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Bipartisan Concern About the Dangers of McPalin’s Hate-Mongering

Posted by Emptywheel, Firedoglake at 3:43 PM on October 10, 2008.


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Former McCain Campaign Chair John Weaver:

 John Weaver, McCain’s former top strategist, said top Republicans have a responsibility to temper this behavior.

“People need to understand, for moral reasons and the protection of our civil society, the differences with Sen. Obama are ideological, based on clear differences on policy and a lack of experience compared to Sen. McCain,” Weaver said. “And from a purely practical political vantage point, please find me a swing voter, an undecided independent, or a torn female voter that finds an angry mob mentality attractive.” 

“Sen. Obama is a classic liberal with an outdated economic agenda. We should take that agenda on in a robust manner. As a party we should not and must not stand by as the small amount of haters in our society question whether he is as American as the rest of us. Shame on them and shame on us if we allow this to take hold.”

Republican advisor David Gergen:

COOPER: There’s also the question of ruling after this, and bringing the country together. It’s going to be all the more harder to do that whoever wins with all this anger out there.

GERGEN: This—I think one of the most striking things we’ve seen now in the last few day. We’ve seen it in a Palin rally. We saw it at the McCain rally today. And we saw it to a considerable degree during the rescue package legislation. There is this free floating sort of whipping around anger that could really lead to some violence. I think we’re not far from that.

COOPER: Really?

GERGEN: I think it’s so—well, I really worry when we get people—when you get the kind of rhetoric that you’re getting at these rallies now. I think it’s really imperative that the candidates try to calm people down. And that’s why I’ve argued not only because of the question of the ugliness of it.

Republican Frank Schaeffer:

John McCain: If your campaign does not stop equating Sen. Barack Obama with terrorism, questioning his patriotism and portraying Mr. Obama as "not one of us," I accuse you of deliberately feeding the most unhinged elements of our society the red meat of hate, and therefore of potentially instigating violence.

[snip]

Stop! Think! Your rallies are beginning to look, sound, feel and smell like lynch mobs.

John McCain, you're walking a perilous line. If you do not stand up for all that is good in America and declare that Senator Obama is a patriot, fit for office, and denounce your hate-filled supporters when they scream out "Terrorist" or "Kill him," history will hold you responsible for all that follows.

John McCain and Sarah Palin, you are playing with fire, and you know it. You are unleashing the monster of American hatred and prejudice, to the peril of all of us. You are doing this in wartime. You are doing this as our economy collapses. You are doing this in a country with a history of assassinations.

Change the atmosphere of your campaign. Talk about the issues at hand. Make your case. But stop stirring up the lunatic fringe of haters, or risk suffering the judgment of history and the loathing of the American people - forever.

We will hold you responsible. 

Retiring GOP Congressman Ray LaHood:

LaHood supports the McCain ticket, but doesn't like what he sees at some of the McCain-Palin rallies: When Barack Obama's name has been mentioned by Sarah Palin, there are shouts of "terrorist," and LaHood says Palin should put a stop to it.

"Look it.  This doesn't befit the office that she's running for.  And frankly, people don't like it."

Congressman LaHood says it could backfire on the Republican ticket.

He says the names that Obama is being called,  "Certainly don't reflect the character of the man." 

Ta-Nehishi Coates:

When the McCain campaign cast the spell of diabolical jingoism, they have no idea of the forces they are toying with. We remember Martin Luther King's murder as a sad and tragic event. Less remembered is the fact that ground-work for King's murder was seeded, not simply by rank white supremacy, but by people who slandered King as a communist.

This was not some notion bandied about by conspiracy theorist, but an accusation proffered by men who were the pillars of the modern Republican Party:

As late as 1964, Falwell was attacking the 1964 Civil Rights Act as "civil wrongs" legislation. He questioned "the sincerity and intentions of some civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., James Farmer, and others, who are known to have left-wing associations." Falwell charged, "It is very obvious that the Communists, as they do in all parts of the world, are taking advantage of a tense situation in our land, and are exploiting every incident to bring about violence and bloodshed."

Falwell was not alone. These men didn't kill Martin Luther King, but they contributed to an atmosphere of nationalism, white supremacy and cheap unreflective patriotism that ultimately got a lot of people killed. Confronted with Aparthied South Africa, men like Helms and Falwell used the same "communist" defense. While Mandella wasted away in prison, they dismissed the whole thing as a communist plot.

Let me be clear--This is the ghost that McCain Campaign is summoning. This is the Ring Of Power that they want to wield.  The Muslim charge, the "Hussein" thing is nothing more than today's red-baiting, and it is what it was then--a cover for racists.

David Frum:

Those who press this Ayers line of attack are whipping Republicans and conservatives into a fury that is going to be very hard to calm after November. Is it really wise to send conservatives into opposition in a mood of disdain and fury for a man who may well be the next president of the United States, incidentally the first African-American president? Anger is a very bad political adviser. It can isolate us and push us to the extremes at exactly the moment when we ought to be rebuilding, rethinking, regrouping and recruiting.

Joe Klein:

But seriously, folks, I'm beginning to worry about the level of craziness on the Republican side, the over-the-top, stampede-the-crowd statements by everyone from McCain on down, the vehemence of the crowds that McCain and Palin are drawing with people shouting "Kill him" and "He's a terrorist" and "Off with his head."

Watch the tape of the guy screaming, "He's a terrorist!" McCain seems to shudder at that, he rolls his eyes... and I thought for a moment he'd admonish the man. But he didn't. And now he's selling the Ayres non-story full-time. Yes, yes, it's all he has. True enough: he no longer has his honor. But we are on the edge of some real serious craziness here and it would be nice if McCain did the right thing and told his more bloodthirsty supporters to go home and take a cold shower.

Digby:

We are entering a turbulent period in our country. Validating a bogus accusation that your political rival is a terrorist in our current environment is the most irresponsible thing I've seen a campaign do in many a year. They know they are very likely going to lose this election. And McCain certainly knows that the main reason he is losing is because of the dramatic failures of fellow failed Republican George W. Bush. But even knowing that his candidacy was always very likely doomed is not stopping him from releasing this poison into the bloodstream of the body politic, a poison which will be with us for a long time to come. I guess that's what McCain means when he says that Americans should fight for a cause greater than themselves. That cause, evidently, is him.

Andrew Sullivan:

McCain and Palin have decided to stoke this rage, to foment it, to encourage paranoid notions that somehow Obama is a "secret" terrorist or Islamist or foreigner. These are base emotions in both sense of the word.

But they are also very very dangerous. This is a moment of maximal physical danger for the young Democratic nominee. And McCain is playing with fire. If he really wants to put country first, he will attack Obama on his policies - not on these inflammatory, personal, creepy grounds. This is getting close to the atmosphere stoked by the Israeli far right before the assassination of Rabin.

For God's sake, McCain, stop it. For once in this campaign, put your country first.

John Sweeney:

Sen. John McCain, Gov. Sarah Palin and the leadership of the Republican party have a fundamental moral responsibility to denounce the violent rhetoric that has pervaded recent McCain and Palin political rallies. When rally attendees shout out such attacks as "terrorist" or "kill him" about Sen. Barack Obama, when they are cheered on by crowds incited by McCain-Palin rhetoric -- it is chilling that McCain and Palin do nothing to object.

Paul Krugman:

The crisis isn’t the only scary thing going on. Something very ugly is taking shape on the political scene: as McCain’s chances fade, the crowds at his rallies are, by all accounts, increasingly gripped by insane rage. It’s not just a mob phenomenon — it’s visible in the right-wing media, and to some extent in the speeches of McCain and Palin.

[snip]

What happens when Obama is elected? It will be even worse than it was in the Clinton years. For sure there will be crazy accusations, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see some violence.

Greg Sargent:

To my knowledge neither McCain nor Palin has uttered a single syllable of protest as their crowds indulged their fear and loathing of Obama. It's hard to overstate how reckless and lacking in leadership this is -- and how dangerous this is, too.

[snip]

But neither McCain nor Palin has taken a single step to do anything like that. Surely that's the big story here.


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Is anyone surprised by this?
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Oct 10, 2008 4:04 PM   
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Really?

jdfu!

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All her talk about guns
Posted by: Iraan Ozono on Oct 10, 2008 4:34 PM   
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Ms. Palin has stimulated my first-ever interest in personal firearms. They seem so fun, and handy!

A Former Pacifist

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McCain changing his tune?
Posted by: badgersprite on Oct 10, 2008 4:56 PM   
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Maybe it comes a little too late to matter, but you do have to give credit to Sen. McCain for addressing this problem, and trying to put a stop to this. At a rally in Wisconsin, he said, about Sen. Obama, "He's a decent person. He's not someone you should be scared about becoming President." I was beyond relieved to hear that.

I like to believe the best about people, and I really don't want to think that the McCain campaign was deliberately inciting aggressive, degrading responses and comments from their crowds. For some people, the damage may have already been done, but, hearing Sen. McCain himself address the issue, I think that's going to have a lot more of an impact on his base than the coverage of these prior, troubling remarks from the audience by the mainstream media.

I hope this isn't just a one-off incident for Sen. McCain; playing nice for a day. It is imperative that they don't continue the abysmally negative slide of the past week, but instead treat their Democratic opponents with the respect they deserve, whether or not they're on stage with them. That said, they really can't leave it at just one rally; they have to maintain a clear, positive message, and endeavour to correct, or at least stifle the worrying attitudes of that small minority of people who exacerbate this fear-mongering to potentially dangerous levels.

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» RE: McCain changing his tune? Posted by: helenahanbasquet
» RE: McCain changing his tune? Posted by: andrushka
» RE: McCain changing his tune? Posted by: gladmueth
George Wallace in Drag
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Oct 10, 2008 10:05 PM   
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The Republican revolution of 1980 to the present was built on subtexts of racism, misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia, religious bigotry, jingoism, militarism and other negative emotional states. Ironically, it is the conservative Christians who respond best to it and have played the essential supporting role in driving our nation to economic, military, foreign relations, constitutional and environmental disaster--the very same people who profess love and compassion. Sarah Palin is George Wallace in drag.

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» RE: George Wallace in Drag Posted by: Earthie
» RE: George Wallace in Drag Posted by: phatkhat
As I have said before, I believe Obama will be assassinated
Posted by: Plexius2 on Oct 11, 2008 1:14 AM   
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before he takes the oath of office or he will be killed while in office. Consider the liberal leaders, Martin Luther King, Jack Kennedy, and Robert Kennedy. Now tell me the name of even one national level leader on the conservative side who has been assasinated. One can argue endlessly that the liberals were killed by liberals even further to the left, or that Reagan was shot (but he was not killed). The proof is in the pudding, people. Liberal leaders are targets and they get killed. I wish it weren't so, but history says that it is. And the neocons McCanus and Palin are doing their best to enrage the conservative whackos with their lying rhetoric. Eventually, one of their gunfreak base supporters will decide to take out Obama, and it will be another tragic day in Amerika, and another nail in the Amerikan coffin, along with all the other troubles we have.

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» You make a chilling point Posted by: socialpsych
» RE: You make a chilling point Posted by: MizuInOz
» RE: You make a chilling point Posted by: socialpsych
» RE: You make a chilling point Posted by: pjnaltykins
» Please Don't Say That... Posted by: Carol Burns
» RE: Please Don't Say That... Posted by: docbets
» RE: the culture war Posted by: Lauren
Imagine...
Posted by: bobtr900 on Oct 11, 2008 4:42 AM   
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...the unhinged all belong to the party of god, the 'Moral Majority, the party of Pro-life and Family Values. I wonder if God, the real God (not GWB, the Pope, Reagan, Hagee, Dobson, etc) knows He is one of them. Maybe Palin will let Him know. I'm a liberal, I'm sure they are convinced that I don't talk to Him, only they do.
I'm being snarky, I know. I'm being sarcastic, I know that too. But these people who own God, the real God, are full of crap. I wonder if they'll ever discover that, probably not, never, ever. Their hypocrisy runs rampant.

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» RE: Imagine... Posted by: Suz
So, McCain Let the Pit Bull Off the Leash
Posted by: Carol Burns on Oct 11, 2008 5:16 AM   
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And she tried to bite someone. McCain chased her, and she led him down a slippery slope (slander), so now he's backpedaling as fast as he can, because up ahead is a cliff. He may just let her go on over the cliff, now that she's been found guilty of ethics violations in her home state, and because she did nothing to stop the violent crowd reactions during her speeches. I think he now knows that things have gotten out of hand, and he appears sincere in defending Obama, but FOX News and right-wing talk radio will continue to fan the flames, and Palin is so simultaneously ambitious and clueless, he may have to dump her. What a conundrum!

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Far-Right-Wing "Christian Taliban" Has Taken Over the GOP -- and It's Too Late for McCain to Cork It
Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Oct 11, 2008 6:11 AM   
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Watching the incredible spectacle on Friday of John McCain finding himself confronted -- to his face -- with the rabid, xenophobic, thinly-disguised racist fascism of the right wing of the Republican Party, in full view of live TV cameras, should sound a loud wake-up call to America that the party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower -- and even Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan -- simply no longer exists.

In its place is a dangerously theocratic, neo-fascist party -- indeed, an apocalyptic "theo-fascist" party -- of "us versus them." A party inherently phobic. Pick your prefix to put in front of "-phobic" -- xeno-, homo-, Islamo-, femi-, Sino-, Judai-, but especially Afro-.

The truth is, these theofascists of Christian ultrafundamentalists have been on the rise in the Republican Party since 9/11. They are the mirror image of the ultrafundamentalist Islamic theofascists of the Taliban, al-Qaida and the mullahs of Iran. Indeed, it's safe to say that the theofascists now dominating the GOP can rightfully be called the "Christian Taliban."

What happened in Minnesota Friday night and at a Sarah Palin rally earlier on Monday was the Christian Taliban finally coming out of the closet.

The stakes in this election cannot be more clear. A vote for McCain is a vote for a theocratic Christian Taliban regime. And that would inevitably mean never-ending war -- not only aborad, but also here at home

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What are the Republican Leaders Saying?
Posted by: curiousdwk on Oct 11, 2008 6:24 AM   
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McCain is not the only Republican leader in the National Republican Committee. Why isn't Repubulican President Bush admonishing McCain and Palin? Why isn't the Republican Chairman Mike Duncan admonishing them? Their silence is just as provocative as the sayings of the lipstick smeared smearing pit bull Palin.

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Can't Control his Small Rallies...Can't control the Country!
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 11, 2008 6:35 AM   
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Another Example Of How John McCain is Unable to LEAD, except over a Cliff!
His irrational, Erradic behavior has Showed Up to ask him questions.
You want to glimpse a McCain Presidency..Watch a Rally. He Can't Even provide a Sound insightful,Cool headedness to the handful of sociopaths at his Rallies
Shit I want McCain's feet dangling next to Cheney's but I don't Yell it at a Rally, I don't even reveal that when I'm canvassing...Because It is NOT How MY Candidate Wants to Run the Campaign...And at those times I am Representing HIM!
Here On the Blogs, I'm representing MYSELF and My Opinions and Thoughts, as my Right to Free Speech. But since MY CANDIDATE Does Not apparently share my Utter OUTRAGE at Mac and the RNC, I will not make him Answer for it!
Mac has got to Know that he just crossed the Threshold of Complicity should Anything happen to Sen Obama...Just Like Hillary took on that 'Cross' when she invoked RFK's assasination 3 times!
In fact if I was Mac or One of his Puppetmasters....I'd be personally paying for Increased Security for Sen Obama.....Becasue the Country Will turn It's accusation AT YOU!
Have No Doubt many on the 'Left' have consider McCain and most the RNC Traitors and Economic,Human Rights and International Terrorist for Decades!
But We would Prefer to watch Their Downfall in slow motion in a Legal Proceeding so it is well document for Posterity! We would Never Assasinate any of these Criminals, We Prefer to slow Roast that Dish called REVENGE!

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This Republican Strategy = Fascism!
Posted by: Old_Guy on Oct 11, 2008 6:43 AM   
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The Fascist thuggery of Palin-McCain is the inevitable consequence of the McCarthy-Cheney-Tom Delay-Bush strain of right wing Republicanism which has been been building since WWII. In my opinion, this election represents a "readjustment" back to the Liberal trend in American politics that existed prior to Reagan because the "Reagan Revolution" inevitably led to the present financial meltdown, a fact that most Americans will understand very clearly in the days ahead. The bully boy thuggery inherent in the Republican Party brand will become obnoxious to an overwhelming majority Americans as they look for commonsense solutions to the country's economic and political problems. Palin-McCain have to resort to old school racism to drive their message because their real policies don't benefit the voters to whom they need to appeal to win. The election will get much uglier, as well as the aftermath when Obama wins, because large predators cornered in a swamp don't give in easily. Eventually, however, they just sink into the frothing muck they've created for themselves.

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» From your lips to God's ear... Posted by: trappedintwilightzone
McCain heard the message
Posted by: signum on Oct 11, 2008 8:24 AM   
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I was listening to McCain's rally in MN last night on MPR. Even though I disagreed with almost everything he said in his speech, I was glad to hear that he defended Obama at several occasions.

see also
McCain campaigns for Obama at McCain event? by Jimmy Orr

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IT'S ALL TOO SCRIPTED
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 11, 2008 8:36 AM   
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So Palin and her spooky followers freak out and John comes to the rescue. The guy who claimed to be "angry" was planted. In a country where people are arrested for wearing the wrong tee shirt does anyone really yell out "kill him"? Not unless they know they're covered. I mean this is taser time. This is theater designed to make McCain look as thought he really cares. I mean Obama is a "decent guy" he chastised the audience. I'm not convinced that McCain is one bit sincere. And "Nanook of the North" is doing exactly as she's told. So Obama bought 1/2 hour of prime time on TV, I assume to set things straight and share his plan with us. He just won't be reduced to the mud wrestling event that defines the McCain campaign. He is a decent guy. Thanks, ANNA

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In likeness to the Bush regime
Posted by: Pop on Oct 11, 2008 12:30 PM   
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Palin/McCain's hate tactics are not yet near as extreame and destructive as lies and distortions the Bush Regime has done in the past 7 plus war years. The GOP and the rabid democrat Blue Dogs that support the Bush tyranny, have our troops killing and dying in the Middle East where there was never a proven reason other than lust for power and wealth and we never belonged. There is very much evidence that the terror of 9-11 was likely a covert US Government operation similair to the Northwoods false flagg attemptin the early 1960s to likewise terrorize the people of the US into war with Cuba. The 9-11 scam got us the Authoritarian Government "Patriot Act" as well as terrorizing the US people into the invasions into the Middle East. I am convinced that the Terror we experienced on Sept 11, 2001, was that of High Treason and outright murder.

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If violence breaks out....
Posted by: manderson on Oct 11, 2008 12:45 PM   
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...it will be from the CONSERVATIVES, not the liberals.

And, WHEN it happens, watch the 1st Brigade from Iraq AND Blackwater AND police stand down, and even aid and abet the violence against mostly innocent people, as well as those who openly (but nonviolently) oppose or disagree with this Corporatist Regime.

The other thing is, watch the violence against ANYONE of color who gets in their way.

This is what Goering promised the German people if they won WW2----a day of retribution on those who opposed them. Thank God it didn't happen then....but this is America, where Fascism comes wrapped in a flag and carrying a sword.

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» RE: If violence breaks out.... Posted by: Plexius2
Watch People's Faces...
Posted by: djnoll on Oct 11, 2008 2:12 PM   
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Here in the land of the free, you will now see fear and anger and hate. And that bitch from Alaska is using her winks and her innuendos to drive these emotions to murder and civil war. John McCain is a toothless old man who could no more stop this insanity his handlers and their pet Northern Wolverine if he wanted to. He was a coward and a bully, and when push comes to shove, he is nothing more than that now. And if anyone is scared, it is John McCain - you saw it in his face when he heard the crowds boo him!

I have read the postings here today, and the condemnation is fair because we are a nation under siege at the moment, and we need to work within our communities to calm people down. While I am recommending people work to calm their neighbors fears about the economy, I am also now going to encourage you to prepare for civil war. These crowds that Palin is fomenting to murder will soon spill into the streets, and you must be able to protect yourself. If you are registering voters or campaigning, do not go out alone after dark or into neighborhoods where you might find yourself isolated. If you have signs on your lawn or stickers on your cars, decide whether you feel safe with them showing your support for Obama - and remove them if you do not. Do not make yourself a target of these Republican/Nazi nutjobs!

John McCain is incapable of putting the Genie back in the Bottle again. The Theocratic Nazis of the Republican party are making their move now, and Palin's job is solely to drive the crowds into the level of violence and into the streets reminiscent of 1933 Germany. Watch her face - you will see a power hungry NAZI whose face is a reflection of Hitler's and Goebbel's. Then look at McCain's now - it is frightened, lost, confused and angry that he is now impotent and incapable.

If this election is stolen - and I truly hope it is not - by the Republicans, we must be prepared for a new nation that will be so unfamiliar to the rest of the world that we will be in danger. For those who can afford to leave, prepare now if you have a family member who has disabilities of any kind; who is an academic; who has been an activist on any social issue; who has been a community organizer; and if you are a Muslim, Hispanic, Catholic, any non-Christian, or a new immigrant from anywhere in the Middle East. These will be the first groups targeted for round-up. If you cannot afford to leave, prepare to defend your homes and your communities as unified, organized groups because you will be going up against trained troops and you will need to be overwhelming in your numbers.

Watch people's faces, and watch out for your own safety into the future, and pray that Obama wins and lives to take office. Otherwise, watch people's faces, and try to remain calm. Obama was right - anxiety feeds on anxiety, fear feeds on fear. We must work together to find answers, and we can only find them within our selves and our communities - the Federal Government is not our friend!

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» You are right on, dj, but... Posted by: trappedintwilightzone
» Exactly Posted by: Timba
Suval
Posted by: suval on Oct 11, 2008 2:23 PM   
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For over a week now I have been asking this question: Where is the Jutice Dept/Office of Civil Rights? Because of the level of hate and frenzy at the McCain and Palin rallies,I think the JD should be in attendance. They need to observe and get a handle on the extremists and racists and the way the crowd is being whipped into turmoil by Palin and McCain. Their language is incindiary and it is,in my opinion,intended to put fear into the hearts of those in attendance.It is hateful and it is racist.It is dangerous.

There is also a serious problem with the labeling of Ayers as a Terrorist. We do not have to condone Ayers but he was never labeled a terrorist by the US Authorities. He was a 60's Radical. The issues were different then. Our government could not convict him and had to free him. He is technically NOT A TERRORIST and the even bigger lie is that Obama pals around with terrorists. If there were Justice in politics, someone would be filing SLANDER suits against Gov Palin. McCain and Palin would do well to practice a new motto: Tell the truth and tell it straight.Leave out the hate and racism.

Lastly,the Palin rhetoric reminds me of the redneck attitudes we often see in Alaska. It may have contributed to her popularity there but it will not serve us well at the National level. The way she makes up stories and calls people names reminds me of the McCarthy Era. That was a dispicable period in our history where peoeple's lives were destroyed because of lables.We need to get a handle on this NOW. If McCain and Palin do not have the good sense to do this then those in their own Party should have the decency to put pressure on them to bring about change.

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» RE: Suval Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Slander Posted by: Lauren
Terrytom They know exactly what they are doing.
Posted by: terryton on Oct 11, 2008 3:52 PM   
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Don’t be fooled, they know exactly what they are doing. Palin is surely sociopath just like Bush.
Some of these rethugnicans are trying to cover their asses yet they are ALL WAR MONGERS AND TORTURERS they can’t claim otherwise. I have watched them and their policies for years and came up with my three C’s postulate. They thrive on and always do conflict which leads to fear and control and finally conquest. Naomi Klein advances the theory and demonstrates it well in her book Shock Doctrine. The right wing is simply scum. Now so many democrats have joined the Fascist Conversion of America we are lost. I’m a liberal but not too peaceful. I’m not for gun control as this is already ugly. The camps are prepared, Blackwater is trained, the constitution is null and void, the courts are loaded, the Posse Comitatus Act is essentially suspended and the hate mongering is progressing. I’ve demonstrated and prayed to bring our troops home at once. Now I’m not so sure as they will be turned on us. God forgive America.

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Do not muddy the water, you may have to drink it soon
Posted by: mhhensel on Oct 11, 2008 5:56 PM   
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What is especially disturbing to me is when people in authority give tacit permission for people to hate. People like Rush Limbaugh give people the hate words to say and make it acceptable for them to say them. Right wing religious leaders make it acceptable for people to hate anyone different and call it their religious beliefs.
Palin implied that Obama was a terrorists and incited the crowd to the point where people were yelling "kill him"and called it politics. It doesn't take much "permission" for a person in authority to let the hate lose in a hateful person. It isn't much of a step for these hateful people to act upon their new found permission to hate. The "lid' needs to be kept on these hateful people by everyone in authority. Palin and McCain came close to breaking the law for inciting violence. If they take this any futher and continue to step over the line, they should be arrested. They certainly deserve scorn heaped upon them and that is happening. Fortunately, McCain finally objected and started to uphold some semblence of respect for Obama today. Obama has said from the start to not go negative. . People keep urging Obama to attack in kind and lower himself to the gutter politics of the Republicans. People say that if he doesn't he will lose. Obama rejects this notion and urges everone in the campaign to not go there. Many are guilty of violating this rule because it is hard to follow and still defend oneself. There is a delicate balance between tolerance and intolerance. Intolerance leads to outright