblical land and come to such grief over it.

From my days in President Johnson’s White House forward, I have defended Israel’s right to defend itself, and still do. But sometimes an honest critic is a government’s best friend, and I am appalled by Israel’s devastation of innocent civilians in this battle, all the more so because, as I said in my column, it is exactly what Hamas wanted to happen. To be so indifferent to that suffering is, sadly, to be as blind in Gaza as Samson.

Sincerely,

Bill Moyers

Foxman tried to mischaracterize Moyers' "genetically coded" remark claiming it was directed at Jews. Foxman also falsely accused Moyers of being ignorant of this conflict's Israeli victims. Foxman's attempt to manufacture propaganda at Moyers expense and intimidate the media backfired in Bill Moyers' case.

Attempts like this to intimidate opinion leaders like Bill Moyers are toxic to our Democracy.

 

 

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Israel shoots themselves directly in the head
Posted by: weathered on Jan 19, 2009 2:24 AM   
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Standing outside the gates to Heaven, they refuse to budge, demanding that God first find, identify and punish the assailant.

How do you say 'pathologic denial' in Hebrew?

Bill Moyer's you don't need to explain yourself, Abe can't hear you anyway.

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Israel's attack on Gaza is a war crime. Full stop
Posted by: Ka-bird on Jan 19, 2009 5:40 AM   
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I am so bloody sick of the lies, myths, and white-washing of Israeli hawks and their US supporters. For 60 years, they have used them to justify theft of Palestinian land, destruction of Palestinian villages and orchards, and the expulsion, murder and imprisonment of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian people. Gaza is simply the most recent and most blatant atrocity.
As for the old "antisemitism' canard, I note that some of the most vehement condemnation of Zionist Israel's crimes comes from Jews themselves. I only wish Bill Moyers had used even stronger language. His error was to have been too much a gentleman.

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well
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jan 19, 2009 8:15 AM   
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There is a lot made of Hamas's desire to see Israel destroyed. Not that I can actually agree with them on this, but given that so many were displaced from their homes 60 years ago and the sort of criminal assault we are seeing on Gaza today is it really surprising in the least that desire to destroy israel and kill israelis would exist, organize, and even get elected to office in the form of Hamas???

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» RE: well Posted by: otto
» Bill Moyers' response... Posted by: buffeliscious
» RE: well Posted by: hilaryuk
TERRORISM ?? IN WHOSE EYE?
Posted by: spratling on Jan 19, 2009 10:16 AM   
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Not surprisingly, Mr. Foxman skirts any mention or rationale for the human tragedy Israel has visited on the Palestinians, and strays into a semantic parsing of the subject. The issue of Israel's
war crimes and accountability is left untouched. As usual, the Israelis are the victims; thirteen hundred Palestinian dead, mostly civilians, and over four thousand wounded. Why? Because a people has grown weary of being exploited endlessly and kept prisoners on their native soil, that is, in refugee camps created so Israel could have its state! It's understandable that anti-semitism has been ratcheted up a thousandfold. The sad truth is that Israel never has, nor ever will give these people a state, or their freedom. Their objective is to occupy all of Palestine until they have ethnically cleansed the land to their satisfaction, allowing only that number of people who can be available
to do their manual labor, etc. Mr. Moyers deserves tremendous credit
for broaching the subject as a vox clamantis in deserto. Fortunately, people are fast learning through the internet, YouTube
in particular, how to distinguish between fiction and fact. We now know to relegate the major networks to fancy.

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This has always been confusing to me
Posted by: 4changenow on Jan 19, 2009 11:38 AM   
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I wish Alternet would have a series of articles that could explain in plain language, what happened historically.I have limited understanding but the whole thing seems to be made more complex with some kind of agenda that is hidden from the rest of us.
I understand that the Jews were given land in the middle east, that at that time belonged to someone else. The slaughter of Jews by the Nazis apparently woke up some collective thought and guilt that resulted in this decision to give the Jews this land. I really do not understand the issue that drives all this hate. I have read that Jews and Arabs had been able to live in peace with one another at one time. Is that true? Did someone take the Jews land a while back and we just helped to give it back? Is this strictly a religion issue? If it is just simply a matter of land then why doesn't the leader of the free world (USA) just give the Jews, say Texas and get this over with. If however this is about religion and some unprovable notion of entitlement then the God and Jesus I know do not give a rats ass about where Jesus was born. I think Jesus wanted love and kindness not lessons in geography. I mean no disrespect to either side but I really do not get it.

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If only Bill Moyers could lead us...
Posted by: buffeliscious on Jan 19, 2009 12:07 PM   
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His support of democracy and his refusal to bow down to propagandists and the human gears of the political machine are inspiring to say the least. Can we as a nation begin to trust this level of intelligence? Or will we continue to be more comfortable with ignorance, because we ourselves are insufficiently educated?

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stormy7
Posted by: STORMY78 on Jan 19, 2009 4:09 PM   
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2000+ DEAD PALESTINIANS

13 DEAD ISRAELIS 3 BY FRIENDLY FIRE

IS THERE ANY QUESTION WHO THE REAL BAD GUYS ARE?

I'M ONE OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO DO NOT SUPPORT ISRAEL.

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» Boycott all things Israeli Posted by: weathered
» Who the real bad guys are. Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» RE: Who the real bad guys are. Posted by: hilaryuk
» RE: stormy7 Posted by: koolwoman
Garyman
Posted by: gfbmpa on Jan 19, 2009 6:31 PM   
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So now, with the rape of Gaza over for a while, Israel's underlying strategic purpose is clear: Since Israel couldn't eliminate Hamas directly, it decided to punish and decimate the Palestinians who voted FOR Hamas. What a clever, ruthless, heartless strategy. *** Why now? Evidently so the party in power could remain in power, by showing up as 'national protectors' in Israel's upcoming election.*** War? What 'war?' this was Israel shooting fish in a barrel. If there were any justice, Israel's leaders would be indicted for war crimes, convicted and sent away for the rest of their lives. And the people of Israel would be put under occupation by foreign, hostile states, supplied by only a trickle of the resources needed for them to survive, and with chunks of prime land ripped away -- just as if they were Palestinians.***Whatever happened to your soul, oh Israel? When did it slip away and turn you into sadistic prison guards. Somehow, Israel, all of this Gaza stuff is going to come back and bite you, when and where it hurts the most. And we, your former friends, will not be inclined to lift a hand to help you.

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And Israel quietly pulls out as Obama is sworn in....
Posted by: overseas on Jan 20, 2009 1:55 AM   
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...doesn't anyone realise that on this exact date in 1981 IRAN released 52 Americans held hostage for 444 days, minutes after the presidency had passed from Jimmy Carter to Ronald Reagan. Iran, Israel, iraq, Afghanistan...the US uses them all as pawns and in the case of Israel the US is unwilling to use its clout over a pawn. And what about the significance of Iran? Obama better have more wisdom and more tricks up his sleeve than ever. He inheritsts DECADES of misguided policies on a host of issues. Good Luck Bro!

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Here are some more anti-semites:
Posted by: saadasim on Jan 20, 2009 3:23 AM   
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Mahatma Gandhi on Israel

UK Holocaust Surviver MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

Former Israeli Airforce Captain, Yonotan Shapira, speaks out

Jewish resistors

Top 5 Lies About Israel’s Assault on Gaza
Lie #1) Israel is only targeting legitimate military sites and seeks to protect innocent lives.
Lie #2) Israeli bombardment is a response to Palestinian rocket fire.
Lie #3) Hamas is using human shields.
Lie #4) Arab nations have not condemned Israel’s actions.
Lie #5) Israel is not responsible for civilian deaths because it warned the Palestinians.

Israel breaks cease fire July 2, 3008

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Shooting civilians is wrong, but what about letting them die?
Posted by: heinzib on Jan 20, 2009 3:32 AM   
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I agree perfectly with Mr. Moyer's criticism of the notion that in a war, civilians ought not be a principal casualty. At the same time, the bombs that were lobbed over at Israel by Hamas didn't have a direction that cared about who was going to be a casualty on the Israeli side.But that's not the point of this communication.
I focus back to when the Holocaust began, when civilians, mainly the Jewish people, were the targets of the Germans to be annihilated to the person.That also was allowed to happen by just allowing it to go forth. Not that we ought not do something corrective about killing innocent victims of Israeli aggression, but its also about time that we owned up to allowing the almost eradication of a people by just doing nothing, even in the media. Yes, the New York Times reported some of what was happening, but condemnation was not a part of trying to abort the cruel Nazi acts that were already taking place and others, even more vicious, that were forthcoming. Mr. Moyers, I deeply respect your views, and you are usually correct. But isn't it about time that the whole matter of allowing the death of 6,000,000 Jews, civilians, to take place as a part of what seemed to be a war?

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Oh Yisra'el…
Posted by: tikkun_olam on Jan 20, 2009 6:15 AM   
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Oh Yisra'el…

Oh Yisra'el my heart grows dim;
the news is looking terribly grim.
What are we doing on this whim?
Why are we out on such a limb?
Why do we fight
with such brute might?
It’s vicious and it’s just not right!

We stand for freedom - ask for peace,
we want the hatred to decrease.
We boast of wanting war to cease
and yet the killings still increase!
We justify
how we apply
the way we fight with blinded eye.

The terrorists are making gains.
We need to stop and use our brains.
Control our fear - pull back the reins;
they’ve got us by their balls and chains!
We look so cruel -
a martyr’s fool
as we stand up and lose our cool…

We wonder why we’re shamed and cursed.
We ponder why they think the worst.
We feel compelled and feel coerced
for it was they who lobbed one first!
But damage done
with bomb and gun
comes back to haunt us, every-one.

The terrorists hide in the crowd
They use their people for a shroud…
They’re wedged in conflict and have vowed
To die amongst the meek and proud.
These evil ways
set minds ablaze
igniting those caught in the craze.

We should fight back – but not like this!
We’re sinking in a deep abyss!
Our wanton killing now consists
of innocents not on the lists.
We know the ache
that pogroms make
they harm the guiltless in their wake.

My comrades and my fellow Jews
we have so very much to lose;
but most of all our hearts and views -
To do what’s right is ours to choose!
Let’s reach within
beyond the din
to God - where peace must first begin…

Let’s all remember where we’re from
lest we forget how far we’ve come.
Our outrage has now struck us dumb!
For Godly neighbors don’t succumb
to vengeance waged
by those enraged -
Far better ways can be engaged.

And so on this I ask your aid.
Please work t’ward peace – let anger fade
into a world where debts are paid.
How long for peace, have all sides prayed?
We must dispense
a new defense -
We've got to use some commonsense!

Robin Millstone Miller

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» RE: Oh Yisra'el… Posted by: koolwoman
WHAT??!!
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Jan 20, 2009 7:59 AM   
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"Attempts like this to intimidate opinion leaders like Bill Moyers are toxic to our Democracy."

Anyone such as this foxman et al, are toxic to humanity.

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Anti-semitism
Posted by: LeeAnnG on Jan 20, 2009 11:36 AM   
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I've often heard it said before that Arabic people as well as Jews are semitic. If this is true, then pointing out the vicious tactics of Israel and taking note of the suffering of the people of Gaza can't be anti-semitic. Or so it would seem.

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» RE: Anti-semitism continued Posted by: LeeAnnG
Israel more a millstone round America's neck, than an ally
Posted by: Garvagh on Jan 20, 2009 3:30 PM   
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Israel's periodic murderous rampages in the Middle East inflict great damage on the US, which of course tacitly or even explicitly encourages these periodic murderous rampages.
Israel is much more a millstone around the neck of the US, than an ally. It is Israel's misfortune to have a Zionist stooge occupying the White House for the past eight years because the US continues to block a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine.

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Israel is a lot like us
Posted by: willymack on Jan 20, 2009 5:15 PM   
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They use sledgehammers to swat files.

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Stop Israel from Murdering
Posted by: JonA on Jan 20, 2009 6:17 PM   
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Israel needs our free financial handouts, billions each year, to continue being the bully of the mid-east. Now that our Country is bankrupt, this would be an ideal time to sever the relationship and allow Israel to grow up and learn to live with others. How quickly they will learn without our subsidies. We have supported this very arrogant Country much to long. They must not be allowed to imprision and murder any longer. We can stop this!

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Violence in Humans
Posted by: LiveFree on Jan 23, 2009 6:38 PM   
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As Gandhi pointed out, the old Testment adage of revenge - "an eye for en eye" - if fully embraced by all humans would leave us all blind.

The question of which side is the terrorist is mute because starting from the beginning of the history of modern-day relations between Isrealis and Arabs both sides have committed atrocities against the other. As President Obama said, the time for recriminations is over and we must begin to build the foundations for a new era not just in our nation but around the world.

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