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The GOP Asked People Online How to Rebuild ... The Results are Interesting (and Sometimes Hilarious)

Posted by Steven Reynolds, The All Spin Zone at 6:12 AM on November 12, 2008.


"Truck Nutz For All" came in at number four with 1,393 votes.
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The GOP gives a party on the internet and asks for suggestions on how to rebuild itself. No screaming Christian conservatives responded. The site was overwhelmed by the Ron Paul wing of the GOP. Well, there's also a Todd Palin fan in the top ten ideas, too. What a funny list, and it shows such incompetence by the GOP planners, too.

Rebuild the Party is a forum where they are seeking ideas on how to rework conservative ideas so as to, well, rebuild what is broken ... the Republican Party. They've finally allowed their folks on the internet to have their say. Republican constituents can also vote on the best ideas out there. So what are they saying, you might ask? Or, rather, what are they voting for in the realm of ideas? Let's see, we've got a top five thing going here, I think. From ideas.rebuildtheparty.com:

10. Step Away From the Drug War with 503 votes.

Evidently the libertarian wing of the Republican Party has spoken. The writer suggests that the Republican Party should be about FREEDOM! I think he's channeling Braveheart or something.

9. Embrace the FairTax as sponsored by Rep John Linder with 516 votes.

This author got the John McCain tax message.

8. Step away from the religious right with 636 votes.

Hey, it's a guy posting on a Republican web site who listens to me, a smart Republican who knows exactly what has ruined the Republican brand, the hate of the social conservatives. I think I'm going to teach him to say Radical Right Wing Conservative Clerics.

7. Enact The Fair Tax HR-25 3 with 775 votes.

These fair tax guys are really the radical fiscal conservatives, the Ron Paul types, don't you think? They want to tax consumption. I'll bet they don't call for taxes on internet porn and plastic sex dolls, though.

6. Small "c" Conservatives with 973 votes.

One more in the top ten deciding he's had it with the religious right. I have to say I don't disagree all that much with small "c" conservatives, as long as their goal is bringing more freedoms and rights to our citizens.

5. Abolish the Federal Reserve System with 1059 votes.

Hmm, I'm getting a feeling the Ron Paul folks have invaded Republican Central and set up camp. Could it be?

4. Truck Nutz For All with 1393 votes.

You don't know what that is? Well, it is an ornament you put near the trailer hitch of your Ford 150. The ornament resembles a full scrotum hanging down. I'm thinking this is an entitlement program sponsored by the Todd Palin Wing of the Republican Party. There are several other suggestions about truck nutz in the top 25 on the list.

3. Fiscal Conservatism, Limited Government, Constitutional Rights with 1584 votes.

This guy is with that small "c" guy, I think. He rails against fiscal mismanagement by the Bushies and their GOP cohorts in Congress. And he's not taking whiny excuses for their behavior at all.

2. Make Room for Libertarians, Boot the Neocons, with 1866 votes.

Gee, the libertarians don't like the incompetent neocons? Who would have figured that out?

1. Reach out to Ron Paul and the Campaign for Freedom with 2757 votes.

Yeah, that's the big winner, the Ron Paul wing of the Republican Party, and that pretty much implicitly lays the blame for our economic situation on the Bushies, the blame for the war on the Bushies, and the blame for our restricted freedom on both the Bushies and the Radical Right Wing Christian Clerics.

What's interesting here is that a whole bunch of the top ten suggestions for rebuilding the Republican Party advocates almost none of what the Republican Party is right now. Not one of those suggestions focuses on God, guns, gays or abortion. Not one wedge issue in the bunch.

I'm inclined to agree that this is a good recipe for rebuilding the GOP, though it appears the suggestions were all submitted by whack jobs. Coincidentally, voted for by whack jobs, too.

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It is interesting...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 12, 2008 6:31 AM   
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It is interesting how NOW and only now Ron Paul is getting much play at all. He was ignored by the media for the entire election season, and now he even has a commentary carried by CNN.com.

I'd say they are onto something here, though I disagree with a good bit of the Libertarian system.. If we are going to still have government, then we need a government with the power to regulate and protect the people from corporate power.

WE need more freedom, but corporate entities do not need all the same freedoms.

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Thanks for all the condescension
Posted by: nc green on Nov 12, 2008 6:32 AM   
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Really elevates the level of discourse.

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Repubs sick of Corp Whores and the Inquistion too
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 12, 2008 7:08 AM   
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YEAH!!!!
But let's get something straight about the Democratic party WE have made it VERY clear over the last 3 elections OUR right Wingers are on their way out Too....The DLC- another Big Loser again. Haven't the Clintons and their psuedo Dems (aka 'Reagan Democrats') figured out the Democrats HATE Reagan and We have Rejected their 'Third Way' Bullshit appeasement of the Corporate Model?The DLC has LOST 3 times,because the Base Rejects your doctrine of Corporationism. Have no doubt a good number of Dems HATE the DLC and are pissed the put up these lame ass excuses for Dems in '00 & '04. Yes Gore & Kerry Sucked and every Dem knew it!We voted for the lesser of the two evils- but had to hold our noses from the stench!
There is also a sect of the Far left which need to get a grip too,their self righteousness is a counterproductive and Myopic as the Religious Rights,ie PETA and the BS 'Union' vs "Marriage" crowds. If the legaility is the same Who fucking cares what it's called. And Vegans...We are designed as Omnivores- so your attempt to make us all vegatarians is not only ridiculous, but will fail because it is UNnatural for Our Species!

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uh...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 12, 2008 7:40 AM   
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Outside of the truck thing.. what about any of this is hilarious???

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» RE: uh...dunno Posted by: ranchero42
» RE: uh... Posted by: Dak
» There are blue ones, too! Posted by: indradawn
» RE: There are blue ones, too! Posted by: maglindracia
Encouraging!
Posted by: Yesican on Nov 12, 2008 8:49 AM   
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Guess if the conservatives reject them too..the extreme "wackos" will have to form their own party!

I'm progressive, but I thought Ron Paul made a lot of sense on some things.

Wouldn't it be nice too have two parties with clear cut, sensible differences? Are we finally growing up?

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» RE: ncouraging! Posted by: Quannah
» RE: ncouraging! Posted by: maglindracia
Steven Reynolds sounds like a kindergartner...
Posted by: channing on Nov 12, 2008 8:55 AM   
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Steven Reynolds sounds like a kindergartner who receives a complex high-end train set for Christmas and starts throwing the cars around like footballs because they're shaped that way and have good throwing weight...

The substance of the post, informing alternetters what the Rebuild the GOP website is producing is fine, but Reynolds' genuine naivete with regards to the future Republican brand, a brand that will be built on the only populist notions they have, will actually be a player in the near-term due to factors outside politics, much sooner than you think.

10. Step Away From the Drug War with 503 votes.

Stepping away from the drug war would save the nation untold billions, reverse a huge police-state assault on Constitutional Liberties and put nature's drugs up against big-pharma's laboratories. 2-1 odds Republicans champion this before establishment dems do.

9. Embrace the FairTax as sponsored by Rep John Linder with 516 votes.

The problem with this bill isn't that it taxes consumption rather than income, but that it doesn't tax financial transactions, banking, insurance, futures, markets. Instead of 23% personal consumption tax, including all currency transfers would lower the percentage to a 1-2% tax across the entire spectrum of financial activity... anyone watching their wealthy-trader friend constantly moving millions of dollars around and only paying ANY TAX when profits cannot be hidden knows why this will eventually replace the current mess.

8. Step away from the religious right with 636 votes.

This is laughable?

7. Enact The Fair Tax HR-25 3 with 775 votes.

A variation on the above.

6. Small "c" Conservatives with 973 votes.

No brainer, everyone knows extremism blew it, what's so funny?

5. Abolish the Federal Reserve System with 1059 votes.

Government takeover of our currency from the Federal Reserve is Constitutional, but is also almost inevitable following the bottom we've yet to hit. Trillions in diluted currency and off-shoring will hit the American consumer in a big way after the election, then the fallout from military spending reductions will hit a major prop of the current US middle class, then a gob of borderless-billionaires with their wealth tied up in the $35 Trillion Dollar Credit Default market that will have to be CLOSED because it is now recognized as a pure and simple Shell-Game and no major power in the world will or can afford to allow it to continue... on and on, Americans will re-discover the virtue of Constitutionally-Mandated government-owned and operated currency soon enough.

4. Truck Nutz For All with 1393 votes.wtf?

3. Fiscal Conservatism, Limited Government, Constitutional Rights with 1584 votes.

This will be the future platform of the GOP that will emerge strong within 18 months to challenge the next election, like it or not.

2. Make Room for Libertarians, Boot the Neocons, with 1866 votes.

"Liberals" have friends on the right and should find consolation that the new righties share these two sentiments not only with us but the world as a whole. What's so funny about that?

1. Reach out to Ron Paul and the Campaign for Freedom with 2757 votes.

Ron Paul was the GOP's only populist, the only conservative republican, with a campaign platform that was almost identical to Dennis Kucinich's populist platform on all the important non-Faux issues as reflected in many polls... Reynolds can laugh away, but a fresh mindset has been emboldened that's going to throw both entrenched parties and their leadership out if we don't get our country, our currency, our liberties.

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What this shows me...
Posted by: Quannah on Nov 12, 2008 8:58 AM   
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is the Republics are even more fractured and disorganized than I thought.

They should have known better than to put up a website asking for real suggestions. It's an "Open" sign for all the wackos and lunatics to post their boneheaded ideas.

This is a good sign. ;-)

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» RE: What this shows me... Posted by: ohb0b
» RE: What this shows me... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: What this shows me... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: What this shows me... Posted by: Longdream
Steven Reynolds sounds like a kindergartner... II
Posted by: channing on Nov 12, 2008 8:58 AM   
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Finally, as per Reynolds,

"I'm inclined to agree that this is a good recipe for rebuilding the GOP, though it appears the suggestions were all submitted by whack jobs. Coincidentally, voted for by whack jobs, too."

Did you miss Logic 101?

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Libertarians need to learn to work within the artificial contrivances...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Nov 12, 2008 9:17 AM   
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...of borders, currency, government etc.

Pure libertarianism is a great place to start from. When you begin to do things in a collective nature, i.e. build roads, fund policing activities, decide military spending, engage the rest of the 5.8 billion people in the world, you have to think outside the "we're all strictly individuals" box.

We are, strictly, individuals--we've just chosen to integrate ourselves into larger systems. Libertarian ideology, if it is ever to grow and prosper, has got to embrace this reality.

Like most Americans, as a matter of personal greed, I'm for whatever keeps 'food on my family', staves off the failure of so-called "social security" until after I'm dead, and gets me the most bang for my buck for the things I decide to spend on. Libertarians need to propose a plan beyond immediate greed, that will engage young workers who will be betrayed by social security, who will be betrayed by medicare, who will be betrayed by pie-in-sky idealism that leads to failures of policy that they will bear the debt for.

Good luck. The older folks get, the more involved, and the more greedy they become as their potential wanes. That's human nature. They protect theirs now, protect yours for the future!

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You missed the best option
Posted by: Pop on Nov 12, 2008 9:31 AM   
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Pack up about three quarters of the congress and send them to Israel whom they represent very too well. We urgently need representation for the people here.

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» RE: You missed the best option Posted by: phatkhat
The Truck Nutz contingent is the most relevant,
Posted by: Longdream on Nov 12, 2008 9:34 AM   
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considering that the party was just castrated.

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whats the problem, steven reynolds?
Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Nov 12, 2008 10:08 AM   
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ive been struck dumb by your ridiculous criticism of the ron paul platform. he is a friend to the progressive movement! whats wrong steven reynolds? afraid of some real competition? if the conservos suddenly got serious on a realistic policy the dems would sure get a run for their money! i think that working together with the new traditional right can forward the progressive agenda, instead of making fun of them.

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» RE: a little clarification Posted by: channing
» RE: Very little clarification Posted by: Longdream
Conservatism is not going away!
Posted by: violawall on Nov 12, 2008 10:42 AM   
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If you haven't heard, 65% of people polled during the election consider themselves to be conservative.
Vi

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Dream Ticket
Posted by: psychobob on Nov 13, 2008 6:00 AM   
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I keep wanting to see the dream ticket of Ron Paul and Ru Paul.

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» RE: Dream Ticket Posted by: Longdream
How to fix our economy
Posted by: cori on Nov 14, 2008 7:52 PM   
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Get rid of the 761 bases around the world and force Europe to finance their own security.
Make a laws against private corporations using our tax dollars to enrich themselves.

Get rid of huge tax cuts for the rich.
Revive labor laws that protect American workers. Make laws to prevent business from leaving for cheap labor.

Make laws against legal bribery of our representatives that are against our national interest.

Close tax loop holes for corporations and the ulta wealthy.

Have a single payer health care system that will also free business from having to pay health care.

Raise the caps on social security so everyone pays into the system.

Repeal the billions of our tax dollars to drug and health insurance companies.

And regulate Wall Street so it's not able to rip us off for billions as they have just done and make laws that put caps on how much CEO's can pay themselves and take out of an industry for themselves, especially ones that represent ten's of thousands of jobs.

Make laws that protect employees pensions.

Get out of Iraq and Afganistan. We can beef up our security here and use intelligence to beef up security overseas. We will never exterminate every terrorist.

Helping those people would make them love us and cost less and millions of innocent people would not have to be killed for profit for arms dealers.

Reform the prision system so we are not paying 40,000 per yr for non violent offenders and use the money to help people get on their feet and be able to contribute to society.

Reduce the cost of college so students don't spend all their time paying off their loans.
Tax 50 cents on every stock transaction to raise billions.

Make laws limiting the military complex from making huge profits selling arms using our tax dollars.

Make cars much more fuel efficient and put the best minds to work to solve global warming.

In Spain they are providing electricity to the entire city of Sevilla using reflecive sunlight on a huge magnifer that can also store energy and its spreading across Europe. Its completely clean and there is not waste.

Make going green an economy imperative.

And finally put limits on military spending that will create a new arms race and cost ten's of billions of our tax dollars to enrich the arms manufactures. If all of this was done we would be swimming in cash and everyone would prosper.

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» RE: How to fix our economy Posted by: Bill in Detroit