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Take Two Impeachments and Call Me in the Morning

Posted by Joshua Holland at 3:00 PM on July 3, 2007.


Joshua Holland: The cure for Bush scandal fatigue.
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I will give Bush credit for one thing: he has cured me of my scandal fatigue. After six years under the crop of thugs that occupy the White House, I'd become like an abused child: emotionally tapped out and unable to muster more than the proverbial 1,000 yard stare as each new offense by this rogue administration came to light. But while the latest "signing statement" had lost the ability to elicit much more than a desultory shrug from me in recent months, Bush's decision to spring Scooter out of the hoosegow has made me a righteous, hot-under-the-collar pissed-off moonbat again.

Thanks, Shrub, for restoring my capacity for outrage.

I'm not sure why my reaction to this latest insult to the rule of law is so visceral. Surely, one more crony getting off the hook pales in comparison to the domestic wiretapping, illegal wars of aggression, the unvarying contempt for Congress (much less the electorate) and the constant, almost obsessive lies. But something about springing Scooter -- that smug war criminal bastard -- makes the blood boil.

I guess it's the fact that this is an outrage on a human scale -- Libby's not serving time simply because of who he is. We are a nation of men, and not laws, after all. It is the height of elitism -- Bush, who contemptuously sneered to reporters about a woman begging him for her life from Texas' death row can now find the "compassion" to keep this criminal out of jail for two and a half years (a sentence that may well have been commensurate with the offenses for which he was convicted, but was waaay too light given his real crimes -- being one of the architects of the invasion of Iraq and playing a role in blowing the cover of a covert CIA agent in order to smear a political opponent).

Anyway, all of this proves yet again how profoundly anti-American members of this administration (and their supporters) truly are. And it seems like an appropriate time to retract the argument I made some months ago against impeachment. I don't flatter myself that anyone's paying too much attention to where I stand on the issue, but for those who took me to task: you were 100% right and I was 100% wrong.

Actually, I haven't flip-flopped on the basic argument: I still think impeachment is all but impossible and I still believe that there would be little taste for cleaning up the rest of the rat's nest after the fact. None of that matters, however, because this administration needs to be held accountable somehow. There are no other ways to do that -- the Constitution was pretty specific -- and they've left us no choice but to try.

At this point, I think they need to be impeached, whether or not they are actually removed from office, for two reasons. The first is to keep them tied up so they have something to keep them busy aside from shredding the Constitution, bombing them some Arabs and lining their cronies' pockets with lucre. Keep 'em busy. Maybe keep 'em from bombing Iran. The second reason is simple: future generations, yet unborn, demand it. Some of the worst thugs in this administration are vets of the Nixon administration -- well-schooled in the ugly brand of politics that drove him -- and I am increasingly of the belief that had Ford not pardoned Nixon -- had Nixon truly been held accountable -- we might not have seen such unchecked extremism as we've experienced in recent years. This bunch of Repubs -- and, let's be clear: entirely too many like them on the other side of the aisle -- are the epitome of elitists. They believe, simply, that they should stand above the law. When you take some of their fellows and you frog-march them down to the penitentiary for a while, it can have a salutary effect on your future governance.

(A third and much less important reason is that I'd like to travel abroad without wearing the Maple Leaf all over my body -- without going in Canadian drag.)

Anyway, I see some of our trolls are making a fuss over impeachment in the threads today ("impeach for what?"). So here are some resources for arguing with them or for persuading that stubbornly centrist neighbor …

A concise summary of the case against the administration with links. Very basic.

The Conyers Report, detailing 26 potentially impeachable offenses committed by the bushies

Elizabeth Holtzman's "The Impeachment of George W. Bush"

John Dean's"The Case for Impeachment"

John Nichols' "In Praise of Impeachment"

If you're looking for something meatier, how about a nice book? They make great gifts.

Like Holtzman's book, The Impeachment of George W. Bush: A Practical Guide for Concerned Citizens

The Case for Impeachment: The Legal Argument for Removing President George W. Bush from Office by Dave Lindorff and Barbara Olshansky

Nichols' The Genius of Impeachment: The Founders' Cure for Royalism

Impeach the President: The Case Against Bush and Cheney, edited by Dennis Loo and Peter Phillips.

And, last but not least, for the wonks among us, Articles of Impeachment drafted by the Center for Constitutional Rights

Digg!

Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.


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Ouch. Pretending to be a Canadian? I've heard of cowardice but that is
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Jul 3, 2007 5:25 PM   
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a new standard! I guess it is necessary when travelling to truely dangerous areas, but even then Canada was a part of the 'coalition of the willing' and hasn't gained much empathy for its clubbing of seals, support for various US/UK wars, and treatment of immigrant Gypsies (not that they should've been allowed to come there.) Canada is a great country and I'm not denigrating them but only that someone feels that they must hide their identity. Why do you have so much fear when you travel? Where are you travelling? Afraid of conversation or, I guess, attack? From whom? Moslems are peaceful people, so obviously they wouldn't attack you, an innocent person and one whom is against the war(s), capitalism, etc. Islam is a religion of peace and they commit no crimes, especially violent ones. Maybe from Europeans? No, again they are a peaceful lot with a perfect history (UK excepted) and a socialist paradise where all races/creeds/nationalities get along. Mexicans? Think again, they are just hard-working, honest people who come here to do jobs 'Americans cant do'. Who are you so afraid of.....?

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I've changed my tune too...
Posted by: SteveB on Jul 3, 2007 5:25 PM   
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A year ago, I was arguing that pushing for impeachment was just a transparent tactic by the Democrats to focus all the anger at Bush, to cover up their own role in the Iraq war, and to help reinforce the false idea that everything was jes' fine here in America until that evil George Bush came along.

Boy, was I wrong.

What won me over was John Nichols argument that impeachment is really about the next President, what signal we send to him/her about what we consider permissible beahvior, and what tools the next President will have in her/his Presidential toolbox (illegal wiretaps? torture?).

As you point out, Ford's pardon of Nixon laid the groundwork for the criminal gang now in power. I would only add the long list of Iran-Contra perpetrators who also received pardons, and were therefore allowed to go free to kill even more innocent people.

We're paying the price for years of impunity at the highest levels, and it's time for it to stop.

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» RE: Most Scandals Much Ado About Nothing Posted by: SatanicJamboree
. Bruce Fein's "Impeach Cheney"
Posted by: aurora2484 on Jul 3, 2007 6:11 PM   
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Bruce Fein was Deputy Attorney General during Reagan's admin. His first call is, "Impeach Cheney".
www.slate.com/id/2169292/pagenum/all/#page_start

Excerpts:
Under Dick Cheney, the office of the vice president has been transformed from a tiny acorn into an unprecedented giant oak. In grasping and exercising presidential powers, Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III.

The vice president asserted presidential power to create military commissions, which combine the functions of judge, jury, and prosecutor in the trial of war crimes. The Supreme Court rebuked Cheney in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld. Mr. Cheney claimed authority to detain American citizens as enemy combatants indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay on the president's say-so alone..
The vice president initiated kidnappings, secret detentions, and torture in Eastern European prisons of suspected international terrorists. This lawlessness has been answered in Germany and Italy with criminal charges against CIA operatives or agents..

The vice president has maintained that the entire world is a battlefield. Accordingly, he contends that military power may be unleashed to kill or capture any American citizen on American soil if suspected of association or affiliation with al-Qaida..

Mr. Cheney has championed a presidential power to torture in contravention of federal statutes and treaties.

He has advocated and authored signing statements that declare the president's intent to disregard provisions of bills he has signed into law that he proclaims are unconstitutional..

The vice president engineered the National Security Agency's warrantless domestic surveillance program targeting American citizens on American soil in contravention of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978. He concocted the alarming theory that the president may flout any law that inhibits the collection of foreign intelligence, including prohibitions on breaking and entering homes, torture, or assassinations..

The vice president has orchestrated the invocation of executive privilege to conceal from Congress secret spying programs to gather foreign intelligence, and their legal justifications..

Cheney scorns freedom of speech and of the press. He urges application of the Espionage Act to prosecute journalists who expose national security abuses, for example, secret prisons in Eastern Europe or the NSA's warrantless surveillance program. He retaliated against Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, Valerie Plame, through Chief of Staff Scooter Libby, for questioning the administration's evidence of weapons of mass destruction as justification for invading Iraq..

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I agree with Aurora. Time to end the reign of Rasputin. Get fatty!
Posted by: Sojourner on Jul 3, 2007 7:03 PM   
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The only thing protecting Bush is that he would be succeeded by Cheney. Bush is just a symptom. Cheney is the disease.

Whose boy was Libby? Who told Libby what to do? And who do you suppose told Bush to commute Libby's sentence?

We all know that Libby's lie was protecting Cheney. In return, Libby could count on being protected. It's the way all criminal enterprises operate.

Nixon's pardon irks me less than the fact that Reagan got off with a warning for running his own private war with the Iran-Contra deal. The current worship of Ronnie among the Repubs is of a man who deliberately broke the law while being sworn to uphold it. Deliberately breaking an oath by actively promoting illegal foreign policy is a whole lot more serious than lying under oath.

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Let's go! Let's go! Let's go!
Posted by: badkitty on Jul 3, 2007 9:32 PM   
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Yesterday afternoon I started with my representative, who has already cosponsored Kucinich's resolution on impeachment and who votes no on war appropriations. Then I emailed my senators and told them to support impeachment of Bush and Cheney. Then I started with Akaka and I'm working my way down the list. I'm at Brownback now. Let's just smother our representatives and the Senate under a pile of email demanding impeachment of Bush and Cheney now. Do I think anything will really happen? No, but I'll tell you, the longer the national government refuses to listen, the more justifiable revolution is. "When in the course of human events..." How much longer are we going to watch the sun going down on the USA?

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About time.
Posted by: oregoncharles on Jul 3, 2007 10:45 PM   
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I thought you'd do this a long time ago.

Of course, it doesn't really matter what Joshua Holland says (or I say). It matters what the Democrats in Congress do. At this point, they choose to keep Bush in office, continue the war, and make deals with the bushies over "free trade". (Remember who got NAFTA & WTO passed?)

We all need to think hard about just why they would do that. It's now clear this is their real agenda - the one they didn't want to tell us about during the campaign. The excuses they give never made sense. They don't have "better things to do", because Bush will veto anything that matters. And they aren't "afraid;" on the contrary, they are defying their own constituents and playing along with a deeply discredited and unpopular administration.

Please, everybody, think hard: why would they do that? What do they gain, besides 20% approval ratings (worse than Bush's)?

And WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

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» RE: About time. Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: About time. Posted by: Astroboy
» RE: About time. Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: About time. Posted by: Astroboy
ZaZa
Posted by: ZaZa on Jul 4, 2007 3:37 AM   
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I am only a humanist RN. I have worked in Hospice since 1992 and also cared for very ill children on respirators and feeding tubes that were a temporary step for them while they waited for surgery like cleft lip or palate/and or other things an infant may have to endure. Why has impeachment taken so long. What does Cheney and Bush have that scares our leadership? I really do not understand their flagrant abuse of power. I said impeach right after Bush was elected/(took power) the first time. Does anyone know what has taken so long and why we as a country have allowed Bush and Cheney to blatantly commit all sorts of crimes. We are responsible as citizens of a (used to be) democracy. We can't just look the other way. Please help make the administrators (Bush and Cheney) accept the consequences of their behavior and criminal acts. Thank you. We must take back our country.

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» Like Black Matter and Black Energy? Posted by: Windwhistler
» Like Catch 22? Posted by: Windwhistler
IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY
Posted by: SackofWoe0 on Jul 4, 2007 4:31 AM   
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How can we as red blooded Americans stand by and not call for Impeachment of the evil twosome? While our loved ones are in harmsway? Please contact your representatives and senators and ask/demand that they sign on to Kuicink bill for impeachment. Haven't they broken enough laws? Can't we break the chains of bondage? Are we gong to stand idly by and allow this dictaorship??

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Jeez... why am i defending my Country and the USA from you Albrect?
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jul 4, 2007 5:15 AM   
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Canada has never been part of the coalition of the willing... part of NATO's commitment to Afghanistan sure... but we were "VERY" vocal about Iraq... Clubbing of the seals... makes you an idiot x2... calling others cowards, passes the idiot scale and now makes you a moron... please try not to speak anymore... I'm rather tired of your child like imbecilic rants

As for Americans traveling the world disguised as Canadians... Canada didn't start this misadventure, and we sure as hell would appreciate it if Americans would not travel the globe pretending to be something they're not... besides America is the most altruistic nation the planet has ever known... All this does, north of the border, is reminds us of the Israeli's agents using Canadian passports to do same rather nasty/dirty work while passing themselves off as Canadians and then getting caught in the act...
This was a much reported and rather disgusting spectacle of a few years back... pretending to be Canadian when your not is not looked upon with much fanfare North of the 49th... so please don't do it... as we have worked hard being what we are... 24/7... 365x140...

I truly wish that Americans traveling overseas wouldn't denigrate there country and mine by pretending to be something you're not... Canada is as much a state of mind as it is a people... besides we all have faults... yours just happen to reside in the Whitehouse atm... Don't worry you just have 18 more months and you can formally charge all the pretenders residing there.

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Impeach them all
Posted by: packofwolves on Jul 4, 2007 6:25 AM   
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The only other thing we can hope for, which might be even better, is that the whole lot of this nasty bunch of politicians will be tried as the war criminals they are by the very governments they have attacked and ridiculed. Criminals like these are bound to turn on one another eventually but their downfall can't possibly be soon enough before they do more major damage to our country and constitution. Libby should be in prison but so should the rest of them. I have never been a Bush fan, I have always been appalled when he stole the presidency and we did nothing about it and then mortified that he stole it twice. These "evil doers" have changed the definition of the word politician into a new name for the worst of organized crime. UNTIL THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE LAWS HAVE TO LIVE BY THEM, NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE. IMPEACH THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM AND THEN THROW THEM TO THE WOLVES.

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Impeachment is not enough.
Posted by: EKSwitaj on Jul 4, 2007 6:35 AM   
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We also need to support leaders who have shown that they are willing to hold this administration accountable. I'm not about to use my vote for a candidate who has not supported impeachment of these criminals.

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wjneill
Posted by: wjneill on Jul 4, 2007 7:29 AM   
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Each of you wants to impeach Cheney and his dummy. That's nice. How do you propose to get the Democratic Party "leaders" in the House and Senate to pursue such action?

Remember that they have done little, if anything, for six years to openly force a change in direction. And, they are still participating in writing earmarks and accepting the attention of the folks on K Street. Actions speak louder than words

Outside of the readers of this and related blogs, what are the KNOWN attitudes of the rest of the citizenry? Sure, we're all in favor of impeachment as a collective group here but what about the rest of America that does not comment on or read these blogs? How do WE intend to attract, acquire, and retain their support?

Until there is intellectual involvement of ALL American citizens in the matters at hand and the portent for the future, WE can pat each other on the back and go our INVIDIVUAL way and not a damn thing is gonna change. No matter how many blogs we read or make commentaries upon.

Billy Bob
People's Democratic Republic of Tecas

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Just Do It
Posted by: Schroeder on Jul 4, 2007 9:37 AM   
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We have to stop thinking that we don't have the power to get anything done. We have to speak out and keep speaking out. Impeach NOW! Tell your representatives they will not be re elected by us if they do not at least try to drive the criminals out of the White House. IT IS OUR GOVERNMENT. "WE THE PEOPLE" ARE NOT bush and cheney. We have the power. Pass it on!

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» RE: Just Do It Posted by: Hedda
Joshua
Posted by: Hedda on Jul 4, 2007 11:13 AM   
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when you wrote....."We are a nation of men, and not laws" were you being sarcastic? I couldn't tell. Just wondering because isn't the actual saying... "we are a nation of laws and not men" (by Chief Justice John Marshall)

I just didn't know it you wrote it the other way intentionally.

Good for you Joshua , being "man" enought to admit that you have seen "the light". although I must admit I'm still waiting for you to come around on a few other issues (like 9-11). I guess I'm still holding on to your piece about rosie and how we are all crazy tin hat people for thinking 9-11 went down differently than what the press and the administration says we should believe.
anyway.

I agree this is a travisty of justice and another smack in the face to the people.
The veil of ilussion is thining on this administrations slide of hand. They keep telling us what they are doing while simoutaniously doing the opposite of what they say. Americans are finally catching on to the charade (all be it, Late, but...) the question now is, What are we gonna do about it?
I say Impeach them both!!!! ( imagine the queen in alice and wonderland saying "off with their heads") Lets kick em' in the junk and take away their power!!!!

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» RE: Joshua Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Joshua Posted by: Hedda
Nixon: impeached, resigned, pardoned. America still suffered.
Posted by: eddie torres on Jul 4, 2007 11:15 AM   
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The Nixon and Ford episodes did not deter Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, and other future CheneyCons from seeking and following career paths that led to the highest levels of US government service in later years.

From Iran-Contra came Abrams, Negroponte, Poindexter, and Otto Reich - and they were originally operating in the shadow of a Democrat-controlled Congress and in the face of laws specifically prohibiting them from supporting the Contras.

The argument that "oh, how could we have known that those specific individuals, out of the hundreds that were involved, would emerge years later to commit more egregious acts" is valid, but naive in light of the demonstrable ideological motivation of this cabal that runs contrary to US constitutional norms.

Henry Waxman has the right strategy: investigate, investigate, investigate. Name names, and issue subpoenas, because this cabal's ideological motivations are pinned to an equally well-developed ability to hide the truth and shield superiors - it took them 30 years to get here. Electoral cycles and Democratic Party media plans should not divert the Democratic Congressional agenda (which is fickle) from the Waxman strategy.

Greg Palast's work has shown that it takes years for the most obvious truths, backed with credible evidence, to seep through the layers of disbelief that Americans have deployed to protect themselves from the ugliness they know lurks in the heart of their politics.

Impeachment won't accelerate the Waxman / Palast strategies.

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» Investigations have another bonus Posted by: eddie torres
THE 4 OF JULY in the Year of King George II
Posted by: michaelo on Jul 4, 2007 11:51 AM   
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THE 4 OF JULY in the Year of King George II and his treasonous cabal:

Never in recent memory, with the exception of the ousting of the government of Richard “I am not a crook Nixon” in the year of 1974, has the intent of this Declaration of Independence from the British tyranny meant less than on this celebratory day. Never since the treasonous attempt by the racist, class elitist Slavocrats of the “confederate states” to destroy this union and the Bill of Rights which underlie the foundation of our representative democracy has times been as perilous as those occasioned by the President’s recent “commutation” of the felon, Scooter Libby.

The usurpation of the presidency by George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney by virtue of legal rulings, rather than a democratic election, was but the first evidence of the end of democratic rights as established in the US Constitution.

The now evidenced acts of crimes and misdemeanors done our nation in the construct, the lies and fabrications put before the national and international governing bodies and the commission of war crimes committed by the Bush-Cheney cabal in their war of aggression against the nation of Iraq only follow a pattern of treasonous conspiracy. This was not a conspiracy hidden in the back rooms. It has been formulated over the last 30 years by those who own the most property, own the most wealth, and control the largest private and government institutions.

White males of position who seek to serve their owners and thus better themselves have spearheaded it; corporate-government hirelings – monopoly managers who believe that only “the business of business” deserves rights. Thus, the petroleum-energy based wars since the establishment of the empire satellite state of Israel and the failing wars of US aggression in South and Central America, South East Asia and on the Korean peninsula have been driven by this greed-ridden monster now governing us.

The commutation of the felon Libby, like the pardon of the treasonous Nixon were not just “good ole boys taking care of good ole boys,” the creed of the brothers of business. These anti-democratic, autocratic actions were protection against the truths these men knew. Nixon who both knew of and had orchestrated the lies of war and the attempt install a dictatorial government during the anti-war – Civil Rights period. Popular movements that both challenged the race and class exploitation and oppression in this nation, that threatened to expose the police state tactics of the burgeoning corporate control of the United States as built upon the foundation as described by his predecessor Eisenhower as the ‘military industrial complex.

And Scooter Libby, who is to the Rove-Cheney-Bush- coup what a premiere quisling in the Nazi high command, was to Hitler and Goebbels:

Libby participated in and has great working knowledge of the machinations that led to the Cheney-Bush takeover of the government; of the Day One presidential conspiracy to take over Iraq, install a US corporate state controlled government and to use such a military base to manage the petroleum market for the western states and to prevent any indigenous form of government from taking control of those under the tyranny of its allied fiefdoms. All these doings are acts of treason and war crimes as judged by the standards of international and national law.

And yes, it is time for us to once again be afraid of the government that rules us. To which we must respond in all righteousness:

“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people,” V from V for Vendetta.

And yes, that time too has come.

An addition to the literature for impeachment is Marjorie Cohn's devastating indictment of Bush for war crimes, COWBOY REPUBLIC

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swan
Posted by: wildswan on Jul 4, 2007 5:16 PM   
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Well written! Thank you for making my fourth. That was exactly what I needed today. Some truth. . . .
http://goodwordswan.wildflowerstew.com

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Yes. Impeach.
Posted by: particle on Jul 4, 2007 6:44 PM   
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The argument for not impeaching seems to be that Nixon's impeachment only engendered bitterness. The alternative has been to chip away at their support--which is worthwhile--but I'm coming to the conclusion that the wing-nuts-in-charge are solidly plugged into a perpetual bile manufacturing machine. At some point people at the top have to be held accountable. I don't see that they've been given sufficient incentive to just be good citizens and let bygones be bygones.

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talk... talk........ talk............. talk....... talk........
Posted by: Voicedude on Jul 4, 2007 6:53 PM   
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» Fantastic point Posted by: eddie torres
Red Brown and Blue Party comment
Posted by: redbrownandblueparty on Jul 4, 2007 9:14 PM   
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The question was raised above about the role the democrats have been playing in this. Here's my take. The democrats are gate keepers, safety valves for the system. They keep out dangerous ideas due to their supposed idealism and let out steam when the system is threatened with self destruction. The back room bankers use both parties as needed. The big bankers know Bush is now a liability after serving his purpose of softening up the populace so they are cutting him loose. They gave the orders to pardon Libby knowing it will put the democrats in power. The democrats have already been bought off or intimidated. The democrats will save the system and appear as saviors, give the people false hope, effect a few window dressing changes while allowing the system to go on as usual. In the meantime, the people are further cowed and will docilely go along the path to world government by the rich bankers. The democrats have been frightened ever since the mega bankers killed JFK for daring to introduce another currency not under the bankers' control through executive order 11,110, Take it for what it's worth from an amateur arm chair observer.

BTW, you're invited to the inauguration of The Love Government TM aka The Lover Government TM in Ojai, California on 07/07/07 at 0707 at the town fountain. Should be a lucky day. It's sponsored by the Red Brown and Blue Party.

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How America Will Be Lost
Posted by: mayortom on Jul 7, 2007 7:33 PM   
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All of this talk ignores one basic, unspoken reality: the people of America don't have the guts or the principles to do anything about Bush and Cheney. Obsessed by their own personal materialism, most Americans are concerned only about themselves individually. They will not support calls for impeachment or resignations because they are too narcissistic to pay attention to what Bush et al are doing to them. In January of 2009, Bush and his cronies will leave office fat and happy and unscathed for all of their public sins. And the new administration, taking its cue from its immediate predecessor, will continue the carnage of America until corruption becomes an accepted practice. Then America will be gone.

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