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Extreme ID Charges Against Immigrant to Be Heard in Supreme Court

Posted by Lynn Tramonte, AmericasVoiceOnline at 4:46 PM on October 27, 2008.


Does this sound like the best way to solve our immigration problems?

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Does this sound like the best way to solve our immigration problems?

Hunt down those who are using fake IDs to work; distort the charges by accusing them not of having fake documents but of "aggravated identity theft"; coerce each individual into pleading guilty to lesser offenses; toss them in jail; and, after they've served jail time on the taxpayer's dime, deport them?

To us, it sounds ineffective. Time-consuming. A wee bit costly. A tad extreme. 

Soon, though, we'll get to hear what the Supreme Court thinks.

The highest court in the land has decided to hear the case of Ignacio Carlos Flores-Figueroa, a Mexican citizen who found himself behind bars after he was convicted of "aggravated identity theft." According to Flores-Figueroa's lawyers, he made up a Social Security number so he could get a job at a steel plant in East Moline, Ill. He was sentenced to more than six years in prison. 

His lawyers argue that because he didn't know the Social Security number was already taken, it wasn't stealing, and that he had no intention of using the number for anything remotely resembling identity theft.

"When a person makes up a Social Security number, having no idea whether it belongs to someone else, it is hard to see how that conduct qualifies as theft' much less aggravated theft,'" the lawyers said in an Associated Press story

Meanwhile, the Bush administration said it doesn't matter. He used the fake ID. He's guilty of identity theft. Period.

Well, it figures that when your political party goads you into derailing your own immigration reform plan, you just throw the book at undocumented workers and hope it sticks. Having the punishment fit the crime is no longer a priority for Lady Justice. 

Unfortunately, this is not an isolated case. 

According to the Chicago Tribune, the legal tactic was first used in January 2007, when 53 meatpacking plant employees were arrested and charged with identity theft. This past May, more than 300 of the undocumented workers rounded up and prosecuted during the Postville, Iowa, meatpacking plant raid were criminally charged. 

"With this threat hanging over their heads, 302 immigrant workers were pressured into pleading guilty to lesser charges," according to the Inspired Faith, Effective Action blog, mostly document fraud. "These lesser charges may bar many of them from returning to the United States ever again, even if their family remains in the U.S." 

Unfortunately for Mr. Flores-Figueroa, the Supreme Court won't hear arguments until next year. In the meantime, this Administration will likely "stay the course" or, rather, increase its use of extreme identity theft charges against undocumented workers, no matter the cost.


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My Question Is.......
Posted by: desidid on Oct 28, 2008 5:42 AM   
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Do you believe that American citizens who create false IDs should be given the same lenient treatment you believe illegal immigrants deserve? Do you believe that American citizens should be able to go to the courts and sue employers who network hire? Do you believe we should have an immigration policy that has parity across the board? If you do AlterNet, you haven't posted one article that addresses that point of view. It would be nice to see some real policy discussions here rather than the party line, talking point articles that continue to appear here.

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Make a plan
Posted by: BST on Oct 28, 2008 6:49 AM   
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I could not possibly agree more with the first poster here. The extreme liberal view (I tend to count myself among moderates) is all too often to criticize without offering solutions.

What would you do about immigrants who are here illegally? What would you do to help salve the growing divisions in this country not by talk but by action?

My approach, were I in power, would be to:

# address the immigration issue with Mexico's president in a very transparent, highly visible, ongoing manner. Immigrants want to stay home. Why can't they? That is the question to address first. What are they fleeing. Most of us know, but their countries of origin should be held accountable.

# make clear the steps needed to become a citizen, the time frames that will be allowed and where one goes about doing this. I'll wager that most Americans haven't the foggiest notion of how difficult it is for someone who does not speak this language and is running from impoverishment to comprehend what steps are required. You try to decipher the INS rules. In fact, try to pass the citizenship test.

# I'd establish entry "booths" where those fleeing across the border could get simple instruction on what it takes to be here legally, document those workers with some tracking form, then provide a grace period with follow-up. Most of us have ancestors who came here from other places, often through Ellis Island. Set up some mini Ellis Islands.

Yup, this is a highly flawed plan. But it IS a plan. We need pragmatics, not bleeding-heart stories with no resolution, to take hold of this gigantic issue which is dividing us.

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» RE: Make a plan (but not this one) Posted by: Old Skeptic
MY PLAN
Posted by: COC on Oct 28, 2008 10:13 AM   
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Throw the employers in jail. Seriously, it ought to be a simple enough matter to require employers to verify a SSN. If they don't and hire an illegal, it should be the employer that pays the penalty.

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Let's use common sense
Posted by: Old Skeptic on Oct 28, 2008 12:04 PM   
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Illegal aliens know full well that they are here illegally; if this were not true, they wouldn't run and hide from "la migra" because they wouldn't realize that they were doing anything wrong! Using another person's SSN is a form of identity theft and it can screw up the rightful owner's income tax records and SS benefits when they try to retire! Identity theft is not a victimless crime! Those who buy stolen SSNs, or use another person's SSN knowingly, should go to jail. If that bars them from returning to the US, well, why would we want identity thieves to return? And their families should be sent home with them. The US taxpayer shouldn't have to support them.

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aurea walker
Posted by: Veritaetdignita on Oct 28, 2008 2:47 PM   
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America promotes N. Koreans to come to the U.S. and allowed to live for 5 years tax free! However, last I checked N. Korea is according to Bush an axis of evil - his words. Yet Mexico, Central and South America are our friends. Heck why our U.S. Corporactacy rapes, plunders pillages our Latinos neighbors to the point the poor and destitute must come to the good ole U.S. to work at jobs most citizens do not and will not do. They are not stealing identities the are trying to feed themselfs and their starving loved ones back. Also how about the slumlords who rent shit holes to the poor people at astronomical rates?

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» RE: aurea walker Posted by: Old Skeptic
Address the causes
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Oct 29, 2008 8:36 PM   
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Illegal immigrants come here because the corporations - Big Agribusiness - has destroyed the work back home. They can starve there, or take a chance on arrest and/or deportation, maybe even death, here, but at least it's a chance to live. NAFTA and the rest of the globalist, pro-corporate garbage that's been passed has to be undone to change the immigration situation. Hell, I'd do the same as they are if I had to in order to survive and to feed my family. Anyone would.

As for the subject of this article, there are certain services that simply should NEVER be privatized. Prisons perform one of those. Corporations exist to make a profit and to make that profit larger and larger. Corporations, the people who run them and those politicians who rely on their support have no consciences. To them it makes sense: the more prisoners you have, the more money you make, so criminalize everything you can, make sentences harsher, pass mandatory minimums. If your industry (and the prison industry trades on the NASDAQ) needs to grow, it makes perfect send that you need more prisoners, and you need to cut services to those you have to a bare minimum. And the corporate idea of "bare minimum" and the reality of what's actually needed for survival in that system are two different things.

Even when there is no profit involved, but evals for job performance of government employees, which of course means promotions, status and raises (so maybe that counts as profits?), in a prison system created and funded by the rich people with no notion of that end of reality who make the laws and regulations, the motivation is more for minimum service warehousing. At least then, though, there were regulatory agencies and other ways to have some of it addressed.

With corporations and neocon Republicans in charge, I'd expect a Hegellian evolution that ends up with feeding by the Kilkenney cats method. Such is their "humanity".

And please excuse the wandering - very short on sleep. If it's too much, my apologies.

Ian

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