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Pelosi to Go With Not-So-Robust Public Option

Posted by John Nichols, The Nation at 10:35 PM on October 28, 2009.


"Nancy Pelosi has decided to propose a government-run insurance plan that would negotiate rates with doctors and hospitals, rather than using prices set by the government."

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The public option was always a compromise for serious supporters of health-care reform, who -- like Barack Obama when he was running for the Senate in 2003 -- knew that a single-payer "Medicare for All" system was what America needed to provide health care to everyone while controlling costs.

But, in the reform legislation that will be debuted Thursday by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the compromise will be even more compromised.

According to The New York Times:

 

Under pressure from moderate-to-conservative members of the House Democratic caucus, Speaker Nancy Pelosi has decided to propose a government-run insurance plan that would negotiate rates with doctors and hospitals, rather than using prices set by the government, aides said Wednesday.

Ms. Pelosi said the public plan, which she prefers to call a "consumer option," would compete with private insurers. But the speaker was apparently unable to muster the votes needed for the "robust" liberal version of a public plan, which she has repeatedly said would save more money for consumers and the government.

Translation: The "public option" Pelosi and her team will not make payments based on Medicare rates. It will, instead, be forced to negotiate rates with doctors and hospitals, as private insurers do. That weakens the flexibility and muscle of the public option.

Pelosi's plan also drops a number of provisions that had been advanced at the committee level to promote consideration of "Medicare for All" models and to allow states to experiment with single-payer plans.

 

Progressives were disappointed, to say the least, as they were counting on the House to advance a strong alternative to the Senate Democratic leadership's very weak public option proposal -- which would allow states to opt out of the plan.

Congressional Progressive Caucus co-chair Lynn Woolsey, D-California, said she and her allies would continue to battle to muscle-up the public option.

"It's not even the fourth quarter,'' said Woolsey, who noted the public option had only recently been dismissed as dead by many pundits. "We will be insisting on (the option) being as strong as it possibly can be.''

Woolsey and other progressive Democrats are set to meet with President Obama Thursday.

"He needs to hear from us that he needs to support the public option,'' Woolsey told the Los Angeles Times. "He's not saying it loud enough. We want to make sure he lets the Senate know he wants a public option in the bill.'

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John Nichols writes about politics for The Nation magazine as its Washington correspondent.


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Will the House Progressives Cave In Under Pressure?
Posted by: Earthian on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 PM   
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We'll find out, won't we?

Raul, Lynn and company promised they would not accept anything less than a robust public option, available to anyone, tied to Medicare rates.

See the CPC website:

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/

If CPC members cave in and accept a less-than-robust public option, after ALREADY compromising on Medicare for All, we should withdraw our support from them. We should help them out of office in primaries. And we should call them what they would be if they cave: non-progressive, corporate cowards.

If they DON'T cave and refuse to vote for a weakened public option, they will be heroes, especially if they can get more than 38, for that would prevent the necessary 218 votes, and would stop a weak, insurance-industry handout health insurance bill from passing. And that would be good.

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Will the House Progressives Cave In Under Pressure?
Posted by: Earthian on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 PM   
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We'll find out, won't we?

Raul, Lynn and company promised they would not accept anything less than a robust public option, available to anyone, tied to Medicare rates.

See the CPC website:

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/

If CPC members cave in and accept a less-than-robust public option, after ALREADY compromising on Medicare for All, we should withdraw our support from them. We should help them out of office in primaries. And we should call them what they would be if they cave: non-progressive, corporate cowards.

If they DON'T cave and refuse to vote for a weakened public option, they will be heroes, especially if they can get more than 38, for that would prevent the necessary 218 votes, and would stop a weak, insurance-industry handout health insurance bill from passing. And that would be good.

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This whole thing is just a SCAM!
Posted by: weslen1 on Oct 28, 2009 11:58 PM   
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With this in the bill, it hasn't got a CHANCE of passing and without the real thing, fully funded public option with NO concessions to insurance companies as to the amount of competition, and without fully paying doctors instead of protecting insurance profits, it's a giant waste of time AND a sell out. NOT TO MENTION a gigantic TAX on those who can LEAST AFFORD IT rather than repeal the lucrative tax CUTS for the richest 1 percent.

Section 227 gives them an OUT and a bill that is DEAD ON ARRIVAL!
It is the sense of the House of Representatives that Members who vote in favor of the establishment of a public, Federal Government run health insurance option, and senior members of the President’s administration are urged to forgo their right to participate in Federal Health Benefits Program and agree to enroll under the public option.

A built in excuse to vote NO! How many does anyone think will opt out of the sweetheart deal they have now, including the fully equipped "clinic" 2 doors away from the floor of the Senate or House whenever they are in session with access to every specialist available from pcp to cardiologist to gastroenterologist to MASSAGE THERAPIST.

And anyone who MIGHT vote YES and then NOT switch to the "public option" would be harassed on tv, radio and in public DAILY through the next election by the THUGS who aren't going to vote for ANYTHING.

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Who is not surprised?
Posted by: sawdust on Oct 29, 2009 4:44 AM   
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Last week we were subjected to days of blissful media and pundit optimism about health care about to be finally achieved, saved, rescued, etc. We are silly and naive.

By this announcement, it is clear that we are as deer in the headlights, about to be run down by Nancy Pelosi's car in the dead of night. Harry Reid's ambulance will come pick up our body for cremation in the morning.

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Where we goin' Nancy?
Posted by: weightman on Oct 29, 2009 5:01 AM   
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Is that the Garden Path I see?

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WE ARE SCREWED
Posted by: Hiroak on Oct 29, 2009 7:00 AM   
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I used all caps because I am shouting.
All you need is cash
All you need is cash
All you need is cash....cash
cash is all you need.

Life and politics in Merka is so simple we are never going to have meaningful health care reform. So just give up and smoke a doobie.

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Can we PLEASE
Posted by: JSquercia on Oct 29, 2009 7:01 AM   
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Can we please STOP referring to the opponents of a Public Option as Moderates . When you are in the clutches of the Insurance Industry (that means you Lieberman and Baucus) and see fit to IGNORE the 60 to 70 percent who want a Public Option you NOT a MODERATE .
Even the CBO projects a Public Option as saving Money .

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The bill is a SCAM!
Posted by: weslen1 on Oct 29, 2009 9:13 AM   
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There will be very few yes votes unless NONE have read the bill.
Section 227 gives them an OUT and a bill that is DEAD ON ARRIVAL!

It is the sense of the House of Representatives that Members who vote in favor of the establishment of a public, Federal Government run health insurance option, and senior members of the President’s administration are urged to forgo their right to participate in Federal Health Benefits Program and agree to enroll under the public option.

A built in excuse to vote NO! Anyone who votes YES and then does NOT give up the sweetheart plan they've already got will become targets of the Republithug attack machines.
We will be bombarded 24/7 on Fox Noise and by Republithugs in congress spouting off their talking points of Health Care being Death Care and how "wonderful" the TRUE Death Care we have now is.

Actually we can't even BURY the dead. Bodies are piling up all across the country because local governments don't have the MONEY to bury them.

Now get ready for the next round of insults. Obama is about to "Reign In Entitlements". He will start with the ONLY campaign promise he will keep. That is the Republithug meme of "fixing" Social Security. Even with the COLA eliminated, the cost is "unsustainable". That's because the ONLY things this country can afford to pay for are HOLY WARS, BOMBS, helping Israel MURDER it's neighbors, crooked, murderous contractors, shoddy uninhabitable $750MILLION DOLLAR MANSIONS IN IRAQ, sending American Soldiers to the slaughter in hopes that American BIG OIL can confiscate Iraqi and Iranian OIL, 7000 dead soldiers and counting, the biggest, baddest, most deadly fighting machines and bombers, luxury jets for Congress foreign travel and comfort, NASA.s newest toys and BOMBING THE MOON!

Maybe some day they MIGHT find a few crumbs for THE PEOPLE, but not with the current crop. And many of us, including them, will be gone long before that ever has a chance of happening.

We are able to come up with unlimited funds OVER NIGHT for Wall Street Leeches and KILLING. But HEALING, like impeachment of torture and other war crimes and thousands of lies and manufactured "intelligence", is OFF THE TABLE!

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Where's the outrage?
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Oct 29, 2009 11:10 AM   
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Nowadays, politicians represent their corporate sponsors and the public be damned. They depend on getting our votes by claiming that the other party is worse than they are. The sad thing is that it works because whichever party's in power serves more or less the same corporate contributers.

The time to get control of the politicians is now. We can't wait for another 1930's style depression to wake up the people. We need action now.

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Solution to Government Run Insurance
Posted by: WeimMom on Oct 29, 2009 11:38 AM   
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All of those that "want" the Government to decide your health care, move to Canada or France!

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The solution to...
Posted by: dadanbetty on Oct 30, 2009 5:31 AM   
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legit and REAL single payer medicare like health care reform is actually simple.

All congress people who have prostituted themselves out to big pharma, med health insurance, etc., just need to give back all of the money they have received over the years. This would allow them to legislate and vote with conscience. See how easy that is. Problem solved!

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Cluck, cluck, cluck...
Posted by: frank69 on Nov 2, 2009 5:35 PM   
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You Democrats are chicken crap assholes! I have voted Democratic since JFK. I will never vote Democratic again if you Democrats do not pass a Robust Public Option.
A pox on you wimps!
I will vote Green, or Peace and Freedom, or not vote at all!
The choice is yours Democrats. If you cluck like chickens, and look like chickens, well... chances are, you are chickens!

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