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Palin Claims Vice President 'In Charge of the U.S. Senate'

Posted by Ryan Powers, Think Progress at 12:03 PM on October 21, 2008.


Governor, there's this great document called the Constitution that you should really take a look at.

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Yesterday, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) sat for an interview with KUSA, an NBC affiliate in Colorado. In response to a question sent to the network by a third grader at a local elementary school about what the Vice President does, Palin erroneously argued that the Vice President is "in charge of the United States Senate":

Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, "What does the Vice President do?"

PALIN: That's something that Piper would ask me! ... [T]hey're in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

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Indeed, while Palin suggests that questions about what the Vice President does is something only her daughter Piper would ask, Palin herself asked this very question on national television in July. Apparently, she still hasn't learned the correct answer.

Article I of the Constitution establishes an exceptionally limited role for the Vice President -- giving the office holder a vote only when the Senate is "equally divided":

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.

Moreover, the U.S. Senate website explains that the modern role of Vice Presidents has been to preside over the Senate "only on ceremonial occasions." ThinkProgress contacted Senior Assistant Paliamentarian Peter Robinson, who also disputed Palin's characterization of the Vice President's role:

In modern practice the Vice President doesn't really control the Senate. ... If anyone has a responsibility to try to govern the Senate, it's the responsibility of the two leaders.

Update ThinkProgress obtained the following statement from Jim Manley, spokesman to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV):

This comment is all the more puzzling because this is at least the 2nd time she has said this. Gov Palin needs to re-read or perhaps read for the first time the Constitution. While the Vice President presides over the Senate, he or she is not in charge of it. Article 1 says The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate is part of a co-equal branch of the federal government.

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Ryan Powers is a former intern of the Center for American Progress and a senior at the College of William and Mary.


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Unfuckingbelievable!!!
Posted by: Quannah on Oct 21, 2008 12:12 PM   
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This woman doesn't even know what the duties of the Vice President are! She doesn't have a clue!

The ONLY thing she could do in the Senate -- ACCORDING TO THE CONTSTITUTION! -- is to cast the deciding vote if THERE IS A TIE!

Hey Sarah! Maybe you need to read the Constitution that your husband and his buddies in the AIP have no respect for!

She is TOO IGNORANT to be in this position!!! Oy Vey!!!

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» RE: Unfuckingbelievable!!! Posted by: Zeugitai
Well...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Oct 21, 2008 12:55 PM   
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You can be sure if she gets into office she will do just that... legal or not.

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So sad, so scary, she's enough
Posted by: weathered on Oct 21, 2008 1:08 PM   
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to frighten Stephen King.

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Taking After The Master
Posted by: QQOblivion on Oct 21, 2008 3:21 PM   
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She must have been watching Dick Cheney these last few years. He's in charge of the Senate, the House, the judicial branch, the presidency, and in charge of all us sorry losers' asses!...

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Quick
Posted by: Jeanne on Oct 21, 2008 5:22 PM   
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someone mail her a copy of the Constitution and a bullet-point job description. Better yet, let's make sure she doesn't have the opportunity to "run" the Senate. Honestly, she is too ignorant and mentally challenged to be VP, much less President. She's so stupid, she doesn't recognize she's in water over her head and she's sinking. She makes me embarrassed for women everywhere -- truly, we're not all as dumb as her.

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Neocon delusions of grandeur
Posted by: kww355 on Oct 22, 2008 7:34 AM   
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How can she read the Constitution when the Decider-In-Chief and Darth Cheney shredded it long ago?!

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Palin is a real hockey puck!!!
Posted by: xvictor on Oct 22, 2008 7:58 AM   
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(with apologies to Don Rickles!!)

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» RE: Palin is a real hockey puck!!! Posted by: pjnaltykins
» RE: Palin is a real hockey puck!!! Posted by: pjnaltykins
» RE: Palin is a real hockey puck!!! Posted by: pjnaltykins
» RE: Palin is a real hockey puck!!! Posted by: pjnaltykins
Waynep
Posted by: waynep on Oct 22, 2008 8:48 AM   
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Let's see. . . she screwed up in interviews with those "hard hitters" Charlie and Katie, so she does her next interview with 3rd graders! AND...apparently they were to hard for her as well. Maybe, just a thought Sara, a good pre-school would be the right environment. Most question there have something to do with the location of the bathroom and if you can help with the tying up of a shoelace. You can tie a shoe lace, can't you? Perhaps the McCain team should vet out this fact before sending her into another environment that is obviously over her head and just out to confuse her.

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Remember Ford's Poland
Posted by: Nicnic on Oct 22, 2008 9:04 AM   
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The really sad part about all of this is that it indicates just how hopelessly ignorant and ambivalent the general public (Republicans, Democrats, and all others) have become.

Remember when Ford stumbled in a debate with Carter and said that Poland wasn't part of the Soviet block? The press and everyone absolutely shredded Ford and he was a dead duck in the election almost entirely because of that one bit of information that Ford had wrong.

Contrast that today with such events as 9/11, the financial crisis and the absolute incompetency, greed and arrogance that's systemically entrenched in all sectors of government, media, religion, corporatism, medicine and you name it.

No one will challenge anyone or hold them to task. People are afraid to fart yet alone think. They're too busy mushing their brain with the deculturalizing effects of persistent obtrusive low-brow media exposure and the erosion of an intrinsic value system. Plug them in with a reward and like a dog they'll do any trick you want except rock the boat. There isn't a shred of truth to be found anywhere and now you have a flock of sheep that have lost the ability to reason and are just too fat and lazy on all other accounts to perform up to the American standard we once knew.

My friends, we're seeing the hangover of a Roman orgy, the dimensions of which can not be comprehended or audited. It can only be swept into a pile and burned.

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» RE: emember Ford's Poland Posted by: blackie4aces
Awesome!
Posted by: mountainmama on Oct 22, 2008 9:25 AM   
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These comments are even better then the article!! Seriously!

My husband adds: "All that Artic cold in Alaska has frozen her brain."

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» RE: Awesome! Posted by: katee
tornadorider2002
Posted by: tornadorider2002 on Oct 22, 2008 9:38 AM   
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Oh Lordy! This woman is Dumb with a capital "DUH".

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pdz words
Posted by: pd'z words on Oct 22, 2008 10:53 AM   
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I certainly hope that everybody realizes she is the most craziest, cartoon-like, character ever choosen to be our VP! If this isn't the last nail in the coffin for McCain, God help us all! If there are people out there that are undecided, THIS should help you make the most important vote this country has ever had. This election could be the down fall of American if we put someone like Palin in office! Please see that she is just absolutely not Vip material. She can't tell her ass from a hole in the ground!

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Can't believe these comments
Posted by: COC on Oct 22, 2008 11:31 AM   
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I'm not a Palin fan and believe she is not qualified to be VP. But not because of her comment here. The criticism of her understanding of the Constitution is unwarranted and brought by those without an understanding themselves.

If she had said the VP is President of the Senate there wouldn't be a complaint, because that is a direct quote from the Constitution.

Black's Law Dictionary states the president of a legislative body is the presiding officer "appointed to keep order, manage the proceedings, and govern the administrative details of their business." If that is what Sarah meant by being "in charge" she is absolutely correct.

Further, the next clause in the Constitution is, "The Senate shall choose their other officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the office of President of the United States." "Pro tempore" means temporary and implies that the VP would not be frequently absent, but only absent for an extraordinary reason, as the last phrase reinforces, "or when he shall exercise the office of President ...."

As the article makes clear, it has become the practice that the VP in presiding over the Senate has become a ceremonial position. It has become a practice not for a Constitutional limitation, but because past VP's have allowed that to happen.

Practically, without a vote or a state constituency to answer to, the role of a VP to routinely preside over the Senate would be reduced to moderating the proceedings. She would have as much influence over the other Senators, even those of her own party, from her VP office, as from the Senate Dais.

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» Oh, Please Posted by: TruthBeTold
McCain/Palin Campaign
Posted by: blackie4aces on Oct 22, 2008 11:58 AM   
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An important thing to realize in connection with the McCain campaign is that it unerringly plays to the Republican base. Palin is a crude, ignorant idealogue, but so is the Republican base. They are not any smarter than she is. McCain channels the business/corporate base, a group somewhat brighter than Palin's constituency, which cares not a wit for any of the small town, real America b.s. that Palin puts out, but rather how a Republican president can affect their profits and freedom to operate. This generally means how much they will be allowed to steal and how much hassle will be involved while they are doing it. Like McCain, who cynically appointed the reactionary Palin to secure and entice a particular block of votes, this Republican constituency doesn't care about what is good for America or anyone in it; it cares only about itself, which it believes is the operative principle of the nation.

The problem with this is the base alone cannot elect John McCain and his sidekick. Any campaign all but exclusively directed to the Republican "base," an unholy gumbo of ignorance, superstition, elitism, and self-serving corporatism will necessarily alienate much of the independent middle and cannot succeed. George Bush got away with this strategy only because he was not actually elected (he lost in 2000) and because he did succeed in instilling enough fear in the independent segment of the voting public in 2004. That won't happen this time around because centrist voters have already been hoodwinked twice on this as an issue. Bush's vow to protect Americans has resulted in more Americans being killed than the 9/11 attack, which also occurred on Bush's watch, $2 trillion dollars being utterly wasted (the war and the financial collapse), and terrorist organizations growing in strength.

The McCain/Palin campaign strategy, like the Bush presidency, will be very shortly just another mindless and total failure.

Satan's Neutral Corner
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Hockey Mom
Posted by: frank69 on Oct 22, 2008 3:48 PM   
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Maybe she got hit in the head by a hockey puck in one of those Hockey Mom games. Palin is obviously too dumb to have been wearing a helmet! RUNNING THE SENATE indeed! What a complete and utter ass. And John McCain is also a complete and utter ass for choosing such a nonentity!
These RightWingNuts really do have a "death wish."

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» RE: Hockey Mom Posted by: marjani
McCain proves he is an idiot
Posted by: mindtrvlr on Oct 22, 2008 10:17 PM   
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He my as well have picked some drunk homeless peron out of the first alley he past by. He or she would at least be able to ansewer such a simple question. In fact that person would probably know more about running the country than McCain.

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Palin's tender answer to a third-grader
Posted by: willymack on Oct 23, 2008 12:35 AM   
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Here's the best I can do with that trick question (you little turd). Good question! Too bad I don't have the slightest idea what the job I'm running for entails, you betcha. That doesn't matter that much, though. After I'm crowned Queen of the Prom, or whatever, I'm gonna go right over to the Senate, and maybe the House too and help them cook up some really neat legislation,like a new constitution making my job permanent,and stuff like that there. Golly, I'm so excited. Did you notice my cutsie smile and wink,kid?

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called the Constitution that you should really take a look at...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Oct 23, 2008 5:24 AM   
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... sure wished the courts would look at it as well!

how far we've fallen from what the dream was then and what it is today!

I put all the blame on the courts and its political appointees!

JDFU

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Look at the most recent example...
Posted by: VickyinSD on Oct 23, 2008 4:19 PM   
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of who's ACTUALLY been running things in the oval office for the last 8 years, and it might explain her total ignorance on the duties of the VP.

Who knows what kind of insane bullshit they've planted in her head since she became a VP candidate! The way I see it, she looks like she's dumb enough to believe whatever they tell her. And with McCain verging on Alzheimers, you never know what might happen if they get elected. (God forbid)

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The Miseducation of Palin's Kids
Posted by: marjani on Oct 24, 2008 7:29 PM   
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Hey, she said she didn't know what a Vice President does from the very beginning. You mean you didn't believe her?

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