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Michael Moore Dares to Ask: What's So Heroic About Being Shot Down While Bombing Innocent Civilians?

Posted by Liliana Segura, AlterNet at 11:35 AM on August 21, 2008.


Like Iraq, Vietnam was not a noble cause. It's time we stopped letting politicians and the press perpetuate the McCain War Hero myth.
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Confession: I have not yet read all six (short, illustrated, large type) chapters of Mike's Election Guide 2008, Michael Moore's, latest work of jaunty political opinion. Am I supposed to discuss it with him on "Meet the Bloggers" tomorrow? Yes. But I'm not worried. It's a breezy read, has already made me laugh out loud, and besides, I may have already found the best part in Chapter One.

The title is "Ask Mike!" and, in it, ordinary voters, old and young, pose questions about politics and current events. Some are more serious than others ("If Iran has weapons of mass destruction, we should invade, right?"), which does not make Moore's answers any more subtle. ("Excuuuuuse me? Did you say the words, 'weapons of mass destruction?' Take it back. I SAID TAKE IT BACK!") Of course, the "questions" are really satirical jabs at the media -- "When a Republican wears a little American flag lapel pin, what is he trying to say?" "If Obama can't bowl, can he govern?" -- but there's one in particular that is worth paying attention to -- especially if you happen to be a member of the press and have been utterly unwilling to take McCain's supporters and opponents alike to task for perpetuating a narrative that would be central to a McCain victory, and which has already become a dominant theme in this election: The McCain as War Hero canard.

The "question" is posted thusly:

"Why did the Vietnamese shoot down John McCain and put him in prison for five years? He seems like such a nice guy."

ANSWER: I'm guessing, in spite of his anger management issues, he is a nice guy. He has devoted his life to this country. He was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice in the defense of our nation. And for that, he was tortured and then imprisoned in a North Vietnamese POW camp for nearly five-and-a-half years.

That's the set-up. It gets better. Moore proceeds, not to question, as Wesley Clark recently did to so many shrieks of criticism, whether McCain's capture really makes him qualified to be president of the United States -- the answer, any thinking person realizes, is "no" -- but whether the Vietnam war was a conflict that can really be said to have produced the breed of "American hero" McCain is so often celebrated as.

"Sadly," he writes, "McCain's sacrifice had nothing to do with protecting the United States. He was sent to Vietnam along with hundreds of thousands of others in an attempt to prop up what was essentially an American colony, South Vietnam, which was being run by a dictator whom we installed."

Lest we forget, the Vietnam War represented a mass slaughter by the United States government on a scale that sought to rival our genocide of the Native Americans. The U.S. Armed Forces killed more than two million civilians in Vietnam (and perhaps another million in Laos and Cambodia). The Vietnamese had done nothing to us. They had not bombed or invaded or even sought to murder a single American. President Johnson and the Pentagon lied to Congress in order to get a vote passed to put the war in full gear. Only two senators had the guts to vote "no."

But the parallel between Iraq and Vietnam is not the only point Moore is making. He makes it personal.

John McCain flew 23 bombing missions over North Vietnam in a campaign called Operation Rolling Thunder. During this bombing campaign, which lasted for almost 44 months, U.S. forces flew 307,000 attack sorties, dropping 643,000 tons of bombs on North Vietnam (roughly the same tonnage dropped in the Pacific during all of World War II). Though the stated targets were factories, bridges, and power plants, thousands of bombs also fell on homes, schools, and hospitals. In the midst of the campaign, Defense Secretary Robert McNamara estimated that we were killing 1,000 civilians a week. That's more than one 9/11 every single month -- for 44 months.

What's not heroic about that? Is it any wonder all politicians speaking in public about John McCain are required to preface their remarks with a fawning admiration for his war service?

Alas, McCain does have some regrets about Vietnam. As Moore points out, in his memoir Faith of Our Fathers, McCain called it "illogical" and "senseless" that he was limited to bombing only military targets.

"I do believe," McCain wrote, "that had we taken the war to the North and made full, consistent use of air power in the North, we ultimately would have prevailed."

In other words, McCain believes we could have won the Vietnam War had he been able to drop even more bombs.

When McCain was shot down, on October 26, 1967, he was busy bombing what he would describe as a "heavily populated part of Hanoi."

What follows is a a rather entertaining passage in which Moore then asks what you would do to a man who "fell out of the sky" after dropping bombs on you or your children. But the most important question comes at the end:

John McCain is already using the Vietnam War in his political ads. In doing so, it makes not just what happened to him in Vietnam fair game for discussion, but also what he did to the Vietnamese … I would like to see one brave reporter during the election season ask this simple question of John McCain: "Is it morally right to drop bombs and missiles in a 'heavily populated' area where hundreds, if not thousands, of civilians will perish?"

Of course, no member of the "mainstream" media is going to ask John McCain that question. (And given his famous quips on "Bomb-bomb-bomb-ing Iran" or, when asked to comment on the U.S. exporting cigarettes to the country, on the speculation that "Maybe that's a way of killing them,", the answer may be too disturbing to bear.) Regardless, this is the same press that obligingly calls McCain a "maverick" and McCain's campaign bus the "Straight-talk Express." Going after his war hero credentials? Why, that would be ... un-American.

Luckily, in the absence of an effective media -- or one that takes its cues from Michael Moore -- there are some people who are uniquely qualified to ask tough questions about the war hero John McCain, and they can't all be considered "surrogates" for Barack Obama. One of them is a man named Phillip Butler, who, on AlterNet today, has an article whose point, really, is laid out in the title:

I Spent Years as a POW with John McCain, and His Finger Should Not Be Near the Red Button

Originally published on Military.com, it's a scathing, point-by-point indictment of McCain that punctures the war hero mythology he has so successfully insulated himself in.

It is part fact-check ("Was he tortured for 5 years? No. He was subjected to torture and maltreatment during his first 2 years, from September of 1967 to September of 1969"), part much-needed perspective ("Because John's father was the Naval Commander in the Pacific theater, he was exploited with TV interviews while wounded. These film clips have now been widely seen. But it must be known that many POW's suffered similarly, not just John. And many were similarly exploited for political propaganda"). But perhaps its most compelling characteristic is that it is written by a former POW of a misbegotten war, who has seen the death and destruction firsthand, and who is fearful of what McCain would do as commander in chief. "I can verify that John has an infamous reputation for being a hot head. He has a quick and explosive temper that many have experienced first hand. Folks, quite honestly that is not the finger I want next to that

red button."

Now that's a quote. Maybe it's time for a new 3 AM ad.

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Liliana Segura is a staff writer and editor of AlterNet's Rights and Liberties and War on Iraq Special Coverage.


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The Question?
Posted by: TomTom on Aug 21, 2008 12:25 PM   
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I was wondering if someone would ever ask the question: “what is so heroic about participating in genocide?” If anything McCain, even though he does not act like it, was a victim of the brutal, imperial American foreign policy; not a hero! I realize that this question will never be raised by the Democrats for practical reasons; no one wants to rehash the old war most people forgot about, or were not around to be influenced by it in the first place. I certainly do not expect anyone in MSM to ask it, it would take guts and that is not what McCain’s campaign had in mind when they implied that special access to the candidate will be granted to those reporters “who work for it” ; and judging by the coverage, they are working very hard. LOL. I imagine, if asked, McCain would say: “They were Godless communists my friends; they deserved to be bombed, bombed, bombed!”

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This is treading into dangerous water....
Posted by: CatDad on Aug 21, 2008 12:48 PM   
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Keep the focus on the corruption, cronyism, and economic stagnation during the GOP reign of the last seven years...and remind voters of their heartless/callous government response during the Katrina disaster....
Democrats: stop the flip-flopping, stop the opinion poll driven policy shifts and grow a spine...Attacking McCain's war record will probably backfire..and it will keep the the focus off the core/real issues. Progressives already know that the Vietnam War as a monstrous demonstration of the worst form of American imperialism and hubris....a war that killed millions in SE Asia...with the results still being felt today from Agent Orange....

Honestly, if any pilot from a foreign nation that was dropping bombs and napalm on American cities was shot down here....do you think that he would be treated well by the American military...perhaps the US military would get him a condo in Palm Springs and serve him French Croissants for breakfast every day??? I think not....McCain's capture and torture was probably a typical response/reaction from any nation experiencing this sort of aerial attack by a foreign power..

Yet, the war in Vietnam has been subject to historical revisionism....and now it was a "noble" cause...and McCain was just doing his duty....It's too late to change this perception in three months

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the politics of death
Posted by: solrev on Aug 21, 2008 12:51 PM   
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We shot down your million dollar plane and we have your pilot, na na na na na. It must have been nice in Nam to be of political value. Out in the bush a lot of wounded grunts were not worth food, water, meds, or even a bullet. They did not get to go to the Hanoi Hilton; they got a club or a rock and got to go MIA. There were 58000 plus heroes in Nam, the rest of us were just lucky, and some were luckier than others were. It is nice to make moral judgements about war, but when you are there, there are only two kinds of people the quick and the dead. Governments can’t live with them and you can’t live with out them.

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He wasn't tortured
Posted by: Guster4321 on Aug 21, 2008 12:56 PM   
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Of course, something else we ought to remember is that according to the Bush Administration John McCain wasn't tortured. Their definitions of "enhanced interrogations" are much worse than what happened to John McCain, and that's not considered torture. i.e. John McCain was not tortured in Vietnam. He was held as a prisoner of war, and that's it. Oh yeah, and that doesn't qualify him to be the President either.

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bragging rights are not heroic
Posted by: luzmejor on Aug 21, 2008 1:57 PM   
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It seems to me that the propaganda machine has picked out the "hero" who failed his mission and ignored all the rest when they talk about McCain.

He already has had plenty of rewards and no apparent censure at all.

That goes for Dubya too. What our current crop of hangers-on at the American Royal Court really admire is an ability for their "idols" to make them rich quickly, by whatever crooked means possible.

Of course the American people are going to require something much different from their candidates. What they look for is someone who knows what religion and ethics actually are and how to live their lives with a sense of true morality and integrity.

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Google: "POW/MIA THE McCAIN FACTOR"
Posted by: kirkmuse on Aug 21, 2008 1:59 PM   
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Google:
"POW/MIA The McCain Factor."

I suggest that you view all of the videos, especially the video titled:
"1992 Senate Select Committee on POW'MIAs: The McCain Factor."
Notice that these are not Liberal Democrats
speaking about McCain, but rather very Conservative Republicans.

This is more persuasive
than 100 pro-Obama ads.

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Google: "POW/MIA THE McCAIN FACTOR"
Posted by: kirkmuse on Aug 21, 2008 1:59 PM   
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Google:
"POW/MIA The McCain Factor."

I suggest that you view all of the videos, especially the video titled:
"1992 Senate Select Committee on POW'MIAs: The McCain Factor."
Notice that these are not Liberal Democrats
speaking about McCain, but rather very Conservative Republicans.

This is more persuasive
than 100 pro-Obama ads.

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A noun, a verb and P.O.W.
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Aug 21, 2008 2:17 PM   
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That quip (about 9/11) had more to do with sinking Guiliani (thanks Biden) than any other factor, IMO.

Time to recycle it.

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McCain voters are unlikely to be swayed
Posted by: g on Aug 21, 2008 3:59 PM   
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I would know: I live in Lubbock TX (enough said). I fight them on a daily basis in the "comment" section of the local paper. Heck, McCain could be caught raping a toddler and he'd get away with it because he's a true patriot.
I think Mike More, for once, is absolutely right. But I also don't think any good is going to come out of reminding people that McCain was not doing anything patriotic or worthwhile in Vietnam. McCain voters are the same people who think that anyone the President calls a bad guy is in fact a bad guy, and that with bad guys you gotta be tough or they'll come to your home, steal your SUV, rape your wife and forbid Christmas (i.e. kill the American way of life). No one is likely to be swayed by this argument. This being said, yes, McCain is a mass murderer, a worthy successor to our resident mass murderer. And there is a reasonable chance that he'll win the elections because people will vote him because Obama is intent on giving more Americans health care (gasp!), is black (double gasp!), and his middle name is Hussein (triple, quadruple gasp!). And if you think about it he probably counts as an anchor baby.
This is the most persuasive argument against democratic elections I have heard in a long time. What's the point if the result is the same as in a dictatorship?
Sorry. I am sooo depressed.

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Similarities between the Vietnam action and the Genocide of American Natives
Posted by: Farsay on Aug 21, 2008 6:14 PM   
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Moore makes the point that the actions in Vietnam were similar to our genocide of Native Americans. While this is true to a point, the two processes are of different levels.

The first level of state violence (which is really class violence) is pure force; i.e., the wealthy get the US Army to send cavalry regiments to slaughter buffalo on the Great Plains to eliminate people who rely on them for food, shelter, and clothing.

The next level is something like what happened in South Vietnam: industrialists use the CIA to subvert locals with bribes and threats, turning the underclass in a former colony against itself, and then use the American underclass to fight a guerilla war against resisters.

We are witnessing an even higher level of attack right now in China: the captains of industry know they have sunk the US economy, so they are using what little remains of our national treasure to buy themselves Chinese stock and currency, amounting to an inflationary tax on the poor and middle class.

So, while Moore hits home with his analogy, I think there is a lot of room for a more nuanced approach that could be even more effective in debates about the broader issues arising from discussions of McCain's role in the military.

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We're sunk!
Posted by: georgiaorwell on Aug 22, 2008 12:36 AM   
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It seemed really crazy for McCain to be the candidate in 08, but maybe his being promoted as a 'war hero' was the best the GOP could do to take on O. Why?Well, it seems to be working as a ruse. It seems that mainstream America could care less about the disingenuous nature of politics and the lies, liars, and the lying they do.

It's pathetic how uninformed the American public is overall about European affairs, their own government, geography, history, grammar, etc. Thank Buddha for Michael Moore's willingness to fight the good fight against the ignorance the US has become. For such a military/corporate nation, the people have been the basic matrix for their tactics. Could McC be any less capable as a candidate? He seems to be a bully - hating women's reproductive rights and treating his wife like she's dirt. Forget also about the environment - he could care less about alternative energy and infrastructure. Why should he - he's beyond rich and definitely shows signs of early dementia. The GOP must be laughing itself sick - that Americans are buying in to this NON-HERO.

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It's not how McCain behaved while a POW but what he said afterwards
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 22, 2008 1:13 AM   
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Being a registered Republican since 1956 who disliked the Bush family intensely, I supported Senator McCain's run for the White House during the 2000 GOP primaries.

I praised John in my 2004 self-published book, George Dub-ya Bush, THE PHONY FIGHTER PILOT, created a pro-McCain Web site to help boost his 2008 candidacy and attended a fundraising dinner for the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, not far from my home, because he was the keynote speaker.

My admiration for McCain ended in May 2008, when I began investigating rumors about his so-called heroic war record. That's when I learned the truth about McCain -- that it's not how he behaved while a POW but what he said afterwards.

Consider McCain's suggestion on the campaign trail that by refusing an earlier release from North Vietnam, he demonstrated bravery worthy of admiration.

The truth is, McCain was ordered by his American POW camp commander NOT to accept early release.

Furthermore, had he come home before other POWs who'd been in captivity longer, McCain's family would have been humiliated and his Navy career ruined.

So why does he continuously claim his "decision" to remain in North Vietnam indicates valor when it doesn't?

Simple answer. Unfit McCain is a pandering politician, not a principled patriot.

Case closed on his "heroic" POW record.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam veteran (for the benefit of new AlterNet visitors)
Seven reasons to vote against Unfit McCain

PS: If you agree with this comment, please email it to five people who want REAL change in America and ask them to do the same.

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Funny idea for a 3am ad
Posted by: cjones21 on Aug 22, 2008 1:34 AM   
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Phone rings at 3am.

John McCain: "No one calls me at 3am... for chrissake..."

Phone: "Hello... President Obama? Oh! Sorry! wrong number."

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McPain more of the SAME! McPain/BU__! SH__! what's the difference?
Posted by: williameon on Aug 22, 2008 2:12 AM   
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John McPain went to Viet Nam
Rained bombs out of the Sky.
Became the Hanoi Candidate
Came back to the States and
Preached more WAR
Did he learn from his mistakes?
NO!
McPain more of the same.
BU__! SH__!
The never ending river of SH-T that comes out of
Carl Roves lips.

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Soldier Worship
Posted by: synx on Aug 22, 2008 2:20 AM   
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It really cheeses me off how much people worship soldiers and the machinery of war. To me it's like everyone's rallying in the streets with parades and flags to honor the noble sacrifice of plumbers cleaning our drain or sanitation engineers taking out the garbage can. Being a soldier sucks, and it isn't very helpful to other people either. Truly plumbers and garbagemen are much greater life savers than a soldier ever could be. I don't give someone a medal for being a murderer, so why should I beam and smile when they murdered not of their own volition, but in blind obedience to the state? Way to go morons!

Basically we become soldiers because we are forced to. Some terrible horrible danger requires that we pick up firearms and use lethal force against our fellow man. It's terrible, horrible, a rotten lousy job. It's a last resort. Being a soldier means you have failed at basic civilization, failed at basic humanity, and you have no recourse other than to try and solve the problem with bullets and threats. That's when we should become soldiers, not in the USA where people commit those atrocities just for the fun of it. Should we be proud of ourselves when we go to war? No! We should be ashamed!

I feel sympathy for wounded war veterans and all, but it doesn't take much smarts to figure out that as a soldier your government's going to use you, ruin you, and toss you out like an old torn rag. If you didn't realize this and fight against it, then you screwed up, and I've got other people to help who are in trouble from little fault of their own. Next you'll be asking me to give aid to people who maxed out their credit cards, instead of the honestly destitute?

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Symantics...
Posted by: Elmowilcox on Aug 22, 2008 2:33 AM   
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It's all language. Heroes are heroes because they shined through in the most perilous of times(couldn't make that more vague, could I?). They're all victims of circumstance. Like the guy above said, in war, you're quick or dead. Most heroes don't do what they did to be a hero. Heroes don't like to be recognized as heroes, and often contend they aren't. Heroes definitely do not go around advertising themselves as such. More often than not, the media covers the person in a flag when they get home to bolster recruiting figures or a politician's ambitions, when the soldier can't bear to think about or begin to relate wtf they just had to go through, and absolutely would not do again in a million years. McCain wears and relates what should be a horribly traumatic experience like a freakin badge(or perhaps a campaign gimmick, no?). My Dad was on one of those swift boats in Nam, patrolling the rivers. The gunners to his front and rear "liked to pass out on opium and heroine in the dead blackness of night" just in time for 100's of enemy tracer rounds to start flying at him from both sides. This happened about 3 or 4 times a week. You want fear, experience? What's McCain got on that? A guy called my Dad a hero after hearing about his service in Nam, and my Dad broke his jaw in half. I wouldn't elect my Dad president if you paid me. You're not a hero because you fought in a war, whether you volunteered or were drafted. You're a hero if your buddy fighting next to you got his legs blown off and rather than run, you carried him out on your back. You're not a hero because you volunteered for service to pay for school and wound up shot in the head, you're unlucky and made arguably bad decisions. You're a hero because you fell on the grenade to save your unit, but you also are inconsiderate of your family and friends. Suicide is still suicide even when it's sacrifice.
Pilots carpet bombing from thousands of feet in the air are never heroes, in my opinion. Air Force is military for dirty boxing. Fighting people that ride bicycles and don't have shoes... with jetplanes and bombs, that's fair, real brave. If you listened to the media, every damn American soldier in the field or otherwise is a freakin hero, and by our use of it these days, so are all the people our 300,000 heroes are shooting at and getting blown up by. It's sickening and dilutes the meaning of the term. We really need to reel-in use of this word.

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