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Is Joe Lieberman Bluffing, or Would He Really Torpedo Health-Care Reform?

Posted by Joshua Holland, AlterNet at 10:19 AM on October 28, 2009.


That's the question people are discussing today.
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OK, the Dems had a choice of strategies to get around an inevitable GOP-led filibuster of any health-care bill with a public option.

The bill they have in the House has a public option. They could have gotten a really watered-down bill without the measure through the Senate, used the popular momentum for a public choice to add it during the the reconciliation process (in which the House and Senate bills are combined) and then done a full-court press to pass the final product. 

Most Congressional observers doubt that the handful of cantankerous Democrats in the Senate who might join a filibuster of the Senate bill the first time around would have the nerve to block the legislation if it came back from the reconciliation process with some compromise public plan. Which would have left the insurance caucus Dems -- Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Evan Bayh, Blanche Lincoln and other sell-outs -- out of the limelight.

But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid promised to deliver a bill with some form of public insurance option. That moves the process along significantly and, as The Hill reports, may help progressives in the House get a "robust" version of the scheme through the lower chamber, as the details of their bill get ironed out. (See Booman for more on the process stuff.)

But because Reid doesn't have the votes so far to bring his bill to a vote -- and may not even have enough to begin debate on its provisions -- it's a high-risk move, in large part because it empowers so-called "moderate" Senate show-boats like Joe Lieberman, who promptly announced that he would likely join a Republican filibuster of the reform package. Whatever else he believes, Lieberman's all about the attention and he's got an abundance of it right now.

At this time, I'd like to just remind readers that when progressives backed Ned Lamont in the primary against Lieberman in 2006, Harry Reid came to his defense by swearing that Old Joe was "with us on everything but the war" in Iraq.

Anyway, sour grapes aside, the buzz today is about whether Lieberman can be moved. Is he being cantankerous now to puff up his own chest and make the liberals who had the chutzpah to beat him in a Democratic primary chafe but will eventually come around? Or is he really prepared to almost single-handedly blow up the whole year-long legislative process during its final act if he doesn't get his way?

A sampling of what some smart observers are saying about that question after the jump ...

Ezra Klein writes that he doesn't "take Joe Lieberman's threat to filibuster health-care reform more seriously" in part because the Senator left himself some room to maneuver by saying he'd block the bill "in it's current form."  

Additionally, Lieberman's argument against the public option is simply false. "I think a lot of people may think that the public option is free," he says. "It's not. It's going to cost the taxpayers and people who have health insurance now, and if it doesn't it's going to add terribly to the national debt." Soon enough, he'll be looking at Congressional Budget Office numbers saying the exact opposite...

Ezra Klein's a smart guy, but his rationalism is often inexplicable.

Plus, Lieberman has not, traditionally, been conservative on health-care issues. He's a moralist and a hawk, but not a particular critic of the safety net.

Mark Ambinder agrees with Klein:

Now -- the final bill, post-conference, is going to look a bit different from the reconciled Senate bill. Lieberman is giving himself the power to influence the final bill. I doubt that the Senate leadership is going to press him too hard right now, preferring to see if he can be accommodated in the final debate.

While Steve Benen appreciates the argument, he writes: "I wouldn't count on it."

I understand the argument... Lieberman gets to feel very important for the next several weeks by making this threat less than 24 hours after Harry Reid stated his intentions, but that doesn't necessarily mean he wants to be known forever as The Senator Who Killed Health Care Reform.

I find it very easy to believe, however, that Lieberman is capable of doing just that. He left himself some wiggle room, but not when it comes to the public option -- he's against it, no matter what, even with all of the compromises thrown in.

What's more, Lieberman didn't have to make the explicit threat to get the attention he craves -- he could have just as easily said he's keeping his options open, forcing Dems to cater to his demands. Instead, he went further, explicitly vowing to stop the Senate from even voting on the bill if some consumers in some states have a choice between public and private insurance plans.

What does Lieberman have to gain by following through on this threat? Well, if he plans to seek re-election in 2012, he'll need a lot of Republican support to have a chance. Running as the independent who single handedly prevented public-private competition would probably be a big selling point.

But numbers-cruncher extraordinaire Nate Silver is having a hard time figuring out what's in it for Lieberman in political terms:

 Would voting to filibuster the Democrats' health care bill (if it contains a decent public option) endear Lieberman to his constituents? No; Connecticutians favor the public option 64-31.

Would it make his path to re-election easier? No, because it would virtually assure that Lieberman faces a vigorous and well-funded challenge from a credible, capital-D Democrat, and polls show him losing such a match-up badly.

Would it buy him more power in the Senate? No, because Democrats would have every reason to strip him of his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee.

Is Lieberman's stance intended to placate the special interests in his state? Perhaps this is part of it -- there are a lot of insurance companies in Connecticut -- but Lieberman is generally not one of the more sold-out Senators, ranking 75th out of the 100-member chamber in the percentage of his fundraising that comes from corporate PACs.

Are there any particular compromises or concessions he wants in the bill? He hasn't stipulated any, at least not publicly.

Silver concludes that he's probably in it for the attention, but notes: "the reason this is a little scary for Democrats is because the usual things that serve to motivate a Congressman don't seem to motivate Joe Lieberman."

Which brings us to Steve M.'s analysis:

I think he might actually relish political martyrdom. He might crave it.

The conventional wisdom is that he was stung by the primary challenge in '06 and is still bitter about being rejected by voters and many big-name Democrats, but it's clear that he kinda dug it, too, right? And if he now loses his chairmanship? Or loses reelection in 2012? Well, he'll be politically dead -- but he'll be in paradise, the object of the attention of 72 virgins, with names like Coulter, Cheney, Hannity, O'Reilly....

A mediocrity like Lieberman? Getting that kind of adulation? Paradise indeed.

Seriously, what happens if this really is a death blow to his Senate career? He'll be an acclaimed "martyr" on the wingnut right, a man lauded over and over again for his "courage." He'll get a big book deal, probably from Rupert Murdoch's HarperCollins or Mary Matalin's Threshold imprint at Simon & Schuster -- and this time he'll have endless opportunities to flog the book in the right-wing media, and it'll do a hell of a lot better than his previous books. He'll be a regular commentator on Fox and for The Wall Street Journal -- maybe he'll even get his own show. A little bit of this, some corporate-board activity here, maybe some lobbying (his or his wife's) over there ... he'll be set for life. His ego will be set for life. So where's the harm in committing political suicide, if he draws blood on our side?

 

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Healthcare my arse!
Posted by: Lucidity on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 AM   
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Don't think for one minute this healthcare reform will benefit you and me. The only ones reaping the reward will be big business, like the pharmaceuticals and insurance companies. Like everything else, the working class will be handed the bill while the rich just keep getting richer.

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Liebermans goal.........
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM   
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"Or is he really prepared to almost single-handedly blow up the whole year-long legislative process during its final act if he doesn't get his way?"

Of course his goal is both attention & that he finally gets to give it to those "democrats" in Congress that didn't back him the last time! He already knows that he's lost the voters back home, so why not set himself up for his post-Congress life like others before him have done!? Stabbing not just his constituents but the American people in the back - that's his style!

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» RE: Liebermans goal......... Posted by: gnaw_bone
» RE: Liebermans goal......... Posted by: Doubtom43
» RE: Liebermans goal......... Posted by: MarshallB in Seattle
Joe Lieberman is a very sick dog
Posted by: tim_s_eb@yahoo.com on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM   
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By that i mean he is a US public enemy number one. We have to do all that we can to stop this idiot from further destroying our futures, he is a pro Israeli Zionist, pro war on any middle eastern nation and will probably die before he changes. I cannot believe who in the right mind would vote for this P.O.S. monster trying to pass for human being.

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» RE: Joe Lieberman is a very sick dog Posted by: morganlafay1
Adolf Hitler loves Joe Liebermann !
Posted by: Benn_Miller on Oct 28, 2009 12:15 PM   
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And the Democratic Party still clings to shit like this? This is another reason why I may never join the Republican Party but will most likely not return to the Democratic Party either.

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Since when does health care reform rest on the say-so of Joe Lieberman?
Posted by: Longdream on Oct 28, 2009 12:15 PM   
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Never mind.

Just remember that he's also a toadying coward who needs to be standing in the front of the line next to the powerful, no matter what he has to do to get there.

This maneuver goes no further than the attention it's getting right now. Nobody has spoken to or written about Lieberman in a little while, and he's just fixed that.

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Gotta Be Martyrdom ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 28, 2009 12:26 PM   
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His constituents and donors are left leaning and they will Not take this maneuvering lightly ...

Many are on the forefront of the battle for Health Care reform ... This is Joe's Death Wish ...

Good riddance to bad rubbish ...

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» About those "Virgins" Posted by: aussidawg
Give Senator Feingold the Chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee!
Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM   
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Do it today !

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Smoken Joe
Posted by: solrev on Oct 28, 2009 1:09 PM   
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Why are Reid and Obusha by default kissen smoken Joe’s buttocks? We tried to get a good healthcare bill but smoken Joe beat us up. Are they kissen Joe’s buttocks or covering their own?

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anyone who joins Republicans MUST BE STRIPPED OF POWER
Posted by: whealeydj on Oct 28, 2009 1:11 PM   
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on a filibuster of any sort. Feingold in charge of Homeland Security would be a vast improvement. Lieberman can caucus with Dems if he wants but he should lose chair of anything if he joins on a filibuster. unless he joined the 30 Republicans on side o Halliburton/KBR he doesnt qualify as public enemy #1 in my book only the 40th worst Senator.

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Nate Silver was the closest
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM   
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He is not bluffing, he is covering up his war crimes.

Nobody has been paying attention to him in light of the drug war. We discuss heroin coming in the ports, he jumps to block legislation that would inspect cargo.

There is a definite pattern to his actions if you look at it as obstruction of justice.

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Lieberman is..
Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 28, 2009 1:48 PM   
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... an attention seeker at best(As he proved once more yesterday)
- a self destructive martyr at worst.

He will martyr himself because he knows he cannot possibly stop the reform momentum

And if he and others filibuster the health reform bills we can ALL bear witness to the "ONGOING DAILY DEATH COUNT" as described aptly and graphically by one couragous Congressman- Rep Alan Grayson of Florida

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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Reform the discussion
Posted by: DHFabian on Oct 28, 2009 4:25 PM   
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Maybe, like our welfare "reform", we could simply rephrase the discussion of the health care system in a way that would be more palatable to the average American. Look at the positive side. Unaffordable health care is a powerful incentive to take personal responsibility for your own health and health care costs. Freedom means that you can reach for a hand-up, not a hand-out,and when you get a hand slammed upside your head instead, you'll understand that it's for your own good.

I don't think it would be hard to change the health care discussion. We already have the basic outline from the welfare discussion. Remember back in the late 1980's, when people started getting a bit concerned about homelessness? Our political leaders nipped that one in the bud! (Thank goodness, since Americans seem uniquely prone to suffering from "compassion fatigue.") By simply not talking about American poverty, it is no longer a problem. Refusing to talk about it is how we ended hunger, homeless and poverty in America (You know that's true because, well, we no longer talk about it).

Why not apply this strategy to health care? If we could end poverty in America by ending aid, imagine what we can achieve in the field of public health simply by ending health care (to those who can't afford it)!

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» WTF? sarcasm.....? Posted by: dogeatdog
Are you nuts?
Posted by: Griminy on Oct 28, 2009 10:40 PM   
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Observing this obscene partisan mess from Canada, all I can say is that any change in your system would be an improvement.I get the feeling that President (Small Change) Obama has had the "Ned Beatty/Network speech" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BVqIjKyJh0

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JOE LIEBERMAN IS A PIECE OF SHIT...
Posted by: Annapurna1 on Oct 29, 2009 1:09 AM   
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so what else is new??...

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Forced Health Insurance Unaffordable Even With Public Option
Posted by: Ross Wolf on Oct 29, 2009 1:51 AM   
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Obama Forced Health Insurance with or without a Public Option is unaffordable for many Americans. Sen. Reid and other Democrats have not examined the economic damage Forced Health Insurance Costs and Penalties will cause Americans. Millions of families that cannot afford to pay both forced health insurance and their home mortgage or rent, will have to pay Opt-Out penalties with money they could have spent on medical expenses. Citizens caught in this Catch 22 which there may be millions, will not be considered poor for federal assistance to help pay their health insurance premium. Middle class home buyers stabilize the housing market, but many will have to Opt-Out buying health insurance to remove that debt to qualify for a home mortgage. First the Obama government props up the housing market with billions of Taxpayer Dollars and home buyer incentives. Then forces expensive health insurance on home buyers, needed to support residential property values that secure trillions in lender mortgages.

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Lieberman is a Conservative EXTREMIST
Posted by: nobyjingo on Oct 29, 2009 2:26 AM   
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If Joe Lieberman wants to filibuster the Public Option, he should be allowed to filibuster the Public Option til he can no longer stand. Then, maybe there will be enough people to get him out of the Senate. Appeasing any Conservative EXTREMIST is only thought of as WEAKNESS.

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Connecticut is Insurance Corporation Central
Posted by: Christian Southern Liberal on Oct 29, 2009 4:14 AM   
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Who do you think has been buttering his bread all of these years (besides the zionists)?

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What a silly question!
Posted by: sawdust on Oct 29, 2009 5:37 AM   
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Of course he will! He will perform his corporate duty and sell out his amoral soul for the cash in the bank. He is predictable, consistent and can be depended upon to make certain the boat sinks all the way to the bottom. Anyone who thought other wise, even for a moment, is way too 420 friendly.

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I would think of
Posted by: dadanbetty on Oct 29, 2009 6:01 AM   
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Sen. Joe Lieberman as Israel's "top man" in the United States Congress. He is also of course, a total whore to special interest.

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Lieberman...
Posted by: pjnaltykins on Oct 29, 2009 6:35 AM   
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is a turncoat. He deliberately joined the Democratic party so he could be the wrench in Dem's plans. ASSHAT! He needs to lose his chairmanship...now.

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hardly anything new for this sick country
Posted by: IRIQUOIS227 on Oct 29, 2009 9:05 AM   
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Joe Lieberman is a rabid jew. Not a person who practices Judaism. The former sort are to be resisted by any and all possible means. Zionists like Hagee as well. The appeal only to the mentally lost, uneducated, unsophisticated. The sooner the toxic business of religion is gone from the earth, the sooner evolution of the human race to something other than filthy rats, becomes possible.

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Senator 'Lemmiwinks' has a foot in both camps...
Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 29, 2009 9:11 AM   
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...He's the fellow who helped work McCain's mouth during the last popularity contest in the US...He was O'bomb'em's mentor when that ass-puppet entered the Senate. His spawn were in both the Democratic and Republican camps. He's a War Pig...the Senator from Israel is also the Senator for the 'Hartford'...and the rest of the insurance industry--that is what being from a "blue" state means in America--being so f---ing stupid you don't realize that the color is irrelevant--they are all GOLF DELTA Corporatists who serve only the interests of the Oligarchy and give lip service to the people and their needs.

Senator Lemmiwinks is an "Independent"... that he is!--He is independent of any concern for Americans other than in their capacity to serve the interests of Wall Street and the City.

DOWN WITH THE BANKER REGIME! TROOPS HOME NOW!

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If Lieberman
Posted by: Archie1954 on Oct 29, 2009 9:39 AM   
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actually does torpedoe heathcare reform he will have to flee to Israel to save his miserable hide.

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Oh, piss on Liebermann
Posted by: westomoon on Oct 29, 2009 9:52 AM   
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I for one do not care what the Little Rabbi's motivations are. I just want him gone. Let him be a martyr, let him caucus with his beloved right-wing loons, but get him away from Fat City, the Homeland Security Committee. I can't erase the image of him embracing -- and feeding lines to -- John McCain, over and over and over.

Democracy for America is collecting signatures (and comments) for an "open letter" to the Senate Dem Caucus, asking for filibuster supporters to be stripped of their Dem patronage positions. I found it very soothing to let off a little steam there.

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Let Them Filibuster
Posted by: Outspokengrandmother on Oct 29, 2009 11:28 AM   
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Americans (even Senators) don't know what a filibuster REALLY means. It's a word, a threat, something that hasn't been done since when? Let the American people see the Republicans bring the country to its knees for an option that 72% of the people want. I think it's the last time we'll hear that threat for generations. It is definitely time to let the Republicans put their mouths where there money is. A filibuster on C-SPAN would be marvelous!

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Typical
Posted by: willymack on Oct 29, 2009 11:53 AM   
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Turncoat, traitor, and all around scumbag, leiberman is TYPICAL of the dirt we have the bad luck to be looking after our best interests in Congress and the Senate.
He's just a bit more up front with his betrayal of our trust than most of the others.

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Why no outrage in 2000?
Posted by: james_allen on Oct 29, 2009 12:44 PM   
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Had Gore-Lieberman won in 2000, Lieberman's Senate seat would have gone to a Republican (even though it was a Democrat "lock") and this would have given Republicans Senate control 51-49. That this was likely was no secret (Lieberman could not serve as both V.P and Senator, Connecticut had Republican Governor, the Senate was going to be very close.)

Obviously a Gore Administration would prefer an extra Democrat Senator; why then did Lieberman not withdraw from the Senate race? Obviously it was because his job was more important to him than the Democrat success he promised to espouse.

I was flabbergasted by this!! Not that Leiberman was an it's-all-about-me asshole that would be happy to see a Gore Administration fail, but that this selfishness passed almost completely unnoticed! No one thought it odd that this man put his own selfish interests ahead of the country; no one thought it odd that Gore and other Democrats accepted this behavior.

But it did stun and sadden me: it proved that even among Democrats, politics is a selfish game for personal power, and any pretense that they try to serve the country is only pompous prattle.

James

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Lieberman is a motive-less wonder...
Posted by: LightningJoe on Oct 29, 2009 3:45 PM   
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"Soon enough, [Lieberman will] be looking at Congressional Budget Office numbers saying the exact opposite, [that the public option will actually save money in the budget].."

But Holy Joe won't change his mind, except to save his skin, or maybe his Chairmanship. He's too steeped in "I'm right, just because I think I am," to be swayed by any mortal power except the threat of a loss of his own power. Joe is the penultimate expression of Washington Ego. He'll betray the "friends" who put him where he is, in order to toady to the insurance company lobbyists, who (they and he think) can KEEP him where he is.

And if those two portrayals seem contradictory, they are not, because Joe sees his support from lobbyists as what keeps him in power.

Another money connection, and what that money bought...

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Leiberman!
Posted by: ronjula on Oct 29, 2009 4:06 PM   
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He's such a loser.

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