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Obama Rejects McCain's Call for Debate 'Time Out', Both Candidates Will Meet with Bush

Posted by AlterNet Staff, AlterNet at 1:00 PM on September 24, 2008.


Obama and McCain will meet with Bush ... Letterman mocks McCain ... Obama: "This is exactly the time when people need to hear from the candidates."

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The following is a news round up of the continuing story of McCain's sudden decision to suspend his campaign and cancel his debate appearance.

Obama and McCain have agreed to meet with Bush in the White House:

Shortly after the announcement was made that Obama would attend the meeting, the presidential candidates issued a joint statement Wednesday night in which they said the American people are facing a moment of economic crisis.

Read The Full Obama-McCain Joint Statement

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Letterman reacts to McCain's suspension of his campaign and McCain's cancellation of his appearance on Letterman's show:

"You don't suspend your campaign. This doesn't smell right. This isn't the way a tested hero behaves." And he joked: "I think someone's putting something in his metamucil."

"He can't run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine, put in your second string quarterback, Sarah Palin. Where is she?"

"What are you going to do if you're elected and things get tough? Suspend being president? We've got a guy like that now!"


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Obama Rejects McCain's Proposal

Nico Pitney from the Huffington Post: Barack Obama rejected the proposal -- put forward by John McCain today -- that the two presidential candidates leave the campaign trail, delay Friday's debate, and return to Washington to work on a bailout package for the economy.



"Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time," he said, "it is not necessary for us to think we can do only one thing and suspend everything else."



Expressing concern about infusing "Capitol Hill with presidential politics," Obama said it was his desire to see the debate go forward.



"With respect to the debates it is my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who in roughly 40 days will be responsible for this mess," he said. "I think it is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one thing at once. I don't see why we can't be constructive in helping with this problem."



Obama, who would not commit to taking advertisements off the air as McCain's campaign has, delivered his remarks hours after McCain announced the suspension of his campaign. The Arizona Republican insisted that it was time for the two candidates to return to work to help push forward a bi-partisan bailout package to deal with the financial crisis.



Earlier in the afternoon, Democrats in Congress were already calling out McCain for engaging in what was described, at various times, as a "Hail Mary pass" and a "deeply cynical" ploy.



"The debate should take place as scheduled," Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in an interview with NPR to be broadcast this afternoon. "We have to be able to do a couple of things at once. That's what leadership requires."



Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said in a statement that McCain's move would actually impair negotiations over the bailout by introducing politics into the equation.


"I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Senator Obama's suggestion," said Reid. "But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation's economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op."



Later, Reid personally delivered his statement to McCain over the phone after the Arizona Republican called the Majority Leader. "Sorry, John, I already issued this statement," Reid told McCain, a Democratic staffer told the Huffington Post.


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Whether the move was a political ploy on the part of the Republican candidate, Obama wouldn't say. He did, however, note that he was the one who first broached McCain with the idea of releasing a joint statement on the crisis. That came in the form of an 8:30 a.m phone call this morning which McCain never answered. According to Obama, the two campaigns spoke six hours later, where it was suggested that in addition to the joint statement the candidates would meet in Washington D.C. with congressional leaders. Shortly thereafter, however, McCain had announced in front of television cameras that he was putting a temporary stop to the campaign functions.



"My assumption was that the joint statement would go out initially," said Obama.


McCain's Calls for Time Out
By: Nico Pitney, Huffington Post


Why does John McCain suddenly want to suspend his presidential campaign and postpone Friday's debate? His campaign surrogates are saying it's a typical "maverick" move, that McCain is simply "putting country first." Let's look at the evidence:



1) As Ben Smith notes, McCain's move "is a mark, most of all, that he doesn't like the way this campaign is going. ... The only thing that's changed in the last 48 hours is the public polling."



2) The idea of uniting the campaigns to find a bipartisan solution to the Wall Street crisis wasn't even McCain's idea. A few minutes ago, Obama spokesman Bill Burton emailed to reporters:

"At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal. At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."

3) John McCain has skipped more votes during this session than any member of the Senate except for Tim Johnson, who had major brain surgery. All of a sudden, McCain demands that the presidential race shut down so he can return to Washington?



4) For all of his sudden urgency, McCain acknowledged just yesterday that he had not even read the administration's three-page bailout proposal.



It's impossible to know why McCain chose this course, but it sure seems like more of a political stunt than a maverick moment.

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John Sidney McCain is CHICKEN S**T
Posted by: Smackback on Sep 24, 2008 1:18 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
He's obviously scared to debate Obama.

What will Republicans do next, suspend the ELECTION??? I wouldn't put it past 'em. :-(

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» exactly my thought Posted by: thistleblower
» WE'VE BEEN EXPECTING THIS Posted by: DR. LARRY MITCHELL
» A Coup In Progress Posted by: Malcolm Medgar
» RE: suspend the ELECTION Posted by: sasquuatch55
wrensis
Posted by: wrensis on Sep 24, 2008 1:35 PM   
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The facts are we are in an enormou financial crisis. I think any congressman with any brains is in DC tending to business. So far neither candidate has addressed the issue with any real substance. Obama wants to wait and see and McCain is against bailing out people who screwed up to begin with. Why this has to be about polls is beyond me.
Any polls I have seen are within the margin of error of 3-4 points.

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» RE:The fact is: Posted by: jimidee
shining knight in shining armor riding a shiny white horse
Posted by: lexicon on Sep 24, 2008 1:37 PM   
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First off, let there be no question, this is a craven political move, that scarcely deserves recognition.

But, recognize it, we must. AS IF there will be a "suspension" in the campaign. Fat chance of that! The whole scam is one big campaign moment.

Already the MSM is swallowing Rove's line on this, hook-line-and-sinker. "the maverick" is going to do something very "maverick-ey"...he's going to go to Washington! How fresh and un-partisan of him!

This should be taken as a sign...that the hearings are already coming to a close, and that the consensus has been laid-in. McCain WOULD NOT go there if there were still major kinks to work out...if he did, then his inadequacy and irrelevance to the process would be the take-away. Instead, he's going to ride in on a white horse, and "tag" the work that's been done over the past week as a product of his own sweat and maverick-ey fortitude.

The only way to counter this, though...is for democrats to drag republicans out in front of the cameras, and to get right out there, TODAY, with the status of the bill, and SHOW that it's all ready, but for a bit of tidying.

Take the "I'm going to save the day" wind out of McCain's sails.

Is he even on the committees that are addressing this?

lexicon

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Wait, McCain thinks our economy is in trouble?
Posted by: crashgrab on Sep 24, 2008 1:41 PM   
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Since when? Just a couple weeks ago he was boasting there was nothing wrong with our economy. Now all of a sudden he wants to agree with the rest of the world?!

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MCCAIN IS NOT IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 24, 2008 1:43 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
First it was a hurricane that was no where near him or Bush, so they sent their wives to the convention. Now suddenly he has more important pressing matters. He is going down in the polls, his running mate is finally being seen for what she is. He scared. Well so am I. John seems to believe that he's in charge here. He's not, we are. Now he should get his butt to the debates and stop whining. Thanks, ANNA

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Maybe foreign policy ain't the GEE OH PEE's forte anymore, yes? Let 3rds DEBATE !
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 24, 2008 2:00 PM   
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Let's see who wins them debates now !

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God, McCain Is Going To Look Like An Ass...
Posted by: pdxjoe on Sep 24, 2008 2:12 PM   
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...if he doesn't show up to the debates between the presidential candidates, which rumor has it McCain is supposed to be. How utterly irresponsible of a man who has shown us by his senate voting record that right now the election is all that matters. I don't think it makes Obama look bad to show up, since that's what he's supposed to do as, you know, a presidential candidate. It sure won't be as interesting though.

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Fragga-nakkle B.S.
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 24, 2008 2:19 PM   
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John S. McShame has a lot of nerve going to Washington to help undue the mess that his helped roll along! McShame voted for every deregulation bill that came his way! That he now wants to suspend the debates so that he can do what!? So what he's saying is he can't walk and chew gum at the same time! Obviously, he doesn't realize that we've had enough of incompetence with the current Mid-Administration!

45 more days before America speaks out! Do not let Congress approve this B.S. by passing this bill to bail out Wall Street with no oversite, no transparency, no guarantees for Main Street!

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A number of things at play...
Posted by: Toe of Wood on Sep 24, 2008 2:22 PM   
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I think that McCain has made it clear that Barack is a force to be reckoned with in debate. He has said as much to the press recently. There is already the perception that calm,cool, collected Barack will be able to ruffle the feathers of McCain regardless of the current economic crisis.

There is also this. McCain's floundering during the last 2 weeks on his position on the crises/bailouts is indefensible. His long standing economic record of de-regulation in the financial markets is currently indefensible. Privatization of social security into the stock market is indefensible. His healthcare proposal which will force employees into an unregulated private healthcare market with taxation of employer plans is indefensible.

If McCain steps to the podium on Friday, much of his record will be indefensible. When confronted with Barack's smooth operation at the podium, he may implode. That is definitely a concern.

Finally, with the vice-presidential debates scheduled for October 2 (Thursday of next week), the timeline of the election gets thrown into question. Are we to expect that the first time we see the Obama vs. McCain camps go "head to head" is going to be Joe Biden debating Sarah Palin? Will the McCain campaign set the new date of the first debate to October 2nd, and bump the VP debate later (or perhaps cancel it altogether due to scheduling constraints)? Is the McCain campaign looking to keep Sarah Palin away from the debate podium just as they mandated the press be expelled from her meetings with Karzai and Uribe?

Just my concerns. Thoughts?

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» Don't get me wrong Posted by: NthnBrazil
» RE: Don't get me wrong Posted by: Toe of Wood
How stupid do they think we are!?
Posted by: Jdog on Sep 24, 2008 2:24 PM   
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Seriously...When a hurricane hit New Orleans every Republican from Bush on down seized on the opportunity to avoid attending the RNC and "focus on relief efforts." When a similar hurricane hit Texas, these same Republicans went about their business as usual...

Now, with McCain/Palin slipping behind in the polls, McCain suddenly needs to focus on a week old issue that is largely, for the moment, stabilized.

Now...Would this require McCain's attention if there weren't a debate coming up? Would it require his attention if at that debate McCain might have to answer questions about the very crisis he claims to be focused on?

Or could it simply be that the McCain/Palin ticket is hemorrhaging votes like a sieve and wants to, once again, change the subject and distract voters.

Yeah...I think we all know the answer to that one...

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The Coup Has Begun
Posted by: Malcolm Medgar on Sep 24, 2008 3:20 PM   
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John McCain has, in consultation with Cheney and Paulson, used the pretext of a national emergency to suspend his campaign. Bush will read their statement to the nation tonight. This is what coups look like in their early stages. This is how bourgeois democracies are tipped to fascist dictatorships.

The ruling class has crossed the Rubicon here. How can they go back now and say ok let's debate, let's vote. No elections will be held. The struggle will take on a different character from here. Resistance!

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» RE: The Coup Has Begun Posted by: badkitty
Republicans always find a national crisis to turn into reasons not to be questioned or judged...
Posted by: whathappened on Sep 24, 2008 3:29 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
McCain is seriously scared of debating Obama, and he is trying to use this crisis to focus attention from the actual crisis to "wow, isn't John McCain such a great Maverick, putting the country first before his own campaign"....blah...blah.....blah.....BULLSHIT!!!

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» RE: I agree, he is afraid. Posted by: Lauren
A Desperate Political Risk
Posted by: radical53 on Sep 24, 2008 3:30 PM   
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This is just a stunt. McCain can't do anything about the financial crisis. There is no deadlock in the Congress to resolve. The bailout will pass in less than a week.

Just to play this out to its logical desperate end, McCain should sent Palin to debate Obama and see whether she would be allowed to do so. It wouldn't work because Obama could just produce Joe Biden to debate her.

Instead, McCain will knuckle under and go to the debate. He will then attribute any problems in the debate to his lack of preparation because of his "leadership" in the financial crisis.

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» RE: A Desperate Political Risk Posted by: Alohajnc
I knew weeks ago this was going to happen, I just didn't comprehend how delightful it would feel!
Posted by: foreverhope on Sep 24, 2008 3:36 PM   
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The repugs are imploding. Barack's campaign has taken on a life of its own. He's unstoppable, I believe he is also unbeatable. McCain's falling like a house of cards, his party no better than a house built on wet sand. He can't have a debate cause Liebermann won't be next to him whispering the answers. McCain has nothing to run on and never has. He is satisfying their shrinking repuglican base every day and what he needed were swing voters and he's already missed that bus. Any swing voters with a brain will notice McCain ain't all there.

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Rovian Trick
Posted by: QQOblivion on Sep 24, 2008 4:05 PM   
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Hmmmm. Maybe McCain’s strategists (Karl Rove included) WANT McCain to look like he fears he will lose the debates. Then the expectation by the public will be that Obama will do better than McCain debating, so McCain can take it easy in the debates and still beat expectations

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» Another thought.... Posted by: Michel
» RE: Another thought.... Posted by: ForestDinizen
» RE: ovian Trick Posted by: babs
» RE: Rovian Trick Posted by: Michel
Write or call the McCain campaign! Tell him to get his butt to the debates!
Posted by: crashgrab on Sep 24, 2008 4:08 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
McCain needs to explain himself to the American people! Tell him to get his butt to the debate... I just called and told his campaign headquarters what I thought!

http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/

(703) 418-2008

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Action Talks...and we know what walks!
Posted by: disfasia on Sep 24, 2008 4:38 PM   
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As a steadfast Nader supporter, I have to agree with John McCain. Obama loves to talk--a bit too much for my taste. I think McCain has a great idea: there is a problem and now let's solve it. I want to see what both senators propose right now! This means loads more than blah blah blah at the podium.

I totally disagree with Obama on this and his macho tactics to pressure McCain to talk are really quite transparent.

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McCain/Palin - Traitor and Sleeparound Drunk
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Sep 24, 2008 5:01 PM   
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Noun, Verb, “Tweety” McCain was a Viet Cong collaborator.

http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine06132008.html

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Cut & Run McCain.....run away...run away....
Posted by: what0now0toons on Sep 24, 2008 5:06 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
They don't have anything, They cannot debate the Issues, so they, Cut & Run McCain & now Palin too, want to skip out the debates and run out the clock.
Disgusting political games!
Here's my cartoon history of the Con-Servative movement, it moves, it's on You Tube.
Animated What Now Cartoon on the Fed's Billionare bailout!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8arYlKgYws
more toons at my website
www.whatnowtoons.com

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It's Called "Acting Presidential"
Posted by: gradioc on Sep 24, 2008 5:21 PM   
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Is it cynical? Maybe, but McCain actually has good instincts about this sort of thing. Seeing a candidate for President throw the script out the window resonates. People get tired of the "on message" sound bite every night. Something out of the blue like this looks like putting the nation first. Obama can combat it by saying McCain has gone back to DC to fight for the Bush bailout plan, but he does not need to go back because the Bush plan is DOA anyway. Here's what he should say; "Seven. Hundred. Billion. Dollars. And the plan for this giveaway? It's three pages long. Three pages. I WROTE BOOK REPORTS IN THE THIRD GRADE LONGER THAN THAT! Their plan comes down to, "Give us a blank check and then we'll try to figure out a way to fix it." Sen. McCain thinks that's just fine and he's going to do everything he can to support it. Well, I think America has had enough of giving George Bush blank checks and trusting him to get it right. I'm curious. Are we just going to ship pallet loads of $100 bills to Wall Street the way we did in Iraq? No oversight or even a feeble attempt to take care of tax dollars is required. That seems to be the plan Sen McCain is going back to Washington to fight for." Well, if I was writing for Obama, that's what he would say.

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Walk and Chew Gum
Posted by: Lilly on Sep 24, 2008 5:23 PM   
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A historical note for those not old enough to remember President Gerald Ford: somebody then (famously) said of Ford that "could not walk and chew gum at the same time". I thought of that today when McCain suggested suspending the presidential campaign while he takes care of other business. Perhaps he would also like to suspend the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

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Why Reps. don't have to debate or speak to press:
Posted by: Ron1127 on Sep 24, 2008 5:29 PM   
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Let's see... neither McSame nor Pallin will speak to the press...

My guess is they don't have to. The GOP has become adept, and practiced, at stealing elections. They really don't care what you think. If you get out of line, they will wharehouse you for a goodly number of years thanks to the (sarcastically named)Patriot Act.

They have their avid base and they have the voting machine moguls in their pockets; and, sadly, let us not forget that staling votes for them will come with the repeating of "Americans weren't quite ready to elect a Negro".

You are free to protest - witness the brutal police supression when the media has a chance of portraying the protesters as actually having a political point of view rather than being the "anarchists" they've been branded and dismissed by the GOP.

My bet is we will keep on paying our taxes to enrich the few at the cost of most. Please don't be surprised when Palin is President, First Dude is co-president and McSame is finally fully metastasised.

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FINALLY !!! GOD IS GIVING OBAMA SOME COURAGE !!!
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 24, 2008 5:38 PM   
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Now will GOD give Obama the courage to finally take back his flip-flopping to the rightwing and get him to pay attention to his base ?!? GOD, I hope so !

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Didn't McCain (or at least his staff)....
Posted by: EncinoM on Sep 24, 2008 6:18 PM   
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just comment on inventing a device that could allow people over great distances to send and receive e-mails and documents even if they were not at a computer.

Would that device, the small BLACK hand device be BERRY useful for him now.

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trying to extend the Palin bounce...
Posted by: lexicon on Sep 24, 2008 6:40 PM   
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Palin just gave her second interview (wow! that's almost more interviews than I'VE given to callers over the last week!), and by "suspending" his campaign, hoping he'll force Obama to do the same, he strategizes that the ONLY thing the pundits will have to talk about is Palin, and how McCain is in washington, taking care of the PEOPLE'S business.

won't work.

Too stupid. Not such a fine line between clever and stupid. anymore.


lexicon

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Earth To Obama: You’re Being End-Arounded.
Posted by: lindat on Sep 24, 2008 7:21 PM   
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I can’t believe this. McCain and the Republicans largely created this financial disaster, and now he's hustling to position himself as the leader putting America first (TM) and stepping up to fix it. And Obama’s answer as McCain hustles to paint himself as the triage leader addressing a crushing national crisis? Blaming and finger-pointing.

Oh, and the debate is on. For more blaming and finger pointing. While McCain leaps into action to save the country.

Even though Obama is 100% correct, Americans DO NOT TOLERATE blamers and finger-pointers – especially those who do not step up to action to help fix a disaster.

Once again, Obama is caught off guard. Obama should have been the one to suspend his campaign to help create the bailout package; HE’s the one that has more to prove on the leadership front. Instead, he’s playing right into the "talker not doer" meme.

"I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me," McCain said. "I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem."

McCain, on the high road, stepping up and showing LEADERSHIP. Obama.... Not so much.

Will we ever learn?

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guess what?
Posted by: peskyfly1 on Sep 24, 2008 8:38 PM   
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There isn't going to be a debate because there isn't going to be an election. President Bush will make the announcement on the week of Oct.5 that the financial crisis has caused the indefinite suspension of the presidential election. At least, that's what the Russians are saying. Apparently the British have already been informed as well.

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Malcolm X
Posted by: peskyfly1 on Sep 24, 2008 8:43 PM   
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The U.S. military will be used to squash any dissent.

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Why Songbird Mccain won't debate? Because's he a coward
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Sep 24, 2008 9:53 PM   
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The following text was copied form the nonprofit Web site, www.UnfitMcCain.com.

In McCain’s 1999 autobiography, Faith of My Fathers, he admitted to smoking cigarettes provided him by his captors, a violation of the Code of Conduct for U.S. prisoners of war. It is reasonable to assume the North Vietnamese weren’t aware he was addicted to nicotine. Thus, if McCain, a two-packs a day smoker, had initially refused the tobacco favor, nothing would’ve been said or inferred.

On the other hand, when he took that first puff, his captors knew instantly McCain had a weakness that could make him more vulnerable to disclosing military secrets during interrogations, which he did.
In return for medical treatment at a civilian hospital, a privilege never granted to other injured POWs, McCain reportedly told NVA interrogators the name of his aircraft carrier, how many Navy pilots had been lost, the number of planes in his flight formation, tactics used during bomb runs and the location of rescue ships in the Tonkin Gulf.

Because of the revelations which McCain repeated in propaganda radio broadcasts, the North Vietnamese contemptuously nicknamed him “Songbird.”

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined, “PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral,” described one of McCain’s radio recordings: “Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.”

During his six-week hospital stay and for months afterwards, McCain continued to cooperate with NVA interrogators. He made more radio broadcasts for the enemy and met with foreign dignitaries, enjoying hot tea, coffee and cigarettes in posh settings while back at the Hanoi Hilton and other internment camps, his fellow POWs struggled to stay alive.

In one case, while meeting with Cuban journalist Fernando Barral in 1970, after McCain was no longer being physically abused by his captors, he voluntarily spoke in Spanish, even though he was obligated as an American POW to be evasive during their conversation. Had McCain feigned ignorance of Barral's native language, the one-hour interview, which North Vietnam exploited for propaganda purposes, might not have lasted five minutes.

Although McCain claimed he didn’t discuss military matters with Barral, the Hanoi Hilton's U.S. commander, SRO Jeremiah Denton, later issued an order forbidding POWs to be interviewed by visitors.

Said McCain on page 305 of Faith of My Fathers “[Denton's] decision was a sound one, even though it deprived me of further opportunities to demonstrate my psychic equilibrium… not to mention
the [loss of] extra cigarettes and coffee."


Also in his autobio, while admitting to accepting special favors from the enemy -- i.e. drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes -- McCain conveniently omitted the fact he had conversed with Barral in Spanish, a more serious Code of Conduct violation.

End of UnfitMcCain.com extract.

By cooperating with Fernando Barral in 1970 instead of resisting him, Songbird McCain showed himself to be a coward -- just like now, trying to duck Frday night's debate.

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This just gets worse & worser
Posted by: mohican_nation on Sep 25, 2008 8:11 AM   
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IF Johnnie leaves race, Sarah remains for VP slot:

... Jeb for Prez...

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Obama would rather debate...
Posted by: Romans1 on Sep 25, 2008 11:26 AM   
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Because he would rather place blame than work in Washington. He's never been much for actually doing his job anyway. He was an absentee state senator and he's an absentee senator. Rhetoric and personal attacks on McCain will not solve anything. Mccain is the one taking his job seriously. Obama just considers it a stepping stone.

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» Poor soul. Posted by: Opinionator
Something distorted...
Posted by: ubaguba on Sep 25, 2008 11:42 AM   
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And if Mac Cain deal was to sink definitely the republican Party for revenge by choosing to most idiotic person on his side and knowing his health won't let him finish his mandate?

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Would it be possible
Posted by: Opinionator on Sep 25, 2008 3:15 PM   
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for McCain to concede the election today or tomorrow? What a grand and glorious day that would be. Look at the great savings for us taxpayers! And we wouldn't have to wait until Nov. 4 to find out who won!

Maybe if we all pray hard enough McCain will concede NOW.

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The debates are all talk...
Posted by: disfasia on Sep 25, 2008 7:24 PM   
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Personally, I agree with McCain that everyone in government focus on the financial crisis. Neither he nor Obama have really said or done anything substantial about this crisis. I would much rather see them in action doing their jobs (for which they are paid) as senators, where we the public can see not what they say, but that which they do, than watch them blah blahing for 90 minutes in Mississippi.

As an addendum, I really dislike this liberal macho talk of who wins or loses these debates. These are merely debates, a platform for candidates to state absolutel truths or fabulous lies, neither of which they will be held accountable in the future. What really matters is not what these candidates say, as we have seen Obama go from praising Palestinian statehood last year to kissing AIPAC rearends this year. I would feel much more at ease seeing the candidates in a test drive: instead of answering what would you do to save the economy, let's see what they have to offer us in real time, in real life!

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