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Maureen needs a date

Posted by Lakshmi Chaudhry at 11:12 AM on November 2, 2005.


Dowd puts on a staggering display of self-absorption in the name of feminism.
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Maureen Dowd's now infamous essay (based on her new book) in the New York Times magazine -- "What's a Modern Girl to Do" -- left this modern girl with an intractable dilemma: so much to ridicule, so little time. But really, like I have better things to do. For those who were wise enough to give this staggering display of self-absorption a miss, let me recap.

Dowd was a lipstick-wearing renegade in college, where she bravely resisted the efforts of hairy-lipped feminists determined to part her from her "gold lamé gown cut on the bias." But she kinda liked the whole equality thang and assumed that "her earnest sisters in black turtlenecks and Birkenstocks" would do their job just so Dowd would be free to shimmy her way into a fabulous career without giving up her feminine right to have an adoring man by her side.

Sadly, those bitches dropped the ball and we ended up with "The Backlash." But Dowd has not given up the struggle -- though to achieve what exactly remains unclear -- despite being foiled repeatedly by excruciatingly shallow women (usually young) and men (mostly middle-aged). Here's a select but representative -- only of Dowd's rolodex -- sampling of the fools this poor woman has to suffer. First the gals:

"Men like hunting, and we shouldn't deprive them of their chance to do their hunting and mating rituals," my 26-year-old friend Julie Bosman, a New York Times reporter.
"(Going dutch on a date is) a scuzzy 70's thing, like platform shoes on men," (a suitably anonymous and nondescript young woman) told me.
One of my girlfriends, a TV producer in New York, told me much the same thing: "If you offer, and they accept, then it's over."
And here are the guys after the JUMP:

After I first wrote on this subject, a Times reader named Ray Lewis e-mailed me. While we had assumed that making ourselves more professionally accomplished would make us more fascinating, it turned out, as Lewis put it, that smart women were "draining at times."
Or as Bill Maher more crudely but usefully summed it up to Craig Ferguson on the "Late Late Show" on CBS: "Women get in relationships because they want somebody to talk to. Men want women to shut up."
Or, as Craig Bierko, a musical comedy star and actor who played one of Carrie's boyfriends on "Sex and the City," told me, "Deep down, beneath the bluster and machismo, men are simply afraid to say that what they're truly looking for in a woman is an intelligent, confident and dependable partner in life whom they can devote themselves to unconditionally until she's 40."
All this to establish that there is a very, very good reason ... why Dowd has a problem snagging a man:
At a party for the Broadway opening of "Sweet Smell of Success," a top New York producer gave me a lecture on the price of female success that was anything but sweet. He confessed that he had wanted to ask me out on a date when he was between marriages but nixed the idea because my job as a Times columnist made me too intimidating. Men, he explained, prefer women who seem malleable and awed. He predicted that I would never find a mate because if there's one thing men fear, it's a woman who uses her critical faculties. Will she be critical of absolutely everything, even his manhood?
A worry that is surely unwarranted with someone who attacks women like Judy Dean for putting her dull little job as a doctor before her man's political career. But then again, as Wonkette writes: "As to her thesis -- something about how men are scared of smart and talented women -- a friend of ours did wonder if that means the single Ms. Dowd believes her married friends are dumber and less talented than she." To quote the New Yorker out of context, the answer, reader, is yes.

What is truly worrisome, however, is Dowd's personal life -- how bad must it be to inspire an entire book that offers up more of the same? I say we petition the New York Times to get her a date -- our Sunday mornings depend on it.

NOTE: Read the definitive takedown of Dowd's shoddy research methods by Caryl Rivers and Rosalind Barnett HERE. Let's just say Ms Dowd has been more than a little selective in choosing her sources. For some inexplicable reason there are plenty of men who have no problem with strong, talented women.

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Lakshmi Chaudhry is a senior editor at In These Times, and the former senior editor of AlterNet. You can write to her at lakshmi@alternet.org.


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stong, educated women
Posted by: drmeow on Nov 2, 2005 2:07 PM   
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I have to say, if Dowd was correct, not a single female in my family would be married (in fact, I wouldn't exist, nor would my mother, father, or grandmother):

Maternal great grandmother: college education (at turn of the century), married, widowed, remarried (to her first husband's rival for her affections who stayed unmarried through her marriage and a number of years of widowhood).
Maternal grandmother: college educated, traveled and lived in South America as a single young woman in the 1920's, about to start Masters program when she met my grandfather, married, moved to South America with him.
Mother: 2.5 masters (had to quit one program 1/2 way through), married to same husband for 45 years, convinced husband to take overseas job in Middle East in 60's.

Paternal grandmother: college educated, married, started own business, heavily involved in politics in 30's (lost out on a high powered position due to refusal of quid pro quo sexual harrassment)

Sister: Ph.D., married, tenure track faculty
Sister-in-law: Ph.D., married, now finishing up med school
Self: Ph.D., married, Research scientist (made more than my husband for 1st 5 years of our relationship)
All - strong, educated, opinionated, successful, and happy in our relationships

My analysis - Dowd has some other fatal personality flaw that prevents her from snagging a man. Maybe some therapy will help :)

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» RE: stong, educated women Posted by: medstudgeek
» So.... Posted by: bettsoff
» RE: stong, educated women Posted by: betterfuture
What color is the sky in your world, lady?
Posted by: SBK on Nov 2, 2005 3:05 PM   
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This editorial was out of control. Dowd completely ignores the rest of the classes who are unable to afford to stay home after their degrees are finished. She paints this pretty 50s whirlpool world where Mrs. is back in style, please? Who can forego health care benefits to stay home to go to the spa? I know no one that can afford to live on one paycheck in Bushworld. Has she ever heard of student loans? Don't use your research to create some mythical farcical trend sewn from a privileged perspective, that's just bad science. Some women may not use their degrees, but many have no choice whether or not men are intimidated by it.

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Why so dismissive & derisive toward Dowd?
Posted by: richards1052 on Nov 3, 2005 12:39 AM   
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I think the tone of your article was far too huffy and derisive toward Dowd. I'm glad you linked to the article which questioned some of the survey research Dowd cited because this critique was quite informative & balanced in its discussion (unlike your own). The writers of the critique didn't blame Dowd for her mistakes or say she had a suspect underlying agenda as you seem to believe. They didn't question her values or femiinist bona fides.

If Dowd misinterpreted data or used data from survey results that were unsound to begin with, this is something that we are all prone to do. It doesn't mean we're worthy of opprobrium.

I agree that Dowd was far more downbeat about gender relations in her article than was warranted. But it's the way she's feeling & she's entitled to express those feelings (& we're entitled to doubt & critique them).

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Agreed
Posted by: brunowe on Nov 3, 2005 6:47 AM   
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One of Ms. Dowd's sources was the front page article in the NYT about how Ivy League women were supposedly forsaking careers for family. That article has been subject to much criticism of its methodology, which I took the trouble to email her about (incl. links to columns in The Nation and Slate).

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But...but...educated women ARE marrying "down"
Posted by: CrystalD on Nov 3, 2005 8:37 AM   
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A couple years ago, the economist Elaina Rose crunched some data and found that, contra MoDo, educated women DO "marry down" when looking for a mate:

http://www.econ.washington.edu/user
/erose/hypergamy_v2a_paper.pdf

(You need Adobe Acrobat to read this paper)

Not all educated women marry men with less education, but most are perfectly willing. The real losers in the marriage market, the wallflowers at the orgy, are not the high-powered women whose lot MoDo laments, but men with less than a high school education. Sociologist William Julius Wilson has been pointing this out for years. Wilson also shows us that these men usually don't have jobs or feel connected to their communities - emphatically NOT a problem for educated women.

What really ticks me off about MoDo is that this sort of whining about fashion and dubious "trends" is what makes feminism sound so elitist to many people. As a woman and a feminist, I'm more concerned with bread-and-butter issues like health care, jobs and domestic violence. And I really, really want to sic Barbara Ehrenreich and Susan Faludi on MoDo.

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Dr (never use this title)
Posted by: der_Alte on Nov 3, 2005 9:33 AM   
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My qualifications?

recently observed my 50th wedding anniv. & know less about women than allowable.

I saw Ms dowd on the Bill Maher show & have read some of her cols. so any opinion has got to be pretty ltd. However, I see her as seriously self-absorbed and maybe overrates herself. I couldn't figure out from her appearance on the B.M. show but mostly she seemed to be preening for the camera & added nothing to the debate.

Anybody that attractive---I'd say keep looking & find somebody not quite so wise.

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Question about Dowd pic
Posted by: esactun on Nov 3, 2005 10:21 AM   
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The pic obviously was staged. Why? Because--
Where can you find a smoky bar in New York these days?

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» RE: Question about Dowd pic Posted by: bettsoff
silly girl
Posted by: samo on Nov 3, 2005 11:45 AM   
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Maureen Dowd is self-delusional. For any real strong, intelligent man, she would be too silly and girly, and not sharp enough. If she's finding men intimidated by her, she's hanging out with weak men. I'll take Lakshmi's brains and, um, balls (if there's another word that better says it--and it's not "huffy"--by all means substitute), any day.

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» RE: silly girl Posted by: medstudgeek
» RE: silly girl Posted by: Lakshmi Chaudhry
Nice Guys
Posted by: maatfeather on Nov 3, 2005 12:22 PM   
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This seems like the flip side of the single man's lament "women won't date nice guys." Many of them are not as nice as they think. Maybe Ms. Dowd isn't as desirable as she thinks, either. Or maybe she should just start dating nice guys!

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Who's afraid of Maureen Dowd?
Posted by: hbw on Nov 3, 2005 1:13 PM   
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If circumstances allowed, I would volunteer to treat MoDo (that's cute, who came up with that?) out to a reasonably priced dinner and an off-off-Broadway show. I would even accept her offer to pay for the next date.

Even if she's a piggy-back progressive, I like the way Maureen writes, managing most times to be caustic without stooping to Coulter-esque ad hominems. She recognizes that feminism includes advocating the right to be feminine while doing equal work for equal pay, even in the cutthroat news business.

That said, I also like the way Lakshmi writes, and would happily spend an evening with her. Conversation with Lakshmi would more likely be a two-way street; Maureen would probably dominate the dialog.

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Hiss......
Posted by: morticia on Nov 3, 2005 1:14 PM   
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All I can say is "Meow!"

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And I thought ...
Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Nov 3, 2005 1:53 PM   
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I generally read Maureen Dowd in Newsweek ...

I found that particular column so destestible on the face of it ... I wound up concluding that MD had tried an exercise in arch irony, and greatly overestimated her both own cleverness and her audience's sophisitication.

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Hiss....cont'd.
Posted by: morticia on Nov 5, 2005 2:22 PM   
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Any time you write about gender politics, you're jumping right into the briar patch. I thought M.D.'s piece was droll and insightful. I think a lot of y'all who are hissing and spitting at her are suffering from an irony deficiency.

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MoDo on men
Posted by: mim on Nov 7, 2005 8:17 PM   
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It's deja vu all over again! In the late 70's IIRC, the Hite Report, by Shere Hite, came to similar despairing conclusions about men. That had me depressed for a while until I learned about the real culprit: lousy methodology.

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mjaybee
Posted by: mjaybee on Nov 21, 2005 2:22 PM   
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"I can't get a date!", said Maureen, dowdily.

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Get Maureen a date
Posted by: der_Alte on Jan 13, 2006 6:52 PM   
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I commented, some time ago, gratuitously, that M.D. was a mite self absorbed, but as for getting her a date, we are 1st obliged to see if she wants one. I don't think so. I've been around guys a long time, & I can't remember one who'd want to date her, let alone get involved w/ her. She's too deeply in love w/ Maureen.

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