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Intriguing Twists and Turns in the Anthrax Case

Posted by dday, Hullabaloo at 6:34 AM on August 5, 2008.


There's definitely a desire on the part of the government to make this an open and shut case, but is it?

There is a very coordinated push to leak details about the late Bruce Ivins to certify that he is the "lone nut" anthrax killer, details which don't entirely hold up upon scrutiny. There's definitely a desire on the part of the government to make this an open and shut case seven years after the fact, but it doesn't completely hold together. In fact, the media reports are almost all contradictory.

The LA Times is claiming that Ivins stood to make money off of an anthrax panic, because he invented some bioterror vaccines, but inside the article it's made clear that we're talking about not much more than $10,000. A social worker who worked as a therapist with Ivins was reportedly scared to death of him and claimed that he tried to poison people in the past, but the social worker, Jean Duley, has her own checkered past, with a long rap sheet, and apparently knew about the grand jury investigation, as it's in her restraining order against Ivins:

client has a history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, actions, plans, threats & actions toward theripist. Dr. David Irwin his psychiatrist called him homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions will testify with other details FBI involved, currently under investigation & will be charged with 5 capital murders. I have been subpoena to testify before a federal grand jury August 1, 2008 in Washington, D.C.

How would she know that before testifying? Why does she have intimate knowledge of the case? Why is she the recipient of FBI information?

The FBI is leaking to the LA Times that DNA evidence proves Ivins' guilt, and that after new genetic tests it was clear that only Ivins could have been the killer. But the New York Times Scott Shane calls the evidence circumstantial and that the grand jury was planning to continue to meet for weeks.

While genetic analysis had linked the anthrax letters to a supply of the deadly bacterium in Dr. Ivins's laboratory at Fort Detrick, Md., at least 10 people had access to the flask containing that anthrax, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly.

Agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation also have no evidence proving that Dr. Ivins visited New Jersey on the dates in September and October 2001 when investigators believe the letters were sent from a Princeton mailbox, the source said.The source acknowledged that there might be some elements of the evidence of which he was unaware. And while he characterized what he did know about as "damning," he said that instead of irrefutable proof, investigators had an array of indirect evidence that they argue strongly implicates Dr. Ivins in the attacks, which killed 5 people and sickened 17 others.

And Ivins held security clearance as recently as last month and was only barred from the Ft. Detrick site after counselors warned of his "deteriorating mental condition."

This could be a guilty man knowing the walls are closing in, or a marked man who was harassed into suicide because many in government wanted to close the case. The point is that there are a lot of questions, and until the evidence is revealed there's no reason to accept the official story. It is called "unlikely" that Ivins even knew how to produce weaponized, dry anthrax and didn't have access to it. (The site Anthrax Vaccine is going to be indispensable going forward; Dr. Meryl Nass, the author, and Glenn Greenwald appeared on Democracy Now this morning.)

All we know is that US government labs are implicated in a domestic bioterror investigation, which was twisted at the time to further make the case for the invasion of Iraq. Regarding the false ABC report linking the attacks to Iraq (which was not the first, by the way, there was a lot of misinformation or disinformation out there at the time), Glenn Greenwald writes:

Relating to ABC, a reader exchanged emails with Brian Ross this weekend, and Ross wrote this (the email was sent from Ross' ABC address; yesterday, I emailed both him and ABC's Jeffrey Schneider to request confirmation of its authenticity, and they didn't reply):

As we reported more than six years ago our information came from current and former government scientists. The report was discointed [sic] and denied by the White House which we reported. I believe now the scientists got it wrong although they insisted they were correct long after.

Actually, this is the first time, to my knowledge, that Ross has ever acknowledged that his sources for the bentonite story were "current and former government scientists." Given that he previously described his sources as being "well-placed," that means, presumably, that they were scientists with extremely close proximity to Fort Detrick (where the anthrax tests were being conducted) if not Fort Detrick scientists themselves. That would mean, if the FBI's accusation against Ivins is true, that the same Government lab where the attacks originated was the source for falsely telling Ross that tests revealed evidence linking the attacks to Iraq. In light of that, how can Ross possibly continue to conceal which Government scientists disseminated this false story?

It is also worth noting that Ross, who was a key witness in the Steven Hatfill litigation (since he had published numerous incriminating leaks from the DOJ) badgered at least one of his government sources, FBI spokesman Edwin Cogswell, to provide Ross with a release authorizing Ross to disclose the source's identity (allowing Ross to avoid being held in contempt by the court). Has Ross sought a similar release from his bentonite sources? Clearly, at least in some instances, Ross is able to convince his sources to allow him to disclose their identity when he is properly motivated to do so. For the reasons Professors Rosen and Gillmor point out, no release should be necessary, since these sources fed him deliberate falsehoods, but one wonders if Ross has even tried to persuade them to give permission for Ross to disclose who they are.

There are far more questions than answers at this point. ABC and any other journalist who got tips about this case need to burn their sources if they believe that the sources have lied. Tom Daschle, who received one of the anthrax-laced letters, wants full disclosure on the botched investigation as well.

There's clearly going to be a sustained effort to close this case, finger Ivins as the killer, and turn away from any of the lingering questions. That would be a huge mistake.

UPDATE: There's also this.

After the Oct. 5, 2001, death from anthrax exposure of Sun photo editor Robert Stevens, Mueller was "beaten up" during President Bush's morning intelligence briefings for not producing proof the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden, according to a former aide.

"They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East," the retired senior FBI official told The News [...]

In the immediate aftermath of the 2001 anthrax attacks, White House officials repeatedly pressed FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove it was a second-wave assault by Al Qaeda, but investigators ruled that out, the Daily News has learned.

On October 15, 2001, President Bush said, "There may be some possible link" to Bin Laden, adding, "I wouldn't put it past him." Vice President Cheney also said Bin Laden's henchmen were trained "how to deploy and use these kinds of substances, so you start to piece it all together."

But by then the FBI already knew anthrax spilling out of letters addressed to media outlets and to a U.S. senator was a military strain of the bioweapon. "Very quickly [Fort Detrick, Md., experts] told us this was not something some guy in a cave could come up with," the ex-FBI official said. "They couldn't go from box cutters one week to weapons-grade anthrax the next."

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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Aug 5, 2008 6:45 AM   
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Not quite October... but look how much the media is talking about a case they haven't said anything about in around 6 years... to the point of many saying we "haven't been attacked since 9/11"... even though this act of terrorism occurred AFTER 9/11.

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sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Aug 5, 2008 7:36 AM   
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When the anthrax attacks happened I read that the strain had been traced to the bioterrorism lab at Fort Detrick Maryland then heard nothing more till now.
Has this guy been working there?
Why wait till now to off himself? Could he have had help?

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» RE: sickofsleaze Posted by: Lauren
» RE: sickofsleaze Posted by: Quannah
Add Murder & Attempted Murder (Genocide?) To Admins list
Posted by: Purple Girl on Aug 5, 2008 8:19 AM   
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Talks of invading Iraq before 9/11? Just needed a 'cause'?
McCain,Bush & Cheney pointing the finger at AQ and their 'accomplice' Saddam when they already Knew the strain originated from a Military base Here!
When did Mac sign Up to serve the Cheney Regime? "Can't Beat them Join Them" or has he always been a Red herring, Like Nadar?
As for the 'Social Worker' - haivng been a social Worker, I can tell You We do NOT have the power or right to Diagnosis, nor Prognosis.that is the explicit realm of those with Meidcal Degrees (MD's and Psychiatrists) We can only report our impressions, not make such determinations or judgements. Who was she Reporting to, working under. does she even have a license which grants her any such right?
If he was such an emminent danger to others, why did she wait so long to report it- confidentiality can be broken if a 'Clear & present Danger exists'- even if not a legal right, at least a moral obligation- esp regarding Public safety. She appears to be nothing more then an idiot they got to do their dirty work- Like Goodling.
As for those in Congress who failed to perform their duty as an Oversight mechanism and to protect & defend the People against foreign & Domestic enemies- why did none of them focus on the fact his strain came from a US military base, and the Lies which were being told to US? Why did they remain Silent on the Fact it was OUR Anthrax which was used against the Public, not AQ's or Saddams?
This Case is NOT Closed Nor Solved- there are many who have Questions to answer- The admin, Congress, Ft Detrick, FBI...and all the other supporting cast members~!

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Ignore me. I'm a conspiracy theorist
Posted by: Joeraider on Aug 5, 2008 9:05 AM   
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The 'terrorists' didn't go from box cutters one day to weapons grade anthrax the next. It's laughable that people think the events of 9/11 were pulled off by thugs with box cutters. It was an inside, military style operation. The same people with access to anthrax had the means to knock down the twin towers. People who believe the government's official conspiracy theory are either loopy or frightened of thinking for themselves.

This new suspect may have been crazy violent, but he doesn't seem to be the usual run-of-the-mill right wing Christian Bigot wacko. There is much more to this than meets the eye.

One of the things you learn about working with law enforcement investigators (along with a distain for cops) is that this country has produced a superior level of detective. Certain dogged FBI agents have been on this case for over 6 years now. But I would bet that frequently, in their quest for answers, these agents have been stonewalled by protocals and agency clearance procedures. Remember, where those doing the grunt work are normally Civil Service, those at the top are political appointees. The priorities differ on both levels.

On 9/11, interceptors for NORAD, which up until that point was perfect in the defense of American skyways, were diverted for training exercises conducted by Richard Cheney. Had this not taken place, I am sure those pilots, who have taken an oath they believe in to defend these shores, would have been able to stop the planes from hitting their targets. Then the Bush Administration would have a hard time detonating the charges already in place in the building without questions.

So little attention has been focused on solving the crimes of 9/11 as we were thrust into a war that robbed this country of freedoms and treasury.

Who committed these crimes? Follow the money.

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» RE: Ignore me. I'm a conspiracy theorist Posted by: Kitty Lady Oregon
The Patriot Act
Posted by: judithkrain on Aug 5, 2008 9:06 AM   
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Didn't the anthrax letters go to Daschle and Leahy just as hey were considering holding up the Patriot Act????????

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» You nailed it! Posted by: manderson
A patsy, perhaps?
Posted by: GuitarBill on Aug 5, 2008 10:32 AM   
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There's no evidence that Dr. Ivins, a microbiologist, had the skills necessary to turn the pathogen into an inhalable powder.

Dr. Ivins was a vaccine specialist, which is a branch of microbiology, not a specialist in aerosol physics.

Only someone with a background in aerosol physics could be responsible for the anthrax mailings.

Thus, this leads me to conclude that he was setup by the FBI for a crime he did not and could not commit.

So, what's really going on here? I don't know, but this story stinks to high heaven.

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A patsy, perhaps?
Posted by: GuitarBill on Aug 5, 2008 10:47 AM   
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There's no evidence that Dr. Ivins, a microbiologist, had the skills necessary to turn the pathogen into an inhalable powder.

Dr. Ivins was a vaccine specialist, which is a branch of microbiology, not a specialist in aerosol physics.

Only someone with a background in aerosol physics could be responsible for the anthrax mailings.

Thus, this leads me to conclude that he was setup by the FBI for a crime he did not and could not commit.

So, what's really going on here? I don't know, but this story stinks to high heaven.

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No twist - just another piece of PNAC's planned 'Pearl Harbor'
Posted by: PakiBoy on Aug 5, 2008 12:56 PM   
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to get scared Americans support the war-mongers.

"The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor" - PNAC

After all these years the true identity of the so-called hijackers remain unknown, as documented here by BBC.

American media goes in overdrive on the disappearance of some high school flake in Aruba, yet where are the interviews of all those people who came in contact with "Mohammad Ata" and others? Why has there been a complete blackout of these people?

"Mohammad Ata" and others apparently were partying it up at strip bars, drank, and had girlfriends. Really? doesn't really fit the profile of a muslim fundamentalist...

and now the Anthrax case: one way or the other the US government used the anthrax scare to get the stupid population behind the war.

Anthrax came from a US bio-war lab. There is nothing much need to be said.

Just like Bay of Pigs and Gulf of Tonkin...

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Something stinks
Posted by: bettyn on Aug 5, 2008 2:24 PM   
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about this whole case...and it's not anthrax.

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That's why you don't bother with psychiatrists
Posted by: blogbooks on Aug 5, 2008 3:38 PM   
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They're worthless human beings that weren't even intelligent enough to choose a real major in college (lol psychology lol).

If you're dumb enough to choose psychology as your undergrad major and THEN dumb enough to go to grad school for it as well then how stupid would it make me to pay you to talk to me?

This "Dr." is probably dumber than his psychiatrist.

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What's more absurd?
Posted by: rafey on Aug 6, 2008 6:57 AM   
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The only thing more absurd than the idea that "Ivins did it" is the idea that people will actually buy this idea.

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