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Yet Another Clintonite Attacks Obama for His Drug Use as a Teen

Posted by Blue Texan, Firedoglake at 7:08 AM on January 14, 2008.


I guess getting knocked off your inevitability perch in Iowa, barely winning NH and blowing your national lead makes personal destruction politics OK.
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There is no doubt now that the Clinton campaign has decided to make a major campaign issue of Obama's decades-old personal behavior. Robert Johnson, the founder of BET, said this at a Clinton rally in South Carolina Sunday:

I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood -and I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book -when they have been involved.

So first you had Billy ShaheenMark Penn sleazily dropping the c-word on "Hardball." Now Johnson. This is obviously not a series of accidents. This is the strategy.

Here's the irony: by making Obama's personal life a campaign issue, the Clintons are giving aid and comfort to the Richard Mellon Scaifes of the world, who for years have played the same dirty game. And in doing so, Bill and Hillary are spitting right in the face of those of us who defended them against those tactics. Every Democrat who has for 15 years insisted that personal behavior has no place in political debate is now made a fool. Unforgivable. Here's Hillary just last February:

"I sure don't want Democrats, or the supporters of Democrats, to be engaging in the politics of personal destruction," said Clinton. "I think we should stay focused on what we're going to do for America."

I guess getting knocked off your inevitability perch in Iowa, barely squeaking out a win in NH and blowing most of your national lead makes the politics of personal destruction okay. Because I can't see what Obama did as a teenager has to do with anything. This is very, very depressing.

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Blue Texan is a regular contributing blogger for FireDogLake.


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Personal stuff
Posted by: jmooney on Jan 14, 2008 8:02 AM   
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I agree that attacking someone for using illegal drugs as a teen is absurd, particularly if there is no evidence he or she is now using them. Addiction would be a problem as president. Ooops! Wait a second. Addiction was a problem for a president, President Bill Clinton.

I wasn't for the Starr witch hunt, but anyone with a wit of sense knew Bill had a serious sexual addiction problem, a problem that compromised his ability to lead. Even without Starr, what he did with Lewinsky was wrong and a clear example that something was terribly wrong with his psyche.

I doubt Bill has received any serious for sex addiction, and to put him back into the White House in such a state is just begging for more shenanigans.

It is time to put and end to the House of Clinton.

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» RE: Personal stuff Posted by: freshlemon
» RE: Personal stuff Posted by: anna132
Hillary Did Inhale
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jan 14, 2008 8:04 AM   
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It may have not happened yet, but if Hillary gets the nomination, then watch the Right-wing bring up HILLARY's own drug use as a teen or more currently.
(I figure her to be poppin' those prescription pills. But I digress.)

When it comes to drug-use, she seems to protest just a little too much.
And, yes, she DID inhale. I just know it.

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» RE: Hillary Did Inhale Posted by: Lauren
Hillary's Own Smear-Campaign
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jan 14, 2008 9:36 AM   
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I am sick of these Karl Rove-ian tactics. We've had enough of those the last 8 years. If I wanted more dirty-tricks, Ms Clinton, I would vote Republican. Please clean up your act.

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All is Fair in Love & War (including Politics)
Posted by: tommy1957 on Jan 14, 2008 10:14 AM   
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Not a single human is perfect; and in politics that means you will be attacked for your faults. If you like Obama; you won't care; it you like Clinton; you wont care. What is important is that we focus on the prize and do what George McGovern says; impeach "W" and Dick.

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Judge them by the company they keep
Posted by: drmflorida on Jan 14, 2008 10:37 AM   
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Robert Johnson is a Bush supporter. He is a defender of the status quo for people of color because he has made billions from them. He is poverty's greatest cheerleader.

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Good
Posted by: frankfortpost on Jan 14, 2008 12:09 PM   
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I see nothing wrong with what Obama did when he was younger, and I see no reason to apologize for it.

Learning experiences often come in various forms, and you cannot discount one over the other.

As bad as this sounds, I feel like it is the equivalent of making a black person feel bad because they were a slave back in the civil war days.

Drug policy needs to be overhauled, and anytime a politician brings up something this nonsensical, logical counterarguments should be formed immediately.

Obama should be talking about the thousands of blacks who get put in prison or jail over petty "drug crimes" instead of wrangling over defending himself over such a dumb issue.

The Frankfort Post

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ABOUT PERSONAL LIVES
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jan 14, 2008 12:32 PM   
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George Bush's personal life was off limits when he was running.He simply refused to answer questions. Nobody pressed him and look what we got. A guy who'd been a drunk for 20 yrs. An arrest record and what he descirbes as "his youthful indiscretions". I say they all owe us an accounting of what they're about. Public life is tough. And yes, it is our business. We have to learn something from these last 8 years. Thanks, ANNA

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The Clinton's
Posted by: Sissy on Jan 15, 2008 5:37 AM   
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I can't help but think, "For an Administration that was harrassed, villified, demonized, pilloried and never given a moment's piece for the whole 8 years, why would they NOT want to run a issues oriented, clean campaign?"

I thought all thru the 90's that I didn't really care what Clinton did in his personal life. It was how he ran the country and he did a pretty good job, and I thought he could have done even better if the "other side" would have bowed to the people's will and let him lead! Instead it was a fight to bring him down from day one and yes he did some terribly stupid, insane things, but so what? No one died. Now when Hillary has a chance to show some class and lead by example, she has a campaign that is every bit as "dirty" as what I accused Rove & Company.

I know politics is rough, that a significant part of getting your candidacy out there is showing how much better you are than your opponent(s). Given especially these last 10 days or so, she ain't doin' it....

I am honestly getting to the point where should she become the nominee, I am having grave doubts of voting for her. No, I would not vote for any republican, but for the first time in several decades, I would be staying home.

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johncp
Posted by: johnp on Jan 15, 2008 6:10 AM   
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Why the bullshit Blue Texan? You claim that Hillary "barely" won in NH? Hillary roundly beat Obama in NH. She won by about 3 points, "only if" you include Independent voters in the mix. But based on democratic votes alone, which are the ones that matter, her win was 8 or 9 points! Nearly all the largely conservative newspapers and media sources oppose a Hillary presidency, so they "never" tell the public that she beat Obama to a significant extent, among democratic voters.

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johncp
Posted by: johnp on Jan 15, 2008 6:16 AM   
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drmflorida's words are two-faced. You didn't complain when Obama got support from Oprah, yet you bicker about Johnson being a Bush backer, but Oprah is also a Bush backer. Her votes have been more often for republicans than for democrats.

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Teen Drug Use
Posted by: rafey on Jan 15, 2008 6:19 AM   
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It's all fine to me ... so long as he didn't inhale !

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johncp
Posted by: johnp on Jan 15, 2008 6:21 AM   
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jmooney's comments are hypocritical and childish. The idea that a person can have a "sexual addiction," is a piece of preposterous pseudo-science. There is no such thing. It's like calling someone "oversexed," it's just name-calling, made to seem like it has a scientific basis. It has a basis alright, but in two things, prudery or stupidity.

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Hypocrisy, smear, steroetyping...
Posted by: djnoll on Jan 15, 2008 10:08 AM   
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The tactics of smearing an opponent must be right out of the Rove Book of Campaign Tactics, and is no better than swiftboating of John Kerry. Bob Johnson is no better than Barack Obama, I suspect, in his youth, or for that matter Bill Clinton. Being a baby boomer, although not one who was using drugs as a teenager, I knew many people who tried drugs, all kinds from pot to eightballs (coke and heroin mixed for the uninitiated). I went to Staples High School, in Westport, CT, where we made national news for the use of drugs in 1970. It is a national shame that many of our young people at all economic levels experiment with drugs. Many fall to the lure, but many, including the Clintons, Bob Johnson, and Barack Obama, admit it, move on and make a life worthy of praise and filled with accomplishments. Bob Johnson was not only a puppet of a white power-hungry politician, he allowed the discussion to move away from issues that are important to African-Americans, such as jobs and housing, to race bait another black man. What is your problem, Mr. Johnson, does Mr. Obama not represent the stereotype black man you are exploiting on your network, so you felt compelled to bring him down for some white bitch and her Southern husband? Now how is that for political double speak – I have covered race, sex, and southern equals bigot the way lazy equals shiftless in Rovian speak. How does it feel, Mr. Johnson, to be played because you have money that Mrs. Clinton wants for her campaign, and played in the most despicable manner ever?

For more on this, see "Politicians Fiddle While America Burns" at
http://www.standanddeliveramerica.com

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The Dems should concentrate on...........
Posted by: tap17x on Jan 15, 2008 2:36 PM   
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........proving who's the most anti-Refucklican and would most thoroughly refute and cancel all that the R's have done. Attacking other Dems is not worthwhile. I'd like to see a Dem attack a Refucklican on the basis that he supported or even tolerated Bush. McCain is vulnerable on that point. Drag the nominee down with his association with Bushit.

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