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Franken-Coleman Recount: How Far Will It Go?

Posted by Phoenix Woman, Firedoglake at 9:03 AM on January 10, 2009.


Will Norm be able to take this all the way to the conservative-controlled US Supreme Court?
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Now that Norm's decided to blow another couple million bucks on his lawyers, the big question is:  How far will it go?  Will Norm be able to take this all the way to the conservative-controlled US Supreme Court, should the three-judge contest panel not give him the answer the national Republican leadership wants to hear?   An FDL commenter, Sara, believes that Norm won't be able to take this to the Federal level at all:

 You have to begin with the Statute Law — in this contest, the party bringing the suit has the burden of proof. What the court will and can order would depend on whether Coleman comes in with proof of his claims sufficent to cause the court to issue an order. The court could, for instance, require bond for any expenses, and by law the loser pays all court costs.

Ironically, the whole Minnesota Recount system and statute law is based on the foundation of the decisions in the MN Governor’s recount case in 1962-63, Anderson V. Rolvaag. That decision is actually addressed in Bush v. Gore to the argument that State Election Law prevails in State Elections. The court in 2000 had to argue around Anderson v. Rolvaag on the grounds that the Constitution set a deadline for Flordia’s vote count — the date of the Electorial College meeting. That exception would not apply to Minnesota, as we have no deadlines other than requirements as to when trials have to begin in a Contest. So in essence Bush v. Gore actually recognized Anderson v. Rolvaag as the lead precident, the settled law. So no, I don’t predict it will successfully get into Federal Court. In '63 the case went through the Federal Courts — the decision Anderson v. Rolvaag was written by the 8th Circuit Appeals Court, and affirmed by the Warren Supreme Court. So given this — I don’t think the Feds will even look at the case.

Meanwhile, local blogger Centristy debunks Norm's "duplicate voting" allegation (h/t REW at Blog of the Moderate Left).

By the way, remember the Wall Street Journal's editors' bizarre smear launched against the State Canvassing Board?  The one I referenced in my update yesterday?  That turkey stank so badly, even the far-right dudes at Powerline, a local right-wing blog, had to protest it (h/t Keith Pickering):

The Board of Canvassers that was convened to preside over the recount and rule on challenged ballots conducted itself honorably under difficult circumstances. ... I have known Chief Justice Magnuson professionally more than 25 years. Justice Anderson was my law school classmate and is a friend. In my view, they are two of the best judges serving in the Minnesota courts. Period.

There was no noticeable partisan division among the board. Minnesotans are justifiably proud of the transparency and fairness of their work. I reject any imputation of misconduct to the board such as is implicit in the Journal editorial.

That tells you how deeply the WSJ's trogdolytes in the editorial offices stepped in it, when their own fellow travelers have to smack them around.

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Tagged as: minnesota, al franken, election '08, norm coleman, recount, senate race, wall steet journal

Phoenix Woman is a regular blogger for FireDogLake


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Stolen Election
Posted by: _Chris on Jan 11, 2009 6:54 AM   
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Al Franken is about to be elevated to the U.S. Senate as a result of a bunch of funny business. Twenty-five precincts in Minnesota have recorded more votes cast than voters on Election Day. Ramsey County alone has 177 more ballots than people who voted. The vast majority of these over-votes have gone to Franken. In parts of the state, military ballots were not counted. Any ballot that was challenged was copied for review. But, in many cases, the election canvassers forgot to label the copy as a duplicate, so it was counted twice. So not only were the disputed ballots counted, they were counted twice!

While Coleman for me is way to much of a centrist, (Doesn't stand for anything), Franken surely isn't qualified. Get your facts straight and quit being disingenuous. Franken would have done the same thing as Coleman.

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» RE: Stolen Election Posted by: pelican beak
» RE: Stolen Election Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
» The Supreme Court... Posted by: Bbear41
» Correction: Supreme Count Posted by: godsbreath64
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Posted by: STORMY78 on Jan 12, 2009 10:05 AM   
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Norm Coleman announced he was the winner on election night. The count was very close and was automatically by state law, sent into a recount. At that time, Coleman in a press conference said Al Franken was just wasting the taxpayer's money by agreeing to a recount.
Well Al has come out ahead of Coleman. So I guess it's okay with Coleman to waste the taxpayer's money on a dead horse, sic Coleman.
Coleman should concede and take the loss like an adult.
I welcome Al Franken to the Minnesota Senate.

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Does it matter?
Posted by: Tombo on Jan 12, 2009 12:47 PM   
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Is there any real difference between Republicans and Democrats. Neither party has proven that they represent the people's interests. Just yesterday Franken (who I voted for) proved himself to be just another shill for AIPAC while Obama appoints a chief of staff who is the son of an Israeli terrorist.

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RADICAL RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS JUST RODE INTO DOMINATION OF OUR STATE
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jan 12, 2009 8:37 PM   
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legislature on the coat tails of John McCain. We still have a democratic governor. But you should see where our democrat is going next.

Are you familiar with the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact? Its our local version of OPEC. He will be the new head. How right wing is that?

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Typical
Posted by: FreeAmerica on Jan 13, 2009 3:29 PM   
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Why is it that when the R won on election night it was challengable, but when the D wins the recount by 1/10th of the margin among a lot of questionable behavior, it is unassailable and a dead horse.

I think that they should seat franken and make him the head of the D party. He swiped the election, is a hateful pathological liar, is incapable of grounded rational thought, and if he had an extramarital affair, he could be the perfect democrat. Let's hold him up for what he is and give him howie dean's job too. Franken/McKinney 2016!

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