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Dems' Godly God-Fest Ends with Prayer by Former Christian Coalition Leader

Posted by Joshua Holland, AlterNet at 4:17 PM on August 29, 2008.


A leader among the "New Evangelicals."

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Well, it was all very holy at the Dem convention this year -- more like a Pentacostal revival than a gathering of supposedly religion-hating liberals (Pentacostals rock, by the way. I went to a big Pentacostal mega-church in Florida's panhandle -- essentially Mississippi -- a few years ago, and they had a rockin’ band that was just grooving in a big way. Kids were picking each other up, there was tons of sex in the air, as well as free child-care and all that -- it reminded me of some hipster club, except, you know, for the speaking in tongues and flopping around on the floor and whatnot).

BeliefNet's Steve Waldman wrote approvingly about this year’s religiosity on the WSJ’s blog:

At the last convention, people of faith were treated as a worthwhile little interest group, roughly on the same level as mohair farmers.

What a difference four years make. By my count, there are at least nine different faith-related events. The week opened with an Interfaith religious service ... Events were held by the Faith Caucus, the Network for Spiritual Progressives, the National Jewish Democratic Council, and the American Muslim Democratic Caucus.

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Benedictions and invocations have been performed not only by liberal clergy but also by people like Donald Miller, a popular Christian author, who closed his prayer, "I make this request in the name of Jesus Christ."

So there was a lot of God Bless this and that, although, interestingly, nobody asked God to damn America. And there were lots of "faith leaders" in attendance. Contrary to popular belief, I have no qualms with any of this, even if I question to what degree it might be effective.

I did want to draw attention to one leader in particular -- the man who followed Obama, offering the prayer that closed the convention. ‘Twas none other than Joel Hunter, mega-church pastor and, briefly, head of the rightwing Christian Coalition. He headed the group for about five minutes, until he said that maybe the (white) evangelical Christian movement might want to expand beyond Leviticus 18:22 and talk about environmental conservation, social justice, fighting poverty -- you know, the stuff Jesus would have cared about if he were alive today and all issues about which the GOP regularly sides with ... Satan! That brought a quick end to that gig (they called his departure a "resignation").

Anyway, his presence at the Dems' confab was noteworthy as he represents a new wave of more ... moderate, pluralistic preachers within the religious right. Frances FitzGerald, writing in The New Yorker, described Hunter as a leader of this emerging movement-within -a-movement:

Dr. Joel C. Hunter, the senior pastor of Northland church in Orlando, Florida, who every week preaches to ten thousand people in his church and through the Internet, is one of the new leaders. Long active in community affairs, he has become an activist on the national level. He has lobbied Congress for legislation to curb global warming, pressed for comprehensive immigration reform, and denounced the virulent anti-immigrant rhetoric of the Republican primaries. He has worked with a group of evangelicals and secular progressives to try to establish common ground on such polarizing issues as abortion and the role of religion in public life. "I think the way we have been dealing with differences in this country simply doesn't work," Hunter told me recently. He is on the board of the National Association of Evangelicals, and with his fellow-members he has condemned Bush Administration policies permitting torture and the inhumane treatment of detainees. He has also twice attended the U.S.-Islamic World Forum, an annual gathering of American and Muslim leaders in Qatar, sponsored by the Brookings Institution. After the first meeting, where Hunter discovered that even the American diplomats assumed that all evangelicals believed that Israel had a Biblical right to the Palestinian territories, he and eighty-three colleagues sent an open letter to President Bush, calling for a two-state solution and justice for both the Israelis and the Palestinians. The statement was "hardly revolutionary," Hunter said, with a grin, "but it was subversive," meaning subversive of the religious right.

In "The Future of Faith in American Politics," David P. Gushee, a professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University's school of theology, in Atlanta, notes that the movement's leaders are theological conservatives who share the concerns of the religious right about sex outside of heterosexual marriage, the preservation of the family, and abortion. However, many leaders, such as Hunter, oppose government coercion on issues of private morality, and all have what Gushee calls a "consistent pro-life agenda"--one that accords with Catholic social teachings on war, poverty, and human rights. Moreover, they lack the cultural attitudes descended from the fundamentalist resistance to modernist thought, such as a distrust of science, a rejection of institutional solutions to poverty, and the notion that evangelicals are the saving remnant of Christianity and the American tradition. Religious-right leaders have perpetuated these attitudes and done their best to see that evangelicals continue to regard themselves as an embattled subculture. The new leaders, however, embrace pluralism.

Over at the website of the Northland Church they're pitching Hunter's book, A New Kind of Conservative, thusly:

What if "conservative" did not just mean emphases on traditional morality, small government and lower taxes? What if conservative also meant doing the right thing in compassion issues like Jesus did: healing the sick, feeding the hungry, appreciating the "lilies" (God's creation), and freeing the oppressed?

What if believers were also enthusiastic for the furtherance of science and rigorous training in rational debate? What if conservatives were not only patriots but also valuable contributors as citizens of the world?

What if? Well, we'd live in a much better country and wouldn't be viewed as a bunch of backwards religious fanatics by much of the rest of the world. So of course I wish these "new evangelicals" the best of luck (I should note that there's nothing new here -- all of those same principles have long been espoused in black evangelical churches).

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Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.


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What if?
Posted by: Xynyx on Aug 29, 2008 3:43 PM   
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"What if believers were also enthusiastic for the furtherance of science and rigorous training in rational debate? What if conservatives were not only patriots but also valuable contributors as citizens of the world?"

We would live in a better country and probably wouldn't be viewed as a bunch of backwards religious fanatics by much of the rest of the world... and we might also get to experience a Renaissance of thought, wherein more and more people would come to realize that specific religions and morality ARE entirely cultural phenomena (sadly, not religion as a general concept... that seems to transcend cultural boundaries) and we might actually stand a chance of living in a peaceful world.

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What if?
Posted by: Lauren on Aug 29, 2008 3:44 PM   
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What if conservative also meant doing the right thing in compassion issues like Jesus did: healing the sick, feeding the hungry, appreciating the "lilies" (God's creation), and freeing the oppressed?

What if believers were also enthusiastic for the furtherance of science and rigorous training in rational debate? What if conservatives were not only patriots but also valuable contributors as citizens of the world?


What if I told you I thought these people were listening to me?

Would you stand up and walk out on me?
Lend me your ear and I'll sing you a song - I'll try not to sing out of key.

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» RE: What if? Posted by: Erin
As an Atheist
Posted by: SoCalLib on Aug 29, 2008 3:55 PM   
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This shit drives me crazy.
You want to believe in god? Fine. But don't force it on me. Especially in that type of setting.

Democrats, hell, Americans, are a thick mixture of culture and beliefs. No everyone believes in your god. Or any god, for that matter. But they still believe in your political platforms. So, why alienate them? Why offend them? Please stop with all of the "And may God bless America" crap.

The need for the separation of Church and State is an idea that should be taken seriously. We saw the devastation wrought upon the country when this administration paid more attention to their religious dogma than what was right for the people.

Stop. Please. Take a stand.

Tell the world that you believe in your god, but that it's a very personal and private matter, and should not be exploited for political gain.

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8 years of bush and you still believe in god?
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Aug 29, 2008 6:31 PM   
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in there was a god we wouldn't be in the shit. enough of the goody two shoes routine. solve poverty,crime, disease. arrest the traitor in the white house. then you can tell me god helped you do it and I might believe you.

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Refreshing, Actually
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Aug 29, 2008 9:20 PM   
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An evangelical pastor who not only believes in Jesus, but who actually believes Jesus! What a concept! The Sermon on the Mount actually counts for something, and morality is about more that what other people do with their genitals.

I'm not very religious, but I have nothing against people who are if their faith motivates them to make the world a better place and they don't force others to conform to their religious strictures.

We Democrats aren't against religion, but against the cynical misuse of religion to advance a militaristic, elitist, corrupt, coercive, fascist agenda.

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" the same principles have long been espoused in black evangelical churches"
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Aug 29, 2008 11:15 PM   
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Well, maybe there is more emphasis on economic justice in Black churches, because the parish consists of an underclass that appreciates this rhetoric more than those who fill the pews in white churches. However, Black churches are still extremely homophobic. It's only a marginal improvement.

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we will know that conservatives believe in small government when they do away with military spending
Posted by: Suzon on Aug 30, 2008 5:01 AM   
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Think about it. How much money would Jesus have budgeted for "defense"?

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Whatever happened to
Posted by: Erin on Aug 30, 2008 5:26 AM   
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SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!And if the Dems., the Repubs., or anyone else wants God to bless someone, how about GOD BLESS THE WHOLE WORLD; I hate to be the one to throw a monkey wrench in the gears here, but WE ARE NOT ALONE ON THIS PLANET, and everytime I hear someone say 'God bless America' I want to scream to the heavens and to God, Goddess, Allah, Buddha, Shiva, Angels, Spirits of the Light, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and all the Saints and Angels: God help us all!!!

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syed salamah ali mahdi
Posted by: salamah on Aug 30, 2008 6:02 AM   
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CRAZY AMERICANS!

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Not just black churches
Posted by: goeswithness on Aug 30, 2008 6:45 AM   
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Don't forget mainstream denominations, with blacks and whites, including the ELCA, which stands for EVANGELICAL Lutheran Church in America. Last I heard, the biggest charities in the country were Catholic Charities, followed by Lutheran Charities.

It isn't the "Evangelical," it's the "Rightwing" that's the problem. There are millions of justice-minded Christians who work every day for these causes. They tend to actually appreciate separation of church and state, so they don't work under a religious banner, but look at any worthy movement and for a great deal of those people involved, their motivation is religious.

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» RE: Not just black churches Posted by: Lauren
In Jesus' Name?
Posted by: Urstrly on Aug 30, 2008 7:02 AM   
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I helped host a party of 100 plus people to watch Obama's speech. The place was emptying out, when I noticed this guy on an overhead TV and I stood in my tracks while he prayed in his unbearably unctuous voice and the cameras panned people who had returned to their seats and were praying together. I'm thinking there must be some people who need this, that Obama's nomination is so overwhelming that they are awed and a little frightened. So what's the problem with praying for his safety and guidance?

But the guy interrupted his prayer to give instructions to the effect that everyone listening should end the prayer with the words they normally use (something I suspected he was clueless about). Then he shuts his eyes and speaks into the mike words that surely drowned out any others: In Jesus' name we pray.

There may be people who think this was appropriate, but to my thinking, it cheapened every thing that went before it. If you're atheist or Buddhist or Hindu or Muslim or Jewish or, like me, Unitarian Universalist, it was a slap in the face, not a real attempt at ecumenism. Surely after the last eight years, that kind of Christianity doesn't need a commercial, especially in the Democratic party. What's wrong with A-men, so be it?

"Don't worry," said someone who heard me scream, "no one's listening. They're all going home."

I hope.

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wwjd?
Posted by: ranchero42 on Aug 30, 2008 7:28 AM   
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jdfuswwnk! Tom Robbins wants to know where they hid the body, and so do I.

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American Idiot- American Hypocrite
Posted by: NoPCZone on Aug 30, 2008 11:46 AM   
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We (Americans) in general, like to think about ourselves as religious but largely conduct our lives as if we are not. Then, of course, are the yahoos that think Adam & Eve rode around on dinosaurs.

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Local Alaskan's response...
Posted by: JVG on Aug 30, 2008 5:39 PM   
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You must check out this link from an excellent Alaskan blogger.

http://mudflats.wordpress.com
/2008/08/29/local-reaction-to-the-palin-bombshell/

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Let's not forget
Posted by: Shey on Aug 30, 2008 8:16 PM   
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.... that this was the most diverse political convention in the history of this country. And the really important thing, that Obama and Biden believe in separation of church and state, a woman's right to make her own reproductive choices, and gay rights. Maybe not strong enough on the latter, in public anyhow. But strong enough to allow Al Gore to mention it in his speech.
Would you prefer the Republicans?

As a Wiccan/Buddhist, I don't believe there should be any litmus test for political office, based on religious/spiritual belief, or lack of same. As long as that belief in the separation of church and state is in place and enforced, everyone has the right to their own belief/non-belief.

Namaste and Blessed Be. Or not, if you prefer.

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We need to pray 6 times a day
Posted by: hankhawk on Aug 30, 2008 10:35 PM   
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Prayer, worship of Allah. Muslims must perform salah 5 times a day. Before Salah, Muslims prepare themselves by performing Wudu (Ablution) which involves cleaning the hands, face, arms, head and feet.
As Christians, we should do one prayer better
and pray 6 times a day to show the Muslims
that we're "better than them." Yeh!

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