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Obama Essentially Tied With Clinton Nationally, Brokered Convention Looms

Posted by Chris Bowers, Open Left at 12:29 PM on February 1, 2008.


It sucks and in many ways is truly baffling, but it seems to be the situation we face nonetheless.
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There can be no doubting Obama's momentum now:

Gallup Poll Daily tracking shows Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama as close as they have been since the polling program started at the beginning of 2008. Forty-four percent of Democratic voters nationwide support Clinton, while 41% support Obama, within the poll's three-point margin of error. The data suggest that Obama has gained slightly more -- at least initially -- from John Edwards' departure from the race. In the final tracking data including Edwards in all three days' interviewing (Jan. 27-29 data), Clinton had 42%, Obama 36%, and Edwards 12%. Since then, Clinton's support has increased two points and Obama's five. Tomorrow's release will be the first pure post-Edwards three-day rolling average.

In their post-Edwards polling, Gallup and Rasmussen now have nearly identical numbers, showing Clinton up by about 2% nationwide. In such a close campaign, it will become virtually impossible for one candidate to reach 2,025 entirely via pledged delegates, since there are only 3,253 pledged delegates. When only 2% separates the candidates nationwide, no candidate can possibly win over 60% of the pledged delegates. So, unless Clinton's early voting advantage will overwhelm Obama on Tuesday, it certainly looks like Super Delegates will decide who wins the Democratic nomination.

Long-term, right now I think the most likely scenario for the nomination is that Clinton and Obama remain pretty close in pledged delegates, but through early voting in February 5th states, super delegates, and arguments over Florida and Michigan, Clinton eventually cobbles together enough support to seal the nomination sometime in March. The best analogy might end up being the way Mondale, despite losing almost all of the final primaries to Hart, eventually sealed the nomination via Super Delegates in 1984. The party will be divided, and the Republican nominee will be strong. And so, despite having the most favorable national electoral outlook Democrats have seen in over thirty years, we will actually be significant underdogs in the presidential campaign.

It sucks and in many ways is truly baffling, but it seems to be the situation we face nonetheless. If we lose the presidential election, every single Democratic leader in the party committees and the Congress should resign. While the DNC is specifically tasked with the Presidential campaign, all of our leaders have contributed to the political environment where a screw-up of this magnitude is possible. Anything short of a Democratic trifecta in 2009, and the whole lot of them should step down.

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Chris Bowers was a full-time editor at MyDD from May 2004 until June 2007. Some of his projects have included the creation of the Liberal Blog Advertising Network, the first scientifically random poll of progressive netroots activists, the Use It Or Lose It campaign, the nation's most accurate forecast of Democratic house pickups in 2006, and the 2006 Googlebomb the Elections campaign.


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Could be Great for the republicans
Posted by: EncinoM on Feb 1, 2008 1:24 PM   
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A brokered convention with Clinton coming out on top would lead to all the new voters that Obama has brought to the table to stay at home come November. Not only would McCain likely become president the back lash coul dlead to a change in control of at least one of the houses of congress.

Obama on the other hand would bring out new voters in droves to the election in Novemeber.

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jeanruss
Posted by: jeanruss on Feb 1, 2008 2:01 PM   
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this election is suddenly very boring. It's not very interesting choosing between the candidates the military/industrial complex let us have. I'm sure we will get the WAR FOREVER GUY. Maybe then people will understand that we are not free and they should have supported John Edwards.

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Use foresight, Dem delegates!
Posted by: liberal_christian on Feb 1, 2008 9:25 PM   
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Senator Clinton has long been disliked by so many people for many reasons (some rational, others mostly irrational) that her chances of beating McCain in the general election are "iffy" at best. Senator Obama, on the other hand, is charismatic and will win over voters on all sides, especially young people and those who are tired of and disinterested in politics. He'll bring people to the polls who are disillusioned and otherwise wouldn't go. This primary may be close between Hillary and Barak, but DNC delegates need to use foresite and think about the outcome of the General Election. We can't afford another four years of Republican rule, even if it is John McCain. He will protect the interests of the oil companies in Iraq, the same as any Republican will.

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confused
Posted by: Zenobia on Feb 1, 2008 9:38 PM   
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I am confused as to why the party will be divided. I hear people around me, in the media, etc., expressing intent to support whichever candidate becomes the nominee. I hear most people, including myself, saying that the 2 candidates are so close in their positions that they do not have an overwhelming preference for one or the other. How many stories have we heard about people being so on-the-fence that they made their final decision by gut instinct IN the ballot booth? And we need the GOP out of there so badly that people will vote for Anyone But when the moment of Truth arrives.

I think we will be fine! Record numbers of Dems are coming out to vote in the primaries. A third fraudulent "win" by the GOP and there be revolution in the streets, now that the young and rebellious are mobilized. Though I feel very skeptical about the Obama craze, and I think most people who are under his spell are really voting for his speech writers, I DO credit him for THAT remarkable feat--mobilizing young voters.

Clinton and Obama are both far from perfect, but both are far better than what we've endured.

I have a feeling, too, that just enough angry Conservatives will cast write-in votes for Ron Paul as protest that the author may be missing a peripheral curve ball. Did anyone hear how loudly the GOP crowd cheered when Paul was the *only* Republican in a recent GOP debate to denounce the Iraq War? Iraq hasn't exactly been a "fiscally responsible" venture, has it been?

And if McCain does somehow win, well---I have always wanted to live abroad. Mandarin classes, anyone?

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» RE: confused Posted by: VZEQICVA
Read My Lips
Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 1, 2008 10:48 PM   
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Put a Clinton on the ticket and put a Republican in the White House.
For sure.
As to what that means (is she a republican, will she lose or both), I'll leave it up to you.

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» RE: Read My Lips Posted by: trampoline
» RE: ead My Lips Posted by: gregii
» RE: ead My Lips Posted by: g50
Won't you please come to Colorado
Posted by: QQOblivion on Feb 2, 2008 6:04 AM   
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Could get REAL interesting in Denver.
To paraphrase Graham Nash,
Won't you please come to Colorado.

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Ugh
Posted by: trampoline on Feb 2, 2008 7:06 AM   
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I agree with every part of this post. And it makes me so depressed.

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Premature
Posted by: Southern Gal on Feb 2, 2008 7:16 AM   
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We are being premature in our comments. The voters have offered surprises so far in this electoral process. Let's see what happens on Super Tuesday.

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Only Diebold can get McCain elected
Posted by: batteredup on Feb 2, 2008 10:17 AM   
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If the Democratic nominee can't put together a campaign to discredit McBrainless back to the stone age where his barbaric, anachronistic mentality resides, then we're probably better off without them running the country further into the ground. A few well-placed ads showing McBrainless spouting off about 1,000 years commitment in Iraq or him singing ba-ba-ba-ba-bomb Iran should convince even the simplest of our electorate to run this guy out on a rail, third rail preferably. Only in America can a guy suffering an ongoing 40-year affliction with PTSD have a chance to become emperor of the United States, Inc.

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Thebigkate
Posted by: Thebigkate on Feb 2, 2008 12:29 PM   
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I dunno! I have been so depressed for the eight years of Cheney's presidency that I need to have a few more months of hope! Plus, I think there really is electricity in the air about Obama and the possibility of having a true "citizen of the world" as President--a person who can write, speak and think in a brilliant, thoughtful and visionary way. So...I say: "Go Barama!"

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Great for the Reps
Posted by: niliadis on Feb 2, 2008 10:31 PM   
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Obama's win will be great for the reps. That why all the Hillary Bashing from the media which is generally Republican. They are all shiviring in thier boots if Hillary should win. Obama easy prey..They will only prove what we all know.Words of change, hope, change, hope, change, hope however no experience to bring the falling economy to a surplus. You honestly don't think that it republican Democrats, its the man or the woman tht will bring our country back to an economy that people are not loosing thier jobs, homes and can bring the life back to the American People. Obama just does not have the experience to bring this about. Maybe as a VP!
After all its our Country's future, its our future, its our livelyhood which we can not risk in Obama's hands!unless you are rich and the economy does not hurt you.As for me and most Americans, we need a president that can bring us prosperity once again. And sorry to say that there is a "Maybe" on Obma's capabilities and I do not want to risk a maybe after all its our livelyhood.

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» RE: Great for the Reps Posted by: g50
NO EXPERIENCE.......
Posted by: niliadis on Feb 2, 2008 10:52 PM   
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No experience=worse economy
No expereince=no global respect continued
No expereince=Great excuse to vote Republican
No experience=bumbling words that can be used by Republicans
No=experience=recession
No experience=futher loss of jobs
No expereince=further loss of homes
NO experience=easy prey to loose to the Republicans!!!
No experience=no prosperity
To many no's to risk our votes
OBAMA=NO EXPERIENCE

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» RE: NO EXPERIENCE....... Posted by: Quannah
Might as well vote Republican
Posted by: vertical on Feb 5, 2008 8:01 PM   
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A votr for Hillary is a vote for a republican. If she gets the nomination I'll vote republican because at least the republican candidate will be honest aboiuyt who they are.

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