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Why Pat Buchanan or Anyone Else Has No Business Telling Black People "Be Grateful"

Posted by Amanda Marcotte, Pandagon at 12:38 PM on March 27, 2008.


Clearly it’s nonsense to suggest that black individual Americans are sort of faced with this existential choice—here or Africa?
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Now that the Rev. Wright thing has provided an even better excuse for racists to start saying in public what they usually keep in private, I knew it was just a matter of time before the “blacks should be grateful” argument came out. Being a white person from an especially racist part of the country means you can index some of these nonsense arguments, since you hear white people speak them behind closed doors so often. Not that I’ve actualized any value from being able to predict all the favorite nonsensical tropes that racists trot out, but if I can wrestle one benefit away, it’s this: I can safely say that it’s a lot like the anti-choice nonsense. The assholes making the arguments are irredeemable and should be written off. But it’s still somewhat of a benefit to engage their nonsense and show why it’s nonsense for the benefit of people listening who may be naive and can be rescued before they turn into irredeemable assholes.

I mention this, because I read the most audacious version of “they should be grateful” at Lawyers, Guns and Money, where they link this guy who says:

Far as I am concerned, many Blacks in the US ought to be thankful that no matter how their ancestors got here they are better off in the US than in some shiitehole in Africa, eating scarps of bread, swatting flies and living in mud huts using arrows and clubs to hunt their food.

Now, it’s easy to dismiss this, and in a saner world, such a blatant racist should be dismissed. It’s easy to say, “The fuck?” and “You know, Africa is an extremely diverse and complex continent that can’t be characterized so simply.” But if you look beyond the surface of this ignorant fuckwittery, you realize this is another version of “The poor aren’t poor because they have color TVs.”

Grass huts and other racist tropes aside, it’s undeniable that large parts of Africa are desperately poor and war-torn. What I think is useful to remind people, though, is that the poverty and warfare in Africa is not inevitable, because the continent is rich in natural resources that should, in a fair world, leave many nations in Africa quite wealthy with a high standard of living for everyone. That this is not true for a lot of people has everything to do with, you guessed it, the history of Western colonization of the continent. Hell, that’s not even a distant memory—South African apartheid ended within most our memories, and in a sense, it didn’t really end, because the whites that controlled the economy managed to sneak out with their economic interests intact instead of doing what was right and letting the wealth of South Africa be for South Africans. The last scene in There Will Be Blood—you know, with the milkshake?—really tells you the whole story of the West’s attitude towards Africa, an attitude that has been held back some, but not enough. The U.S.’s willingness to instigate warfare and subvert elections when the people elect leaders who will take measures to reclaim the nation’s wealth for the people (socialists!) doesn’t limit itself to Central and South America, you know. We’ve propped up our share of murderous, graft-happy African dictators in the past, with the paper thin justifications of “oh noes, communism!”

Clearly, it’s nonsense to suggest that black individual Americans are sort of faced with this existential choice—here or Africa?—which makes little real world sense, like suggesting that I would somehow individually exist if various ancestors hadn’t migrated from various European countries to mingle their genetic material in the Western Hemisphere. But I bring up the point that the same colonizing forces that brought slavery to the U.S. brought economic destruction to Africa to make the larger point that the word “gratitude” should get nowhere near this discussion.

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Amanda Marcotte co-writes the popular blog Pandagon.


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Posted by: mnascimento on Mar 27, 2008 2:19 PM   
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Pat Buchanan is running true to form, he has always spoken thusly.

There weren't enough voters who followed this tact, to make him a serious Presidential contender. He must be very envious of Obama's success, so far

The more serious, and insidious threat is the revival of soundbites from the Reverend Wright. I heard today on MSNBC, a soundbite referring to "Garlic nosed Italians" with the comment that it was aimed at Italian-Americans.

I happened to have listened to a ten minutes of that particular sermon online. It is the sermon where he says "Goddamn America" I researched the sermon because I am tired of being manipulated by soundbites.

Reverend Wright is actually castigating Empires over the centuries, and their dissolution under God's wrath, for sins against humanity. The Garlic nosed Italians in question were the Romans, who Wright believes were destroyed for their cruelty and warfare, God Damned in other words.
He is also warning that America may also be destroyed by God's Damnation. He actually rattled off a list of casualty empires, including Great Britain and Nazi Germany.

I am sixty four, and remember quite a few Presidential elections. I don't remember another, where a candidate was called upon to justify what his minister believed, or said.

Perhaps if Wright had said " I tremble for my Country when I reflect that God is just" we could move on to some of the really serious issues that concern us all.

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Wow
Posted by: Robba29 on Mar 27, 2008 2:23 PM   
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I wish I could use this post in my class--unfortunately I think some of my kids' parents would object. We just finished our unit on Africa. I have students do an in depth research project on the various African kingdoms, empires, and tribes from the medieval period to their end in colonization. I then have them analyze two arguments--the geography prevents their development argument (from Jared Diamond) and the colonial disruption argument. We discuss the stereotypes that people think of when they think of Africa and we discuss their previous paths of development, the impact of colonialism and the slave trade, and then the present situations in Kenya, Sudan, Liberia, and South Africa. I'm pleased to say that even a group of 7th graders can understand the impact of cultural theft and oppression on a people better than the racist assholes who have a voice in this country. Hopefully the next generation won't be as stupid.

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micajan
Posted by: Micajan on Mar 27, 2008 2:55 PM   
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Why are you surprised at this repugnant comment by Pat. After all Pat is a Catholic--are you not aware of the present Pope's comment to the affect: that the primitive tribes, world wide, ravaged by the Christian missionaries/soldiers are better off now because they found Christ and are in a better place! Better off dead because you found Christ.

It boggles my mind that adherents to Catholic Christianity allow their supposedly moral leaders to get away with such inhumanity.

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GOOD FREAKING GRIEF!
Posted by: Longdream on Mar 27, 2008 4:21 PM   
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This just takes the prize.

It's open season on black folks, no doubt about it. I don't know which I love best--the covert sort of racism that doesn't speak, just wears a person down, or the kind that dribbles out the mouths of inbred gas station attendants, pregnant white trash, dime-a-prayer preachers, and PATRICK J. BUCHANAN.

Whenever this man decides to share the contents of his mind, I'm absolutely astonished at the base vapidity of what comes out.

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janmar
Posted by: janmar on Mar 27, 2008 7:26 PM   
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I have never understood why the networks give this tired windbag any time on the tube. His opinions are as rancid as his mind and reflect the era when Father Coughlin spewed his inanities over the radio.

If the serial murderer was a Republican, Old Sadsack Buchanan would find a reason to explain and defend him.

If you think he's full of hot air, you should listen to his sister. Must run in the family.

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Too bad
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Mar 27, 2008 8:21 PM   
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this fuckstick's ancestors didn't starve to death during the potato famine.

jdfu!

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» RE: Too bad Posted by: Conchobhar
Condescension and "ignorance"
Posted by: parviz45 on Mar 28, 2008 4:11 AM   
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Wow! Epitomy of pristine condescension! And even regarding Africa...is he pretending ignorance of history. Would Africa be the mess it is in if she had not been raped by the West, especially US and UK?

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rev.
Posted by: revrmaury on Mar 28, 2008 5:17 AM   
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also 64 & Christian: a central tenant of the faith is forgiveness, taught in the face of overwhelming cruelty by Jesus. Humans, many Christians, have been responsible for inhumanity, none worse than the systematic murder of the Jews. The Africans who were enslaved and brought to the Americas were also treated inhumanly. Is there any place for forgiveness? For if not there will be no redemption, wh/ is a making whole and human again (the meaning, I think, of the Easter story). Even Pat B. should not be able to give "gratitude" a bad name. When you are in a rage, for example, it is often a place to build when you have something for which to be grateful. Shall we teach our children rage & villification? We live in a black, inner city neighborhood, & we see much that needs to change in public schools, violence, and we work with Africa to appreciate the needs and the treasures, but most fundamentally we are amazed that there is life and the chance to change, to grow, to tell the truth and be reconciled, thru forgiveness. We can drive wedges or build bridges, and the latter carry us to community.

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Puny-Minded Pundits
Posted by: QQOblivion on Mar 28, 2008 8:30 AM   
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Didn't Michael Medved not too long ago say that Afro-Americans should be grateful for SLAVERY!?

Let the pundit-class finally realize what many already know: Pat Buchanon and Michael Medved -- and didn't William Kristol recently spout this kind of garbage recently? -- are all a bunch of racists, and are not worthy in the slightest of making intelligent comment on ANY subject, let alone on the issue of race.
I know this is wishful thinking, but let them be shunned by the media.
Let America know that this kind of crap these puny-minded pundits spew is just that: crap!

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Shirl
Posted by: toots on Mar 28, 2008 8:39 AM   
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Thank God, he didin't get close to being our President,
His religion is his business, but I am not catolic and could never believe the way his sister or him believe on political issues.
If they appear on a program I am watching, I MUTE until they are off the screen

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» RE: Shirl Posted by: master09
gratitude
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Mar 28, 2008 10:30 AM   
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I am SO GRATEFUL that I was beat up raped and abused. Dang, it sure did my character some good!

Oppression does wonders for the soul so thank Jesus that the hate mongers put me in a cage for my own good! Wow, how did I get so lucky?

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White Guilt
Posted by: Ohjin on Mar 28, 2008 10:31 AM   
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As a white American;

The behavior and thoughts of Pat are so offensive that I must take time to apologize to people of color and intelligence everywhere and ask you to please believe that whites are NOT all this evil and filled with self hatred.

Pat's brand of racism gives me a case of present day white guilt, that won't seem to wash off, even with a Brillo pad.

And as a white American: If you don't believe me I completely understand, and I imagine that were the roles and history reversed, I would not believe you either.

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Typical
Posted by: lamac66 on Mar 28, 2008 4:20 PM   
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That is typical of Buchannan and his type with entitlement mentality.

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What If
Posted by: bc430 on Mar 28, 2008 8:54 PM   
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Pat Buchanan and Mr. and Mrs. Clinton were Black?

Maybe Geraldine Ferraro triggered a flashback to my success on my High School debate team.

Anyhow, think with me for a moment. Would Buchanan be employed anywhere earning the big bucks that he is paid to assure America's most racist that "all is well", and would The Clinton's be making an ass of America and the Democratic Party if they both were Black?

Further proof that America is a White racist nation - If GWB was a male Black former drunk school cheerleader and "C" student would he even be hired as the president's limo driver?

Line up for your government cheese Black Americans and be Grateful.

Should Cheney and Halliburton and Prince and Blackwater be Grateful?

Apologies to Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. and President Barack Hussein Obama.

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The Dark Princes of MSNBC
Posted by: foreverhope on Mar 29, 2008 4:02 PM   
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Wednesday and Thursday last week I went nuts and and was phoning msnbc MANY times a day. I finally had it with Pat and Joe fighting to protect Hellary.

It was just too much, this crazy primary, add to that Pat and Joe in the tank for the Clintons! Talk about Bizarro world! I was getting more and more angry with each show.

On Friday I woke up and called msnbc right away, told them I was getting ready to watch Pat and Joe AGAIN, on every show, hour after hour, all day every day. I mean I don't mind having her surrogates on but Pat and Joe! They ran as conservative repugs and they are fighting for Hellary as if she is part of their own families? Are they Super D's for Hellary? Every time I saw their grim faces and heard their angry voices I phoned MSNBC again.

ummmm.....I don't know if it might have helped but I actually didn't see them on a single msnbc program all day.

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All I know is that No President should have ever supported
Posted by: niliadis on Mar 30, 2008 3:06 PM   
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An Anti-American!! Black, White, purple, pink pokadot..The bottom line we can not put an Anti-American Supporter Like Obama. Great Article everone should read and pass on!
After a ll we have been through,’ he said. ‘Just to think we can’t walk down our own streets, how humiliating.’”

Isn’t that exactly what Obama’s grandmother was referring to? To equate her fears, similar to Jesse Jackson’s, with Wright’s anti-American, anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-Israel rantings is despicable coming from a grandson. In today’s vernacular, he threw her under the wheels of the bus to keep his presidential campaign rolling. For shame.

What is it that I and others expected Obama to do? A great leader with conscience and courage would have stood up and faced down anyone who engages in such conduct. I expect a president of the United States to have the strength of character to denounce and disown enemies of America — foreign and domestic — and yes, even his friends and confidants when they get seriously out of line.

What if a minister in a church attended primarily by white congregants or a rabbi in a synagogue attended primarily by Jews made comparable statements that were hostile to African-Americans? I have no doubt that the congregants would have immediately stood up and openly denounced the offending cleric.

Others would have criticized that cleric in private. Some would surely have ended their relationships with their congregation. Obama didn’t do any of these things. His recent condemnations of Wright’s hate-filled speech are, in my opinion, a case of too little, too late.

It is also disturbing to me that Obama’s wife, Michelle, during a speech in Wisconsin last month, said, “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”

Strange. This is a woman who has had a good life, with opportunities few whites or blacks have been given. When she entered Princeton and Harvard and later became a partner in a prestigious law firm, didn’t she feel proud to be an American?

When she and the senator bought their new home, was there no feeling of accomplishment and pride in being a U.S. citizen? When her husband was elected to the state legislature and subsequently to the United States Senate, didn’t she feel proud of her country?

Obama was asked if he thought his speech changed any minds. He replied he didn’t think so, and certainly not of those who weren’t already for him. A more important question is, whether his 20-year relationship with Wright has done lasting damage to his candidacy.

We will soon know.

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Read, decide, and Think-Don't drink the kool-aid
Posted by: niliadis on Mar 30, 2008 3:09 PM   
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Say no thank you to Obama's Kool-Aid: Great Article!
After a ll we have been through,’ he said. ‘Just to think we can’t walk down our own streets, how humiliating.’”

Isn’t that exactly what Obama’s grandmother was referring to? To equate her fears, similar to Jesse Jackson’s, with Wright’s anti-American, anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-Israel rantings is despicable coming from a grandson. In today’s vernacular, he threw her under the wheels of the bus to keep his presidential campaign rolling. For shame.

What is it that I and others expected Obama to do? A great leader with conscience and courage would have stood up and faced down anyone who engages in such conduct. I expect a president of the United States to have the strength of character to denounce and disown enemies of America — foreign and domestic — and yes, even his friends and confidants when they get seriously out of line.

What if a minister in a church attended primarily by white congregants or a rabbi in a synagogue attended primarily by Jews made comparable statements that were hostile to African-Americans? I have no doubt that the congregants would have immediately stood up and openly denounced the offending cleric.

Others would have criticized that cleric in private. Some would surely have ended their relationships with their congregation. Obama didn’t do any of these things. His recent condemnations of Wright’s hate-filled speech are, in my opinion, a case of too little, too late.

It is also disturbing to me that Obama’s wife, Michelle, during a speech in Wisconsin last month, said, “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”

Strange. This is a woman who has had a good life, with opportunities few whites or blacks have been given. When she entered Princeton and Harvard and later became a partner in a prestigious law firm, didn’t she feel proud to be an American?

When she and the senator bought their new home, was there no feeling of accomplishment and pride in being a U.S. citizen? When her husband was elected to the state legislature and subsequently to the United States Senate, didn’t she feel proud of her country?

Obama was asked if he thought his speech changed any minds. He replied he didn’t think so, and certainly not of those who weren’t already for him. A more important question is, whether his 20-year relationship with Wright has done lasting damage to his candidacy.

We will soon know.

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