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Republicans Draw the Line: If You're Against Palin, You're Dead to the Party

Posted by Jason Linkins, Huffington Post at 4:24 AM on October 28, 2008.


"There's going to be a bloodbath ... the litmus test will be: where did you stand on Palin?"

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With the GOP looking more and more set to fracture as the possibility of electoral defeat looms, the cannibals' knives are out. Consider this quote, via Yglesias:

Jim Nuzzo, a White House aide to the first President Bush, dismissed Mrs Palin's critics as "cocktail party conservatives" who "give aid and comfort to the enemy".

He told The Sunday Telegraph: "There's going to be a bloodbath. A lot of people are going to be excommunicated. David Brooks and David Frum and Peggy Noonan are dead people in the Republican Party. The litmus test will be: where did you stand on Palin?"

Hold it now. They're serious about going all in with the Palin loyalty test? Uhm...apparently so! Nuzzo adds:

He said: "Win or lose, there is a ready made conservative candidate waiting in the wings. Sarah Palin is not the new Iain Duncan Smith, she is the new Ronald Reagan."

Yowee. So, for the sake of Sarah Palin -- who many conservatives correctly assessed as the candidate-born-yesterday -- a whole slew of Republicans-in-good-standing are going to be thrown under the bus? That's a serious civil war, or rather, a war betwixt the Serious and the Un-Serious. Keep in mind that Palin's critics are not marginal figures in the conservative movement. We're talking the aforementioned Brooks and Noonan and Frum, and we're adding Christopher Buckley, George Will, Kathleen Parker, Colin Powell, Charles Krauthammer, Matthew Dowd, and for the sake of argument, we'll throw in Chuck Hagel, Andrew Sullivan, and Christopher Hitchens, even though I hesitate to pin any of them to any sort of doctrinaire conservative group.

This is, indeed, a "bloodbath," and for what? A distinctly semi-pro Alaskan governor who's more or less made the charisma-free Tim Pawlenty look like What Could Have Been?

Additionally, this sort of line-in-the-sand drawing avoids another obvious truth -- come 2012, someone besides Palin is going to vie for the GOP nomination. Someone like, say, Mitt Romney, who famously earned the backing of the National Review, which called him a "full-spectrum conservative." What happens to Romney, now that he's on the wrong side of the Palin line? Because that's where he is:

Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House, have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election. "Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012," says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. "The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He's in charge on November 5th."

[...]

Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a "diva" and was going off message intentionally. The former and current Romney supporters further are pushing Romney supporters for key Republican jobs, including head of the Republican National Committee.

If I read this right, the GOP is set splinter into a trio of factions: the Palin-philes, the Romney remainders, and those excommunicated from the movement for daring to make a lick of sense at one point. Fitting isn't it, that a McCain loss might precipitate his party coming to resemble the factionalism of the Iraqi misadventure they all cooked up in the first place. Maybe Joe Biden can help them reach some sort of triple-partition solution!

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Jason Linkins is an associate editor at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, DC.


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Never underestimate what a small group of insane single-minded people can accomplish
Posted by: Jasonix on Oct 28, 2008 5:24 AM   
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Palin is not just the Republican candidate - she's the anointed messiah of the most radical wing of Pentecostalism. There is even video of her being literally "anointed" by African Pentecostal leader Thomas Muthee, who delivered a call for Pentecostals to take over society's institutions before laying hands on her. These people have long prophesied that God means plans to have them take over the socio-political institutions of society. Palin's ascendancy isn't just one of their own making good - it's a fulfillment of the words of their "apostles" and "prophets."

When McCain fails in November, these people won't say that their prophecies of a Pentecostal theocracy were false. No, they'll say it was God's plan to position Palin for the top of the ticket in 2012.

The Neocons have cut deals with fundamentalists for a long time, but the Toronto Blessing/New Apostolic Reformation crowd is more akin to the Unification Church or the Japanese AUM cult than to the Southern Baptists. How can the Neocons make deals or manipulate people who are simultaneously too stupid to understand the deals they're being offered, and too obtusely self-righteous to even listen to the words of others? With Palin, we may finally have a true theocratic take-over of the Republican party. Let's hope that the Republican party will break apart and Palin's faction will become a fringe group like the Constitution Party.

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Democrats will Aid Old School Republicans in Recapturing their party
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 28, 2008 5:46 AM   
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As a 45 yr old Life long Dem, I have watch both parties be infiltrated and contaminated by the same doctrine using the extremes as their 'moral ' justification for the last 3 decades.
What has infected both is the Corporate doctrine. On the 'Right' they ignited the Uncompromising Religious zealots and on the Left the Self Righteous activists. Both go to outrageous means to make their myopic ideologies heard...Pro life Bombs Clinics, militant 'enviros' Spike trees. Same type of mentality and often the same lunatic tactics.
Ever wonder WHY the auto industry Jumped on Ethanol? Yet left the elctric car on the shelf for Decades? Amazing how fas tthey could get the entire processing and retooling down, plus the filling stations to carry it.
Well lets start with Who was drum beating for Corn for fuel...Short sighted Ideologues. Who didn't realize using a food source would casue the price to skyrocket and cause Shortages?
so the Auto industry appeased this naive group, Not only to get the immediate Kudos from them, but to also be able to point the finger at them when the reality of the Fuck up became apaprent. "Gee We were doing what you environemntalist wanted, It's your fault.We told you we need to stay on Oil" thus Legitimaizing their own Goals (Keeping US Mainlining their Bosses Oil-0pec).
PETA is another Self righteous Counterproductive Group. They are so caught up in crucifiying meat eaters, they spend no real time trying to solve the real issues of animal care and Welfare. throwing paint on someones Fur coat, or berating school children about hotdogs does not Help anything, it just builds outrage & resentment. thus causing real animal advocates to constantly rebuke and reject you. Thus getting in the way of Real progress on the issue of Humane care.
so Republicans we Have our own 'Crosses to bear'- the lunatic Fringe hangs off the left Too.both have proven to be uncompromising and Detached from reality- We will NOT all Be THEIR form of Christian, Nor will we all be Vegatarians.
We both must put some reins on these zealots gone Wild.They may have a voice and can provide suggestions but they Do Not Rule the Party.Otherwise they can go to onelof the Finge parties, or create their own, But The Names Democratic and Republican are not available. Tell your Holy Rolling Heretics they can start their own 'Rapture' party.Do not allow them to futher hide behind the term 'Christian' because they do not encompass the collective, nor any of it's real tennents.
Come on over for this election, starve them of attention and funding and they will see their numbers are scarce and weak.
If we Define them for what they truely are many true Faithfuls will turn away.It's just that they have been allowed to define what 'Chrisitan ' means since the '80's- and has given it a Bad name.Kinda of what extremeist like PETA has done to the term 'Liberal'- helped reinforce the stereotype and misconceptions spewed by Neo CONS as to what Real liberals actually stand for.
Personally I wanted Chuck Hagel as VP so to finally end the Bullshit division set up by the corps as a way to Divide & Conquer our independence.SOB's ahve been working both sides of the Street and stirring up the Low thinkers on both sides.

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For those wanting a third party
Posted by: EncinoM on Oct 28, 2008 7:02 AM   
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Watch as the republican party splits. You will have a party of Rockefeller Repubilcans, moderate on social issues and conservative on economic, and on the other side you will have the bible thumpers, moral issue all the time.

The danger for Democrates maybe the Lieberman and Reagan Democrates may be peeled off to this more moderate conservatism. On the flip side that would leave the libral/progressive memebers with the Democratic party. In teh end you may end up with a libral/Progressive party, a Moderate party and redneck party.

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» RE: For those wanting a third party Posted by: tommy_slothrop
The new Reagan?
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Oct 28, 2008 7:16 AM   
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No.. she is the new George W. Bush.

Half-baked, half-intelligent, half-savvy, and not even half-serious. Before the merde/midas touch of Karl Rove Bush was just like Palin, but with more name recognition thanks to daddy. I guess its a good thing he has fallen from grace.

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I fear Palin 2012 . . .
Posted by: Scientz on Oct 28, 2008 10:39 AM   
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I'm not being hyperbolic.

Study German history. The disaster of World War One was felt in the cities (which saw soldiers and sailors rioting) but totally escaped the countryside, where the majority of Germans thought they were winning the war.

The population turned to the Social Democrats, who were in turn blamed by the now marginalized far-right for the loss in the war.

The new center-left SPD government was wracked by a horrible economy, hyperinflation, and centrifugal competition in the Reichstag.

Slowly but surely the right was radicalized into the NSDAP.

The economy had better get better.

We'd better give Obama the room to enact his changes.

If he gets the blame for an ever-tanking economy, and the GOP pins it's future hopes on Palin, I genuinely fear for 2012.

People have been throwing "fascist" around like a pejorative, but I study fascism, and I don't see it. Yet.

If Obama's America becomes Weimar Germany, Palin in 2012 could become the scariest thing ever to happen in America.

May the press keep all the clips of her idiocy. May they play them every few months on every channel in the heartland. This woman must be turned into a joke. She cannot be allowed to become the future of the GOP.

I'll take Mitt Romney any day!

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If there is a Democratic landslide next Tuesday...
Posted by: Quannah on Oct 28, 2008 11:12 AM   
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leading to a President Obama, and large majorities in the House and Senate, you will see the Republics begin to eat their own. They will split, and that can only be good for America. They have botched their "leadership" and squandered whatever power they had from the Reagan/Gingrich revolution, which has led to this impending split. It SHOULD split. Many of the Republics I know personally are fed up with the hijacking of the Republic Party by the crazy neo-con power-mad and the Fundies.

But while this will prove to be very entertaining to some of us, what does it mean in practical terms as far as governing goes? This will be a very interesting few years ahead.

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