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What Does Hillary Want?

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 7:03 AM on June 4, 2008.


Echoing the candidate's own question in her non-concession speech, what will it take for Clinton to formally exit the race?
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I was talking to some friends early last night, and they asked what I expected Hillary Clinton to do and say when she took the stage in NYC. At that point, it was already clear that Barack Obama had clinched the Democratic nomination, so it was really a matter of how Clinton would handle the end of a long, difficult process, and how Clinton would address coming this close to winning, before finishing just shy of her goal.

I was actually pretty confident that I knew exactly what Clinton would do. Just a few hours earlier, campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe, Clinton’s right hand man and enthusiastic surrogate, told a national television audience that once Obama reaches the magic number of 2,118 delegates, Clinton will “congratulate him and call him the nominee.” Well, Obama had reached and passed the threshold. The race was over. It was easy to imagine Clinton going out on a high note, reminding everyone of her class and dignity, and taking the initial steps to heal some wounds, rebuild some bridges, and bring like-minded allies back together.

But if Clinton has proved anything over the last 16 months of campaigning, it’s that she’s a fighter. And last night, the lights may have gone out on her presidential chances, but her drive to keep going anyway remains strong. Indeed, last night, Clinton’s remarks weren’t conciliatory, they were defiant.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton took the stage before supporters Tuesday night and finally asked the question that so many people had been posing: “What does Hillary want?”

She listed some policy goals and demanded respect for her supporters. But she did not really answer her own question, demurely suggesting instead that it was up to her backers to advise her by e-mail on what she should do next.

What the crowd gathered at Baruch College in Manhattan for her final primary night celebration wanted was clear, from those outside chanting “Denver, Denver,” urging her to go all the way to the party’s convention in August, to those inside interrupting her speech with shouts of “Yes, she will! Yes, she will!”

And while Mrs. Clinton reminisced about her campaign and talked of a need to unite the party, she did not concede, and indeed did not acknowledge that her rival, Senator Barack Obama, had passed the threshold of delegates needed to secure the nomination.

She personally posed the question: “What does Hillary want?” But once her speech was over, the answer to the inquiry was less than clear.


She, of course, literally answered the question…

“Well, I want what I have always fought for in this whole campaign. I want to end the war in Iraq. I want to turn this economy around. I want health care for every American. I want every child to live up to his or her God-given potential. And I want the nearly 18 million Americans who voted for me to be respected, to be heard and no longer to be invisible.”

…but that doesn’t offer any indications of what Clinton is actually prepared to do now that she’s lost the race for the nomination.

In this sense, we’re in the midst of a vaguely surreal campaign dynamic. For nearly a year and a half, the biggest hurdle between Obama and the nomination was Hillary Clinton. Now that the race is over and Obama’s the nominee, his next biggest challenge is still Hillary Clinton.

Indeed, for those of us expecting a graceful farewell speech, Clinton’s remarks were a bit of a curveball. It was almost as if news of Obama’s victory hadn’t reached them yet. McAuliffe introduced her as the “next president of the United States.” Clinton congratulated Obama, not for winning, but for running a great race. At one point she said, “No matters what happens in this race…” as if the race remains unresolved. Clinton added that she would be “consulting with supporters and party leaders, to determine how to move forward,” as if she was still pondering how to launch a comeback. Tom Petty’s “I Won’t Back Down” played as Clinton smiled and waved. The Clinton campaign sent an email to supporters referring to the campaign in the present tense.

As Dana Goldstein put it, “The more I think about it, the more it seems that Hillary’s entire speech was manufactured to rile up her supporters — instead of priming them to shift their allegiance to Obama. Yes, there’s a situation with Michigan and Florida. But is it really fair for Clinton to claim that her 18 million supporters nationwide have been made ‘invisible?’ Who’s supposed to be the bad guy here, scary Howard Dean? Clinton is offering more fighting rhetoric. But the fight should be over.”

Ezra added, “In the first episode of the BBC comedy Coupling, Steve decides he’s going to break up with his partner Jane. He steels up his courage, strides over to her, and makes his pitch. ‘I’m going to put this very simply. It’s over between us,’ he says. She looks at him quizzically. ‘You want us to split up?’ she asks. ‘Yes,’ replies Steve. ‘Yes I do.’ She looks at him sweetly. ‘I don’t accept.’ Tonight, the Democratic Party essentially told Clinton that it was over. Obama crossed the magic delegate threshold and captured, for all intents and purposes, the nomination. Clinton had run a remarkable race, and come inches from securing the nomination, but she had lost. And tonight, Clinton took the stage in New York, and said, in effect, ‘I don’t accept.’”

Dana Milbank said Clinton “graciously pretended to win.”

I suspect this is about two angles — retiring the campaign’s considerable debt and pushing for the VP slot. We’ll learn more about both soon enough.

Stepping back, though, Clinton must be severely disappointed, but no one, anywhere, can say she didn’t fight aggressively enough or work hard enough. She put everything she had on the line, and came extremely close to pulling it off. Every time Clinton would get knocked down, she’d get right up again, proving that her reputation for toughness and tenacity is well deserved.

The race just ended 12 hours ago, so it’s going to take some time to make good-faith efforts to restore some party unity. Once Clinton concedes — which, one assumes, should be fairly soon — I just hope both camps remember that respect is a two-way street. Obama sounded the right note last night, acknowledging Clinton’s exemplary record and steadfast spirit. Clinton may have chosen a different path last night, but I’m confident that she’ll sound a similar note. Any minute now.


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Hillary's Foremost Priority is Hillary
Posted by: Xynyx on Jun 4, 2008 7:27 AM   
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Don't expect any altruistic moves from her. She will do nothing from which she does not stand to gain something.

She may talk of party unity and all that other stuff, but what she really cares about is how many heartbeats away from the Presidency she can seat herself.

A friend of mine, intimately familiar with sociopaths and their behavior, is pretty certain she IS one. We definitely don't need such a person (like Dick Cheney) that close to the President.

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Hillary Clinton = Tracy Flick from Election
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jun 4, 2008 7:59 AM   
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Hillary is not a fighter, she is obsessed. Even after losing she won't concede, she is fighting to become the VP.

I for one wouldn't pick her for VP for fear of her having me assassinated so she could be come President.

Even in the more mundane you have to figure she won't be willing to follow the Obama's agenda as VP but will be following her own just like Cheney did under Bush.


You can also tell Barack is not interested in her as VP because at one of the later debates the mention of a 'dream ticket' was brought up and you could tell looking at his facial expressions and forced smiling when the camera was on him that he was not at all interested in it.


He will crunch the numbers and try to determine if he can win the election without her die hard supporters who would vote for McCain over him.

If he can she won't be VP.

If the numbers look tough he might risk the election and go with someone else or pick her if he feels he needs her to win.


But I would be seriously afraid of her having me assassinated if I was President and she was VP, she really is Tracy Flick from Election and is absolutely obsessed with being President.

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Hillary is not a fighter--
Posted by: nomomorons on Jun 4, 2008 8:30 AM   
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She's a sore-loser.

If she were simply a fighter, she might have fought against the votes to go to war, or she might have spoken out against NAFTA during Clinton I, or she might have kicked Bill's ass for his canoodling.

No, not a fighter; she's obsessed with this election and, if she can't win, she's going to try to make it impossible for her opponent to win.
She is totally immersed in the victimhood she created for herself by not fighting for the right things and at the right times. Had she fought then, she would have the nomination today!

She's a big cry-baby.

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She doen't know it's over.
Posted by: SteveO on Jun 4, 2008 9:10 AM   
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She's like those Japanese soldiers that came out of the south Pacific jungles in the 50s - they were still fighting WWII years after it ended because they hadn't gotten the news or (as in Hillary's case) didn't believe it was over.

Hillary will keep making "campaign" appearances for years talking about how she will be the next president of the United States.

The larger problem is that her loyal supporters may grant McSame the win this November.

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I Really Don't Care
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jun 4, 2008 9:43 AM   
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I am so thoroughly sick of the Clintons that I could vomit for 6 months. Having lived in Arkansas during part of my childhood/early adulthood, the Clintons and Clintonism have been afact of life since before I could vote and I am 46 years old.

She needs to slither back under whatever rock she lives under and begone.

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» MAYBE A REAL MAN Posted by: mindtrvlr
It shouldn't but it is....
Posted by: foreverhope on Jun 4, 2008 10:26 AM   
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...blowing me away she won't concede yet she is attempting to negotiate for VP. I keep wondering if this election can get any stranger. Hillary had her rally last night three floors underground, no cell phones or other communications. No one at the rally knew she had already officially lost the nomination. Terry McAullife still introduced her as the next president of the United States an HOUR after Obama picked up the final necessary delegates. So disrespectful it is really unbelievable, and sickening. No class whatsoever.

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I would not be suprised
Posted by: Rod on Jun 4, 2008 10:59 AM   
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if she has dug up or fabricated some peice of dirt on Obama to conveiently exposed before the convention. Then she can be queen, er president.

If this happens it is time for Edwards to stand up and be counted, or "I am not interested" Gore and save the day.

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She should run as an Independent!
Posted by: Ras3hilton on Jun 4, 2008 11:15 AM   
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She should run on a third party ticket. Why not? A little real democracy (ie more than two choices)would be very encouraging. She may split the Democratic party but it looks like the GOP might split too so it would be very good for what's left of our democracy.

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A new angle
Posted by: charemor1 on Jun 4, 2008 11:34 AM   
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Most of us do agree that Hillary is delusional, self centered, grasping, coniving, vicious, vindicative, etc., etc....but increasingly as I look and read about her supporters, I am beginning to think that it is really not about her. Many of her supporters simply want a woman in office and they don't give a damn if it is Hillary, Condi,Laura Bush or Teresa Heinz. They simply want a woman to prove that she is equal to a man.

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She's stalking the presidency
Posted by: fluffmuffinmom on Jun 4, 2008 12:59 PM   
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She is clearly showing signs of being a stalker: she won't take "no" for an answer and refuses to accept that it (the presidency) isn't hers.

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Cut the legs out from Under Her Power Play
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 4, 2008 3:48 PM   
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I so wished Obama and his advisors had already seen this Arrogant Power Play coming. She's been crying that she'll take it to th econvention- so take her word for it an dAnnounce your VP- should have done it last Night. My Hope is Sen Chuck HAGEL- has been against the War, Sick of the Neo Cons in Red, Has a Military Record and Years of experience in Gov't- could also shore Up not only NE, but KS and CO (plus make the racist a little more at ease in WV & KY).consider too what message that would send to ALL the Corrupt Corp Whores in Gov't & Industry- The Dynamic Duo. Now Would Not be DC AS USUAL!! Tlk about reaching Across Party Lines- perhaps that way we could finally rid our selves of the covert Operative who have inflitrated Both Our parties over the last 4 decades. Let Mac have Hillary- they work for the same LOGO's anyway!

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Money Honey $$$..If you want get along with me..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Jun 4, 2008 4:59 PM   
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I think what Hillary really wants is a big chunk of change to pay off her $20 million plus in campaign debt..

But I could be wrong..

No she's a women, it's money alright..!

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I'll tell you what she didn't want.
Posted by: Longdream on Jun 4, 2008 5:59 PM   
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To have seven of her most important supporters, including Charles Rangel and Charles Schumer hand her her own head this afternoon in a conference call, telling her that enough was enough, that they had to get on with things, that they were angry at her speech last night in which she was ungracious in her manner and in her actions, and that they were moving to Obama on Friday, and she had until then to catch up and concede.

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Remember Glenn Close in "Fatal Attraction"?
Posted by: realist on Jun 5, 2008 8:16 AM   
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"I'm not going to be IGNORED!"

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I'm praying
Posted by: StillStanding on Jun 5, 2008 8:57 AM   
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that Obama won't pick Hillary. If her supporters are so stupid and self-destructive that they'll vote for McCain, then fine. Who needs 'em? I think Obama can put together a broad coalition and that a lot of the currently whining Hillary supporters will realize that the implications of voting for McCain and ensuing a fascist strangehold on the courts would be pure folly.

There are plenty of excellent choices for VP - Hagel, Wes Clark, Sam Nunn, etc., who could bring a lot more to the ticket than Hillary could ever offer. I think Obama is far too savvy to fall for Hillary's strongarm tactics. He should send her packing back to the Senate.

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WHO CARES NOW.
Posted by: mindtrvlr on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM   
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SHE CAN JUST DISAPEAR

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THE SECRET MEETING
Posted by: Longdream on Jun 6, 2008 2:44 AM   
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Barack went to Hillary's house.

I just want to know if Barack wore a suit and tie and Hillary wore a pantsuit.

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