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Ron Paul Fans Fight Fox News Over New Hampshire Debate

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 4:42 PM on January 1, 2008.


If this doesn't prove that Fox is just a mouthpiece for the GOP establishment, nothing will.
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After having watched every major debate for both parties' presidential candidates, I can certainly understand the temptation on the part of organizers to limit participants. The more candidates on the stage, the greater the need for shorter answers and fewer questions.

Having said that, this just isn't kosher.

Republican Rep. Ron Paul and his supporters are targeting the Fox News network today after an Internet discussion spread during the weekend that the cable network wasn't giving the Texas lawmaker a seat at the table for a New Hampshire forum scheduled two days before the state's Jan. 8 primary. [...]

This morning, Washington Wire received a mass email from an independent Paul supporter calling on his considerable online organization to write to Fox employees and protest the decision. The email listed the addresses of about 60 Fox employees, from press contacts to hosts Bill O'Reilly, Shepard Smith, Neil Cavuto and Brit Hume.

"Has Fox News Excluded Ron Paul From the Pre NH Primary Forum?" the email said, "Fox News cannot just stifle public opinion. debate and impact a primary election by excluding Ron Paul just because they don't like his message of freedom and liberty," the email said (typos included).

Fox News and the New Hampshire Republican Party will host a forum at St. Anselm College, featuring Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson. Given that Paul has about twice as much support in New Hampshire as Thompson, he's likely to finish ahead of Giuliani in Iowa, and he's raised more money in the fourth quarter than any of them, it's hard to understand how the Republican network can justify excluding Paul. (Fox News has not announced its criteria for participation.)

What's more, the state GOP has said it wants Paul on the stage, meaning that it's Fox News specifically that's decided to exclude the Texas Republican from the event.

Josh Marshall added, "Paul's out because he's not a Fox News Bush-clone. Say whatever you want about the guy, Fox News shouldn't be able to silence him because they don't like his views."

I'm not even close to a Ron Paul fan, but I'm certainly willing to concede that Fox News shouldn't stack the deck like this.

Digby added:

If this doesn't prove that Fox is just a mouthpiece for the GOP establishment, nothing will. [...]

Not that we didn't know that Fox was a simple Republican house organ, but it's never been more starkly illustrated than this. The Republicans don't like what Paul is saying and they told their boy Ailes to shut him down. They aren't even trying to hide it.

As it happens, ABC is also hosting Democratic and Republican debates on Jan. 5 in New Hampshire, and will also be stingy with its invitations. Unlike Fox News, however, ABC at least has identifiable criteria for participation.

The network says it will include only candidates who finish in the top four in the Iowa caucuses or receive at least 5 percent in New Hampshire or national polls.

The criteria could potentially sideline several of the Democrats, including Senators Christopher J. Dodd and Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Stay tuned.

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Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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Posted by: formaryjane on Jan 1, 2008 5:24 PM   
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personal feelings toward the election aside for right now.

that a corporate network would try to drown the voice of a very highly considered member of congress running for a national leadership
position? and to make matters worse just before the jan. 8th primary? a surely biased decision. but to do all this openly? with no supporting criteria?

ha...

nothing like a scandal to show you who the real P.O.S are.

free media is one thing. but a media that influences it is whole other story. what is the means to do this, why ron paul?

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While I can't tell people who to vote for....
Posted by: ItsTime on Jan 1, 2008 6:15 PM   
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While I can't tell people who to vote for, may I suggest who Not to vote for. Don't vote for any candidate who belongs to the CFR. They're all the same pig in different clothes.

Clues to who owns US

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FauxNews had it in for Ron Paul since day one....
Posted by: xvictor on Jan 2, 2008 3:43 AM   
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Just after Dr. Ron Paul had thorougly trounced the other Repug candidates in the first debate held in South Carolina. all the FauxNews propagandists, including dimwit bimbo Michele Malkin, labeled Dr. Paul a nutcase and should be excluded from all future debates.

Yep, Ron Paul had incurred the wrath of the FauxNews henchmen after he made Rudy Ghouliani look like a DUMBASS during that debate.

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The Neocons are running scared of Dr. Paul...
Posted by: xvictor on Jan 2, 2008 3:49 AM   
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There's no other way to put it. And that's a good thing!!!

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RON PAUL
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jan 2, 2008 4:00 AM   
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How anyone, at this late date, can take FOX Noise even semi-seriusly is one of the mysteries of the age. The fact that it is the highest rated cable news network is instructive when trying to analize why the American people are the most ill-informed people in the western world

In a more enlightened era, Ron Paul would be an abysmal candidate to offer up as a potential nominee. His views on so many issues can only be described (politely) as just a tad off-kilter. But the sad and ironic fact of the matter is that the "party of Lincoln" has fallen so far down into the idological sewer in recent years, he is their brightest, shining light.

It's really kind of funny when you think about it.

TOM DEGAN
Goshen, NY

"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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Ron Paul Should Debate
Posted by: Sissy on Jan 2, 2008 4:49 AM   
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I agree that Ron Paul should debate but for different reasons than Tom's. Dr. Paul's views aren't new, they're pure Libertarian, a party that has a small voice but which Rep. Paul has managed to bring out loud and clear because there are a lot of people who are sick to death of the current political parties.

No, I believe Paul should debate because people need to really see what he is about and what kind of leading he will do in this country. A subject that has already been debated au nasium on AlterNet as well as Peek.

Personally I think the attention that Fox Noise is getting over this issue is great. It is a network that supposedly a majority of people absolutely "swear by", but can you imagine if there was a network totally devoted to the dems or the left what we would hear? AND don't say MSM already is because its not. For every Keith Olberman's there are 10 O'Reilly's, Hannity's, Coulter's, Ingram's, Limbaugh's etc. who spout their insane opinions every day and more often than not their "spouting" are total lies, half-truths, innuendo's and no one hardly to counter them. President Reagan took out "Truth in broadcasting" some 25 years ago. The American's "Right to Know Both Sides of an Issue" have suffered ever since.

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Well, ther you go, Libertarians...
Posted by: ordaj on Jan 2, 2008 5:04 AM   
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Free market, laisse-faire capitalism allows consolidation of power and media rollups. So, you can't decry a decision that is a result of power consolidation just because it goes against you. A lot of business-favorable decisions go against the citizenry.

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» Ah, if only his campaign were... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
In the best of all worlds....
Posted by: jmmartin on Jan 2, 2008 5:23 AM   
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Isn't it possible at least that this ploy by Fox Noise will actually backfire on them, making Paul beneficiary of a sympathy vote? At the very least, Paul could become a spoiler, forming an independent party based on his groundswell of grassroots support, and with money raised on the Net, steal votes from the GOPS in the fall, thus giving greater assurance of victory for the Dems.

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Hey, why not?
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jan 2, 2008 8:46 AM   
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This is EXACTLY what ALL of the mainstream media does to all candidates not approved by the corporate structure... that being all the candidates who are not annointed "frontrunners" well before anyone votes for anything. They cover the handful of candidates they approve of giving them free publicity. Then one of those candidates gets the nomination. Then the two corporate approved candidates battle it out between the two corporate controlled parties.

Want proof? Even when Ron Paul (who I do not support. Some want to paint anyone who even says his name as a Paul supporter) was outranking McCain in the polls, McCain was still a "frontrunner" while Paul was not.

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EITHER WAY, FOX LOSES
Posted by: James W. Harris on Jan 2, 2008 9:03 AM   
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Ron Paul has had the guts to stand up to the war criminals, the torturers, the authoritarians. He's a principled voice for peace and civil liberties.

No wonder FOX and lots of people want him silenced.

It's the same thing the two older parties do to upstart third parties, by ballot access laws that keep Greens, Libertarians and so on off the ballots.

But now we have the Web. We have ways of getting our message out. There is new potential for those maverick voices who represent millions but who have been silenced and stymied until now.

Whatever FOX does now will backfire. This is such an obvious injustice that Paul will win additional support and sympathy. And if FOX recants, then it will indicate Paul's growing support.

Either way, FOX loses, Paul wins. It's a new era now.

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Oh if only this could happen.....
Posted by: drmflorida on Jan 2, 2008 9:47 AM   
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The Democrats should invite Ron Paul to their debate! It would give Ron Paul a chance to speak his piece, and the democrats a chance to distinguish themselves from his more extreme right-wing ideas.

If only the keys to our democracy hadn't already been handed to big media.

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tog
Posted by: tog on Jan 3, 2008 8:22 AM   
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it is all expected that the MSM media will not support Dr. Paul. these MSM media outlets are owned by powerful internationalists who want one world government and the destruction of the USA.
Dr. Ron Paul is our only hope that the USA would survive as a powerful independent nation.
the best we can all do, if Dr. Paul is not nominated by the Republican party, we should draft him as an independent 3th party or 4th party ( Bloomberg running for President), if the votes will be split 4 ways i believe Dr. Paul will win.

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» RE: tog Posted by: Calude
10% in IOWA
Posted by: babaprad on Jan 4, 2008 9:51 AM   
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Our man got 10% in Iowa - that's definitely two digits as far as I know. Why is he still not invited.

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» RE: 10% in IOWA why? Posted by: nightgaunt