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Why McCain Will Be Defeated in November [VIDEO]

Posted by Chris Bowers, Open Left at 11:09 AM on January 30, 2008.


McCain simply cannot engage in a substantive debate on anything except Iraq.
The Real John McCain

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With his victory in Florida tonight, it is very, very hard to see a way that McCain does not win the Republican nomination for President now. I had been cheering for Romney, largely because McCain is tied with Clinton and Obama, while right now Romney loses to Obama by 17.0% , and Clinton by 12.4%. Basically, Romney was generic Republican against Clinton and Obama (generic Republican stands virtually no chance against any Democrat right now), while McCain is a known for his "maverick" and "anti-Bush" stances. However, there are many reasons to believe that while Romney would have been an easier Republican opponent, the difference between him and McCain was nowhere near the 12-17% mark in current polls. In truth, the difference between McCain and Romney is more like 5-7%, at best, and here is why:

* Romney is still a relative unknown: While John McCain's name ID is 100%, Mitt Romney's is much lower. Between 4-10% of Romney polling deficit on McCain is derived entirely from being lesser known. In and of itself, this makes the actual gap between Romney and McCain only 8-13%.

*Conservative media elites will thrash McCain. Rush Limbaugh and his ilk with thrash McCain for months on end, encouraging conservatives to either sit at home or support a third-party. This should be worth at least a 3% Nader gross effect, and certainly a 1% Nader net effect. By contrast, conservative media would have produced the opposite impact for Romney. With conservative media not only denying McCain the same buzz, but actually creating counter anti-McCain buzz, chalk up at least another 1-2% in favor of Romney. At least. We might even be able to close the triangle against McCain on multiple occasions, destroying his cred nationwide.

* Money. McCain will simply be unable to raise as much money as Romney could raise, mainly owing to their differences in personal fortune. This will, once again, account for at least a 1-2% difference at the polls, simply because either Clinton or Obama will be able to vastly outspend McCain from February though August. In truth, the difference will probably be larger, 2-3% or more.

* McCain only has Iraq. McCain simply cannot engage in a substantive debate on anything except Iraq. While a right-wing foreign policy might help someone in a Republican primary, the truth is that Democrats still win this discussion, hands down, with the public at large. Democrats still have a significant advantage on Iraq, the country's desire for withdrawal has not waned one iota, and people just don't know how right-wing McCain is on Iraq (source for the first two). When people get a whiff of McCain's hawk stances on Iraq, they will crumble. When they realize he can't debate things like the mortgage crisis (which, btw, Clinton is actually very, very good on, both in terms of policy and rhetoric), they will crumble further. A Republican running on foreign policy right now is a doomed campaign.

* McCain is soft. McCain's upward "surge" in favorables is only two months old, and largely a result of him emerging as the hero, Republican frontrunner. First, rises like this always fade. Second, a drop of only ten points in McCain's favorables--which is absolutely doable for all of the reasons already listed--would put him at a huge deficit compared to either Obama or Clinton. Third, his numbers have dropped and risen thirty points in either direction in just one year. That means the public has an extremely soft and vague view of McCain, something that will disappear during a general election. Under closer scrutiny, the best McCain could hope for is his current situation: a tie with Clinton an Obama. If his current bubble collapses, then he falls way behind either.

* Beating McCain is better than beating Romney: If McCain becomes the nominee, it is only because Republicans think he can win, not because they actually like him. As such, as long as we can pull it off, defeating McCain is actually preferable to defeating Romney. If we beat McCain, then not only did we beat Republicans, but we beat Republicans who sold out in order to try and beat us. Crushing a patsy placeholder like Romney is one thing, but crushing Republicans and conservatives who hated their nominee, but chose him because they thought he could win, is way, way, better. If we beat McCain, then Arnold is the only national Republican moderate left, and he can never run for President. In other words, beat McCain, and we not only beat Republicans, but we beat their entire bench.

Now, with all of this said, I still think that Romney would have been 5-7% easier to defeat. Further, with Romney we had a much better chance of a blowout election that could result in a generational mandate that would realign American politics. However, I just want to make it clear that McCain is still a highly vulnerable target, no matter who wins the Democratic nomination (Clinton and Obama perform roughly equal against him). Better yet, defeating McCain by 5% or more would send the Republican Party reeling for a long, long time to come. Even better than that, a narrow victory over McCain, coupled with progressive primary challenger success and big wins in the Senate, would still produce the most progressive government in D.C. in forty-five years, and possibly ever. Beating McCain crushes Republicans and conservatives over the long-term, whereas beating Romney would only be a temporary victory.

So bring on McCain. While I would have preferred Romney, there are still many benefits to McCain as the Republican nominee.

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Tagged as: iraq, republicans, clinton, obama, mccain, romney

Chris Bowers was a full-time editor at MyDD from May 2004 until June 2007. Some of his projects have included the creation of the Liberal Blog Advertising Network, the first scientifically random poll of progressive netroots activists, the Use It Or Lose It campaign, the nation's most accurate forecast of Democratic house pickups in 2006, and the 2006 Googlebomb the Elections campaign.


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it should be remembered...
Posted by: andrewstromotich on Jan 30, 2008 12:09 PM   
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that john, the survivor of alleged 'torture', helped ammend the legeslation that would have made torture illegal (he ammended it so that it did not pertain to the CIA)...

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» RE: it should be remembered... Posted by: remeredyth
Diebold has decided that...
Posted by: rhinojos on Jan 30, 2008 4:32 PM   
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John McCain should be President of this next term. We don't have any say so in the matter...the sooner we accept that the better we can all sleep at night.

What a glorious sham of a country this turned out to be! Thanks for invading and assimilating us America(you know who you are).

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It depends, imho.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jan 30, 2008 7:22 PM   
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If Clinton gets the nomination, mackain stands a decent chance of winning.

If O'Bama get's it, who knows?

Then again, I'm not a pruffeshenal punditeer. They know in advance who's going to win. See SC for details.

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Less Jobs, more wars!
Posted by: meetmeineleusis on Jan 30, 2008 7:42 PM   
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McCain '08!
Less Jobs, more wars!

I promise (my friends).

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Count the lies about Iraq and Iran from the "Blowhard Express"
Posted by: weslen1 on Jan 30, 2008 7:54 PM   
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I have heard McCain, at least 20 times in the past week repeat the mantra that Iraq had WMDs and ties with AlQuada and 9/11. And I've probably missed at least 20 more. What we NEED is a video montage of Bush admitting there were no WMDs in Iraq and that Iraq was not involved with 9/11 with McCain repeating there were WMDs and ties to 9/11 with the DATES on the bottom of the screen.
As far as the bill banning torture, though, the fact is, the bill was passed, Bush shook McCain's hand on it, then soon as McCain left, Bush wrote one of his signing statements, making torture legal, at least so far as HE AND HIS MINIONS are concerned.
Congress makes the laws, but not one of them are checking on all those signing statements to see how many laws he considers himself and Cheney immune from.
That is an utter DISGRACE.

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» Wonderful Post Posted by: LeeAnnG
Pick your NEOCON
Posted by: Propaganda...Noise on Jan 30, 2008 11:09 PM   
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Because it's the only choice you've got.

Whether it's corporate robot McCaine or puppets Clinton / Obama - pointless triangulation in this laughable column is about as "Open Left" as the NY Times starring fraud "war on terror" William Kristol.

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Dream On............................
Posted by: Ivann on Jan 30, 2008 11:15 PM   
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Clinton & Obama are unelectable.

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Please someone, help me understand.......
Posted by: Sissy on Jan 31, 2008 5:26 AM   
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One thing that I have often wondered over these last 8 years that "The Texas Turd" has been in office. How could McCain end up pandering to "W" after what was done to him by the Bush/Rove machine of '00? McCain was so trashed by this criminally insane bunch at every level, questioning his war effort, accusing his wife of being a drug user, his first marriage, even taking issue with his adopted child. There wasn't a dirty trick in the bag that wasn't pulled out and thrown at McCain and it stuck. What did we see in the ensuring years? Total capitulation, sucking up and unquestionable support for all policies Bush, except he allowed himself to take issue with Rummy. I just don't get it. If anyone attacked the intigrity of our spouses, or innocent children, most of us would fight to the death for them, but McCain never did....except perhaps when it happened at the time, but then I thought his response was quite tepid for what was done to his family.

Why do you suppose that is? Perhaps someone has a different take. If so, I would really love to hear it. Maybe he was looking forward to another run and needed the support? Nah, that would be a tad bit too much of a price to pay, wouldn't it?

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Have we forgotten already
Posted by: Trazom on Jan 31, 2008 5:43 AM   
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that the current Misfit In Chief couldn't win a debate with a 3 year old, yet that didn't seem to matter in 2000 or especially, 2004. So really, what difference does it make that McCain doesn't have anything besides Iraq! Since when does the public value speaking skills and/or rational thought? Please.

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» RE: Have we forgotten already Posted by: blitzmesser
Out of The Blue
Posted by: When In Doubt on Jan 31, 2008 6:47 AM   
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McCain is as senile as Reagan was when he left office.

McCain with Huckabee is a terrifying thought.

It is nearer than you think.

This country has never been in more perilous times that now.

Yet so many have been elected by less than 49% of the registered voters.

How are YOU sleeping?

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"Manchurian" McCain is totally clueless regarding the economy!!
Posted by: xvictor on Jan 31, 2008 7:02 AM   
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I can't see how he can possibly win the nomination, let alone the presidency. In one of the recent debates, Dr. Ron Paul had asked him a serious question regarding the U.S. economic/financial picture. McCain was dancing around the answer like some clueless moron. No wonder Rudy and McCain are so-called friends, birds of a feather...as they say.

Then again, Republicans have always prided themselves in alleging they know all about finance and economics. In the last several years, we had seen a much different picture. And in that case, McCain is their true poster boy.

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When Running Against Any SUBSTANTIVE Article, This One Loses By 35%...?
Posted by: grumble-bum on Jan 31, 2008 7:32 AM   
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... Or 42%, when matched against an actual opinion.

Maybe it's because I'm running a fever today, but I'm quite literally sick of all this gibberish. So called "Left" writers trying to "pass" as members of the Pundit Class, with their cynical number games & Fantasy League Politics. Ugh.

Repeat after me;

This is not a game!

This is not a game!

This is not a game!

Whatever cute little theory the author glibly presents us with, this underlying reality doesn't change; We are now presented with a slate of Presidential candidates whose only real disagreement stems from how many hundreds of years they plan to keep us mired in Occupied Iraq & how many nukes we will launch into Iran. Beyond that, they also differ slightly on how richly rewarded (or "not punished") the initial architects of that disaster should be, the level of essentially meaningless Greenwashing they're willing to support, & the degree to which they hope to capitalize on the windfall of Executive powers coming their way.

If the author wants to posit a "generational defeat", perhaps he should take a hard look at how this sort of numerical gobbledygook has helped to bring us all to this pass. Thanks in large part to all these professional handicappers playing their little games, we have no choices left, except which ultimately empty campaign we are going to "break" for.

Thanks a million (to one)!

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You raise Valid Points, But...
Posted by: ronheri on Jan 31, 2008 8:20 AM   
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The author of this article raises a lot of truthful and valid issues regarding McCain, and Romney. McCain admitted in a couple if interview earlier this month that he knew little about economics. Then after the last debate denied having said that. Romney is all over the map with his changing stances on all the issues. Hillary (ties to both the Bilderbergers, and the Council on Foreign Affairs). Backed by the militery-industrial complex and the owner of Fox News; who is quoted as saying we will be in Iraq till at least 2013. Obama? His wife is an official in the Council on Foreign Affairs, (along with Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rockafeller). This One World Government think tank seeks to meld Mecico, Canada, and The USA. He is also bought and paid for by the big bankers; and has no intention of getting us out of the middle east. He says, nothing is off the table (including nukes) to take on Iran, Pakistan, or whoever. The only candidate running who can help America with his vast knowledge of economics and foreign affairs is Ron Pau. Rudy admitted as nuch in a video yesterday when he dropped out of the race. He said Ron Paul won all of the debates. He said it with a snicker; but it was the only truth I've heard from him in a year. Ron Paul will rescue social security, by cutting the enormous expenses of our overseas empire building. Then will gradually move us into a better system. The Federal Reserve must be removed from printing money and destroying the dollar. (This foreign banking cartel is not Federal and they have no Reserves). Ron Paul may not get elected this year, but the American people are starting to wake up as to just how bad we are getting you know what. The MSM owned and controlled by the same power elite has done their best to keep him hidden from public view. This Ron Paul movement is just begining to grow (and this is worldwide). People around the globe are fed up and are ready to take back their freedoms and their lives from this evil that has spread across the globe and onto the shores of America. The New World Order will be defeated.

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skysage
Posted by: Skysage on Jan 31, 2008 8:38 AM   
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The writer of this article is truly deluded to even consider Romney as his choice. What has happened to the American brain and heart is beyond me to understand. Doesn't he see that neither of these candidates are true Americans? True Americans do not vote for endless war nor praise the crooked Ronald Reagan who got away with murder. Romney is heartless when it comes to helping the people and our country. These guys still don't get it. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and George Bush lied to create an unlawful war. Why can't they simply understand that this war is against the Constitution. If they support it, they are criminals. These guys are inhumane. It is simply unbelievable that they have no clue nor care about the men and women who are suffering and dying in Iraq for an illegal war, and where so many are committing suicide because they are held there indefinitely. We are the terrorists and we are creating more terrorists by our stupid acts of aggression. What else needs to be said?

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mick3
Posted by: mick3 on Jan 31, 2008 9:01 AM   
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Assuming that there will be another election.

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Ron Paul et al
Posted by: Redhead5050 on Jan 31, 2008 10:29 AM   
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Ron Paul is a bigot. He is a crackpot at best. Huckabee, the wacko thinks the earth is 6000 years old...and wants to change the Constitution to have a christian slant..ugh! McCain is an old nutcase with one string to play...more troops in Iraq, Romney..thinks we are going to other worlds...maybe he would support space programs...has a ton of his own cash (which he has spent a good deal of on this election process) and would see to it that he benefits financially from any leadership position he has. Hillary is a bit harsh and has worked too closely with big money..she has experience and stands up for our veterans in her position as Senator. Obama, is young has less balls than Hillary and would be eaten alive by the slime controlling the govt.

The problem is that in order to compete, you must be filthy rich and have the filthy rich in your corner...too bad. We are missing out on a good deal of talent, skill and leadership.

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Beyond McCain
Posted by: farleya on Jan 31, 2008 11:18 AM   
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Yours is a good question, but larger than McCain, because we keep getting bogged down and being given bad information, and while McCain may be “defeated” and “disappear into the mist”, where he belongs, we keep getting poor results (both Democrat and Republican) in the persons we are left with to represent us on issues that directly effect our lives and those of the children for whom we would like to leave a better world.

I would like to pose the question regarding the (at least) eight year hiatus, taken by the U.S. media, and their "shell shocked", and "hands off" response to "Bush crime family", and friends. It appalls, frightens, and sometimes baffles us, but I am coming to the conclusion that so many of those (we fail to hold) responsible for informing us, as well as the greater number of those elected to make the critical decisions effecting our lives, are neither responsible nor very smart. They're just thugs in suits who happen to appear on television, which is no small thing. That medium gives them a perceived power, inaccessibility, and authority, which may seem, difficult to bridge or penetrate. "They", media and most of our elected officials, many acting like irresponsible celebrities, may be smart and sinister, and/or bought and paid for, and quite lacking any ability to see beyond their own self interest, but it is quite up to us to see these people for who they are, and "spread the word". McCain, no matter how well intentioned, is just a little wacky guy, who has only ever been able to see the world from a very narrow perspective, and his own very singular self interest. He's just one of many who is taking us to places we don't want to be.

Our knowledge, understanding, and confidence in our ability to act, individually and collectively, is what stands between us and the powerful and misguided.

Thank you Alter-Net, Bill Moyers, Naomi Klein, and all to those media sponsors and supporters of informed dialogue that keep the focus on ideas, and the subversion of corporate news media trivia.

Farley Andrews

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That McCain can't debate..........
Posted by: tap17x on Jan 31, 2008 1:46 PM   
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.........doesn't matter at all. Bush lost every debate spectacularly and still almost won. The TV-soaked imbecile voters care only that he was comfortable to have a beer with. They felt comfortable with a fellow idiot. Said voters are beneath hopeless and the Refucklicans know exactly how to pander to their sorry asses. I dread November.

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Garbage numbers are NOT valid statistics!!
Posted by: phrogg40 on Jan 31, 2008 2:33 PM   
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This writer's "numbers" are not valid - most likely picked out of the air. When one throws out numbers like this, they MUST include an explanation of how they were derived! Otherwise the numbers are garbage.

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Said it before
Posted by: crazy carlos on Jan 31, 2008 4:36 PM   
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War hero/Ancient Mariner McCain Pres. and running mate Dual Israel Citizenship/Traitor
Liberman as V.P.--Republican ticket. Mccain to incinerate the world and Liberman to hand over whats left to Israel (perhaps a Burnt Offering?)

Only in America!!

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When is the fact that McCain is not even a...
Posted by: buddyedgewood on Jan 31, 2008 7:32 PM   
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natural born citizen going to be raised and therefore not even qualified to hold the office of President?

The U.S. Constitution explicitly states: “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”

John McCain was born August 29, 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone, to two U.S. citizens. It’s a common misunderstanding that the zone was a U.S. territory - in fact, the U.S. had lease rights, but not territorial rights.

“Natural Born Citizen” - “is where ONLY the natural act of one being born in a place determines the status of ones citizenship with no additional stipulations necessary to influence that status"

...I not even going to bring up the fact that McCain is a racist.

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» Interesting but dubious Posted by: Hans B
WHAT HAPPENED IN 2000
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 1, 2008 7:51 AM   
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That's when McCain lost me. Bush flat out lied about him in the South Carlina primary and he did noting about it. And to this day refuses to confront Bush about it. That's not a maverick. Anna

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