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The Rich Are Staging a Coup Right Now

Posted by Michael Moore, MichaelMoore.com at 8:36 AM on September 29, 2008.


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Update: House votes no on Paulson's bailout

Friends,





Let me cut to the chase. The biggest robbery in the history of this country is taking place as you read this. Though no guns are being used, 300 million hostages are being taken. Make no mistake about it: After stealing a half trillion dollars to line the pockets of their war-profiteering backers for the past five years, after lining the pockets of their fellow oilmen to the tune of over a hundred billion dollars in just the last two years, Bush and his cronies -- who must soon vacate the White House -- are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door.




No matter what they say, no matter how many scare words they use, they are up to their old tricks of creating fear and confusion in order to make and keep themselves and the upper one percent filthy rich. Just read the first four paragraphs of the lead story in last Monday's New York Times and you can see what the real deal is:

"Even as policy makers worked on details of a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry, Wall Street began looking for ways to profit from it.
"Financial firms were lobbying to have all manner of troubled investments covered, not just those related to mortgages.
"At the same time, investment firms were jockeying to oversee all the assets that Treasury plans to take off the books of financial institutions, a role that could earn them hundreds of millions of dollars a year in fees.
"Nobody wants to be left out of Treasury's proposal to buy up bad assets of financial institutions."

Unbelievable. Wall Street and its backers created this mess and now they are going to clean up like bandits. Even Rudy Giuliani is lobbying for his firm to be hired (and paid) to "consult" in the bailout.




The problem is, nobody truly knows what this "collapse" is all about. Even Treasury Secretary Paulson admitted he doesn't know the exact amount that is needed (he just picked the $700 billion number out of his head!). The head of the congressional budget office said he can't figure it out nor can he explain it to anyone.




And yet, they are screeching about how the end is near! Panic! Recession! The Great Depression! Y2K! Bird flu! Killer bees! We must pass the bailout bill today!! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!




Falling for whom? NOTHING in this "bailout" package will lower the price of the gas you have to put in your car to get to work. NOTHING in this bill will protect you from losing your home. NOTHING in this bill will give you health insurance.





Health insurance? Mike, why are you bringing this up? What's this got to do with the Wall Street collapse?




It has everything to do with it. This so-called "collapse" was triggered by the massive defaulting and foreclosures going on with people's home mortgages. Do you know why so many Americans are losing their homes? To hear the Republicans describe it, it's because too many working class idiots were given mortgages that they really couldn't afford. Here's the truth: The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is because of medical bills. Let me state this simply: If we had had universal health coverage, this mortgage "crisis" may never have happened.




This bailout's mission is to protect the obscene amount of wealth that has been accumulated in the last eight years. It's to protect the top shareholders who own and control corporate America. It's to make sure their yachts and mansions and "way of life" go uninterrupted while the rest of America suffers and struggles to pay the bills. Let the rich suffer for once. Let them pay for the bailout. We are spending 400 million dollars a day on the war in Iraq. Let them end the war immediately and save us all another half-trillion dollars!




I have to stop writing this and you have to stop reading it. They are staging a financial coup this morning in our country. They are hoping Congress will act fast before they stop to think, before we have a chance to stop them ourselves. So stop reading this and do something -- NOW! Here's what you can do immediately:




1. Call or e-mail Senator Obama. Tell him he does not need to be sitting there trying to help prop up Bush and Cheney and the mess they've made. Tell him we know he has the smarts to slow this thing down and figure out what's the best route to take. Tell him the rich have to pay for whatever help is offered. Use the leverage we have now to insist on a moratorium on home foreclosures, to insist on a move to universal health coverage, and tell him that we the people need to be in charge of the economic decisions that affect our lives, not the barons of Wall Street.





2. Take to the streets. Participate in one of the hundreds of quickly-called demonstrations that are taking place all over the country (especially those near Wall Street and DC).




3. Call your Representative in Congress and your Senators. (click here to find their phone numbers). Tell them what you told Senator Obama.




When you screw up in life, there is hell to pay. Each and every one of you reading this knows that basic lesson and has paid the consequences of your actions at some point. In this great democracy, we cannot let there be one set of rules for the vast majority of hard-working citizens, and another set of rules for the elite, who, when they screw up, are handed one more gift on a silver platter. No more! Not again!




Yours,


Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

P.S. Having read further the details of this bailout bill, you need to know you are being lied to. They talk about how they will prevent golden parachutes. It says NOTHING about what these executives and fat cats will make in SALARY. According to Rep. Brad Sherman of California, these top managers will continue to receive million-dollar-a-month paychecks under this new bill. There is no direct ownership given to the American people for the money being handed over. Foreign banks and investors will be allowed to receive billion-dollar handouts. A large chunk of this $700 billion is going to be given directly to Chinese and Middle Eastern banks. There is NO guarantee of ever seeing that money again.




P.P.S. From talking to people I know in DC, they say the reason so many Dems are behind this is because Wall Street this weekend put a gun to their heads and said either turn over the $700 billion or the first thing we'll start blowing up are the pension funds and 401(k)s of your middle class constituents. The Dems are scared they may make good on their threat. But this is not the time to back down or act like the typical Democrat we have witnessed for the last eight years. The Dems handed a stolen election over to Bush. The Dems gave Bush the votes he needed to invade a sovereign country. Once they took over Congress in 2007, they refused to pull the plug on the war. And now they have been cowered into being accomplices in the crime of the century. You have to call them now and say "NO!" If we let them do this, just imagine how hard it will be to get anything good done when President Obama is in the White House. THESE DEMOCRATS ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS THE BACKBONE WE GIVE THEM. CALL CONGRESS NOW.

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You're right about the bailout, so why are you including lies?
Posted by: rickiey on Sep 29, 2008 8:51 AM   
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The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is because of medical bills.

No it isn't.

The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is divorce.

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The name of the game is survival, at best
Posted by: kathiparker on Sep 29, 2008 9:01 AM   
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The baby boomers are tired of the lies from our government but we're almost too tired to continue fighting against a system where the game is rigged. The younger people believe. Or at least they want to believe. What else can you do when fighting doesn't help.

I used to be against guns in peoples homes. Then Bush took over the presidency and I realized that without guns the president could continue to take over the country using the military and we wouldn't even have access to a revolution.

It's all over now. We'll all just plod along, hoping when we're young that we will be one of the rich, and then, too late, we will realize that all we can do is survive.

call me TiredCamper

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The name of the game is survival, at best
Posted by: kathiparker on Sep 29, 2008 9:01 AM   
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The baby boomers are tired of the lies from our government but we're almost too tired to continue fighting against a system where the game is rigged. The younger people believe. Or at least they want to believe. What else can you do when fighting doesn't help.

I used to be against guns in peoples homes. Then Bush took over the presidency and I realized that without guns the president could continue to take over the country using the military and we wouldn't even have access to a revolution.

It's all over now. We'll all just plod along, hoping when we're young that we will be one of the rich, and then, too late, we will realize that all we can do is survive.

call me TiredCamper

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» My Bad Posted by: kathiparker
» Yours either Posted by: kegbot1
» A what?! You need a new dictionary! Posted by: photon's feather
Democrats are the Biggest Pushers of the Bailout
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Sep 29, 2008 9:13 AM   
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Where does that leave fellow Alterneters come Novemeber?


Stop voting Democrat or Republican, you are just throwing your vote away.

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The link to 'Call Congress' at bottom goes to a "not found" page..
Posted by: adelaney on Sep 29, 2008 9:24 AM   
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We love you Michael Moore! Thanks!

However, the links for the text at bottom of the article reading: "You have to call them now and say "NO!" ...CALL CONGRESS NOW." go to a page that reads "Not found" at the URL: http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

Please fix this! thx.

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Anyone who votes Republican or Democrat at this point is a FUCKING LOSER LOSER LOSER !!!!
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 29, 2008 10:00 AM   
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And I don't want to sound like a mad man again but if Obama or Mccain gets the White House,

GOD WILL CONTINUE TO SEVERELY PUNISH THE USA TO ETERNAL DAMNATION THE LIKES OF WHICH AMERICA HAS NEVER EVER FUCKING SEEN !!!!

Even Bob Barr has a fucking clue at this point !

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I love this quote:
Posted by: oregoncharles on Sep 29, 2008 10:15 AM   
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"the typical Democrat we have witnessed for the last eight years. The Dems handed a stolen election over to Bush. The Dems gave Bush the votes he needed to invade a sovereign country. Once they took over Congress in 2007, they refused to pull the plug on the war. And now they have been cowered"...

As someone noted just above, the Dems in Congress are the chief ones pushing the Bailout. They are "demanding" that at least a few Repubs vote for it, to give them cover. The Repubs, on the other hand, are showing signs of actual integrity, refusing to back a bill that violates all their supposed principles. Of course, their alternative is even worse, but we expected that.

MM actually admits that this bizarre picture is "typical." Then he offers the standard excuse: they're "cowering". Somehow, they're "afraid" of the big bad Republicans, or the big bad Wall Street tycoons on their doorstep with a REALLY BIG begging bowl. What are they going to do, whack the poor Congresscritters upside the head with their begging bowl? Granted, it's REALLY BIG.

Let's face reality here: they aren't afraid of anything, including, especially, their own constituents. They're just sold out. Isn't Wall Street the biggest bloc among Obama's "individual" contributors? And Biden's? And how many Congress members? Where's Pelosi getting her money?

We can take Pelosi down by helping Cindy Sheehan. And we can quit cowering ourselves by voting for candidates who really represent us.

Here are the first 7 points of Cynthia McKinney's 14 on this issue:

1. Enactment of a foreclosure moratorium now before the next phase of ARM interest rate increases take effect;

2. elimination of all ARM mortgages and their renegotiation into 30- or 40-year loans;

3. establishment of new mortgage lending practices to end predatory and discriminatory practices;

4. establishment of criteria and construction goals for affordable housing;

5. redefinition of credit and regulation of the credit industry so that discriminatory practices are completely eliminated;

6. full funding for initiatives that eliminate racial and ethnic disparities in home ownership;

7. recognition of shelter as a right according to the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights to which the U.S. is a signatory so that no one sleeps on U.S. streets;

And the 14th:

"14. criminal prosecution of any activities that violated the law, including conflicts of interest that led to the current crisis."

You can look up the whole thing at http//votetruth08.com. Isn't that the attitude you want running things when the financiers drop the economy in the toilet?

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Deregulation has undone the lessons of the Great Depression
Posted by: fanny666 on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM   
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Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933: “There Must Be A Strict Supervision Of All Banking and Credits and Investments. There Must Be An End To Speculation With Other People’s Money.”

The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999, was a direct rebuke of FDR. This bill was sponsored in the Senate by McCain's economic advisor Phil Gramm (R-TX) and in the House by James Leach (R-Iowa). 44 Democrats voted against it, but it was signed by Bill Clinton.

This is the bill that directly undid the most important regulatory bill that FDR signed, the The Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, which brought "an end to speculation with other people's money."

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the bail out is a poison pill
Posted by: Levon on Sep 29, 2008 10:26 AM   
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that if the dems sign onto the will become as unpopular as the gop. mark my words, this bailout is designed to make the rich richer and to tar the dems as bad as managers as the repubs.everything this administration does is about politics.

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Be Careful What You Wish For
Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 29, 2008 11:32 AM   
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Let the markets crash- let it burn.

The acolytes of Milton Friedman and 'Chicago School Economics' have always touted the 'free market' and we have gone this far, so let's let it crash to discredit it for all time. Then we can start perp walking Republicans, DLC Democrats and Wall Street Con Artists and strip them of their ill gotten gains.

Part of free market economics is price discovery and that is what Wall Street fears. The free fall of overvalued assets and worthless paper 'securities' will show that the emperor has no clothes. Letting the corrupted market crash is nothing short of an intervention.

You are watching the Shock Doctrine Naomi Klein has described in action. You are also watching the DLC (Repugnican-Lite) 'Democrats' answer to the call of Wall Street- their true masters. It's time the entire House Democratic 'leadership' resigned- they have shown their hand by siding with Wall Street despite constituent calls running 100-1 against.

Whatever happened to REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY?

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PETITION
Posted by: fomented on Sep 29, 2008 12:18 PM   
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Click here to send your letter now.

If you have sent one before, send again.

http://www.votenobailout.org/

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Bailout?...What Bailout?
Posted by: foius on Sep 29, 2008 2:10 PM   
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Thank God there are enough sensible congressmen/women to see that this bailout bill was anethema to the creed of capitalism, fairness, and common-sense. Unfortunately, the major players on Wall Street will not rest until market values reach ground zero. There can only be equilibrium in market value when the liquidity crisis can be backed by a stable currency minus the speculators in the money markets. That will be a long way from happening in any near or distant future. There is just too much to lose. Most of it belongs to the working Americans who saw fit to invest their savings in 401(k) plans. What happens to the asset values of their investments 401(k) now? Shore up the market by getting rid of the speculators and capitalizing the average Americans. Redistribute the taxpayers dollars to the taxpayers...period. This is NOT rocket science!!! Do you want rich people to decide what you get monetarily (next to nothing from them)? Why the big bailout for Wall Street? Who is managing the financial markets? Can the Federal Government be a major player(equity positions)in these markets? Will our elected officials in Congress squander another opportunity to bring fundamental reform, oversight, and congressional debate and review...then propose bi-partisan legislation to correct the deficiencies that exist from a de-regulated financial industry?

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OR, Tell your Reps to go find $700 Billion elsewhere
Posted by: Rolomax on Sep 29, 2008 3:14 PM   
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They can start Here:

$2.3 Trillion Missing

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My third eye tells me,that it will get rejected..
Posted by: BlueGorilla on Sep 29, 2008 3:40 PM   
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The mists are parting,the Amulet of Arse-Biscuit brings news from the near future . Allied with the Turquoise Rays of Tossa,they foretell that the bail out ,will not be passed...that is all I can see,as all becomes mist once more...

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Another reason to vote third party
Posted by: holypigeon on Sep 29, 2008 4:20 PM   
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Obviously Michael Moore's plea was posted before the decision the decision to reject the bailout was announced. I do think that we should take a look at who prevented this bailout from passing: the republicans! Had the democrats gotten their way, we would now be stuck with this ridiculous plan. Believe me, I'm no defender of the republicans, but why are democrats not held accountable for their own contributions to this stupidity? Even Moore is ready to make excuses for their stupidity/weakness/ignorance by blaming it on the usual pressures that cause them to yield irrationally every time. Its time to stop waiting for the dems to grow balls. We've given them enough time already. It's time to vote third party this election, and to convince as many people as possible to do the same!

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Well?
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Sep 29, 2008 5:04 PM   
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Congress, the White House and the Fed already HAD oversight responsibility for the US economy.

Maybe giving them more money and power isn't the answer.

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Speaking of Health Insurance...
Posted by: Gaubladt on Sep 29, 2008 6:44 PM   
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Dear Michael,
I am paying more than $6,000/year for health insurance. I know that every dime I spend is being used to perpetuate an organization that is trying to keep our country from creating a single payer health plan. One of my providers actually sports a picture of their CEO shaking hands with President Bush. That picture cost them a $200,000 payment to the Republican Party outright and another healthy chunk of dough to Jack Abramov as well. My health insurance providers are cannibals.
I would like to know if there is a health plan that lobbies for a single payer American Health Plan. If not, is there a business model that could succeed in creating one? Perhaps the initial investors could be bought out by the plan after it becomes self sustaining, or just before "America goes single". Call me crazy. But, I would be willing to invest in something like that.
While pondering the filicide of the EV1, it amazes me how many business decisions are politically motivated. So, why not make the choice of health care a political decision as well as a business decision?

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CommonDreamer
Posted by: CommonDreamer on Sep 29, 2008 7:26 PM   
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Most of what Michael Moore says is true - except it is not only healthcare bills that have bankrupted consumers. It is also the depression of wages, the regressive tax system (which in turn enabled the wealthy to drive up the prices of everything because they were given this insane and unjustifiable gift of more money than anyone knows what to do with...)....and also consumer inflammation....usury credit interest...the list goes on.

It was a confluence of engineered events - a massive gutting of the citizenry from every angle. And now they want us to pay for it. With what?

Here's a suggestion. Have all the masters of the universe - supposedly so much more brilliant than you and I...and worth every stolen penny so they would have you believe - sell their ridiculous $40 million mansions bought on the backs of workers (and sell to Russians, China or any other U.S. debt holders)....sell their art, boats, planes, buildings - and then return that money to the economy and to workers where it belongs.

Yes the bill is stupid too. Jim Webb has it right - anyone accepting federal dollars deserves federal pay. Let them eat cake. It's time for another revolution.

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Economic Meltdown Directly Linked to HealthCare
Posted by: drricklippin on Sep 29, 2008 8:33 PM   
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Michael Moore-

We have seen the health care reform issue in polls overshadowed by the nation's economic crises. But you are absolutely correct when you stated this morning that the two are inextricably linked.

It is impossible to separate the housing forclosure crisis which precipitated this financial meltdown from the unaffordable costs of many medical bills.

Also the loss of US jobs and the pervasive fear of job loss has a profound and underestimated impact on the health of our citizens.

Part of my own health care plan -and I am a physician- is safe and healthy -dare I say meaningful- lifelong jobs for all able Americans.

But a jobs program as part of a health care reform package remains a distant dream

Be Well,

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa
ralippin@aol.com

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Alternative to Bailout
Posted by: Gaubladt on Sep 29, 2008 8:49 PM   
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The "bailout" is a crude defining description of a much more complex ecomomic mechanism. It is used to purchase mortgages.
The alternave would be to tax empty houses and when the tax authority acquires enough equity in the form of unpaid debt, it forecloses on the already-foreclosed property and gives, or leases to own, the property back to the previous occupants.

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And Obama and the Democrats are ready to rubber stamp approval.
Posted by: lindat on Sep 29, 2008 8:54 PM   
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At least the Repugs had the spine to kill this Wall Street bailout. Obama and the Dems were all set to cave in and sell us out. Again.

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The scam behind the scam
Posted by: Luckydog on Sep 29, 2008 10:10 PM   
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A coup or a robbery? In my 62 years I have never heard government officials use language so hysterical, so irresponsible as to seem to be deliberately trying to shake the confidence of the financial markets and the American people.

What if the real scam is to drive the stock market so low that insiders, funds and players are able to buy assets at fire sale prices?

As a bonus what if the Treasury Secretary of the United States with the help of Congress provided some of them; the ones with the right political connections, with 700 billion dollars to do it all in the name of rescuing the economy? Without oversight. Without judicial review. The Treasury Secretary to have full authority to parcel out the funds as he sees fit. That was the original request from the White House.

Think about it.

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Coup Facts
Posted by: TruthGiver on Sep 29, 2008 10:13 PM   
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To fully understand what is happening here, a few details are in order here.

First, one must read the article written by Elliot Spitzer JUST before he was taken down by the powers that be. This article details how the Bush administration opened the doors for the mortgage industry to get into this crisis, knowing all along they could pilfer the taxpayers in the end to soak up any losses.

Eliot Spitzer Feb 2008 article

Second, we must realize that this whole affair is simply a corporate restructuring. What corporation? The corporation that OWNS the Federal Reserve (it is NOT a US government agency or division). The Federal Reserve is owned by the wealthiest banks in the world, who also in turn own the largest insurance companies in the world, and so much more. Like in 1929, they are set to, and will execute, the US economy if they don't get their way. Haven't you heard the threats already? Think it's not true? What caused the great depression? A run on banks and the stock markets? But what caused that? What happened was the largest banks in the world called in all loans they could on Oct 29, 1929. As all callable loans had to be paid immediately, everyone and their brother had to sell stock, bonds and get their money from the banks to pay these loans, that were all being called in unreasonably on this day. And what did the Fed do? Nothing. It is/was the same people. These are the same people who brought us federal income tax, in the same act that formed the third incarnation of the Fed!

Why would the Fed do this? Because for the third time in US history, a president (this time Herbert Hoover) was threatening to end the Federal Reserve. Andrew Jackson once said, when asked what was his greatest accomplishment in his two terms as President, "I killed the Bank." (referring to the second incarnation of the Federal Reserve). Under the US Constitution, only the treasury is allowed to print our money, and although they still print our coins, the Fed is who really controls the US currency, and remember, they are a PRIVATE corporation, whom you will be told no specifics about.

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.”

Sir Josiah Stamp - Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928)
Reputed to be the 2nd wealthiest man in England at that time.

So once you have looked at these facts, especially the article by and the efforts of Mr. Spitzer, you can see what this is really all about.

Hope this helps some to understand.

In Truth, Justice and the American Way
The Freedom Truth Giver

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» My brain farted...so sorry.... Posted by: bthespoon
Cracks In The Constitution
Posted by: shill on Sep 30, 2008 4:21 AM   
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The above is a book I am now reading. It was written in 1980, and so far, seems to be even more relevant today. In it the author, whose name escapes me right now, states that the U.S. Constitution, instead of being the almost sacred document we have been told it is in history classes all through school, was actually designed by men with the express purpose of maintaining the wealth and power within the circle of the landowning rich, which included themselves. It is also asserted in the book that the Constitution, instead of being the "law of the land" has often been broken by presidents, the Supreme Court, etc. in the more than 200 years we have been a republic, and that, unlike the British and French governments, is designed to KEEP the politicians in office instead of letting us replace them easily with one fell swoop. What we are seeing in this administration with its wars that didn't have to be fought, and now its bailout program for Wall Street verifies the claims being made in this book. And, sadly, there is little we, the average American, can do about it, regardless of WHICH party gets in, because the Constitution is what the people in power SAY it is!

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Socialism for the Rich
Posted by: billslm on Sep 30, 2008 4:23 AM   
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So these are the "principles" of the Neo-cons! But, you may say, Hey! they've never done anything but steal and lie. That is old already.

What is new is that when push comes to shove, they violate their own principles and beg the taxpayers to "Give me your money. Save me! Please." They want pure Socialism!

They say, "You don't want these nice people to lose their 401k's, do you?"

Well no, I don't want anybody on Main Street to lose their savings but if you Wallstreet types did it and the little guy suffers, that is called a crime; the crimes of thievery, extortion, racketeering and running a con.

Somebody will have to go to jail. And I don't mean House Arrest for 3 months. I mean the Slammer! Not the country club, the Slammer! Where they love to watch Wall Street types on their knees saying, "Thank you, Sir, may I have another?"

Jail for every CEO who ran his company into the dirt and walked away Twenty to Fifty Million dollars richer.

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» RE: Socialism for the Rich Posted by: bthespoon
Both 9/11 and this Financial Crisis Were Engineered by the Same People
Posted by: Nicnic on Sep 30, 2008 4:43 AM   
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Now they are revealing themselves. The financial crisis is a carefully planned and orchestrated attack that has been years in the making. The odds of such an event taking place around the world in unison and in like fashion with like remedy are astronomical. Our corporations and governments have been systematically raided and laid to waste in a global master plan to bankrupt the system into worthless paper while being stripped of it's hard assets and jobs. Now you're seeing the real engineering behind illegal immigration and the export of jobs.

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The health coverage crises could solve our financial crises
Posted by: bthespoon on Sep 30, 2008 5:10 AM   
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...if only we were smart enough to realize it.

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Me smells Rove at work
Posted by: warrior woman on Sep 30, 2008 5:20 AM   
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Ok, it's October tomorrow. Bush is shunned by most Republicans now at the end of his presidency. He and his Sec. of the Treasury, Paulson propose a bailout plan with no oversight and unending refill options for 2 years. This is a perfect plan in that now almost ALL Republican's can show (right before the election) how they shun such measures, call for additional financial constraints and conservatism and are distancing themselves from the Bush administration. Democrats will be left holding a bag of stinking fish while most of us have suffered the most grievous crime in history. One that has been planned for years: witness the lack of regulation, assurances that the free market society will police themselves and the blatant handouts to this crew year after year after year.

We are completely being f'd.

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» RE: Me smells Rove at work Posted by: sallyride
EVERYONE'S GOING NUTS
Posted by: sallyride on Sep 30, 2008 6:13 AM   
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Kudos to Moore but his links don't work, and his email address has crashed unless he's been "hacked"~!

With all the openness of communications on the Internet, if we email a one of the "candidates" through their websites, all we get back is pleas for $$$-- HA! Americans just can't trust anyone no more. ;-))

I'm tired of this yanking and pulling on our intellect strings, and invading our emotions. We did nothing to deserve this nightmare in "DC". In fact, Congress did it refusing to IMPEACH BUSH. I don't know about any one else but I'm sick and tired of this coming at us from all sides.

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» Eggs Posted by: bthespoon
NRA MUST REIGN IN NOVEMBER
Posted by: sallyride on Sep 30, 2008 6:27 AM   
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Never Re-Elect Anyone Let's face it - newbies can't do any more damage than Congress had done that past 5 decades (and the presidents) in their drive to become imperialistic war-lords.

Term limits, no-cost campaigns, no one can run for office who has not worked a 40-hour week for at least 5 years, and no religions/faiths mentioned. We have had enough.

Best option? Office-By-Raffle: Every citizen's name in the "pot", drawn at random every 2 years to serve our nation 2 years in Congress, then back home to be normal people!

No one can be any worse than those we have been stuck with. Elected? I really doubt any election has been honest, and legal, looking back on the realities of our elections.

Any citizen would question, once serving their "Two Years for America", every shred of information, every bill before voting. Slow down? Perhaps. Who said we have to act fast on everything, in fact, most of the house and senate are only "acting" now.

We must have REFORM, not "Change."

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» Except for Kucinich and Conyers Posted by: bthespoon
treason
Posted by: cyr3n on Sep 30, 2008 7:18 AM   
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1. Imprison the CEOs, bankers, and government enablers for high treason
2. confiscate their wealth
3. profit!

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can you say october surprise?
Posted by: bwo on Sep 30, 2008 8:06 AM   
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how creative! and we all thought it would be an attack on iran...

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John "Keating Five" Mc Cain
Posted by: FURonnie on Sep 30, 2008 10:46 AM   
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Why are we even considering this phoney, war mongering crook John Boy who deregulated the S&L in the 1980's. He hosed the taxpayer's to the tune of Billions and Billions and he's hosing us again. Wake up folks this is a Neo-Con job. Remember "A Blow Job cost us the White House but the Neo-Con job cost us Trillions"!!!!!!!

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PAULSON’S BAIL-OUT BILL IS UNDESIRABLE AND UNNECESSARY!
Posted by: Peter Mackrael on Sep 30, 2008 11:04 AM   
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When Congress meets on Thursday, the Paulson Bail-Out Legislation should not be accepted in any form! Purchasing paper that the market says is worthless is no solution at all. Setting fair prices while avoiding graft and fraud will be very costly and probably impossible. Recent bail-outs have already cost the US taxpayers about $700bn. This bill will increase US debt to about $12 trillion while doing nothing to prevent further consolidation and restructuring by US banks.

Foreign lenders now hold about 40% of US debt. This bill may reassure them for a short while until they see that US debt continues to increase while GDP declines. It may delay but will certainly not prevent a recession in the US. This bill will reward and encourage further irresponsible behavior by bankers and investors. In effect this bail-out will transfer $700bn from the poorest 90% (taxpayers) to prevent losses incurred by the richest 10% (the wealthy investors who hold debt derivatives and shares in these investment banks). In addition to transferring public wealth to political friends of both parties in the Wall Street community (consulting fees will be huge), this bill will severely limit spending on social programs for many years to come! There is a better alternative.

Perhaps in anticipation of possible rejection of the Paulson plan, the five big investment banks: Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, have morphed into regular banks. In effect, the investment banks have increased their asset base while transferring their bad debt assets to commercial banks. I expect the bank executives believe the government will be less willing to allow these banks to fail.

The Paulson bill is not required! If these new banks require additional liquidity, existing regulations allow them to borrow from the Fed and/or sell assets to raise this capital themselves. If no private investors are interested and if one of these banks is unable to operate at a profit, we should allow that bank to fail and let any remaining assets be purchased by other investors. In the event that the remaining banks (including the many regional banks) are unable to provide consumer loans and adequate operating capital to US businesses, then and only then should the federal government buy or establish a national bank for this purpose.

Meanwhile we need to re-establish and enforce investment banking regulations. Also we need an independent investigation to understand how and why the investment banks and government got us into this liquidity crisis so it can be prevented in future. It is possible that stock manipulation and outright fraud has been committed in recent months.

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Oh, Obama ...
Posted by: artifax on Sep 30, 2008 11:22 AM   
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Luv ya, Mike, but Obama's top contributor is Goldmam Sachs, with several more Wall Streeters in his top 13. How tough do you really think he will be on them and how good to us little people?

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We got Congress by the balls
Posted by: mom'z the word on Sep 30, 2008 11:24 AM   
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I believe the reason why the bailout was defeated by a Congress that seems to be operating more on its own agenda than on the agenda of the people they represent is they are more scared of not getting re-elected in November than they are scared of what the Wall Street bullies will do.

All of a sudden what we say, millions of emails and calls against the bailout, had an effect. We have emailed and called before on issues but it did not have the same effect. Why? Because we didn't hold the trump card. The "you are out of there" vote card. This proves voters do have power. We can put the fear of god into their souls with the vote but that window of opportunity is very small. That window is now, a couple of months before an election. They have a free ride after that but now the whole election thing is in the palm of our hands. We have in our hands what they want more than life itself. Your vote to get re-elected. Even Big money contributors can not compete for this prize. This is when money is powerless to do anything. Big money can't actually vote. They can try and buy votes but they can't actually vote. Big money corporations after all are fictitious persons. They can't sign their name on a voter registration card. Makes them powerless to vote. This means right now Voters have ALL the power.

So I would suggest you go to this site http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll621.xml. It shows how your representative voted on the bailout. I was very surprised to see that Lois Capps,Dem, my representative voted for the bailout. I am going to let her know how that vote is going to effect my vote for her in November. I think it is very important to let your representatives know you know how they are voting. There is going to be another bailout bill. And fear and threats will be running rampant. You can bet your bottom dollar on that.

Play the vote card and see who Congress is more afraid of. Big money that finances their campaigns or voters who actually pull the trigger and put them in or take them out of office.

If your representatives know you can check in an instant if they bailed on a bill you are dead set against AND that you will vote them out if they fail to yield to your demands, well my friends that is what you call Power. And Big money can't do a damn thing about it at that point. Use your power wisely and use it often. Because after November as voters, we are lame ducks until the next election.

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The New World is over - The time of Kings and servants is here again
Posted by: one-of-the-masses on Sep 30, 2008 2:53 PM   
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Everyone PLEASE stop kidding yourselves, PLEASE!!! If you think anyone in Washington is looking out for your well being, you are mistaken... If you just take a step back and watch what is happening with a fresh look, you will see it.

The Washington Democrats, Washington Republicans, the Wall Street Moguls, the corporate heads, CEO's, CFO's, and the rest - are the Kings. They are all neighbors, friends, relatives, mistresses, and partners. They know each other well. They are on the same team. Yes, there may be differences of opinion on this team, but the same team no less.

And of course, there is another team. The common man and woman. The 99.9% - who are now controlled hand and foot - by the top 0.1% - the KINGS. The game is rigged. The game is deception. The game is based on playing with our emotions - the servants - to steal from us and control us.

The motivation of course, is to stay rich, and keep getting richer - to stay powerful, and to keep this power. You and I are the financial engine which supplies their riches. Just like the days of old. It was a little more straightforward in the middle ages - the wealthy would just take your money away. Today is the same thing, just wrapped in lies and deceptions.

Does anyone remember when an every day Joe or Jane held an important political office? When it did not take MILLIONS $$$ to be an elected official?

This era is over. It has been over since the late 1960's.

If we truly want change, it is not going to come from Obama, not from McCain, or any of the other insiders. It has to come from you and from me. Thomas Jefferson knew what he was saying... Every Generation needs a Revolution. Ours is way overdue.

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Not this Time!!
Posted by: Ivann on Oct 1, 2008 12:36 AM   
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I have always been an admirer of MM & his untiring efforts to expose Bu$hco. However, I think that this piece exposes him to be a bit of a loose cannon. Of course it's gratifying to see members of Congress get some comeuppance but what MM is doing here is lauding the very people he has been excoriating all along, viz. th Repubes. Doesn't MM see what has happened here? The Repubes have bulldozed the Dems into supporting this bill while the Repubes hold back, so that in the end the Dems look like the "bad guys" to Main Street. Put aside all the infuriation about Wall Street; some measure of this nature has to be passed in order to save the jobs, savings & pensions of the poor & middle class, the people whose interests MM is supposed to have been supporting all along. People, lets get the economy back on track, get Obama elected, and THEN go after the real bad guys with EVERY means at our disposal. If the econony grinds to a halt, who do you think will suffer? The fatcats & bankers of Wall Street, or the people of Flint, MI ??

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