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It's U.S. Supported Colombia's Uribe Who Sounds like the Latin American Dictator

Posted by Joshua Holland, AlterNet at 12:00 AM on April 26, 2008.


With a remarkable interview with Ecuador's Raphael Correa. You won't read anything like it in your local paper.

Editor's Note: This originally appeared on AlterNet's blog, PEEK.

If you read the Washington Post as religiously as I do, you probably have a pretty good grasp of the taxonomy of Latin American leaders.

Venezuela's Hugo Chavez is a brutal dictator whose crimes include saying mean things about George W. Bush, sponsoring leftist terror groups, using Venezuela's oil revenues to sway elections in the region and, perhaps most egregious of all, banning the Simpsons! Oh, and winning a bunch of elections.

He's followed by evo Morales, who is a walking, talking race card and just won't let bygones be bygones when it comes to Bolivia's traditional elites -- those friendly light-skinned plutocrats who own all the land. He's a dictator too.

Then there are "moderates" like Chile's Michelle Bachelet. She might call herself a socialist, but Chile's into "free trade" and has a privatized Social Security system from the Pinochet era, so, meh.

Colombia's Alvaro Uribe, of course, is a close Washington ally, a recipient of massive amounts of U.S. security assistance and is widely regarded as a beacon of democracy. Yes, he's a former narco-terrorist who was a close personal friend of Pablo Escobar, and, yes, labor leaders and protest organizers are routinely assassinated in Colombia. And, sure, Uribe's cousin and close confidant was arrested last week for his ties to right-wing terrorist groups -- joining "More than 30 current or former members of Congress, the vast majority allies of the president, [who] have been arrested for allegedly backing and benefiting from the illegal right-wing bands" -- and, OK, now there are allegations that Uribe himself might have had a hand in the assassinations of 15 lefties in the 1990s.

But he's a bulwark of democracy, dammit, and we have to sign a trade deal with him before those socialists ban The Family Guy.

Then there's Ecuador's Rafael Correa -- young, good-looking and not at all fond of neoliberalism. The LA Times' handy pocket guide to Latin American politics lists him as a "Harvard-trained Chavez ally" (He never attended Harvard, but, you know, the facts don't much matter when reporting on Latin America).

Correa is trying to clean up his intelligence agencies, which he says are "totally infiltrated and subjugated to the C.I.A." He's also booting the U.S. out of an airbase it’s very much enjoyed using for the past decade. According to the New York Times, "the agreement, negotiated under extreme economic distress by a Ecuadorean president who was overthrown months later, includes no rent for Ecuador." Sweet deal, and losing it has ruffled some feathers in the seat of Pax Americana; as our friend the Borev* noted, "the U.S. Southern Command is cutely pretending to 'respect Ecuador's decision' until his plane goes down mysteriously over Panama or something."

Correa's recently been in the news for his high-profile clash with Uribe, whose administration bombed Ecuador last month, possibly with U.S. help. Reuters tells me that Correa is "facing ire" at home for constantly dissing Uribe "because Ecuadoreans want him to focus instead on fighting inflation and spurring an anemic economy."

Correa, whose confrontational style discomfits many Ecuadoreans, still refuses to restore ties or even talk with his conservative counterpart, limiting his comments to a public discourse laced with accusations such as "bare-faced liar."

How bad is the backlash against Correa among the good people of Ecuador?

According to the country's most influential pollster Cedatos-Gallup poll, Correa's popularity bounced at the height of the Colombia crisis in mid-March to 66 percent ... but that support began to erode as the spat dragged on, dipping to 62 percent by April.

God, they friggin' hate him!

(Side note: the first quotes are from the story's lede and the fifth paragraph; the fact that Correa's approval rating has in fact declined just a tad, from a peak of 66 percent to a still-quite-impressive 62 percent, is found buried in the 20th and penultimate graph. Noam Chomsky said that one should always read the final three paragraphs of mainstream news stories first.)

Anyway, all of this is a lengthy preamble to a fascinating interview Correa gave to the Spanish Público, the likes of which you won't find in the WaPo anytime soon. Spanish speakers can consult the original here. The translation below is by Machetera, which you should bookmark and consult on a regular basis. Reprinted by permission of Miss Machetera herself ...

My Hands are Clean and Bloodless, Something Uribe Can't Say - Interview with Rafael Correa, President of Ecuador

Gorka Castillo - Público

Translation: Machetera

The British writer Richard Gott considers Colombia to be the main element in the region's instability. Do you share his view?

This is nothing new, rather something that goes way back. Colombia is the only country that has paramilitaries, guerrillas, drug traffickers, extensive coca cultivation and extensive zones of the country uncontrolled by the state. Paramilitarism and narco-politics doesn't exist in Ecuador. Nor do we cultivate coca. Those are exclusively Colombian terms. I say this regretfully because [the Colombians] are our brothers, but Colombia today is the focus of the greatest instability that exists in Latin America and this hurts all of us.

Do you wish to say that the Colombian government's image in Latin America is not a good one?

Uribe's government is completely discredited. We've already pointed out his lies; now no-one believes him.

In Europe it's not seen that way.

It's true that in the European Union as much as the United States, the backing of his lies by some powerful media has harmed us and for that reason, very soon, I will undertake a tour of Europe to let people know about Ecuador and show that we are a decent government and a peaceful land. What's problematic is on the other side of the border. We're victims of the Colombian conflict. We're not perpetrators nor are we accomplices.

You give the impression that a media war has been launched.

It's not that I'm giving that impression, it's that it's a fact. We know with whom we are dealing; with a militaristic country, with a president who has an imperfect past, with enormous support from foreign intelligence agencies and with an impressive propaganda machine. We have faith that the truth and justice will prevail. We've already achieved that in Latin America, where Colombia has been soundly defeated politically, diplomatically and informationally.

What drives Colombia to accuse its neighboring countries of collaboration with the FARC?

Uribe's militaristic policies began when he became president. First in contradicting the strategy of his predecessor, Andrés Pastrana, who came to embrace Manuel Marulanda. But in came Uribe with the hard line and he wanted us all to do the same. He's like the little emperor who follows his boss's dictates. It's obvious that his political and economic power is based on the struggle against the FARC. Peace is not convenient for Uribe because fighting guerrillas gives the Colombian electorate a secure feeling. What is troubling is that this conflict is spilling over the borders.

But before the bombing on March 1, relations between the two countries were ruled by respect.

Uribe has always shown a lack of respect toward Ecuador. So much so that our territory continues to be fumigated with glyphosate and to the point of frequently violating our airspace with their planes. Anyway, as to the March 1 bombing, there's a question that still remains unanswered.

What?

They had Raúl Reyes' group under their control when they could still be found on Colombian soil. Why did they wait until they passed over to Ecuador to kill them?

Why?

Was it by any chance done in order to involve Ecuador in a conflict that is not theirs? Was it not a matter of intimidation? Could it have been to force us to participate in Plan Colombia? What Uribe didn't count on was our response, nor the condemnation he received from the countries in the OAS. The plan failed because we didn't fall for it.

During the meeting of the Rio Group in Santo Domingo, you showed your hands to Uribe and told him to take a good look at them because they are clean and without blood. What were you referring to?

Uribe has tried to involve us, not only my government, but also the Armed Forces, as supporters of the FARC. Later he alleged that my presidential campaign had been financed by the guerrillas. It's disgraceful. Where does this gentleman get off, after having violating every international law, accusing us of support for guerrilla groups whose actions we've said a thousand times we reject; it's insulting. That's why I told him to look at my hands. Just to highlight the contradiction with Uribe's position, which has been so scandalously related to drug trafficking. His warmongering policy is not going to end the conflict, instead it will exacerbate it and he's going to leave thousands dead as a result. My hands are clean and bloodless. That's something Uribe cannot say.

However they continue to claim that you were aware of the FARC's activities in your territory. They say that you were warned as many as 16 times of guerrilla bases in your territory, and were ignored. Is it true?

This is an unbelievable infamy. All my orders are on record. It's all so coarse and ridiculous that we've decided it's not worth answering. It's just that we don't know why he does it. Just when relations improve with him, something strange happens and you get stabbed in the back. Something in his head's not working right.

How is it possible that this climate of tension has been reached if at the end of the Rio Group meeting, you managed to shake hands?

That's Álvaro Uribe Vélez. Something's wrong. His behavior is terribly psychotic.

Is it true that Reyes had contacted the French in order to negotiate the liberation of Ingrid Betancourt, when he was bombed?

Uribe doesn't want peace, nor does he want hostages released, because Betancourt is a potential presidential candidate. It's true that we'd known that contact would be made in a neutral third country in order to liberate them later on Ecuadoran soil. President Chávez also asked me if we could receive hostages in our territory because a transfer over the Colombian-Venezuelan border had become very dangerous. We were in the middle of that process. Those movements toward liberation of the hostages that the guerrillas entrusted to Reyes were precisely the reason Reyes was destroyed.

Ecuador has just denounced Colombia before the Hague Tribunal for illegal spraying on its territory.

The verdict will still take many years but we hope that a stiff sentence will be handed down to force Bogotá to suspend the aerial glyphosate spraying they've been doing since 2006. These fumigations have caused Ecuadoran farmers on the border to leave their homes, lose their crops, their income, and have caused serious illnesses, even death. However, do you know what the Colombian government's reaction has been up until today? It's to say that our demand that the spraying cease coincides with the FARC's pleas. It's shameful.

The crisis has revealed huge cracks in the Ecuadoran intelligence system that have caused military leadership to be relieved of its duties. What reforms should it undertake?

Something serious is going on with our intelligence services. We still don't have all the firm data but we can say that we have been infiltrated by the CIA and this agency works for Colombia.

There are some who criticize you for being naive in having waited so long to change the military leadership, with its loyalties to the prior regime.

They're probably right. And also for having trusted Bogotá. You might say that we underestimated the threat of external attack once things had been resolved with Perú and we had good relations with Colombia. But we underestimated the fact that Uribe was there.

[SNIP]

Are you thinking of eliminating the concessions for resource extraction by large companies?

The new Constitution that is now being debated in the Constituent Assembly is part of a new legal framework for this issue. We will change the law made by those indescribable bureaucrats at the World Bank, that was such a disaster. It managed to grant more than 4,000 concessions, of which 70% never even managed to start any operation whatsoever. The contracts will be renegotiated. A very short time ago we met with Repsol. The interest is mutual. As long as the workers and the environment are respected and the state is paid the taxes it is owed, there will not be problems and the projects will be profitable. The oil belongs to the state, and we want the contracts to be signed for services rendered.

Machetera is a member of Tlaxcala, the network of translators for linguistic diversity.

* Many hat-tips to the BoRev throughout.

Digg!

Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.


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FYI : John Pilger
Posted by: mmckinl on Apr 26, 2008 2:48 AM   
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19795.htm

Latin America: the attack on democracy

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» RE: FYI : John Pilger Posted by: celeborn
Now a serious version, please?
Posted by: elgeck0 on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 AM   
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The tongue-in-cheek version only works with people like yourselves who are already up to speed on the realities of Latin America. For those like myself who unfortunately are not, how about having Joshua do a serious Who's Who in Latin American Politics so the rest of us can get up to speed?

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» Do your own research! Lazy readers. . . Posted by: thoughtcriminal
» It's attitudes like that... Posted by: truthteller
excellent . . .
Posted by: bigassbelle on Apr 26, 2008 6:04 AM   
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i am always disheartened to hear the reactions of folks i meet in the US to hugo chavez. he's the only latin american leader anyone here has ever heard of, and the instant response is, almost without exception, a small shudder followed by expressions of horror that such a brutal dictator, dangerous to the US, could be allowed to continue.

i don't know what we're going to do in this country with such a corrupt media. if americans knew the reality of what has happened in latin america and how we supported the destruction of whole economies, torture, all of it, they'd be horrified. at least i hope so.

will we ever wake up in the US and realize that we've been completely brainwashed on free trade and socialism and what those things really mean? this is an excellent piece. thank you.

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» RE: excellent . . . Posted by: WitchKingAgmar69
» RE: excellent . . . Posted by: bettyn
Fortunately, the CIA is getting really easy to read these days
Posted by: channing on Apr 26, 2008 6:42 AM   
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Pakistan, I mean Columbia has been the CIA-Mercenary center of the region for decades while its neighbors are the continuous recipients of "strange things" that disrupt peace, stability, trade and treaty. Pakistan, I mean Columbia has been run by a certifiably-brutal dictator who takes hoards of American Tax Dollars channeled through the CIA, the Intelligence Budget (thanks Rockefeller) and Overt funding approved by Congress for "drug and terrorism interdiction". Pakistan, I mean Columbia is barely governed at all, with tribal/regional groups controlling most of the territory while a veritable cut-throat government absconds with the natural and mineral rights, international banking, military hardware and other petty issues the good people of Pakistan, I mean Columbia shouldn't be bothered with.

Take any conflict-ravaged no-man's-land, like, Iraq (now), and just watch the CIA's hand: Losing $10 billion dollars in cash and weapons in one single country isn't easy, but the CIA did it. Take Darfur, anywhere "terrorism" has been plaguing low-profile people, you'll find the US State Department with a "label" which officially sanctions overt and covert spending. Go ahead, check it out... Terrorism practically disappeared from Europe after Italy's CIA shut down "Operation Gladio", likewise, it's almost as if there wouldn't be any terrorism in the world today without US/CIA involvement.

How about Afghanistan, getting rid of a religious-based peace-minded Taliban and replacing them with permanent no-man's-landism, increased drug and weapons-traffic, lots of "terrorism" stuff, oh, and of course a Permanent Requirement for Western Military Presence... did I mention the CIA?

Correa has his work cut out for him, but he should take heart that not only is he right on, but also there is a growing movement world-wide to rid itself of Al CIAda and other tentacles of global imperialism. Imagine trying to dismantle the CIA and the DoD here in the US... the banking system and Wall Street... the old-line shadow elite... now we're getting somewhere, maybe even "democracy".

South America will be sooo much better off getting people like Uribe out of the middle of South American decision making, but Paraguay and Uruguay are where the real trouble is brewing including water, extradition and land rights. It's so "quiet" there compared to Columbia... and that, my friend is how they do American Politics too...

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» Just one quibble Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: Just one quibble Posted by: channing
Now those Commies are trying to screw with the free market in food!
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 26, 2008 9:03 AM   
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CARACAS, April 23 (Reuters) - Leftist leaders from four Latin American countries vowed to work together to grow more food on Wednesday, blaming capitalism and speculation for soaring world prices that are hurting many poor nations.

The presidents of Bolivia, Nicaragua and Venezuela, and Cuba's vice-president, launched a $100 million fund for staples such as rice, beans and corn to mitigate sharp rises in world grain prices.

The leaders said high prices, which have sparked riots from Egypt to Haiti, were largely caused by a U.S. policy to make ethanol fuel from corn.


Wow! Is Reuters full of it, or is Chavez full of it? Don't forget, gentle reader, that while these guys are all "untrustworthy leftists", Chavez doesn't want to stop importing his dirty sulfurous sour crude into the United States any more than Saudi Arabia does.

But - he's a leftist! I thought they had a higher moral view on the world, and were not just money grubbing businessmen... but then, I am a sucker.

They do have a few further points, however:

He said a regional food distribution system was needed to cut out the middle-men who he says take advantage of tight supplies to increase prices.

"We have to create a regional trade network to stop us falling into the hands of speculators," he said.


Yes, very good idea. However, Venezuela and Colombia do have a few things in common with Brazil and the U.S. - the oil industry.

In the U.S., the politics trump reality. Amy Goodman interviews Huga Chavez, praises him, and never asks him about the oil. Right wing media outlets talk to Uribe, praise him, and never ask him to discuss cocaine traffiking by his right-wing buddies - only by the FARC.

Maybe we can market Venezuelan oil and FARC cocaine to the American lefties, and market Colombian oil and Uribe paramilitary cocaine to the American righties, and then everyone will be happy - and, bonus time, with all the American dollars the Colombians, Bolivians and Venzuelans get from sales of their products abroad, they can buy guns from us (we make a lot of those) and have a nice little war!

The modern global economy in action. Amazing, isn't it?

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» Or if you ever have the time... Posted by: asilsfable
Uribe should take more care in choosing his friends
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 26, 2008 11:25 AM   
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Just ask Noriega.

jdfu!

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The enemy of my enemy.........
Posted by: carbon-based on Apr 26, 2008 4:56 PM   
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The author left out some very important details about Chavez.. banning media not partial to him - censoring political groups opposing him - forcefully dealing with student protes - nationalizing entire industries stealing billions in infrastructure from foreign investors...

If he were in America, I'd suspect he would not be on the progressives most liked list! They only seem to like him because he hates our government...

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» RE: The enemy of my enemy......... Posted by: Luther Blissett
» RE: The enemy of my enemy......... Posted by: carbon-based
Dump The Shrub-Take out your own Garbage FIRST!
Posted by: williameon on Apr 27, 2008 7:11 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The Shrub is a Terrorist and Dictator, Get rid of our own Garbage FIRST!

Poor South America our Southern Neighbor has to show
The Big Bully how to do it right.
With nothing except hard work, cooperation, peacefulness, helpfulness, truthfulness, human Dignity and the infallible human Spirit.

The Bolivian President is one of the best examples of a
Human Being that I have seen come down the Pipe in a long Time.
It is a wonder to hear him speak!
Give yourself a treat.
LISTEN to him speak The Truth.

An indigenous leader speaking the indigenous language.
Words filled with hope, sanity and respect for people and this Planet.
The Mother Earth.
What a Man!
Humble, Bright and Good.
Everything that is absent from our cesspool of a Government and Mis-leaders.
I prey:
“Great Spirit, grant him a long and healthy life.”

Meanwhile
The Good Old Boy
W for WRONG Bush
Has trouble putting a sentence together.
What’s up with that?

Animal House U.S.A.
Shrub the Braggart, Coward, Liar and Bully is busy
Killing children here and the world over.
Things at home are starting to unravel.

Hugo gives more aid to the poor in America than
Exxon does.
You figure it out!
Leave him alone.

Maybe after halve of us die in some Corpirate Disaster or
The next False Flag Operation?
The Light will go on and we will finally
Clean house.

Lead by example.
Tough Guy.
Take out your own Garbage First.

Stop pointing your Finger, Guns and Faux Media
At everybody else.
The shit is piling up back home.
Shut down
The Rovien Faux Media
BU__! SH__!
Factory!

Clean House
Start Over
REBOOT!

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People love to talk about Chavez ...
Posted by: Joshua Holland on Apr 27, 2008 11:41 AM   
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It's interesting. Chavez is mentioned in one or two graphs above, but he's certainly not the focus of the post.

Yet both here, and over at Kos where I cross-posted this, pretty much everyone wants to talk about Hugo. (In another context, I wrote a piece a while ago titled, "It's Always Hugo, Hugo, Hugo.")

Did anyone comment on Raphael Correa? I guess there's been some mention about Alvaro Uribe.

I'm not complaining about the commenters -- just noting it as a matter of interest.

I see it as a product of our media's tendency to personalize international issues. We never have diplomatic problems with a country, it's always Hugo Chavez or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong Il or Manuel Noriega or Saddam Hussein or whomever.

And so it is with a region like Latin America, where profound political and economic changes have taken place not only in Venezuela, but in a half dozen other countries, and Hugo Chavez has apparently been made a figurehead for the whole region, and that has to be part of the reason we tend to either fetishize and demonize the guy, depending on our perspective.

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» "It's Always Hugo, Hugo, Hugo" Posted by: hurricane hugo
» It's All About OIL, OIL, OIL Posted by: sofla100
» Thanks Joshua! Posted by: WhuThe?!?
An Enemy of Washington and Wall Street
Posted by: sofla100 on Apr 27, 2008 6:45 PM   
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Chavez biggest crime, for Washington, is taxing up to half or more, of the revenue from oil exports, This effectively robs Wall Street of billions. Foreign investors then are limited to double digits, instead of the expected triple and quadruple digit returns they expected. This is what Wall Street sees and the politicians she owns see in Washington. This is what it's all about. As for the millions of Venezuelans who now have access to education and health care, they stand by Chavez. In a country where 1% owned 50% of the countries wealth (in America the top 1% just owns 1/3rd of the wealth), the vast majority of citizens lived in povery and sqalor. Often, without any food to eat. From Washington's point of view, this was perfect. More cheap labor. For Chavez, this was a crime against his people and against humanity. He has set about to change things. Do the people of Venezuela love him, you betcha. Does Washington and Wall Street hate him, of course!

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Murdoch obsessed with the Columbia Trade Agreement ..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Apr 27, 2008 10:31 PM   
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I watched on C-Span Friday I believe it was at first Henry Kissinger speaking before the Atlantic Council and he was introducing Rupert Murdoch since it's rare you see this scum bag speak I decided to watch..

Murdoch went on about some things such as the weakening NATO Alliance and other issues in general but the main point and most important part of this talk was the need to sign the Columbian Free Trade Agreement..

Now on this he went on and on and towards the end as a closing Murdoch swore that failure to sign the Columbian Free Trade Agreement would be the biggest geo-political mistake America could make..

Imagine that not signing this trade agreement with Columbia could be our greatest geo-political error..!

Not the invasion of Iraq which is ruining us around the world and our economy and caused the death of over 4,000 Americans and over 35,000 wounded but even moreso since that's a done deal or already occurred..

Murdoch thinks not singing the trade deal with Columbia would be a greater geo-political mistake than attacking Iran..!

Attacking 70,000,000 Shiites in Iran is not a bigger mistake than failure to sign a trade agreement with Columbia..!

It goes to show you just how warped and perverted these super right wing fascists like Murdoch are, the same as watching Antoni Scalia on 60 Minutes tonight, they are warped and have perverted their own brains to such a degree they will never see the truth or take responsibility for all the harm and damage they have done to our nation and it's people..We The People..

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Spraying
Posted by: zeofredo on Apr 28, 2008 4:57 AM   
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I'm curious to know what the nature of this alleged spraying over Ecuador is about and if it is Colombia's planes alone that are being used.

If someone can refer me to a dependable report of the trial at The Hague concerning aerial spraying, I'd appreciate this.

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My two cents
Posted by: crazy carlos on Apr 28, 2008 8:38 AM   
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I have been going to South America during the wintwer months for the past 5 years (mostly in Brasil and Argentina with a few side trips to Chile and Uruaguay) and intend to head into the area of Ecuador this winter.

Yea, some so. Americans view Chavez as a loose cannonball but overall he is favorably viewed for the most part. Coloumbia is almost totally viewed as a pariah state along with Paraguay. Mr. U. is nothing but a step and fetchit for the U.S. --all he wants is our $$$.

That part of S.A. is really something of a shambles since our Chicago economists got hold of them in the 70s and 80s. believe almost nothing you read out of the U.S. media--they are too lazy to find out anything for themselves. If Bush messes with this whole thing now we will totally lose out in South America. We are losing credibility down south so fast it is unreal. Crazy Carlos

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Columbia
Posted by: skunkln on Apr 28, 2008 10:50 AM   
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Columbia is a university; Colombia is a country in South America.

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