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Is Obama's 'Major' Health Care Announcement Just a Bunch of Bull?

Posted by David Sirota, Open Left at 9:33 AM on May 11, 2009.


Touting the industry's "voluntary" commitment to not rip off consumers seems more in the appeasing camp than in the "real change" camp.

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So the big news today is President Obama's press conference with the health insurance industry touting the industry's "voluntary" commitment to slashing $2 trillion off Americans' health care bills over the next decade. The New York Times reports that this voluntary announcement is motivated by the health insurance industry's "hope to stave off new government price constraints that might be imposed by Congress or a National Health Board of the kind favored by many Democrats."

My three questions are really simple:

1) If the health industry is saying it can lower costs by $2 trillion over 10 years and remain highly profitable, isn't the industry admitting that it was planning to absolutely bilk consumers, and has been bilking consumers in the past? Put another way, isn't the industry admitting that it's entire business model is based on outright profiteering?

2) Why should the American public believe the health industry is going to voluntarily do anything to cut into its profits? Health executives have a fiduciary responsibility to private shareholders to maximize profits. Voluntarily lowering those profits would violate that fiduciary responsibility. Are we really expected to believe these health executives will, out of the goodness of their hearts, violate their fiduciary responsibilities? What has actually changed to suggest that they will violate their fiduciary responsibilities and help health care consumers?

3) Isn't President Obama legitimizing voices that will use that added credibility later on to try to derail serious health care reform? Today's press conference has the President of the United States effectively saying that the health insurance industry should have a major seat at the health-reform table - and that it should be trusted. But any serious health care reform will need to take on the health insurance industry in a way that will make that industry unhappy. When that eventually happens, won't the previous efforts to legitimize the health insurance industry's voice add credibility to its opposition to reform? I think so, and agree with Ezra Klein who says, "The fact that the White House is making a big deal of [the health industry's] support means" the White House is suggesting that it "would be a big deal if they lost it."

Look, I have no problem with the industry making voluntary commitments about lowering costs - and if it follows through, then that's great. But I also have no illusion about industries making voluntary commitments to reduce their profits - those commitments usually aren't worth the paper they're written on. And so I worry that promoting such commitments as "major" can be politically dangerous and, frankly, counterproductive.

Obama's political calculus throughout his life has been to avoid making enemies. He seems to believe that he can make lots of different interests happy - and on many issues, that's certainly possible. But on some issues, like health care, it's a binary fight: Either you appease the health industry and preserve the status quo they are making big bucks off of, or you take on the health industry and make real change. Touting the industry's "voluntary" commitment to not rip off consumers seems more in the appeasing camp than in the "real change" camp.

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Posted by: oregoncharles on May 11, 2009 10:11 AM   
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Of course it's appeasement. Where do you think O. got all that campaign money? From people who'd been bankrupted by the "health" industry?

This, at the same time the Dems in Congress snicker at the single-payer activists being arrested in their committee hearing, at their behest.

Face reality: this is what the Democratic Party is FOR. They're there to serve corporate interests at our expense. They're just more charming about it and speak in complete sentences.

You can keep being scammed by the Corporate Party, under whichever name, or you can come on over and try something new:

www.gp.org

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:-)
Posted by: jstepp590 on May 11, 2009 10:21 AM   
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Thank you, and very well put! Even the most brain dead idiot can understand it when you put it this way. Here's a few more facts to take with you.

The best argument I've heard against a single payer program is that we can't afford it. Here is the reality I came up with doing my own research and posted on Newsweek.

"For those of us confused by propaganda, a government run single payer system is cheaper because you cut out the middle men. Do your research, or at least read the results of mine before you start parroting what you've been told to believe. Let's compare systems, shall we, with two of the examples (Canada and England) which critics of health reform try to throw out as "bad" examples of where they are "scared" we're being led.

1) We spend roughly 15.2% of GDP on health care. Canada spends 9.9% and England spends 7.8%.
2) We cover 2/3's of our people (sort of). Both Canada and England cover all their people.
3) The US ranks 37th in health care according to the WHO. Canada ranks 30th and England ranks 18th.

We pay 33% more money for this? Moving away from this is what everyone is afraid of?

I've heard that it isn't "fair" to our health care system to go to a government program. That doctors won't make as much as they want. That a lot of health care "professionals" will be out of work. That sounds like progress to me! That some HMO corporate hack can't buy another McMansion and his wife has to drive a Ford instead of a BMW or Mercedes, bought on the blood and health of our families? I call that eliminating waste. Kind of makes sense why other countries have 100% coverage for less money and with better health care, because they don't have this brain dead ideological argument about private vs. public. It's a masquerade, one designed to protect the current health care system, and their lobbyists that paid for our elected officials political campaigns.

GO CLEAN ELECTIONS!!!

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» RE: -) Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
Quick answer to the question posed...
Posted by: jbro434 on May 11, 2009 11:01 AM   
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Yes

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Sirota Nails It ... So Does Chris Hedges ... Buying Brand Obama ...
Posted by: mmckinl on May 11, 2009 11:13 AM   
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Just having the health insurance companies in the room is capitulation ... All the experts know, as do the health insurance companies that government single payer is the only serious way to go ...

Once again Obama has put corporations before the people ...

"The junk politics practiced by Obama is a consumer fraud. It is about performance. It is about lies. It is about keeping us in a perpetual state of childishness. But the longer we live in illusion, the worse reality will be when it finally shatters our fantasies. Those who do not understand what is happening around them and who are overwhelmed by a brutal reality they did not expect or foresee search desperately for saviors. They beg demagogues to come to their rescue. This is the ultimate danger of the Obama Brand. It effectively masks the wanton internal destruction and theft being carried out by our corporate state. These corporations, once they have stolen trillions in taxpayer wealth, will leave tens of millions of Americans bereft, bewildered and yearning for even more potent and deadly illusions, ones that could swiftly snuff out what is left of our diminished open society."

Buying Brand Obama

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DNC's Organizing for America "Listening Tour"
Posted by: JackieGiles on May 11, 2009 8:30 PM   
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The Obama DNC (Tim Kaine) is launching an effort to recruit the grassroo ts Obama campaign workers to sign on to organize their localities to support Obama's Legislative Agenda. Sounds good, right?? The announced "mission" is to engender support for the Obama Health Care plan (whatever that turns our to be) likewise for education and energy. At the meeting I attended in Tacoma WA tonight 6pm-8pm, the meeting was "comandeered" by the attendees who questioned the "mission" which was described as "getting Pres. Obama's Legislative Agenda passed. The problem was, that of the 3 categories, Health Care, Education and Energy, there was no Obama "Plan" proposed. We were simply to push whatever Obama decided was the health care program that Congress spit out which he supports. The attendees rebeled against signing up to promote "whatever" and the poor, besieged leader tried manfully to defend the structure he was hired to promote. Bottom line here: IF YOU ARE FOR SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE, RAISE HELL AT WHITEHOUSE.GOV, GO TO THE LOCAL "ORGANIZING FOR AMERICA" MEETINGS and tell the DNC that they are hundreds of miles behind the American people who are tired of being the only developed country in the WORLD, that still has a "serious" debate about whether health care is a privilege or a human right.

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1,700,000,000 reasons for eliminating Health Insurance Companies.
Posted by: johngary66 on May 12, 2009 12:29 AM   
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$1,700,000,000 yes that is $1.7 billion dollars. In 2006 the executive pay board at United Health Insurance issued stock options at one time worth that amount to I'ts CEO at the time, Dr. William McQuire. Unfortunately for him and the company, they had back dated his options and approximately $2.4 Billion for a few other executives. That made the SEC sit up and take notice for a change. United health care was fined the largest fine ever issued by the SEC. $7 million. Dr, McGuire lost his job and ended up having to pay back approximately $600 million. Poor guy, and after he had brought huge increases to the stocks value. But how did they get all this money to lavish on just a few executives. Did they have to deny a lot of claims or just gouge the customers with high premiums. I encourage readers to google Dr. William McQuire.

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Slow Steady Starvation
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 12, 2009 8:05 AM   
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Come on Lefties how do you expect a Pres who's been painted a Socialist to be able to push a healthcare system which has also been mislabled 'Socialist'. Are you trying to hand the Right an 'Ace in the Hole'?
Obama know there is a Juggernaut of a political force he is able to unleash (even though he really doesn't have his hand really on the leash to begin with)
If it is the majority of Americans Demanding Single payer- the issue is 'out of his hands' the People have spoken. He Can't protect these corps or the special interest groups from the Will of the People. Perfect way to refute the portrayal of 'socialist' and use US as the Damocleus Sword hanging over the Profiteers heads. 'Gee Guys the people say those concession aren't good enough, Try again'.
what do you think he is doing with GM & Chryler and their unyeilding elements- not the unions,but the investors and creditors. Make concessions or go bankrupt- it's called Muscling.
And let's be honest and realistic (like Conyers Single payor proposal), We can not wave a magic wand and convert to Universal healthcare- it would overwhelm the system, cause havoc and destroy even more jobs- it's gonna be a slow process to full conversion.
So we push for a public system (medicare/Va type) and as more and more Americans realize the system is fine, costs less and can be maintained between jobs and when unemployed, they will begin to move away from the private insurances. Slowly straving them of members, driving down prices and increasing services to maintain or gain members. but most will go extinct- gradually allowing the customers and the workers to integrate more smoothly into the new system.
Nowhere in our founding Documents does it state the Gov't is not allowed to be one of the competitors in the Free market. And Truely Who really is the Gov't but a Representative of the People- so who dare Claims WE the People are not allowed to participate in the Free market- not just as consumers but as providers.
If anything has Killed The true basis of our Free market it's been the Corps who've run this country like their own monopoly game. it's time they prove they can survive by competing against US- in healthcare,and in Energy.... to start.
So let's keep the heat on- but not use Obama as the the healthcare 'messiah'( and scapegoat for the Rigths blockage), it is US who have to create the real threat used to get the Corps et al to Sign on the dotted line.('either your signature or your brains will be on this paper when I leave'). Make healthcare Reform the Third Rail for the Corps and their congressional Whores.But let's not lose sight of reality in the process, this will be a lengthy undertaking.Progress is measured (and most successful) when taken in Well foreseen, thoughtout and manageable steps.

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Obama appeaser.
Posted by: Christopher Hobe Morrison on May 12, 2009 10:01 AM   
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So Obama is an appeaser now? Why shouldn't he get all the health care special interests in a big room and let them make promises, then wait and see whether they can be made to keep those promises or even improve on them?

All you writers of comments, you would much rather sit around in self-righteous indignation complaining about how both political parties are both tools of rich people and there is no justice in a capitalist world. But I think Obama is letting the opposition have as much rope as it needs and trusting them to know what to do with it.

Why don't you all look at the state of the Republican Party right now, and ask yourselves whether you want the Democratic Party to follow them over the waterfalls.

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If You Haven't Figured Out That This is a Buch of Bull I Fell Sorry For You
Posted by: ATH on May 12, 2009 10:26 AM   
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There will be no reform as long as insurance companies are involved. That should be obvious.

It should also be obvious--from the Wall Street/Banking disaster (engineered by the central bankers and Wall Street)--that self-regulation is an oxymoron, and anyone who believes it can work is simply a moron, period.

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The health care industry
Posted by: Bliss Doubt on May 12, 2009 11:42 AM   
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is a phrase used erroneously in Sirota's article and others, to denote insurance and pharma. Health care is care from physicians, nurses, rehab specialists, hospice, etc., and preventive care from good education (including sex ed.), nutrition and exercise. Health care begins in childhood, involves school curricula, and continues into old age when people require nursing care.

The idea that the health care industry in our country is insurance and pharma is simply erroneous, gives these bloated industries too much importance, and diverts attention from their roles in the degradation of health care here.

If pharma would not allow Clinton's 1980's salvo of the bloc prescription buying power of Medicare, then how can we expect that insurance would be willing to make any deals with government?

And yes is my answer to the question of whether insurance has been bilking and gouging this country until now.

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When do the politicians ever keep the promise? Look at the UK All in am mess of expenses scandal.
Posted by: flymulla on May 12, 2009 6:32 PM   
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When do the politicians ever keep the promise? Look at the UK All in am mess of expenses scandal.
I thank you
Firozali A.Mulla

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