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Obama and a Paucity of Progressives

Posted by Jane Hamsher, Firedoglake at 6:56 PM on November 23, 2008.


Obama is not a super progressive. But he may, be the most progressive person we could have possibly hoped to elect as President of the United States.

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Not a single, solitary, actual dyed-in-the-wool progressive has, as far as I can tell, even been mentioned for a position in the new administration. Not one. Remember this is the movement that was right about Iraq, right about wage stagnation and inequality, right about financial deregulation, right about global warming and right about health care. And I don't just mean in that in a sectarian way. I mean to say that the emerging establishment consensus on all of these issues came from the left. There's tons of things the left is right about that aren't even close to mainstream (taking a hatchet to the national security state and ending the prison industrial complex to name just two), but hopefully we're moving there.

Many people managed to convince themselves that Obama was a genuine, dyed-in-the-wool progressive at some point during the primaries.  For no reason as far as I could tell -- his voting record in the Senate was pretty much identical to Hillary Clinton's, and the people he surrounded himself with weren't exactly "outsiders."  But in the midst of the pie fights, that hardly seemed worth dwelling on for the pointless vitriolic arguments it would have engendered.

I'm actually modestly sympathetic to his current predicament.  There are an awful lot of entrenched interests who will quickly line up to sabotage Obama if they think their privilege is threatened before he's even out of the gate  -- we're talking about a group of bitter Beltway denizens, after all, who hamstrung Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter for populating their administrations with "outsiders" simply for the catty, junior high hell of it.  

Obama is going to have to keep these vultures somewhat quiescent if he's going to achieve any real change.

His isn't the administration I'd pick, but the proof will be in what he actually does.  If  for instance he sets up a panel to take on torture, opens up intelligence files and lets the public know how this horrible, malignant policy came to pass, it will go a long way towards assuring people that a choice like Brennan for CIA chief isn't just "business as usual."

Look, for people who convinced themselves that Obama was the second coming of Saul Alinsky -- wake up.  He never was.  He may, however, be the most progressive person we could have possibly hoped to elect as President of the United States.  

Your job, should you choose to accept it, is to help keep the obstructionists off his back and push him to fulfill his campaign promises to end the war, pass health care legislation and the Employee Free Choice Act, clean up the environment, reduce our dependence on foreign oil, repair our infrastructure, create good jobs and restore the middle class. 

That's what he promised us, and while I'm obviously not wild about the dearth of progressives in his administration (while anti-choicers like Hagel and Lugar are evidently a-okay), I'm less concerned with who he chooses to implement his policies than with his ability to ultimately do so.

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Jane Hamsher is the founder of FireDogLake. Her work has also appeared on the Huffington Post, Alternet and The American Prospect.


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A Matter of Perspective
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Nov 22, 2008 8:42 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Clearly Obama will be far better than Bush, and we're delighted that he has won the election. However, the hawkishness of his new foreign policy team is a matter of especial concern. It's our job to nudge him, and our congressional delegations, to implement progressive measures.

We've moved from far right to center-right; our perspectives are just skewed because the politicians and media have dragged the mainstream so far to the right.

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» RE: A Matter of Perspective Posted by: VZEQICVA
wait a few years
Posted by: jingles on Nov 22, 2008 11:45 PM   
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Pragmatically, these "centrist" monsters are necessary- a Kucinich style cabinet would get nothing done. In a few years, real progressives and progress will (hopefully) be phased in. This is Obama's hope. The elected officials who resigned their positions will have to run again to regain status, once they leave Obama's first cabinet.

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» RE: wait a few years Posted by: hotdog
» RE: wait a few years Posted by: left_libertarian
» RE: wait a few years Posted by: Bayardtom
Neocon Lite
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Nov 23, 2008 1:41 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Jingles, these alleged centrists are the same ones who retailed Bush's lies about Iraq and supported the war. The same ones who sat back and allowed war crimes, war profiteering, violations of the Constitution and citizen's rights to go on, and did nothing.

At best they are quislings, and more likely co-conspirators. Remember, extraordinary renditions, known as forced disappearances when people we don't like do it, were started by Bill Clinton, not George Bush. The Clintons adore landmines and cluster bombs.

Bill Clinton proved a bitter disappointment to progressives, and the only reason we're pleased with Obama's election is that he isn't Bush or the Bush-clone McCain. We got Neocon Lite instead of Neocon Extra Strength.

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Robert Reich.
Posted by: Longdream on Nov 23, 2008 7:30 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
He was standing there in that long line of advisors in the photograph that went everywhere.

He's been an economic advisor to Obama since late 2007, or even before.

Robert Reich defines the word Progressive, and some of the ideas Barack has espoused, such as the creation of jobs through green industry and urban renewal, were first heard in Reich's campaign for Massachusetts governor.

David Bonior was also in that photo, and is on the short list for Secretary of Labor. He advised Edwards before the burnout, and was the author of a lot of the Edwards economic positions which made sense. He's a supporter of organized labor, and would be invaluable in working with unions to salvage jobs.

So, there are a couple of Progressives who appeared on the scene, have had obvious influence, and who may have positions in government. There are some very important posts still vacant.

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» RE: obert Reich. Posted by: weathered
» RE: I don't get it. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: I don't get it. Posted by: Quannah
» RE: I don't get it. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: I don't get it. Posted by: weathered
» RE: Now I really don't get it. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Now I really don't get it. Posted by: weathered
» RE: Now I really don't get it. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Now I really don't get it. Posted by: weathered
» RE: Now I really don't get it. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: I don't get it. Posted by: Krotos
» RE: I don't get it. Posted by: polreport@live.com
» RE: I don't get it. Posted by: Longdream
And by the way...
Posted by: Longdream on Nov 23, 2008 7:41 AM   
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The author may be modestly "sympathetic" with Obama's "current predicament", but I think the predicament exists in her own mind and in the minds of a lot of premature nay-sayers, who can't even wait for the next administration to begin before they start spouting what amounts to mindless opinions about nothing.

We haven't come very far by taking our gospel from the basically uninformed, run-of-the-mill members of the, to coin a term, information community. If you want to start some change, let's change that.

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I expect the Clinton years to take place all over again
Posted by: Frank J. Burris on Nov 23, 2008 7:46 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I think the Democrats and Republicans play a game of good cop/bad cop with us. Both parties work against our interests, but standard liberals smile gleefully as Democrats carry out Corporate America's agenda.

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We need to stand up to Obama.
Posted by: leTerrassier on Nov 23, 2008 8:53 AM   
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We cannot sit back and say "he's better than Bush" for the next eight years. We have to put constant pressure upon all levels of government, and make our voices heard. Otherwise progress will be stalled indefinitely.

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For no reason as far as I could tell ...
Posted by: oregoncharles on Nov 23, 2008 9:42 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Wishful thinking, perhaps?

Just sort of liked the guy?

Shall I go on? I think there are more ways to say this.

Next clue: Larry Summers is chief economic advisor, just where I would have liked to see Krugman, or Galbraith, or even Herman Daly. It's a tip-off: those are the policies he wants to hear about. And it keeps Summers' foot-in-mouth disease a little out of sight. Clever - nobody said he was dumb.

No, he's a clever, charismatic Clintonite. No wonder Hillary is willing to work for him: he's just like Bill.

I just hope he manages to rise to the economic occasion, or it'll be a rough 4 years and a very short Democratic ascendancy.

Hamsher's article, incidentally, has a very odd, equivocal tone. Sort of like a worm wriggling on a hook. Just how strongly DID she support this blatant non-progressive?

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» RE: Roller Derby. Posted by: Longdream
Is it too early to say we should have elected Ron Paul?
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Nov 23, 2008 11:13 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Whenever everybody else is ready I will be there to say I told you so.

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THAT would be progressive!
Posted by: foreverhope on Nov 23, 2008 2:52 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
"Your job, should you choose to accept it, is to help keep the obstructionists off his back and push him to fulfill his campaign promises to end the war, pass health care legislation and the Employee Free Choice Act, clean up the environment, reduce our dependence on foreign oil, repair our infrastructure, create good jobs and restore the middle class.

You're so right. Barack Obama is ONE man, it's going to take all of us. Plenty of blame to go round, plenty to do.

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» RE: Democrats.com = They called Me A Troll Posted by: left_libertarian
» dirty shoes and me Posted by: foreverhope
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» RE: dirty shoes and me Posted by: foreverhope
If you had the chance to throw a pie in one politician's face...
Posted by: foreverhope on Nov 24, 2008 3:45 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...who would that person be?

I want to throw a pie in Joe Leibermann's sorry grinning face, I can't stand that meally mouthed bastard. How dare he speak against Obama and the dems at the repug convention and during the campaign. PIG! OINK! I find him particularly annoying and downright creepy as he rarely left McCain's side. Your turn, who would you throw a pie at?

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Change . . .
Posted by: covalentbonded on Nov 24, 2008 7:43 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Yes, the psudeo-"Progressives" blather, let's give Obama a chance cause he was the lesser of two evils. What they fail to understand (at least publically) is that simply rewards evil.

Let's see, we got Clinton as SoS. Wasn't her foreign policy judgement found to be lacking during the primaries? Suddenly she is . . . SoS?

Let's see, we got Geigner and Summers at Treasury. Ask Indonesia and South Korea how well these two "helped" them. And isn't Geigner part of the Paulson Cabal that seems to be having such success in remedying the "greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression". Were not both of these people part of the former Clinton administration where they helped to lay the foundation of the very crisis they are now going to fix.

Eric Holder had no qualms about helping Chiquita when it got caught playing patsy with Colombian death squads. Along with the Rich pardon?

There is no change here. it is the same-o same-o with a new face. Old wine in new bottles comes to mind. Along with the adage put forth by a Roman philosopher who observed that "For the poor only the faces of the masters change".

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» RE: GEITHNER, y'fuckin' idjit. Posted by: Longdream
ATH
Posted by: ATH on Nov 24, 2008 12:32 PM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Obama is not a progressive. He doesn't even claim to be. Also, anyone would seem progressive when compared to Bush.
Personally, I'm very disappointed in Obama.
He threw the 4th amendment out the window and voted to give the telecoms immunity;in doing so, he also lied to us, as he had promised to join in a filabuster to stop this action from even coming to a vote!
He has staffed his Cabinet with center-right politicians.
He hasn't ever supported holding Bush and his cronies responsible for their multiple war crimes and crimes against humanity.
NORML says his drug policy does not look
promising at all. He promised to end DEA raids on medical marijuana patients and dispensaries in States that had enacted medical marijuana laws, but will he keep this promise, or prove himself a two-time liar, and counting?

Dennis Kucinich is a true progressive.
That's why he was attacked, shut out of debates, just as his progressive republican counter-point Ron Paul was, and generally marginalized. This was done because the powers
that be knew that Kucinich was the real thing.

No true agents of change or progressives will ever be elected until we change the system. If one is not willing to tow the corporate line, he/she will not be elected.And we don't want him or her to tow that line!
AT&T and Verizon spied on you! Why keep using their services? Bush said if we held the telecoms accountable they wouldn't co-operate with the Gov't in the future!
Well, since they didn't hold them accountable, we should! If you have AT&T or
Verizon, switch to another company, like T-Mobile or even better CREDO mobile.CREDO will pay off your current contract and give you a free camera-phone! And make sure you write Verizon and AT&T and tell them WHY you have stopped using their services.
How we spend what little money we have
has just as much power, maybe more, than how we vote, or protest.

Our country is not so much about Black and White as it is about Poor and Rich; Obama
was half-white, highly educated, wealthy, and
obviously willing to tow the corporate line,
or he would NEVER have made it President. This
is not comforting to me.

We need a President willing to end
the stupid, wasteful, hypocritical War on Drugs, which is really a war on marijuana.They make too much money off the other drugs to mess with them too much...which is why marijuana arrests keep rising, while arrests for other drugs have fallen. We need a President willing to start closing the 700 bases we have around the World, which we wouldn't need if we had energy independence and took care of our planet
and its resources! We need a President willing
to prosecute white collar criminals in the same way the average man in the street is prosecuted. When do we ever see a CEO sentenced to ten hard years at a real prison?
They screwed everyone else over, let them get screwed, literally! We need a President who will amend the Constitution so that it says any non-Constitutional laws, whether in the form of Congressional legislation or Executive Orders, that conflict with the Constitution are automatically void, NO EXCEPTIONS...which should be the case anyway, since the Constitution is supposed to be the Supreme Law
of the Land!

That's progressive, and rational!

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» Kucinich Posted by: foreverhope
what about Lobby reform?
Posted by: Bearzerker on Nov 25, 2008 2:08 AM   
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special interests are driving policy instead of real people!

its long past time to real in lobby interests and solve this rather burdensome quagmire

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