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Will Bob Barr Be McCain's Very Own Ralph Nader in 2008?

Posted by Howie Klein, Down With Tyranny! at 2:07 PM on April 4, 2008.


How badly will another cranky old right-winger in the presidential race hurt McCain?

How badly will another cranky old right-winger in the presidential race hurt McCain? Looks like we're about to find out. Far right extremist, Georgia ex-Congressman Bob Barr, has been muttering darkly of late about how the Insider GOP Establishment has abandoned conservative principles. He happens to think McCain has morphed into George Bush and agrees that a McCain presidency would basically just be a third term for Bush. He's been talking openly about running for president as an independent and this weekend he is expected to announce his candidacy at the Heartland Libertarian Conference in Kansas City, where he is scheduled to speak.

"There's been a tremendous expressed to me both directly and indirectly on the Internet. I take that support very seriously, and I think it also reflects a great deal of dissatisfaction with the current candidates and the current two-party system. So it is something, to be honest with you, that I'm looking very seriously at... Ron Paul tapped into a great deal of that dissatisfaction and that awareness. Unfortunately, working through the Republican party structure, it became impossible for him to really move forward with his movement. But we have to have ....a rallying point out there to harness that energy, that freedom in this election cycle.
"What we've fallen into in recent years-- not just since 9/11, but particularly since 9/11-- is this notion that, in order to protect ourselves, we have to preemptively go into and-- in the case of Iraq-- occupy another sovereign nation. Simply saying, 'Gee, it's better to fight over in this other nation and destroy another nation, so we're not potentially attacked here, is the height of arrogance."

Today's Moonie Times speculates that a Barr bid could hurt McCain's already slim chances to slip into the White House. He would probably negate whatever benefit McCain would get from Nader's run, although progressives overwhelmingly blame Nader for all the damage Bush has caused and are unlikely to vote for him in any significant way. He's unlikely to break even 1% of the vote anywhere. Barr, an NRA board member and a hero to rabid Clinton-haters, would probably attract far more voters among Republicans than Nader would among Democrats. Most Democrats are happy with either Obama, the likely winner, or Clinton. Many Republicans, especially the dominant conservative wing, are still mistrustful of McCain.

Republican campaign pros said a Barr bid could range from causing them some damage all the way to being the equivalent of Ross Perot's 1992 presidential bid, which many Republicans think split their party's voters, unseating then-President Bush and electing Democrat Bill Clinton.

Gun rights fanatics don't like McCain and there are plenty of Republicans who have been schooled by extremists like Limbaugh to hate McCain for his "support" for campaign finance reform. The Moonies interviewed Michigan's crackpot Republican Party Chairman Saul Anuzis, who said Barr would do well in fascist-leaning states like Texas but it wouldn't matter because McCain would win by a big enough margin there to triumph anyway. Anuzis apparently hasn't been watching the demographic shifts in certain parts of the country. In any case, he acknowledges that where Barr would kill McCain's chances are in the swing states, GOP strategists are counting on-- Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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Howie Klein is the creator of the blog Down With Tyranny!


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Good that the GOP is in disarray
Posted by: rury on Apr 4, 2008 2:39 PM   
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because that helps the fractured Democratic Party, and fractured it is because I know hundreds of Obama supporters (myself among them) who will either not vote, vote for Ralph Nader or write somebody in if Billary is the nominee.
I'll certainly not put a hypocritical, crooked, power-grabbing, triangulating Clinton back in the White House.
And the hundreds that I have spoken with are only a drop in the bucket in this vast nation of fired up, ready-to-go Barack backers!
No more of the Bush/Clinton dynasty...it's Barack or bust!

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The new and improved Bob Barr
Posted by: Frank J. Burris on Apr 4, 2008 2:54 PM   
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Since leaving Congress Bob Barr has become a Libertarian and, in my opinion, a pretty decent, though not perfect, guy. Whereas he was a Drug War zealot in the past, he now works as a lobbyist for the Marijuana Policy Project. He has also developed a new outlook on gay rights and has called for a repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" to enable gays to serve openly. Plus he has become a member of and done work for the ACLU. So if Hillary gets the nomination, I'll consider voting for him.

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» RE: The new and improved Bob Barr Posted by: left_libertarian
» RE: The new and improved Bob Barr Posted by: Frank J. Burris
» RE: The new and improved Bob Barr Posted by: Frank J. Burris
All I really know about Bob Barr
Posted by: Fishbone Soldier on Apr 5, 2008 2:14 PM   
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is that Borat fed him some cheese that his wife made. She made it with milk from her tit.

And yes, like some of the other commenters here, I'm voting for a third-party candidate (likely the Green party). Since I live in Illinois, I might as well throw some love around. My vote won't really matter anyway.

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» RE: All I really know about Bob Barr Posted by: Bobby Decker
this is another confusing thing
Posted by: Joe on Apr 5, 2008 2:31 PM   
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about alternet. on one hand alternet post articles claiming "where is our democracy" then then shoot democracy down when multiple people run with titles like will barr be mccain's nader. so on one hand you want many people participating in democracy (which should involve as many options as possible) but when people run that "may take votes away from a candidate" they are labeled as being spoilers. im sure if cythia mcckinny had higher recognition there would be articles criticizing her (republican shill, taking money from republican, etc).

another great contradiction.

another reason i say there is no difference worth fighting over between democrats and republicans....and hillary, john mccain and obama are the proof. how can you claim a difference when both democrats and republicans use the same tactics.

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Let's be just a tad careful before we party.
Posted by: Longdream on Apr 6, 2008 10:03 AM   
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No Republican has a reasonable chance this time out, and Clinton is gone, no matter what algorithm she uses to define her candidacy.

I don't know anything much about Barr yet, but if he's Ron Paul without the hidden agenda, he could siphon off more people than just Republicans who think McCain is a bad deal. People whose racism trumps their politics, for instance. People who, for some reason, live and die by the Clintons and won't vote for Barack because he beat her.

This is a very personal election for most of us, and it seems, at least on the boards and on the radio I listen to, that people are voting their feelings more this time out than ever before. And I don't think Papa Nader enters into it at all.

I know that Barack is our next President. He's a force of nature, and that's because he represents for an overwhelming majority of us (don't believe the polls that are taken on land-line phones) the embodiment of what the country needs right now: solid principles, talent, brilliance, and guts.


BARACK OBAMA, 44th PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

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Bob Barr...
Posted by: adp3d on Apr 7, 2008 9:05 PM   
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...or Ralph Nader or Michael Bloomberg or anyone with the stones to run as President against the Two-Party Party is alright with me. The more choices the American people the better off for us all.

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