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What's Next for Joe Lieberman, and Why It Matters

Posted by Jane Hamsher, Firedoglake at 8:58 AM on November 11, 2008.


Lieberman's future may be decided by secret ballot.

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Newsweek's Howard Fineman on Keith Olbermann:

[Obama's]  going to leave it up to a vote I think.  What my sources tell me is that there's likely to be a vote next Tuesday. The Senate Democrats will caucus when they come back for the lame duck session.  They'll all go into a room, Joe Lieberman will make his case for maintaining his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee, then there will be a secret ballot vote.

Obama's opinion is sort of on record via Harry Reid, and we'll see how it goes. 

Interestingly, people like Dick Durbin who is the first Democrat in the Senate -- the first Senator, and from Illinois, to support Barack Obama -- is really loaded for bear about Lieberman, he wants to kick Lieberman off that Chairmanship. Chuck Schumer, the head of the Campaign Committee likewise.

So it could be a very close vote, and it'll be left to the secret ballot of the Senators. You've got Evan Bayh and you've got Chris Dodd who are supporting Lieberman, but there are a lot of other people who are still angry at him for the very comments you were talking about just a little while ago.

One point I think needs to be made.  This isn't about Joe Lieberman maintaining membership in a country club as a matter of feel-good "bipartisanship."  There's actually a job that needs doing here, and when Chris Dodd and Evan Bayh say that they want Lieberman to retain his chairmanship, they are saying that the extraordinary waste, graft, greed and cronyism that have built the Department of Homeland Security to a bloated, ineffectual taxpayer-funded behemoth under Joe Lieberman is just fine.

Here's Naomi Klein from the Shock Docrine:

In just a few years, the homeland security industry, which barely existed before 9/11, has exploded to a size that is now significantly larger than either Hollywood or the music business. Yet what is most striking is how little the security boom is analyzed and discussed as an economy, as an unprecedented convergence of unchecked police powers and unchecked capitalism, a merger of the shopping mall and the secret prison. 

No-bid contracts kept from public scrutiny in the name of "national security" have built a department of unprecedented waste and theft, all rubber stamped and protected from Senate investigation by Joe Lieberman's chairmanship.  And what has it gotten us?  Nothing.  Basically, the Department of Homeland Security became just another front for the military industrial complex to feed off American taxpayers while neocons like Lieberman screamed "terror terror terror, just trust us."

The FY 2009 budget request for the Department of Homeland Security is $50.5 billion, a 6.8% increase over 2008.

What Bayh and Dodd are saying is that they like Joe so much that this is a small price to pay, that the status quo is just fine and that there is no real need for change.

I wonder if taxpayers agree that $50.5 billion is chump change so long everyone can still sing kumbaya on the Senate floor?

Good for Schumer and Durbin for putting public stewardship over old-boy clubbiness and saying "no."

You can call your Senators here.

You can sign a letter telling Senators to strip him of his Committee Chairmanship here.

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Jane Hamsher is the founder of FireDogLake. Her work has also appeared on the Huffington Post, Alternet and The American Prospect.


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Bayh and Dodd
Posted by: Lauren on Nov 11, 2008 10:15 AM   
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What Bayh and Dodd are saying is that they like Joe so much that this is a small price to pay...

I don't know much about Bayh but since he was running for president I looked Dodd up and decided no matter what pretty things he might say about preserving our constitutional rights, he was NOT acting like one of the good guys. His record on the drug war was not good and I got an overall feeling of deception. This story just backs that up.

I would consider them all in a criminal conspiracy until there is evidence otherwise and even then you have to consider it could be planted to throw us off the trail. They are not stupid.

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» RE: Bayh and Dodd Posted by: Xynyx
Lieberman - Zell Miller -- what's the difference?
Posted by: jebpgh on Nov 11, 2008 10:20 AM   
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There's a line that should not be crossed. Joe crossed it many, many times. To me he is no different than Zell Miller and he should be ousted from his chairmanship and from the caucus. You might as well publish all the caucus discussions on line for the GOP to read if you leave him in the room.

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If they keep him...
Posted by: Lauren on Nov 11, 2008 10:20 AM   
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then what?

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» RE: If they keep him... Posted by: Xynyx
More terror, more terror, alas
Posted by: Juven on Nov 11, 2008 1:29 PM   
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You have to wonder how we fell into this rabbit hole. How did we allow these people to get everything they wanted? What the hell happened?

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Friend or Enemy!
Posted by: bobtr900 on Nov 11, 2008 3:51 PM   
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With friends like Lieberman who needs enemies. Lieberman is a DINO. Wake up you Dem pols. Lieberman, the wolf in sheep's clothing, is at your/our door.

I completely agree with this article by Hamsher. Naomi Klein is, also, so totally correct, as usual.

Lieberman has to go, and for a variety of reasons. Let the Repugs have him, they won't trust him either. Lieberman will become a pol without a home. And the good people of Connecticut will vote him out in his next election. Ned Lamont, if your reading this, be at the ready and run again against Lieberman, once more. You'll win. Connecticut won't be so scared the next time.

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Purge incumbents, they're dirty
Posted by: weathered on Nov 12, 2008 4:08 AM   
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If they've been in office more then 1 term, they're damaged goods. Next>

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