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Bill Clinton Stuns Superdelegates with Angry Tirade Behind Closed Doors

Posted by Paddy , Cliff Schecter's Blog at 10:12 AM on April 2, 2008.


Take it with a grain of salt, since it's anonymous, but wow.

Take it with a grain of salt, since it's anonymous, but wow.

"It was one of the worst political meetings I have ever attended," one superdelegate said.

According to those at the meeting, Clinton - who flew in from Chicago with bags under his eyes - was classic old Bill at first, charming and making small talk with the 15 or so delegates who gathered in a room behind the convention stage.

But as the group moved together for the perfunctory photo, Rachel Binah, a former Richardson delegate who now supports Hillary Clinton, told Bill how "sorry" she was to have heard former Clinton campaign manager James Carville call Richardson a "Judas" for backing Obama.

It was as if someone pulled the pin from a grenade.

"Five times to my face (Richardson) said that he would never do that," a red-faced, finger-pointing Clinton erupted.

The former president then went on a tirade that ran from the media's unfair treatment of Hillary to questions about the fairness of the votes in state caucuses that voted for Obama. It ended with him asking delegates to imagine what the reaction would be if Obama was trailing by just 1 percent and people were telling him to drop out.

UPDATE:

Turning toward the much more classy Richardson, look at how he addressed being called "Judas" by Clintonista James Carville. (WaPo):

My recent endorsement of Barack Obama for president has been the subject of much discussion and consternation -- particularly among supporters of Hillary Clinton.

Led by political commentator James Carville, who makes a living by being confrontational and provocative, Clinton supporters have speculated about events surrounding this endorsement and engaged in personal attacks and insults.

While I certainly will not stoop to the low level of Mr. Carville, I feel compelled to defend myself against character assassination and baseless allegations.

Carville has made it very clear that this is a personal attack -- driven by his own sense of what constitutes loyalty. It is this kind of political venom that I anticipated from certain Clinton supporters and I campaigned against in my own run for president.

I repeatedly urged Democrats to stop attacking each other personally and even offered a DNC resolution calling for a positive campaign based on the issues. I was evenhanded in my efforts. In fact, my intervention in a debate during a particularly heated exchange was seen by numerous commentators as an attempt to defend Sen. Clinton against the barbs of Sens. Obama and John Edwards.

As I have pointed out many times, and most pointedly when I endorsed Sen. Obama, the campaign has been too negative, and we Democrats need to calm the rhetoric and personal attacks so we can come together as a party to defeat the Republicans.

More than anything, to repair the damage done at home and abroad, we must unite as a country. I endorsed Sen. Obama because I believe he has the judgment, temperament and background to bridge our divisions as a nation and make America strong at home and respected in the world again.

This was a difficult, even painful, decision. My affection and respect for the Clintons run deep. I do indeed owe President Clinton for the extraordinary opportunities he gave me to serve him and this country. And nobody worked harder for him or served him more loyally, during some very difficult times, than I did.

Carville and others say that I owe President Clinton's wife my endorsement because he gave me two jobs. Would someone who worked for Carville then owe his wife, Mary Matalin, similar loyalty in her professional pursuits? Do the people now attacking me recall that I ran for president, albeit unsuccessfully, against Sen. Clinton? Was that also an act of disloyalty?

And while I was truly torn for weeks about this decision, and seriously contemplated endorsing Sen. Clinton, I never told anyone, including President Clinton, that I would do so. Those who say I did are misinformed or worse.

As for Mr. Carville's assertions that I did not return President Clinton's calls: I was on vacation in Antigua with my wife for a week and did not receive notice of any calls from the president. I, of course, called Sen. Clinton prior to my endorsement of Sen. Obama. It was a difficult and heated discussion, the details of which I will not share here.

I do not believe that the truth will keep Carville and others from attacking me. I can only say that we need to move on from the politics of personal insult and attacks. That era, personified by Carville and his ilk, has passed and I believe we must end the rancor and partisanship that has mired Washington in gridlock. In my view, Sen. Obama represents our best hope of replacing division with unity. That is why, out of loyalty to my country, I endorse him for president.

Digg!

Paddy is a regular contributor to Cliff Schecter.com.


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uh huh!
Posted by: remeredyth on Apr 2, 2008 10:17 AM   
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Anonymous reports without verification are empty stories.....BAD journalism

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» Thank you Posted by: chuckjs
huge grain of salt
Posted by: happyhermit on Apr 2, 2008 10:43 AM   
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what a lazy, crappy, irresponbile post.

besides, clinton has every right to say those things. voter fraud is rampant, the media (including alternet) is clearly pushing obama, and even they have noting that it would be a different dynamic is obama was trailing by only 1 percentage points. also, if Bill Richardson said 5 times to his face that he would support HIllary, and then endorsed Obama, Bill has good reason to be angry.

meanwhile in the rest of the world...lots of things are happening that don't involve analyzing every twitch of the tedium that has become Election '08.

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Bill's tirades
Posted by: Christie on Apr 2, 2008 11:16 AM   
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If you agree with Hillary (and Bill) that she is entitled to the Presidency and it is her turn -- never mind that would give the Clintons 16 years in the White House (against the intent of term limits) -- then of course you are blind to seeing any reason that Bill Richardson might not believe that would be best for the country.

Whether this story is accurate or even true can be seriously questioned as its source is anonymous. However, many recent tirades by Bill at any suggestion of slight to Hillary just increase the impression that he and Hillary feel entitled to 8 more years in the White House, never mind the intent of term limits.

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News?
Posted by: jebpgh on Apr 2, 2008 11:51 AM   
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I concur that this is a non-story right now. We are in the midst of hotly contest primaries which means everyone on both sides are pushed to the edge. This shouldn't even appear in print as it is written.

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» RE: News? Posted by: seacaptdon
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Posted by: SweetEarth on Apr 2, 2008 12:02 PM   
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R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Zimbabwens fear Mugabe will cause chaos if he loses the ongoing election; hmmm.....sound like home? Anybody, here in the U.S. wondering about the peaceful "transfer of power" said to characterize democracy?

And, the fight goes on. That "Rocky Balboa" thing was so unsophisticated --think Bill might be getting somewhat prematurely compromised? I mean, even the working-class looks like they're outgrowing the Clintons. Billary should be very! worried! the people have wised up to the "dis" in the low pitch and figured out that we/they deserve more R-E-S-P-EC-T than that.

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I was rooting for Kucinich
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Apr 2, 2008 6:29 PM   
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so my choice got screwed. since I was really for neither Obama or Clinton,my shift has been solely based on the actions of the two. Obama has clearly displayed the wisest choices of words, reactions,associations. he wins hands down to me.

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Quack Quack Quack
Posted by: Longdream on Apr 2, 2008 8:22 PM   
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I am so fed up with the fucking Clintons and who the hell they think they are I could spit a mile.

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Footnote about the sources for this article
Posted by: djnoll on Apr 3, 2008 9:37 AM   
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On the first part of this post about Clinton's actions, this was reported by the person who was the subject of the tongue-lashing herself, as well as the the person who shot the photo of the incident, as to why she was considering endorsing Obama. It was as unexpected as it was vitriolic. Anyone who was there would attest that this is why Clinton's face was so red as he mounted the stage to give his speech that day - as was noted by several news reporters who were present. The anger in his voice as he spoke that day was also noted by everyone present and as you watch his speech, it is only towards the end that he begins to calm down again. The consummate actor!

As for Richardson's response, he put this out in a press release as well as an interview on public television (Good Morning, America, I believe) on the day after Carville's attack. Therefore, I guess you can believe this article or not as you see fit, but as for me, the sources were accurate and well-publicized.

As for the Clinton's, well, anyone who usually reads my posts knows that I do not consider the actions of this man, his wife, or his wife's surrogates as anything other than racist and out of line. What scares me most about this run for a third term via his surrogate wife is that this man actually thinks he can get away with it through intimidation (fear of the Clinton wrath is driving many uncommitted superdelegates into hiding) and through financial blackmail. Not only would their supporters withhold funding from a presidential campaign, but they would give Congress back to the Republicans if the Clinton Machine does not get the Democratic Nomination!?! It just shows that the Clintons took their political lessons not from JFK and FDR, but from Tammany Hall and the old Chicago Machine of Mayor Daly, Sr. as well as the George W. Bush/Karl Rove play book. I cannot think of anything that would be worse for this country that 8 more years of what we have had for the last 8 years - Corporate control in the hands of unethical, immoral thugs.

http://www.standanddeliveramerica.com

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Male Tyrant Archtype vs Cunning Woman.
Posted by: riotoustanpdx on Apr 3, 2008 5:30 PM   
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First, let me establish that I have always been a McGovern Democrat at heart, and in my voting. Sadly, there has only been one George McGovern, and he was shafted by the Democratic Party old-timers between the convention and the general election.

Obama pretends to be the new McGovern, in some ways, but the Caesar within is easily perceived.

I predict that within one year from today the Hopes and Dreams of the Obama followers will vanish in a tsunami of cynicism. Before or after the election in November, the light will be shown upon the man, and people will feel ashamed for the worship they paid him.

So, exceedingly reluctantly I have moved my support from Richardson, my first choice, to Clinton.

There has been a glaring oversight in this campaign: Women think differently than men; the absence of woman-thought at the highest levels of leadership in this country is our greatest threat to security and well-being.

Obama cannot do what he promises without becoming Caesar, and he should only be trusted so far as it is understood that he is another Caesar in the waiting room.

Clinton is far more likely to address the single Great Issue of 2008-2012: The Entire Environment, of which Global Warming is but ten percent of the problem.

It is the Environment as the Great Issue that will unify this country, and not Barack Obama, who has been purchased by the Death Industries.

I put my hope in "motherly instincts" and not in the desire to become Caesar."

These are the words of Thomas A. Nagy

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OBAMA MAKES BEAUTIFUL SPEECHES AND CERTAINLY ISN'T BAD OFF THE CUFF BUT
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Apr 4, 2008 11:00 PM   
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I am concerned about the vast outpouring of otherwise republican contributors to his campaign. It makes one think that the RNC prefers Obama to Clinton as an opponent in the fall. Moreover, I suspect that they think that if he did win, he would be easier to hoodwink into doing what they want by accident.

If Obama does know that republican money is going into his campaign, then he looks insincere. If he doesn't know it, he looks too naive to be president. Let us hope there might be a viable third explanation.

Obama's speeches are good. One of the best nominating speeches I ever heard was Goldwater's nomination of Dwight David Eisenhower. The speech sounded great. But none of it ever happened. The main thing we got out of Eisenhower was the depression of 1958. That was the beginning of the end of our auto industry. We dropped from 7 to 3 & 1/2 car companies. If we had protected our car companies like Germany did we might be building more than half of our market. He, like Bush, had an unwarrented faith in free markets. Few third world nations are anything but unrestrained free markets. We are going to enter the third world throught the back door.

Pretty speeches are absolutely meaningless.

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