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How San Francisco's Archbishop Worked Hard to Pass Prop. 8

Posted by Teddy Partridge, Firedoglake at 12:03 PM on November 10, 2008.


The role of the Archbishop of San Francisco in the Prop 8 battle became clearer today.

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The role of the Archbishop of San Francisco in the Prop 8 battle became clearer today: it was he who engaged the Mormon Leadership on Prop 8.

Months before the first ads would run on Proposition 8, San Francisco Catholic Archbishop George Niederauer reached out to a group he knew well, Mormons.

Niederauer had made critical inroads into improving Catholic-Mormon relations while he was Bishop of Salt Lake City for 11 years. And now he asked them for help on Prop. 8, the ballot measure that sought to ban same-sex marriages in California.

The June letter from Niederauer drew in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and proved to be a critical move in building a multi-religious coalition -- the backbone of the fundraising, organizing and voting support for the successful ballot measure. By bringing together Mormons and Catholics, Niederauer would align the two most powerful religious institutions in the Prop. 8 battle.

Niederauer's meddling in civic affairs has been revealed before, of course. He was last heard from in September, when he called his parishioner Speaker Nancy Pelosi in for a chat:

San Francisco Archbishop George H. Niederauer said he had received letters and e-mails from "many Catholics" expressing dismay over Pelosi's remarks, in which she said the matter of when life begins remained controversial within the church. He said many of them questioned whether she should be able to receive communion from the church.

Pelosi made the remarks in an Aug. 24 interview with "Meet the Press" host Tom Brokaw after Brokaw said that the Catholic Church believes strongly that life begins at conception.

Her comments have been criticized by several Catholic Church officials, and Niederauer described them as being "in serious conflict" with the church in the Sept. 5 issue of Catholic San Francisco.

Niederauer concludes that, based on Catholic Church statements, it is up to him as Pelosi's pastor to address whether she may continue to receive communion. He then invites the Speaker "into a conversation with me about these matters."

Niederauer's connection to Salt Lake City is fascinating.  But, the direct connection of San Francisco to Rome may also pertain. Remember, the previous Archbishop, William Joseph Levada, was called to Rome in 2005 to be Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the position formerly held by Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI.


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A Union Made in Hell
Posted by: Xynyx on Nov 10, 2008 12:40 PM   
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So... the Flagship of Patriarchy sought and successfully enlisted the assistance of the Moron Church. Will we see a softening in the Catholic Church's stance on polygamy, perhaps? One wonders...

So... Nancy Pelosi is a member of the patriarchal institution, eh? Oh! You don't think that might somehow have the potential to cause some inner conflict for Nancy? No... inner conflict is strictly off the table, you say. One wonders...

If Prop 8 is struck down, as it should be, perhaps more people will see how truly anti-democratic these institutions are. These so-called churches are nothing more than minions of Hell, if you ask me. (Of course, I don't believe in Hell... but it's fun to throw the word around.)

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» RE: A Union Made in Hell Posted by: johnbradleycopeland
As A Recovering Catholic......
Posted by: rgoalierob on Nov 10, 2008 1:04 PM   
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The Church ought to do something about their perverted priests and hypocritical views on Gays, abortion and War before they enter the political arena.
The government ought to look into whether they should have their "Faith Based Initiative" funds pulled.

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A Feeling Spiritual Superiority
Posted by: ranchero42 on Nov 10, 2008 1:56 PM   
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Arises from overcoming temptation when that opportunity presents itself. What if Jesus asks you: "How can you say you won the battle with temptation when that temptation was removed from the equation through the electoral process or by executive fiat or legislation?" What is it about organized religion that creates a condition in the human race that is so difficult to distinguish from stupidity? How is this a defense against intent to commit hate crimes?

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A Feeling Spiritual Superiority
Posted by: ranchero42 on Nov 10, 2008 1:56 PM   
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Arises from overcoming temptation when that opportunity presents itself. What if Jesus asks you: "How can you say you won the battle with temptation when that temptation was removed from the equation through the electoral process or by executive fiat or legislation?" What is it about organized religion that creates a condition in the human race that is so difficult to distinguish from stupidity? How is this a defense against intent to commit hate crimes?

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Holy warriors
Posted by: YogiBear on Nov 10, 2008 3:51 PM   
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Moderate Catholics ought to get together and hold mock excommunications for Bishops who routinely violate the spirit of Jesus' teachings, such as this fella, who apparently thinks it's his jopb to persecute the gay minority and speak for God by witholding communion from politicans who don't step in line.

How many right-wing politicans had communion held for supporting the unholy war in Iraq? How many?

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» RE: Holy warriors Posted by: Bliss Doubt
How can we complain to the IRS
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Nov 10, 2008 10:35 PM   
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about these a-holes' tax-exempt status? they should have it yanked after this episode.

#@!

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» RE: How can we complain to the IRS Posted by: Bliss Doubt
It is ironic
Posted by: Sissy on Nov 11, 2008 10:39 AM   
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that California whose minorities also went big time for the democrats left their all inclusivness at the door and voted for Prop 8. That vote is coming back to bite the evangelicals and the Mormon's who pushed this misbegotten Proposition, in the butt as well it should.

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Battle plan for all Funkymentalists
Posted by: zipper696 on Nov 12, 2008 1:06 PM   
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It's clear that in order to eradicate all gays from the surface of the Earth, forever a PLAN is needed, here's a suggestion:

Churches to create CVV's (Christian Virgin Volunteers) young, pure men and women who will dedicate their bodies to seducing gays and showing them the superiority of heterosexual intercourse, this will be long and arduous work but will ensure all gays are "cured" in short order.

To further cement the plan, sex education should start in Kindergarten, extolling the virtues of heterosexual sex and having regular sex classes (practical) encouraging lots of consensual heterosexual sex between classmates. Thus, by Junior High the youth of America will be prepared to indulge in obsessive heterosexual sex as frequently as possible and have the option of taking Sex Ed as a major.


*irony warning*

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