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A Path to Peace with Iran

Posted by Scott Ritter at 12:12 PM on April 20, 2006.


Iran isn't close to developing a nuclear weapon, and is still a member of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. The antiwar movement must now forge new alliances to prevent an Iran confrontation.

It has been more than a week now since the Iranian government announced that it had "joined the nuclear club" by successfully enriching uranium, albeit for nuclear fuel, not a weapon. Once a nation has the capacity to enrich to the former, enrichment to the latter is simply a matter of time; the technology is the same. Iran's declaration immediately made headlines around the world, with stunned punditry engaging in wild speculation about the potential ramifications of this turn of events. From a simple laboratory-scale enrichment experiment, a massive nuclear weapons program grew Pheonix-like from the ashes, prompting dire warnings from US Government officials such as Assistant Secretary of State for International Security and Nonproliferation Stephen Rademaker, who told a press conference in Moscow, where he was visiting to discuss the Iranian nuclear issue with Russian officials, that Iran "...may be capable of making a nuclear bomb within 16 days."

Rademaker was referring to the mathematical possibilities arising from Iran enriching uranium to weapons grade-levels at its centrifuge enrichment plant at Natanz, using a 50,000-centrifuge cascade system the United States and others say is capable of being installed at the facility. In a nod to the hypothetical nature of his outlandish remark, Rademaker did note that the Iranians have gone on record as only wanting to install a 3,000-centrifuge cascade at Natanz. In that case, Rademaker said, "We calculate that a 3,000-machine cascade could produce enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon within 271 days." Apparently 271 days isn't as terrifyingly sexy as 16 days, given that the majority of the media reported Rademakers initial statement.

In all fairness to Mr. Rademaker, the full 16 days window he postulated remains open, and so it is perhaps too harsh to pass criticism until it is known whether or not his prediction will come to pass. But I'll wager a dime to a dollar that come 16 days -- or even 271 days -- the world will find Iran no closer to a nuclear bomb than it is today, because the reality is Iran does not possess an active, ongoing, viable nuclear weapons program. In all reality, Iran does not yet even possess the capability to enrich uranium on an industrial scale. Its claims regarding the laboratory-scale work that was conducted -- a limited run of some 164 centrifuges which enriched Uranium hexafluoride gas (UF6) from 0.7% to 3.5% U235 -- has yet to be verified by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is in the process of collecting samples of the enriched gas for further analysis.

The fact that the IAEA safeguard inspections are at play in Iran may in itself come as a surprise to most observers of the ongoing Iranian nuclear saga. Iran is still very much a member, in good standing, of the non-proliferation treaty, and all of its nuclear activities continue to be under the stringent monitoring of the IAEA safeguard inspectors, an odd reality for a nation only 16 days away from being able to replicate the American attack on Hiroshima, if Stephen Rademaker is to be taken seriously. It takes an extraordinary stretch of the imagination to have Iran fabricating a nuclear weapon right under the nose of IAEA inspectors who today manage an inspection process that is not only technologically advanced, but seasoned after years of sleuthing after nuclear weapons programs in Iraq, North Korea, South Africa and Iran. To liken these professionals, as is the habit of many in the Bush administration today, to "keystone cops" is like comparing the US Marine Corps to the Boy Scouts. The IAEA inspectors are the best in the world at what they do. The fact that they have not found a "smoking gun" to back up what has been to date nothing more than irresponsible speculation concerning the existence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program should ease the fears of those politicians and pundits prone to panic. Unfortunately, this has not been the case, and as a result the world finds itself inching ever closer to a tragically unnecessary war between the United States and Iran.

The problems that plague Washington DC on the issue of Iran are the same problems that haunt America overall regarding Iraq -- no clear understanding of why we as a nation are doing what we are doing where we are doing it, and absolutely no system of accountability for those who are implicated, directly through their actions or indirectly through abrogation of duties and responsibilities, in embroiling America in such senseless conflict. There seems to be, especially among the so-called "anti-war" crowd, a tendency to blame the "system" for all that ails us, with a specific trend to isolate particular nodes of economic and/or political power for special indictment.

In this light, the current war in Iraq and the real possibility of war with Iran becomes the responsibility of "Big Oil," the "Neo Cons," the "Military Industrial Complex," and more recently, the "Israeli Lobby." There are more names one can add to the list; everyone, it seems, is to blame. Congress, while not getting a pass, does get special dispensation in so far that we can understand why the elected representatives of the people abrogate the trust and confidence we place in them by noting that they have fallen under the ever expanding control of "special interests," namely the aforementioned power nodes that are to blame for everything. Likewise, since these power nodes also control the mainstream media, one can begin to understand why it is that the pro-war message trumps the anti-war message every step of the way.

Of course, there is much merit in all of the above arguments. There are in fact special interest groups (the so-called "power nodes") which exude influence, both in terms of influencing the legislative agenda of elected officials as well as the overall "thematic" of mainstream media, far in excess of that which is healthy in an ostensibly representative democracy. But it is wrong, and futile, to simply blame these power nodes, or the institutions they have come to so heavily influence. These power nodes did not simply appear out of nowhere. They are a product of American history and culture, a manifestation of the reality that, even more so than the processes of representative democracy, America is a product of unadulterated capitalism.

All that is good and bad about our society today stems from that basic truth. The American capitalist system exists to make money, and that money ends up concentrated in the hands of a few, while the majority of Americans toil in support of this massive capital generating behemoth. As a nation over time we have tinkered with the American system (imperfectly, it may be argued) in a way that seeks to protect the civil liberties of the individual. But in the end we are compelled not to bite the hand that feeds us, and the corporation for the most part has benefited at the expense of the citizen. Some would argue that the gains of the corporation translate into the gains of the citizen. This is true, as long as there remains a system of checks and balances through the vehicle of the rule of law that stays the hand of excessive greed at the expense of individual rights. But in the end the strongest proponent of individual rights must be the individual citizen, and when the system of capitalism dulls the attraction of citizenship based upon the rule of law (a process that is extraordinarily time consuming and difficult) with the allure of consumer-based creature comforts delivered to the masses, the individual is faced with an up-hill struggle of immense proportions that cannot be won unless a helping hand is offered by the very system of capitalism the individual is struggling against.

In short, America as a nation is genetically constructed in a manner that places a premium on greed. However, the DNA that drives this greed gene requires a compliant host, which we could call the American citizenry, if it is to survive. There has always been a complicated Kabuki-type dance occurring between the American corporation and the American citizen, with a Constitutionally mandated system of governance, replete with pre-programmed checks and balances, serving as puppet master in an effort to preserve a relative balance. But, as President Eisenhower foretold when warning America about the ascendancy of the military-industrial complex back in the 1950's, if this delicate balance is disrupted, the system is in danger of collapsing.

The American system has been in collapse for many decades now, with the rise of corporate power occurring in direct relationship with the demise of concept and reality of individual citizenship. How America as a nation reacted to the horrific events of September 11, 2001 clearly put the manifestation of this collapse on center stage. Americans for the most part remained mute and motionless as the rights of the individual were infringed on irrationally by the so-called Patriot Act. The various economic and political power nodes, once held in check by a Congress which at one time recognized its responsibilities to the individual citizen, now ran rough shod over the elected representatives of the people by exploiting the fear of the people generated by the people's own ignorance of the world they lived in. In short, the current war in Iraq, and the looming war with Iran, can be explained as a manifestation of American capitalism gone mad.

Some might argue that this very definition in itself provides justification for a total rejection of the current manifestation of the American system, and the need to seek a new path or direction. There are those in the anti-war movement today who articulate such an argument. I, for one, am not prepared to embrace this way of thinking. I recognize both the good and bad inherent in the difficult blending of capitalistic greed and individual humanism that is modern America, and accept that this system is the best model in existence today, as long as it maintains a system of checks and balances that keeps the forces of excessiveness under control. In likening America to a biological entity suffering from genetic mutation, I not only attempt to identify the problem, but also the cure.

The delicate balancing act that exists between capitalism and individual rights is a pre-requisite for American national survival. Right now this system is out of balance, and America is teetering down a path of self-destruction. Fortunately, like most biological beings, there is an internal mechanism that recognizes when a system is out of alignment, and seeks to make the appropriate adjustments in time to forestall its demise. Since America is, first and foremost, a capitalist system, it is to capitalism that one must look to for these adjustments. We got the first inklings of this very sort of attitudinal wake-up call just this week, when Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana, a Republican of distinction who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called for the Bush administration to "cool it" on the issue of Iran.

Senator Lugar did not base his arguments on grand ideological principles of peace and justice, but rather the more base passion of prosperity. Speaking before an audience at the Brookings Institution in Washington, DC, Senator Lugar warned that a confrontation between the United States and Iran over its nuclear programs could trigger economic collapse at home and abroad should Iran's oil and gas resources be withdrawn from the global energy market. With global consumption of oil on the rise, not only in the United States but also developing economies such as China and India, spare production capacity has dwindled from 10 percent in 2002 to less than two percent today, Lugar noted. If Iran pulled its oil and gas resources from the market, or had them pulled indirectly through sustained US military intervention, the global energy market would be thrown into a crisis the likes of which have never been seen.

Senator Lugar spoke of the threat that exists simply if the price of oil is sustained at the $60 a barrel level, noting that Americans paid 17 percent more for energy in 2005 than in the previous year, an increase which accounted for more than a third of the American trade deficit. "If oil prices remain at $60 a barrel through 2006, we will spend about $320 billion on oil imports this year." As of this writing, oil prices were just above $70 per barrel, with the Iranian government noting that in their opinion the price of oil was still below its "real value." What Lugar did not engage in directly, but referred to obliquely, was that the forces of capitalism which drive America also drive the global oil market, and that if America, which currently consumes 25 percent of the world's oil, engages in actions with Iran that disrupt the global oil market, the competition which fuels speculative oil pricing would go out of control as the United States, Europe, China and India competed to lock down energy supplies they all need to survive. Lugar spoke of his concerns over oil prices sustained at $60 per barrel. Imagine the consequences of sustained oil prices of $100 per barrel, or more.

This reality is understood not only by Senator Lugar, but also various conservative foreign policy figures, including those who articulated in favor of war with Iraq. Influential persons such as Richard Haas and Richard Armitage have come out recently in favor of broad diplomatic and economic engagement with Iran, versus the extreme confrontational approach of the Bush White House. These conservatives are loathe to take the lead on such a volatile issue on their own initiative. Instead, their posturing away from confrontation with Iran is more likely a manifestation of the reality that the conservative capitalist circles they operate in are becoming increasingly nervous about the damage such confrontation could bring to the economic system that currently sustains them.

It is said that politics makes for strange bedfellows. If there is to be any hope of forestalling a disastrous war between the United States and Iran, there must be an internal realignment of the delicate Kabuki dance between capitalism and individualism in America that seeks to sustain the American way of life, versus destroy it. Today, many in the anti-war movement decry conservative capitalists as being the source of all that ails America, and the nurturing point which feeds the various economic and political power nodes that produce the variety of special interest groups the anti-war movement likes to pin responsibility for war in Iraq (and the possibility of war with Iran) on. Likewise, this total disconnect between many of those that populate the anti-war movement and the conservative circles in which Richard Lugar, Richard Haas, and Richard Armitage operate in means that there is no tendency on the part of these conservatives to reach out to the anti-war movement for help in forestalling a conflict both sides agree is wrong for America.

Many in the anti-war movement seem to recognize that there is a need to expand the base of this movement to be much more inclusive of mainstream America. I suggest that the pace of current events dictate a much more dramatic solution -- that the anti-war movement begin to reach out to the very institutions that it condemns and make common cause for the preservation of a way of life -- the unique blend of corporate capitalism and individual rights -- that is at risk from the policies of the Bush administration. It is not likely that there will be many points of agreement on the long-term path that America should take regarding achieving the ideal balance between these two competing, and somewhat contradictory, concepts. But one thing is certain: if the Bush administration has its way regarding war with Iran, both concepts will be put at risk in the chaos which will follow.

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Impeachment is the only recourse that can bring a halt to the madness in Iraq, and the insanity being planned in Iran and elsewhere.
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January 23, 2006.

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All due respect Mr. Ritter . . .
Posted by: daveinchi on Apr 20, 2006 1:14 PM   
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. . . but are we actually looking for corporations to leap in and help save us from War with Iran? I don't have much faith that these richies will see the light any time soon. Creature comforts breed complacency, and sloth.

Their economy may be destroyed by such a war, but I don't that corporate America will be any more than deer in the headlights - like the rest of Bush's base.

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Merge interests with Corporations?
Posted by: NightSnow on Apr 20, 2006 1:36 PM   
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I admire the writings of Scott Ritter.
He was one of few sane voices leading to the build up of war with Iraq.

But am I reading this correctly?

"[I] accept that this system is the best model in existence today, as long as it maintains a system of checks and balances that keeps the forces of excessiveness under control."

The same checks and balances that have been comprimised by the spineless Senate that has ceded their control to declare war and the pro-Bush Supreme Court?

He thinks the "best" system that exists can be regulated by itself.

That's like hiring Allen Dulles (the CIA man axed for the failed Bay of Pigs) to investigate JFK's murder.

But tell us Scott, what do you think is the best path to take?

"the anti-war movement [needs] to reach out to the very institutions that it condemns and make common cause for the preservation of a way of life -- the unique blend of corporate capitalism and individual rights -- that is at risk from the policies of the Bush administration."

Apparently Mr. Ritter thinks that letting the fox into the hen's den is the best solution for the anti-war movement.

Yes, with all due respect, thanks for the load of BS.

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Can't trust Iran
Posted by: actnow2 on Apr 20, 2006 1:59 PM   
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Hello my name is Frank Romano and I feel this country is in serious trouble. The facts of the matter are we have allies that would love nothing better then to see our destruction. One of our main supposed friends armed who knows how many Islamic countries with nuclear abilities. Another is the main cash cow for terrorists. Now we have Iran on the verge of nuclear advancements that neither we nor the world can take a chance of it being peaceful. Just listen to their president. At the very least he will destroy Israel anyone with half a brain has to know that. It disgusts me that we feel the need to wait and talk to a country that has proven many times it has no interest or intentions of working with the world. It is our right and our responsibility to defend ourselves as well as our friends. If we wait a few years it will be too late it is better to put Iran and any other Muslim country that disagrees in the Stone Age. I know that wont happen so we might as well just give up now we can’t win against fanatics who feel if the die killing us they will go the heaven with 100 virgins. . They belong to a sick religion if you can call killing all non believers a religion.

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scott ritter is not a liberal democrat
Posted by: wpahnelas on Apr 20, 2006 2:17 PM   
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i, too, admire scott ritter's writings, to say nothing of the man himself, who took every opportunity to speak out against the war in iraq waaayyyy before it started. he had great credibility because not only had he been a weapons inspector in iraq who knew 1st-hand that the WMD had been destroyed, but also acknowledging that he was a conservative republican who'd voted for bush in 2000. he even passed an audition to appear on CNN as an "expert" talking head on iraq WMD (neither a flake nor a wimp) -- but the network chose to go with its lineup of pro-war generals instead. more than any other single person, scott ritter put the lie to bush's later assertion that "everyone else agreed that saddam had WMD," as the administration tried to wiggle out from under its false claims of the threat posed by iraq.

one shouldn't expect ritter to embrace the wider principles of those on the political left, in addition to its anti-war views, because that's not where the man is coming from.. he's a conservative, after all, but a principled one who doesn't hold his nose and support those in power just because they happen to be members of the same political party, who goes along just for the sake of being on the side that's "winning."

while ritter was way out in front of his fellow conservatives on the war, we should no longer assume he's just a voice in the wilderness any longer. we should take to heart his call to reach across the traditional ideological divide to make common cause with opponents of an attack on iran, the corruption of our institutions and erosion of civil liberties.

at the root of it, what's at stake here is a threat to all americans, regardless of partisan persuasion -- if we don't stop cheney's march toward a corporatist dictatorship, we can forget about politics, elections and the freedoms bush allegedly fights for elsewhere but dismantles here at home.

but we must get busy. every distortion, manipulation and lie presented to build a case for attacking iran needs to be refuted as widely and loudly as possible -- before they can set like concrete in the popular imagination. if we dither about tactics or who is an ally, the march to war becomes a rush to war becomes a stampede. same as with iraq.

don't misunderestimate the enemy, or the gullibility of a public that gets its information and impressions of what constitutes reality from the wasteland of commercial television. we get one chance to get this right. what comes after if we fail will be a nation we'll no longer even recognize.

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Why attack Iran for Israel's sake?
Posted by: Ralf on Apr 20, 2006 2:25 PM   
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It is obvious that Iran cannot harm America even in many, many years to come. However, it is theoretically possibly for them to attack Israel. And let's face it, that's the real reason why we are so worried, otherwise, North Korea would be bombed long time ago. I think the Israel Lobby article gives all the answers that people don't want us to hear.

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Iran probably has nukes already
Posted by: Moonray on Apr 20, 2006 2:46 PM   
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It's likely that Iran, a very wealthy nation with strong ties to Pakistan and probably North Korea as well, already has nuclear weapons. Certainly it could acquire at least a few by simply buying them. So why all the drama over nuclear fuel enrichment? Because Iranian officials feel duty-bound to spit in the eye of the Great Satan, and of course the Bushies feel duty-bound to paint Iran as another Evil Empire.

Scott Ritter makes some very good points in this article, but I fail to see how the corporate sector is likely to ease the situation much. Many corporations profit from war and almost all benefit from siding with White House insiders. They don't want to rock the boat.

Also, American bellicosity in foreign policy has many origins, not just capitalism. The military mindset that typifies the Bushies is a big factor, and that in turn stems partly from the American obsession with competition in every aspect of our society. Our children are taught to form Us/Them relationships very early in life, and to demonize Them and beat the crap out of Them at every opportunity. No wonder a nation that disagrees with us risks being treated as an Evil Empire. (Just ask Hugo Chavez and the other neo-socialist leaders in South America.)

It all seems very organic -- and unfixable. Frankly, I think things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

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Corporate vs. individual.
Posted by: omelvz on Apr 20, 2006 2:55 PM   
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At the age of 64, born and raised in California, a myriad of jobs
and a specifically unique education in the '60's and my step father an adminsistrator at the Radiation Lab in Livermore for some 26 years the insights I have at the present parade of foolishness with regards the present administration and the Middle East are thus: Citizens drive over-bearingly weighty vehicles at (seemingly) a constant (Nascaar) speedway pace to get there, pass any vehicles doing the speed limit of 65. I know that 95% of those vehicles power plant is devoted to move the machine, the last 5% for the citizen operator and stuff. Recently I widnessed a new Ferrarri traveling at 65 and all other traffic speed past as thought he was parked. The image of course a Ferrari fastes car on the road doing the speed limit. Nuclear Warfare will most assuredly result in not just economic disorder but profound unknowable psychological trauma to all populations the world over. "Nuke em" and they are dead, gone, obliterated. Where will the soul of "america" then be? Where will the "turn the other cheek" belivers be? Why would anyone want to get up out of bed after knowing that "OUR" government did the Muslims and in the bed of the history of Western Civilizations? Why would we want to draw breath and attempt to be sane? These questions are on the minds of any person aware as to the gravity that such a specter of destruction brings. These questions are on the minds and the hearts of all those who yeild nuclear devices, inside their heart of hearts they ache with certainty that such a device naught be ever used. These last five years essentially have brought the more devistating questions to our country's spiritual make-up and we are allowing the "children" to posture thusly. The Ferrari, to anyone who appreciates our present accomplishments is symbolic of our minds ability to realize evolutionary greatness and it symbolizes the energies spent in realizing design-science knowledge on a scale that bespeaks not the beast in us, nor the folly but our comprehensions as to the secrets inherent of the mysteries of the phenomena's of life.The opposite is true of "children" yeilding the club. The colors of red, white and blue, bespeak in a psychological sense fervency for life, purities of purpose in life, and courage. I certainly do not perceive these long, dark, five years that those colors have those meaning whatsoever!!!!
We, all are individuals first and foremost, no matter our candy coatings and fluff of importance shall wilt in our massed shame for going forth with such blasphemous considerations of nuking others so we can speed at 85 mph in our lugging dastardly penetrating foolishness. Does the line "the world shall end not with a bang but with a wimper"
bring forth any realizations? Or how about the the two word sentence uttered over and over by those who witnessed the Trade Center destruction: "OH, SHIT!"

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pendulum
Posted by: john bourne harbour on Apr 20, 2006 7:04 PM   
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i have admired scott ritter as he has been an outspoken critic of the falsity of wmd's in iraq and as he has tried to provide an unwilling citizenry with the facts as they have hurled stones at him-- a very brave, persistent and intelligent man—

however, the liberal left of america has watched this country be taken so far off the track that i personally believe that the pendulum cannot swing back to far-- the liberal left, being the nice folks that they are, cannot meet the conservatives and capitalists half-way, shake hands and state “let’s work towards a better america for all”-- this belief foolishly assumes that the right would be willing to do this and it forgets that this is what a lot of the folks on the right have been working against for many years-- unfortunately the dog eat dog world in which only the strongest survives demands that someone gets kicked in the teeth and any good capitalist knows that the sooner i do it to you then the less chance you have to do it to me-- so let’s forget about playing nice-- let’s forget about hoping that maybe the neo-con right and so called christian fundamentalists will see the error of their ways and decide to accept all folks disregarding what their religion, sex, sexual preference, race or ethnic background may be-- let’s forget about hoping that this administration will see that torture and war are not methods to be used when you are a so-called superpower-- in short let’s forget about equal and/or human rights-- because that is exactly what the neo-con right and this administration have done—

it’s time to examine the structure a little more closely-- it’s time to realize that maybe the only real answer is to take the structure down and start again-- perhaps it’s time to start fresh-- perhaps it’s time to burn down the house--

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Thank you
Posted by: realitique on Apr 20, 2006 7:33 PM   
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for a very insightful post. It's worth noting that while the intelligence and security services of Western nations (and probably all nations with sufficient wealth) act like the Mob vis a vis other countries, the public within each nation lives in a bubble in which their country's darkest deeds are unreported and their biggest achievements touted. The Japanese are largely ignorant of their atrocities in China, most Russians still think Stalin was a great leader and Americans know little of their recent, bloody past.

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No Evidence Iran Pursuing Nuke Weapons
Posted by: fairleft on Apr 20, 2006 9:52 PM   
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Mr. Ritter, thank you for the following: "It takes an extraordinary stretch of the imagination to have Iran fabricating a nuclear weapon right under the nose of IAEA inspectors who today manage an inspection process that is not only technologically advanced, but seasoned after years of sleuthing after nuclear weapons programs in Iraq, North Korea, South Africa and Iran. ...The IAEA inspectors are the best in the world at what they do. The fact that they have not found a "smoking gun" to back up what has been to date nothing more than irresponsible speculation concerning the existence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program should ease the fears of those politicians and pundits prone to panic."

It is the above that should be the reason the American left, and in my fantasy world the Democratic Party, should be as opposed to war with Iran as many of us were to war with Iraq. Paranoia and fearmongering is driving the public to accept war with Iran. It is good to have Scott Ritter heroically pointing that out. The left has to join him on this as loudly and as frequently as possible: there is no evidence that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons. We must not (join the Demo Party establishment and) abandon this fundamental reason why war with Iran is wrong.

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Good Read, and Honesty cannot be faulted
Posted by: even(nik) on Apr 20, 2006 10:33 PM   
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I'm from other side of world. just happen to like alternative media.
I agree that if some entity, even if it be a very disagreable one, is in a position or has the resources to be of help in acieving a goal, due to convergence of interests, only a loser would rather lose.
Interesting to read Scott's analysis of capitalism, corporations and individualism. Being of a socialist frame of mind, i think the key is to regulate it so competiton gives you the best. most competent and wisest people with the power, (individuals like Scott would do a good job if given power as they are intelligent and want to do what's right); as it is the competition gives us too often the people who are connected, hypocritical, dishonest, networkers, cheaters instead. Two sides of the same coin of competition, just got the wrong one running society.

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Leave Iran Alone and let's mind our own business
Posted by: thinkverybig on Apr 21, 2006 12:36 AM   
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Just leave Iran alone. They haven't done anything to the U.S

We should learn to mind our own damn business.


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One thing I do want to address is oppression world wide. I need more ideas and view points. Let's make "WeMustChange.org" a household name. I need some good people on my team.

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Time to come clean
Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 21, 2006 1:56 AM   
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It is time to come clean on the validity and effectiveness of anti-war demonstrations. I witnessed the biggest anti-war demonstration in the UK prior to the invasion of Iraq. As a demo, it was near perfect. People behaved very well, many were highly educated, everyone had award-winning, well designed placards that gave a unifie message: 'not in my name'. It was an utter failure at having any impact on altering the course of the war.

Not only did it fail to stop the attack, after the invasion the Labour Party was elected back in with a majorty government. Tony Blair's Labour Party shares much with Kennedy's government in the 1960s (and not by accident). He leads a country that has never richer, hell-bent on modernising itself, becoming more multi-cultural and multi-racial. These are, like the 1960s, progressive times in the UK. The war is presented as an extension of this progressiveness, just like the Democrats used to do: 'a war on want, a war on communism'.

The only way to stop the war, and future illegal wars, is to pull the political plug on the party. People will need to come clean, and realise that you can't on the one hand, work for the Labour Party and get them back in government, and oppose the war. The two don't work together.

Iran will be attacked - Bush signed off on it a long time ago. He views all your complaints as 'noise'. The usual cacophony of the democratic process, all hot air and no spine. It is worthwhile remembering that.

I say do not harbour illusions about the Democrats. They will behave much the same if in power. Always remember that the Dems were able to reconcile the vietnam war and progressive policies. The anti-war movement, if it is to ave any impact on current events, it will need to build an alternative political structure. It will need to stop supporting so-called progressive parties that fail to live by their values.

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Posted by: glitchsystem on Apr 21, 2006 3:49 AM   
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Really interesting points made by most people... Ritter has a point when he talks about the union of both sides of the political spectrum to stop the conflict with Iran (though this union would not help with the general change of western poltical control - as they are obviously opposing sides with no common goal, or very few). I personally am interested in 'real' solutions, tht means obtainable solutions, given the current social manipulation that we all exeperience - if we think theres going to be a massive socialist or anachist revolution in time to stop an invasion of Iran you're dreamin'... what is important - so these other revolutions can happen - is to stop this invasion before it starts a very heavy rock rolling down a steep hill... an invasion of Iran will have massive consequences we are all aware of im sure, not to mention opening the flood gates for other coutries to begin to use nuclear weapons... anyway my point is to stop this war we need all sides to unite even if some of the parties have an alterior motive of saving their moneytary interests

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Let's at least try it!
Posted by: Aurora on Apr 21, 2006 9:47 AM   
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Rather than criticizing Scott Ritter for making suggestions to build a coalition between peace activists such as myself and corporate America, we should take heed. As it has been written that once Wall Street lost interest in Vietnam, it pretty much wrapped up the war. We should really try to connect the dots that Ritter is suggesting. Yes, there are many issues surrounding the corporatacracy such as explained in John Perkin's book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman". We need to address all of them. We also need to understand the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and the signatories to that treaty, and how our country has been in violation of that treaty. We are such ugly bullies that no one - in their right mind - around the world trusts us.
The hype for another war is really contradicting that fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans are sick of war mongering and fear bating from this Adminstration and all the other lap dogs who can't stand up for a more logical foreign policy. Any further agression by our country will result in the fall of the empire, which in the end, maybe what is needed. But in the meantime, let's honestly address Isreal and the billions we give them for their defense. Instead of acting that all is ok with their treatment and abuse of Palestinian families, which just makes matters absolutely worse. We need to remove ourselves from bases in Saudi Arabia and get our focus on our country from the inside. We will be much stronger if we do. Listen, Ritter offers us a much more comprehensive understanding of the Iranian nuclear capability than any other source I have seen. So use this information in your dialogue with anyone and everyone. Call Sen. Lieberman and tell him to shut up about going to war. Call your representative today and let them know that you are not going to pay for another useless strategic attack that is only going to make things worse. Call your broker, your banker and accountant and let me know that same thing. Be brave enough to speak out and state the obvious. Let's start talking about how we want our money spent and stop these fools in Washington decide our fate as well as jeapordizing more innocent lives.

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WMD: WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE
Posted by: seraph6wings on Apr 21, 2006 7:08 PM   
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1) ISRAEL IS MUCH LESS LIKELY TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IRAN, SYRIA, PAKISTAN, AND NORTH KOREA.

2) DESPITE THE OBVIOUS WMD FABRICATIONS (SADDAM DESERVED HIS FATE ANYWAY), THE USA MILITARY CANNOT PULL OUT NOW. THIS WOULD SEND A MESSAGE TO ALL NATIONS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY CANNOT DEFEAT THE USA IN A WAR, IF THEY UTILIZE SUICIDE BOMB/GUERILLA ATTACK WARFARE METHODS AND KILL ENOUGH USA SOLDIERS THAT AMERICAN PUBLIC AND POLITICIANS WILL LOSE THEIR WILL AND LEAVE. THUS, ANY FUTURE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS, NO MATTER WHICH POLITICAL PARTY, WILL LOSE CREDIBILITY TO ANY DEMANDS. THE REASONING IS THAT ANY DANGEROUS NATION WILL SEE THAT VIETNAM, BEIRUT, AND IRAQ, THAT
SUICIDE BOMB/GUERILLA ATTACK WARFARE METHODS
ARE THE PLAN TO SUCCESS AGAINST US. THIS WILL COST MORE USA SOLDIERS' LIVES IN THE FUTURE AND MAKE THE WORLD MUCH MORE DANGEROUS.

3) WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO ISLAM, ANY NATION THAT DESIRES THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL IS A DANGER.

4) THE WEALTHY ISLAMIC NATIONS MUST USE THEIR WEALTH TO HELP THEMSELVES AND THEIR SOCIO-ECONOMIC PROBLEMS THAT LEAVE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH NOTHING TO LOSE AND UNEDUCATED, SUBSEQUENTLY, MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE BRAINWASHED INTO BECOMING A TERRORIST/SUICIDE BOMBER. IF OSAMA AND THE OTHER 'THINGS' REALLY BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER PLACE IN HEAVEN WITH ALLAH BY BECOMING A SUICIDE BOMBER, THEN THEY WOULD DO THIS AND LEAVE THEIR MILLIONS IN THIS WORLD. NATURALLY, THEY ARE COWARDS AND USE THEIR OWN PEOPLE, USUALLY YOUNG, TO DO THEIR DIRTY WORK.

5) ISRAEL MUST ABIDE BY U.N. SANCTIONS AND OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD RESTRAIN THEM AND WITHDRAW ALL MILITARY AND ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE IF THEY DO NOT. PALESTINE SHOULD BECOME A NATION, YET NOT WITH HAMAS LEADING THEM.

6) IRAN WILL DEVELOPE SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS. THIS WILL BE LESS THAN THE 5 YEARS MENTIONED. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO OCCUPY IRAN AT THIS TIME, SO WE SHOULD SEND SOME MISSLES TO THEIR URANIUM NUCLEAR FACILITIES AS A STRONG MESSAGE AND SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS WOULD DO THIS AND PREVENT THEM FROM NUCLEAR CABABILITY FOR AT LEAST A DECADE AND THIS MESSAGE WOULD BE FOR OTHER ROUGE NATIONS, INCLUDING SYRIA AND HAMAS.

7) MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR P.R. REASONS, WHERE IS THE USA MILITARY LEADERSHIP FROM RESTRAINING IDIOTIC SOLDIERS FROM INCIDENTS LIKE WHAT HAPPENED AT ABU GHRAIB AND THE PHOTOS OF SADDAM IN HIS PRISON CELL THAT OFFENDS THE MUSLIMS AND INCITES THEIR HATRED FOR THE USA AND ITS FAVORTISM OF ISRAEL.

8) ANSWER THIS 3-PART QUESTION:

A) EVEN AMONG THE MOST MODERATE MUSLIMS, DO THEY THEOLOGICALLY BELIEVE THAT PALESTINE IS THEIR LAND GIVEN TO THEM BY ALLAH AND THAT ISRAEL DOES NOT BELONG THERE?

B) EVEN AMONG THE MOST MODERATE MUSLIMS, DO THEY THEOLOGICALLY BELIEVE THAT THE USA IS USING ITS MILITARY AND ECONOMIC MIGHT IN SUPPORTING ISRAEL, IN EFFECT, WORKING AGAINST ALLAH'S WISHES?

C) IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, WHO DO YOU THINK THAT THE MUSLIMS IN THE MID-EAST AND PALESTINE DEMOCRATICALLY WILL ELECT, PRO USA AND ISRAELI LEADERS?

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The problem is the mix of theocracy and capitalism
Posted by: Keon on Apr 22, 2006 2:15 PM   
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The Iranian theocracy, similar to the established Israeli and emerging American versions needs the greed machine of capitalism to survive and the instrument of fear to thrive. Iranian mullahs are deal makers not warmongers; they made secret purchases from Israel at height of their anti-Israel rhetoric in the 80s. The friction between Iran and Israel is based on Israel’s calculation that rejecting Iran’s overture in the 90s to establish detente will help it create strategic superiority over Iran in the long-run and influences the American policy in the region against Iran. America, on the other hand, is mostly motivated by its unwillingness to be patient, its inability to recognize cultural and regional nuances and the hegemony of mad men in and around the White House. Iranian mullahs are very much ready to make a deal and a grand one at that –but the West drunk with its neocolonial power and military might wants subservient nations, not equal partners. Leave Iran alone and the people will take care of the despotic regime there.

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Can't trust Iran ? Very well PUT ! ! !
Posted by: NY Currency Trader on Apr 22, 2006 11:47 PM   
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My Fellow Americans:

As the old saying goes, it's time to blast 'em, and let God sort them out ! That's right. If FUCKING Iran wants to tempt fate, and threaten us with nuclear weapons, we should be expected to tell them to bring it on, and then proceed to melt their fucking desert into a glass river, thereby sealing the remains of their Mullah fearing asses into posterity like a fucking mosquito trapped in Amber.

So they want to bring on Armageddon ? FUCKING A ! ! Bring it on MOTHERFUCKERS ! ! ! ! The plans have already been drawn for pre-dawn raids to clean up the Islamic Peninsula.

By the time those Allah-HO-MO-Hummad fearing motherfuckers wake up, they may be part of the desert crust. The point is they fucked with the wrong force ! We've got Marines ! SEMPER FI ! We've got the finest group of aviators in our airforce complete with the very best JDAM guided Nuclear Warheads ever fucking concieved !

So let those moronic islamic shit-heads even try to piss with us while saying "Allah Fucking Akbar." We shall simply show them that MY GOD IS AN AWSOME GOD !!!!! HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE !!! And he aint whistling dixie while dispersing feathers and confetti ! We are talking the real deal ! This is it ! ! ! SHOCK and AWE MOTHERFUCKERS !!! SHOCK and AWE ! ! !

My God continue to bless the United States of America and the George W. Bush administration.

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