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Where Will Edwards Supporters Likely Go?

Posted by Chris Bowers, Open Left at 2:26 PM on January 30, 2008.


In trying to determine if Edwards supporters will break more for Clinton or Obama, there are two main factors to consider: momentum and demographics.
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In trying to determine if Edwards supporters will break more for Clinton or Obama, there are two main factors to consider: momentum and demographics.

First, which candidate currently has the momentum in the campaign? When a candidate drops out of a campaign, his or her supporters tend to break for the candidate with the most momentum at that time. In this case, that appears to be Obama, given that he has gained on Clinton for five consecutive days in the Gallup national tracking poll. While the Rasmussen national tracking poll appears static, and while information from state polls is spotty and incomplete, the past few days have seemed to favor Obama (at least before Florida). Overall, from the perspective of the Obama campaign, this was probably a pretty good time for Edwards to drop out.

Then again, looking the information from the five exit polls (Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina and Florida) Obama might have needed Edwards to stay close on February 5th. Edwards performed well among whites and voters aged 40-65, both of which are demographics that favor Clinton. If there is hope in the demographics for the Obama campaign, it will come from men, and independents, among whom Edwards also performed well. While another strong demographic for Edwards has been self-identified conservatives, there is conflicting information on who that favors. There is also conflicting information on the attendance of religious services among Edwards supporters.

Combine, these two factors, and it is difficult to say for certain where Edwards supporters will turn nationwide. My instincts tell me that Obama faces a much more difficult campaign now, since he could have pointed to the combined totals of his delegates and Edwards delegates as a means of staying in the campaign longer. Starting tomorrow, polling will offer some clues on where Edwards supporters are breaking, and over the weekend there will be polls completed entirely without Edwards. The bottom line is that if Clinton receives the majority of Edwards supporters, this campaign is probably over. If Obama receives the majority of Edwards supporters, then perhaps Edwards leaving the campaign will prove quite timely for his campaign.

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Chris Bowers was a full-time editor at MyDD from May 2004 until June 2007. Some of his projects have included the creation of the Liberal Blog Advertising Network, the first scientifically random poll of progressive netroots activists, the Use It Or Lose It campaign, the nation's most accurate forecast of Democratic house pickups in 2006, and the 2006 Googlebomb the Elections campaign.


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Must go with Obama
Posted by: Kitty Lady Oregon on Jan 30, 2008 2:59 PM   
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Edwards was my candidate after Kucinich dropped out. I will never vote for Hillary Clinton even if she is the nominee. I do not want a redux of the 20th century with Hill and Bill. You all know as well as I do that Bill will be prominent in Hillary's administration. He was a decent enough republican president, and Hillary will be the same. I am still upset at NAFTA, GATT and the other so called "Free" trade deals that they initiated upon the people of this country and Mexico. They have managed to destroy the manufacturing industry of this country. I will support Obama now, and pray really hard that he does a better job than the presidents of the last 30 years.

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I'm Staying Home
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jan 30, 2008 3:18 PM   
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The prospect of choosing between a NeoCon and a DLC Republican Lite come November is no choice. With Edwards and Kucinich out, there is nobody left I want to see in the White House.

The 2008 Democratic Motto:
Oh No We Can't
We Were Fired Up, But We've Already Gone...

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» RE: I'm Staying Home Posted by: CJC
» Not Staying Home, but.... Posted by: nobody4prez
» RE: Not Staying Home, but.... Posted by: EdinIowa
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» RE: I'm Staying Home Posted by: thealltheone
» RE: I'm Staying Home Posted by: goeswithness
Obama, I guess, if I have to, maybe
Posted by: Rod on Jan 30, 2008 3:24 PM   
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Now if Obama would pick Edwards as a VP, I might get a little happier. That is so not going to happen though.

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Is it possible ...
Posted by: EdinIowa on Jan 30, 2008 4:48 PM   
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Maybe just possible that Obama is more of a progressive than he lets on? Than he can let on?

It occurred to me not too long ago that if Obama were saying what Edwards was saying about the corrupting influence of corporate cash, that the MSM would not be ignoring Obama the way they ignored Edwards. They would instead be painting him as the most radical of leftists and a threat to all that we cherish, yadda, yadda.

It may be that Obama has to go with his soaring rhetoric of "hope" - which is pretty devoid of content - because if he actually offered up content he would be crucified by the MSM.

Of course, I haven't read Obama's books and I may be completely grasping at straws here - what else do we have left to grasp at now? - but a part of me sure wants to believe that Obama is more of a genuine progressive than he lets on and that just maybe he could win in November.

But then, like I said, I'm grasping.

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» RE: Is it possible ... Posted by: EdinIowa
Edwards was the right man
Posted by: dfish on Jan 30, 2008 6:08 PM   
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unfortunately, his message was drowned out because he was running against two star candidates. The media has always framed the Democratic nomination as a race between the first black candidate and first women candidate to have a chance of becoming the next POTUS. Edwards never stood a chance.

That's unfortunate for the poor and even middle class Americans to have their voices heard in Washington. Edwards was the only candidate to speak up against the injustices in America, were we see billionaires paying less in taxes than the average middle class family.

I believe if anyone should be compared to JFK it's John Edwards. I believe that who ever wins the democratic nomination should strongly consider naming Edwards as a running mate. If he can't be President he would make a great V.P. I don't think we've seen the last of John Edwards. Hopfully he'll make another atempt at running for President in the future. I think he'd make a great President. He seems like he could wrestle the Government away from the corporations and form a government of the people, for the people.

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» RE: dwards was the right man Posted by: EdinIowa
Leaving the democratic party
Posted by: y_hat on Jan 30, 2008 6:19 PM   
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Where does this Edwards support go? Home.

Obama is republican-lite and stands for nothing.

Hillary is a known quantity that I find completely uninteresting in a corporatist way.

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» RE: Leaving the democratic party Posted by: thealltheone
All fired up and no where to go
Posted by: greenthumb on Jan 30, 2008 7:28 PM   
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Who ever gets the nomination may end up wishing they didn't. They will inherit a mess worse than the last Republican left.The housing crisis, Iraq, the deficit, global warming. I am beginning to feel sorry for the them.
I toy with the notion of voting for Ron Paul just to see what would happen.
He always says "let the people decide".
We could decide not to start any more wars and end the ones we have. We could decide to be more than consumers.We could even decide not to vote.Everybody could decide just to stay home on voting day since it won't matter.
Just a thought.

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» RE: All fired up and no where to go Posted by: thealltheone
Don't stay home
Posted by: teenabooth on Jan 31, 2008 9:03 AM   
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It is always a blow when the candidate of your choice doesn't make it to the end. But we don't get to control reality, we have to work within it. I get tired of people whining that they're going to go home and not vote because the person they don't like best wasn't picked to be captain of the team.

I cannot fathom how anyone could have failed to learn the bitter lesson of these past eight years that it matters very much whether a Democrat or Republican is elected. It is natural to like one candidate over the other, but the positions of all three Dems were very similar, and very different from the GOP. Whether your favorite gets the nomination or not, don't stay home on election day. We have a moral obligation to vote. "Bad officials are elected by good people who don't vote."

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» RE: Don't stay home Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: Don't stay home Posted by: thealltheone
to any democrat that can beat the neo cons
Posted by: thealltheone on Jan 31, 2008 12:37 PM   
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Until we can change the voting process to fairly represent the people, we have to vote for the lessor of two evils once again. In droves! to offset rigged voting machines and the media, we must vote democrat no matter who it is. Republican light or not, is better than a neo con anyday. This is the most important election we can face right now! Forget for now the chaos the war and the many issues....everyone is getting blind sided and split again with all the chaos of the many issues! That is what they want! Our constitution and the supreme court is at stake! With out that we can not do anything about the issues...Bush got to pick two seats, one being the chief justice. Two more seats will be coming up in the next four years...it is already out of balance. A president is here for four, the supreme court justices are for life....if you think the last 8 years were bad, and we get another neo con in there we will no longer have a voice to fight the many issues! Fight for your rights! Vote and vote democrat no matter what!

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Re. the Article itself
Posted by: Shey on Jan 31, 2008 6:03 PM   
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I am so sick of hearing everything defined in terms of "momentum, demographics and polls". What about the candidates themselves? Their stands on the issues? What about each of us ignoring the polls, the pundits and especially mainstream media, and doing some independent thinking, if we haven't forgotten how?

All this bullshit about momentum and demographics and polls is important only because we the people have allowed these things to define our attitudes, beliefs and behavior.

I'm devastated over the loss of Edwards as a candidate, but one thing his supporters are all about is ignoring "conventional wisdom" and looking at a candidate with an open, independent point of view.

Hilary is a lost cause, she's been a sellout for so long, she's forgotten how to be anything else. Whatever independent, ethical, genuine liberal leanings she may have once have had, are long gone (thanks, Bill).
Staying home will get another Republican elected and end Democracy as we know it (more accurately, as we are now holding on to it by a slender thread), if not get us into WW111.

My reluctant support now passes to Obama, in the hope that he isn't yet totally corrupted. Al Gore has endorsed him, while the DLC supports Hilary. Those two facts alone are enough to convince me.

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» RE: e. the Article itself Posted by: Basenjis
Given the stakes......
Posted by: mnascimento on Jan 31, 2008 9:20 PM   
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Given the stakes, it is irresponsible for anyone to get in a snit and say "I'm not voting, cause my candidate dropped out" You are not absolved of complicity in negative outcomes, when you don't vote.
Edwards, Kucinich,Richardson, Biden, Dodd are all good men. I was particularly impressed with Edwards, myself.
Maybe if we had as many voters as we do WHINERS, we would get the kind of candidates who are prepared to represent our interests.
You have noticed that only a per centage of the electorate votes? The rest just Bitch about how much better things should be.

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» RE: Given the stakes...... Posted by: willyd
Incredibly stupid not to vote
Posted by: CJC on Jan 31, 2008 10:18 PM   
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Two generations in my family are disappointed that Edwards had to drop out before we got to cast our primary votes. However, none of us is going to stay home.

WHAT ARE THE SOUR GRAPES NAYSAYERS THINKING????

In 2000 too many people thought Bush seemed OK and genial enough. How bad could it be?
If you don't remember, then you've foregone thinking and caring altogether.

Get a grip. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and back the Democratic candidate. If you live in a Feb 5 primary state make a choice between Obama and Clinton and get to the polls. Staying home in NOT a responsible option. If you're old enough to vote stop thinking like a 10 year old - if we can't play the game my way I'm just going to go home and sulk.

Grow up. Use your heads. Make a choice. Keep the Republicans out of the White House!

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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Posted by: willyd on Feb 1, 2008 12:02 PM   
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Edwards voters will likley goe to sleep. Obama and hil. are just more of the same ole stuff out of was. making you all believ they are differant. They are bought and paid for. They could not care less about you bunch of working peons!!!

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