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Bye Bye Bush Buoys Americans Abroad

Posted by Steve Benen, Washington Monthly at 9:58 AM on January 16, 2009.


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You can now take that Canadian flag off your backpack ...

It's probably best to wait until there's reliable data to start making any meaningful conclusions -- the next PIPA study should be interesting -- but this report about American popularity overseas is encouraging.

From Jakarta to Johannesburg, Americans who travel or live abroad are finding that instead of being scolded about the Iraq war, the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, or U.S. climate change policy, they are being hugged when strangers hear their accent.

Now, I do find that a little hard to believe. Americans are being hugged? C'mon. I recall a Saturday Night Live bit with Al Gore a couple of years ago in which he joked, in a fictional reality in which he'd taken office in 2000, that the United States had become so popular that "American tourists can't even go over to Europe anymore without getting hugged." Are you telling me this has actually happened?

Hug skepticism notwithstanding, if the anecdotal evidence is right, I'm glad Americans abroad don't need to feel embarrassed anymore by their association to the Bush administration:

Many Americans interviewed in Latin America, Asia, Africa and Europe said that for years they have felt "targeted" by critics of U.S. policies. They said they often did not volunteer that they were American, and several said they even dropped the word "Ottawa" into conversations to try to avoid confrontations.

Now, even in countries such as Japan and Australia, where Americans were generally not taken to task over Bush policies as they were in Europe, Americans interviewed said they suddenly have new cachet. Some compared the feeling to the heady days after the fall of communism. [...]

David St. Onge, 57, a John McCain supporter who works in the pharmaceutical industry and was in Moscow this week, said he has noticed a change in how his Russian clients treat him.

"They seemed to think better of Americans because we elected a black man as president," he said as he walked through Red Square. "They think we're more enlightened now."

Andrew Leik, 40, an architect from Michigan living in Cologne, Germany, said that along with "it definitely being much easier now to be an American" overseas, he has noticed that German friends who had refused even to visit the United States are planning vacations there.

In France, Rick Parks, 64, a retired New York City public school teacher, said he has noticed gestures of friendship and "definitely a change in attitude" toward the United States. Gone are the days when relations with France were so testy that french fries were briefly renamed "freedom fries" in U.S. House cafeterias.

Parks said North African souvenir merchants at the landmark Sacre Coeur basilica in Paris smiled at him and hailed Obama's election as a victory for them all, saying: "You are our people."

A teacher from New York who lives in Prague said she no longer hesitates to tell people she is American. "Thank God! It feels better," she said. "The people I work with give me high-fives and say things like 'You can be proud to be from your country again.' "

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Posted by: Knowmad on Jan 16, 2009 10:38 AM   
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This Canadian flag cover is nothing new. As a Canadian, I did it on my first European trip back in the seventies; I was told it could get dicey if people thought I was American. I met many an American who did the same, or had no national identifier; I don't think I saw one American flag.

Hopefully that can change over time, now that those ridiculous, immoral child-criminals aren't in charge down there anymore.

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Argentina
Posted by: Fishbone Soldier on Jan 16, 2009 11:15 AM   
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When I arrived in Buenos Aires this past August, when I talked with people about politics, most of them were surprised that I didn't support George Bush or the Iraq War. They just assumed that because my country was doing something that I backed it.

But then the elections started to make a lot of news here. The idea that you could be an "Obama person" suddenly became a possibility. But at the same time, this economic crisis is greatly affecting them. They're not "blaming" America, on the contrary, they're rooting for us like crazy because the sooner we pull out of it, the sooner they will.

I'm still trying to speak Spanish with a perfect PorteƱo accent, but if someone asks me where I'm from, I proudly say Chicago (and often tack on, "The same city as Barack Obama", depending on how much I've had to drink).

Ramble On

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» Hahahaha . . . Posted by: Scientz
When I go to Europe this summer . . .
Posted by: Scientz on Jan 16, 2009 2:09 PM   
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. . . I'll go with my Canadian flag backpack, and a button attached to it that says "No, I'm not an American pretending to be a Canadian" and beside that, my trusty "Obama '08" button.

Should make for interesting conversation.

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Obama's Honeymoon Is Already Over in Bangladesh
Posted by: DrBrian on Jan 16, 2009 7:24 PM   
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Now that the NY plane crash has been blamed on Canadian geese, maybe it's a good time to get rid of the flags.

I work in Dhaka, Bangladesh. Obama's honeymoon here didn't last long; his endorsement of Israel's brutality in Gaza angered people already wary of him because of his hawkishness on Afghanistan. Most Bangladeshis are friendly to foreigners, especially ones they see as helpful, but they're disgusted with our foreign policy and doubtful of significant change. In other words, they've got it figured out.

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It's true enough
Posted by: nerotic on Jan 17, 2009 12:13 PM   
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I moved to Europe earlier this decade. Over the years the types of conversations and debates I've been a part of have been somewhat aggressive. But since November the tone has changed significatly.

At no point has it been personal, rather the question have been of the type, "how could your people re-elect this man?". This is a question that stems more from disbelief than disgust.

Europeans are far more educated about American politics than most Americans. One distinction they make very clearly is politics from populace. In understanding how our electoral system works they're very much aware that the American system can actually have more than 50% of the country not represented due to representation discrepancies created but the Electoral College. For these reasons it's never about us as individuals. It's also worth noting that Europeans are keenly aware that most Americans living abroad are in large part progressive thinkers and far more socially responsible than those living in the states.

A friend of mine sent me a great message the week that Obama was elected. It went much to the effect that the results of the election were simply amazing and he offered up his congratulations. The note finished with, if you ever think you'll see an Algerian President in France or a Gypsy Prime Minister in Spain you're mistaken. Enjoy the moment, all is forgiven.

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I BOUGHT GORGEOUS BRITISH TWEEDS. I WOULD WALK UP TO A BRIT AND SMILE.
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jan 17, 2009 4:24 PM   
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The moment he recognized my U. S. accent the smile faded. May I paraphrase George Bernard Shaw? Everytime an English speaker opens his mouth he makes an enemy.

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Tom Miller
Posted by: milltom on Jan 17, 2009 5:17 PM   
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Wearing a home-made (by a nice woman at the Oakland, California flea market) T-shirt I was greeted with smiles and "He's a good man!" in remote ethnic areas of the far north of Vietnam and Cambodia, and even in relaxed Muslim Sabah, Borneo - until the invasion of Gaza, when his silence made the Muslim world wonder as flags flew at half mast.

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Oh happy day....
Posted by: sheena2u on Jan 17, 2009 5:18 PM   
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enough said

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Why would you ever suggest I take my country's flag...
Posted by: chuckjs on Jan 18, 2009 2:39 AM   
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off of anything! How dare you. LOL J/K. I do understand what you mean with your statement but being a Canadian I am proud of my country and flag and it stays right where it is.

I surely hope America's image changes for the better. It will take time and a major change in foriegn relations though.

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You never needed to obfuscate your USA identity
Posted by: solitarysherlockian on Jan 18, 2009 10:02 AM   
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That is all BS...as I know firsthand. As an American who goes overseas a fair amount (about 3 months a year)--all you needed with a "Impeach Bush" button on your coat to get into a lively discussion about our boy president, cretin of Texas and Yale and Harvard. Never once, even in Turkey or France--were we hassled. Only sympathy from people who liked understood the government of a country does NOT always represent the best of its people.

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