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Will There Be a Florida Democratic Primary Do-Over?

Posted by Richard Blair, The All Spin Zone at 2:13 PM on March 3, 2008.


This has been the weirdest presidential primary season in memory, so nothing is outside the realm of possibility at this point.
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As those who follow this kind of stuff are well aware, the DNC stripped Michigan and Florida of their delegates to the Democratic Party convention as a penalty for moving up the state primaries. Hillary Clinton won both primaries decisively, in what was essentially a "straw vote", since neither state can seat its delegates (as things stand now).

Interesting enough, with the nomination hanging in the balance, and the talking heads chattering that if Clinton can't win both Ohio and Texas tomorrow she should quit the race, Florida governor Charlie Crist has thrown a bit of a monkey wrench into the works. He says he's willing to give the Dems a do-over vote in the Sunshine State:

Florida Governor Charlie Crist said he'd support a repeat of the Democratic presidential primary so the state's delegates can be counted at the party's national convention.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said he's open to the possibility. Primary elections are paid for by a state's taxpayers, so the offer from Crist, a Republican, is "very helpful" because money is an issue, Dean said.

"We're very willing to listen to the people of Florida," Dean said on CNN's "Late Edition" ...

It's curious that DNC Chairman Dean would make such a comment, and not dismiss the offer outright.

It will be interesting to see if Michigan follows suit with the offer from Florida. While Sen. Clinton won a plurality of the vote in Michigan, her numbers came in at the time the vote was held because she was the only top tier candidate on the ballot. Neither Clinton or Sen. Obama were allowed, by DNC mandate, to campaign in Florida.

With the Pennsylvania primary still waiting in the wings, and the open question of Michigan and Florida still on the table, maybe the vote tomorrow in Texas and Ohio won't carry quite as much weight.

But who knows. This has been the weirdest presidential primary season in memory, so nothing is outside the realm of possibility at this point.

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No, no, no, no, no!!
Posted by: jpopphan@charter.net on Mar 3, 2008 2:13 PM   
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It's over. It's done. No do-overs.

If the Democratic voters of Florida are pissed off that their primary vote was a waste of time, then they need to take it up with the leadership of the Florida Democratic Party and shake things up a bit.

The Florida Democratic Party knew full well what it would mean if they moved up the state's primary date. They went ahead and did it anyway. Ditto Michigan.

Democrats in Florida and Michigan will indeed be able to vote in the general election in November, but they should not be allowed a "do-over" to get around the penalty placed on them by the national party.

And to be honest, I don't believe that Gov. Crist's offer is meant to help Democrats but rather to help Republicans. Think of the propaganda they can spin on this. "Democrats hate democracy."

Sorry, FL and MI but this year you're outta luck. Do what you can to change your party's leadership and avoid a repeat next time around.

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» RE: No, no, no, no, no!! Posted by: foreverhope
Then the DNC needs to decide quickly...
Posted by: arieden on Mar 3, 2008 2:21 PM   
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Then the DNC needs to decide quickly and Florida needs to make it happen SOON. The same deal should be offered to Michigan and they need to move quickly as well. If things don't happen fast this primary campaign will drag on forever.
This also means that if Hillary (and I support her) were inclined to concede after a poor showing in TX and OH, she may not be able to with MI and FL still in play.

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Posted by: sui_generis on Mar 3, 2008 2:30 PM   
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I CANNOT BELIEVE people are falling for the Clinton machine's bullshit. If Clinton doesn't win both Ohio and Texas tomorrow, the race is over. So who cares about Michigan and Florida???!

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» Clinton does. Posted by: seilnotnilc
It's political gamble
Posted by: RobNLA on Mar 3, 2008 10:19 PM   
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Pretty simple to see through this.
The Republican governor doesn't care if Democrats get a primary vote in Florida. Instead, he just wanted to stir the pot.

But Howard Dean didn't take the bait. He said, sure if the state pays for it like it usually does, then why not have a do over that counts?

But they both know there is not enough time or money to pull this off properly. Florida is a swing state and they each want the votes to favor their party.

As far as Clinton goes regarding this, at this point she is just reaching hard for any way to collect some delegates and legitimize her run for the nomination.

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Jeanna
Posted by: jeanna on Mar 4, 2008 11:00 AM   
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This would bring an end to any hopes of a democratic victory in November. And in fact might bring an end to the democratic party.

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This is BS
Posted by: NeilDeal on Mar 6, 2008 9:43 AM   
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Whoever decided to change the primary dates needs to be punished. They screwed their citizens out of a chance to choose their Democratic candidate. If the states are now allowed to revote, they will unfairly influence the election process. What Florida and Michigan need to do is to punish the people who put them in this predicament.

I'm tired of hearing about politicians weaseling out of messes that they've created. They did this. The people of those states should do some house cleaning and get on with their lives.

The citizens could have raised hell when the decision was initially made to change the dates, but they didn't. After hearing about the prospective consequences for doing this, they could have stormed the streets in protest. But they didn't.

The people who want to do a revote after the fact are the ones who want to sway the election in their favor. Sure it's not fair for the citizens of those states, but is it fair to the rest of the nation to allow these people to now sway the results of the election?

Both candidates initially agreed not to campaign in Florida, but then Hillary Clinton went back on her word. Now she is urging that the states do a revote. How will will this be a fair election? Obama decided to respect the DNC's decision, and left it at that. He would be in-veritably punished by the voters for that decision.

That would be one heck of an imbalanced contest.

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