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Hospital Attempts Deportation of Woman With Inadequate Insurance

Posted by Cara , Feministe at 3:23 PM on May 19, 2008.


An immigrant women from Honduras - with legal documentation - faces deportation because her insurance does not cover long-term care.
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An immigrant woman from Honduras who has very recently awakened from a coma is being threatened with what can effectively be called deportation, because she does not have the insurance needed to cover her medical bills. (Don’t read the comments in these articles unless you want to lose your lunch.) But here is the real kicker: while it would be repulsive and incredibly inhumane to deport an uninsured/under-insured person with a serious medical condition because of their undocumented status, despite the lack of adequate facilities for their care in their nations of citizenship, it isn’t even the case here. Sonia del Cid Iscoa has a current visa and in the U.S. legally. (All emphasis in quoted text is mine.)



A gravely ill woman at risk of being removed from the country for lack of adequate insurance coverage awoke from a coma Tuesday.


The hospital has been seeking to return her to her native Honduras; her family took the hospital to court.


[. . .]


Iscoa, 34, has a valid visa and has lived in the United States for more than 17 years. She has no family in Honduras.


But St. Joseph’s Hospital and Medical Center sought to have her sent to Honduras when she went into a coma April 20 after giving birth to a daughter about 8 weeks premature. Iscoa has an amended version of Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System coverage that does not cover long-term care, Curtin said. But her family worried that the move would seriously harm her, or, at the very least, prevent her from ever returning to the United States.


Iscoa’s mother, Joaquina del Cid Plasecea, obtained a temporary restraining order to keep her from being moved. Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Carey Hyatt also ordered that the family post a $20,000 bond by Tuesday to cover St. Joseph’s costs of postponing the transfer.

However, Curtin said that the hospital gave the family three more days to come up with the money before a hearing Friday.


If the family can prove that Iscoa would suffer irreparable injury by a move, the bond will be refunded and Iscoa will not be transferred. But if Hyatt determines that Iscoa is not in imminent danger by a move, the family will forfeit the bond.


A stipulation to a court order issued by Hyatt Tuesday evening said that the parties were “actively exploring alternative sources of securing payment for the medical bills of Sonia Iscoa.”


The original story is close to a week old — but a judge has postponed the hearing until this Friday (which would be May 23rd). As I said, the Honduran hospital that St. Joseph’s is looking to transfer Iscoa to has agreed to accept her as a patient but warns that they cannot provide her with the care she needs.


Iscoa went to the hospital on April 16 because of abnormal bleeding, but the hospital sent her home, family members said. The next day, her doctor asked her to return, and when her water broke and she began having contractions on April 20, she was rushed into surgery and did not regain consciousness afterwards.

“They told us that she was bleeding excessively, and they had to do a hysterectomy on her, but they didn’t know why she was in a coma,” said Maria Adame, a family spokeswoman.


Iscoa went into kidney failure. She had two more surgeries and had an ovary removed.


Meanwhile, Adame said the family is having trouble getting medical records from St. Joseph’s.


An independent doctor was scheduled to examine her on Saturday to help assess whether she can or should be moved.


Liliana Flores, a spokeswoman for Hospital Escuela, said that the hospital would accept Iscoa but cautioned that its ICU unit only has four beds and the hospital has no dialysis unit.
There are attorneys and Honduran groups who are desperately trying to help Iscoa and her family.

Suzanne Pfister, a spokeswoman for the hospital, said that as many as eight patients are transferred each month to other countries, mostly to Mexico.


It’s a practice some lawyers are calling into question, specifically whether a hospital has the legal authority to force patients to cross international borders against their will. One attorney in Tucson has twice called police and accused hospital staff of kidnapping to stop the transfers.


“Right now the hospital is exploring with us the alternative means of being able to try to provide a long-term solution to the problem,” said Iscoa’s attorney, Joel Robbins.


[. . .]


The relatives contacted attorneys and got a temporary restraining order.

Judge Carey Snyder Hyatt of Maricopa County Superior Court ordered that the family post a $20,000 bond against expenses incurred by the hospital in the delay.


Robbins said it will be posted by the Arizona Trial Lawyers Association.


Nora Montoya, consul general for Honduras in Arizona, said that Honduran groups here and in Los Angeles and Washington are raising money for her medical care.


Robbins is hopeful that a compromise can be reached to find long-term medical care for Iscoa in Arizona, and he and his associates are talking with other health-care organizations.


[. . .]


Mitchel, who has lived with Iscoa for four years but is not married to her, wondered how they could send her to another country against their wishes.


Hospital representatives were not sure if such transfers had been successfully challenged in court, despite the frequency with which they are carried out. It is the federal government that ordinarily determines who must leave the country.


Fernando Gaxiola, a criminal-defense and immigration attorney in Tucson, said that he has twice thwarted such transfers by calling police and Mexican authorities and reported the transfers as kidnappings.

You know, the question really does seem like a no-brainer. In what rational world does a hospital have the right to send a patient to another country against her wishes? I know that on a day-to-day basis, our shitty health care system seems to have as much if not more direct power over our lives than the government does. But despite the common perception, they are not all-powerful. They are not the government. And they do not have the right to deport anyone, let alone a woman who is in the country legally and in grave medical condition. Gaxiola was entirely right to report previous “transfers” to authorities as kidnappings. And pretty damn smart to have done so.


Furthermore, knowingly and forcibly transferring a patient with kidney failure to a facility that does not have a dialysis unit is nothing short of violence. Plain and simple. Regardless of how we tend to behave, being a citizen of any nation other than the United States does not revoke your status as a human being. This is both racist and classist. This is flat out wrong.


A fund to help pay for Sonia del Cid Iscoa’s medical care has been set up through Wells Fargo Bank. Please help disseminate this information.


Helping Iscoa’s loved ones to pay for her medical care will not solve the bigger problem or help those who come after her. That is why the legal action is absolutely necessary. But we can help one woman receive the care she needs to live and to stay with her family, and loudly voice our opinion that this is in no way acceptable.


Thank you to Jenny for sending me the link.

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Posted by: debmcd on May 19, 2008 4:04 PM   
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This country is becoming filled with totally intolerant people. This woman is here legally and what right does a hospital have to get a person deported just because she has inadequate health coverage? Isn't that the government's job? What is wrong in this country? What would happen if this woman was born here? Would they dump her in the nearest alley? This is the kind of crap that happens when people are constently just looking to the bottom line. Except for a hospital looking only at the bottom line makes them look just a bit mercenary. This is also the kind of crap that happens when people can't get adequate health insurance. Instead of looking for ways to get rid of the bodies, hospitals should be working for patient's rights. It can only be a good thing for the hospital to be on the right side of this fight. And by right, I mean morally right.

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» RE: Deb Posted by: rinthy
What is Truly Sickening
Posted by: JSquercia on May 19, 2008 4:06 PM   
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What is truly sickening is that from the name of the hospital it is a Christian Hospital . Must have missed that story about the Good Samaritan .

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» RE: What is Truly Sickening Posted by: chuckjs
It's not about immigration status
Posted by: notinKansas on May 19, 2008 8:40 PM   
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Hospitals go after everybody for payment. US citizenship is no protection. We're all victims of the failure of the healthcare system in this country.

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a disturbing thing about this is....
Posted by: wagadog on May 19, 2008 8:46 PM   
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(among the most obvious ones)

...that this is, in all likelihood, the routine way these hospitals have been dealing with brown-skinned people for years, and that this is a "happy" version of the usual story, in that at least there are people sticking up for this poor woman.

An investigative journalist needs to find out why it is these hospital administrators thought it was such a routine matter to just send her back to wherever...

How much this has been happening?

How long has this been going on.

Please.

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» RE: how many Posted by: katz22br
Free Market Health Care
Posted by: rosemutt on May 20, 2008 2:32 AM   
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Yep, this is what free market health care looks like. When are the Americans who are against universal health care going to realize this? They seem surprised to learn that in every free market, there are winners and there are losers. When we base our health care system on the free market, those who cannot afford to pay are the losers. If God-fearing free market American capitalists truly believe in this kind of health care system, then it follows that they should also believe that hospitals, in the interest of their shareholders, should be legally allowed to turn away people who cannot pay and refuse them care. Those who cannot afford to pay should seek charity or die. That's a true free market.

But who in their right mind would want to allow corporations to treat our health, our lives, as a commodity? Oh yeah, I forgot, the crazy, out of its mind Bush Cheney McCain Halliburton KBR Militiary Industrial War loving Chickenhawk Dickensenian Tax breaks for the rich Fascist Republican party monster!

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» RE: Free Market Health Care Posted by: chuckjs
» RE: Free Market Health Care Posted by: rosemutt
Status as a human being???
Posted by: katz22br on May 20, 2008 3:16 AM   
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"Regardless of how we tend to behave, being a citizen of any nation other than the United States does not revoke your status as a human being."

Sadly, it apparently does - at least that's what's reflected by the American mainstream media, and that's probably deeply seated into the minds of whoever listens to them.

As a foreigner who lived in U.S. for almost seven years (H1B visa), I was downright shocked by the way some tragic events were/are usually reported in U.S.

Take 9/11, for an example: no matter how many PEOPLE died, they would always - and only - hammer in the "loss of American lives" thing, as if the other victims didn't count or exist at all. As the majority of PEOPLE all around the world, I was absolutely horrified and saddened by those events, but after the hundredth mention of "American lives" in less than 24 hours, my head was about to explode. There were PEOPLE from different parts of the world in those buildings and in the planes! Some of them from Brazil, like me, but one wouldn't know by watching any American channel. All that mattered was the "loss of American lives". Heck, I went out and stood in line for over an hour to donate blood to the Red Cross, as they were asking people to do all over the country... just to have this nurse smile at me and say "How American of you to do that!" I know she meant it as a compliment, but I was deeply offended. I was not trying to be American, I was just helping a fellow HUMAN BEING. But, since I was doing something good, that almost made me a person, an American. Wow...

Another example? The tsunami. Same thing: interviews with relatives about the poor American tourists caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, no more than a fleeting glance at the piles of brown dead PEOPLE. An exception here: the cute, extremely blonde European little boy saved by some other guest in the hotel. Was he brown, we wouldn't ever know his story...

And then, there is the ultimate example, the Iraq war. Over four thousand American lives lost. A tragedy, no doubt. As for those ragheads, sand-niggers, hadjis or whatever it is the dehumanizing epithet in use... nah, the U.S. military doesn't do body counts.

Sad. Really freaking sad.

k

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» RE: Status as a human being??? Posted by: andrushka
» you make good points K Posted by: bookie
The little fat piggy hospital CEO
Posted by: backyardbbq on May 20, 2008 6:21 AM   
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I wonder how much the little fat piggy CEO that operates St. Joseph’s Hospital and Medical Center make a year? Does anybody have his or her name and home phone number?

This is just another reason for single payer health care. It’s time to put these greedy nut jobs out of business and get back to providing health care to everyone. Health care is a right, not a privilege.

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Most white American's are not Self Centered.
Posted by: peacekeepertwo on May 20, 2008 6:52 AM   
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Do not judge us by our media. We have seen the dark side of Capitolism, in these last 7 plus years. This side of capitalism has existed for Thirty years or more,But our leaders have managed to hide it from us. Now thank's to the Internet and an Ignorent President, its out there for all To see. Now we know, so let the Politicians know this must Change.

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» you couldn't prove it by me Posted by: e rice
Mainstream Media is not for the people
Posted by: tribalgecko on May 20, 2008 8:40 AM   
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Isn't mainstream media run by a handful, like 5 corporations? Which are controlled by the neocon right wing (or is it the other way around)? So why would the general population ever see anything except what the right wing propaganda machine wants them to see and hear?

Here in Ohio, we are one of the states selected to study different healthcare models. I wrote to Gov. Strickland (along with alot of other people) begging for him to include a single payer plan in the study. He (figuratively speaking) wrote back stating there was not enough support among the population of Ohio to include single payer model in the study. I would LOVE to know who he is referring to, because as a nurse, I come across a lot of patients and doctors that want some kind of single payer plan implimented. I don't think I have met one person who isn't paying out of pocket for either all or some portion of their healthcare and most can't afford in anymore. Healthcare is a right, not some luxury only for the wealthy.

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Typical
Posted by: QQOblivion on May 20, 2008 9:23 AM   
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This kind of behavior is typical for hospitals these days, it seems. For instance, there are those cases of disabled homeless people being literally dumped on skid-row. (In at least one case the homeless man, a paraplegic, was dumped without a wheel chair while wearing only a soiled hospital gown. I think I read that the man still had tubes coming out of his body as he crawled on the ground.)
And then there is that case of the hospital refusing to give a teenage girl a transplant while the hospital haggled with the insurance company. (The insurance company finally gave in, but it was too late. The girl died.)

And then there are the thousands and thousands of cases like these we don't hear about that occur in America all the time.

Money is all that REALLY matters to the medical industry. If you don't have it, you can LITERALLY just die.

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Not just to Immigrants
Posted by: lavonneann on May 20, 2008 12:07 PM   
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Hospitals do this same thing to American citizens. This is a reason we need Universal Health Care. This is not just happening because she is an immigrant

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The Hillary
Posted by: venkat on May 20, 2008 10:40 PM   
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Clinton takes Indiana by a ‘razor’ and Obama wins North Carolina by a huge margin. Nevertheless, Kentucky, Montana and West Virginia are still to come.

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If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama

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