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Hagel: A Defense of the Surge 'Dismissing' Over '900 Dead Americans' Is Wrong

Posted by Ali Frick, Think Progress at 5:40 AM on March 24, 2008.


Previously, McCain has insisted that the level of American casualties is the “key” metric by which to measure to the surge’s success.
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Earlier this week, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said he “will be glad to stake my campaign on the fact that [the surge] has succeeded,” effectively shackling himself to President Bush’s Iraq policy. Previously, McCain has insisted that the level of American casualties is the “key” metric by which to measure to the surge’s success:

The surge is succeeding and the key to it is not American presence, it’s American casualties and by any measure, we are succeeding and the political process is succeeding.

On ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopolous today, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) bluntly disagreed with McCain’s assessment of the surge’s success, saying it’s wrong to “dismiss” over “900 dead Americans since the surge” began as “success”:

We have lost over 900 dead Americans since the surge. Now if you want to dismiss that as ’success’ that would be your interpretation.

McCain frequently dismisses questions about his claim that he wouldn’t mind if U.S. troops were in Iraq for “a hundred years” by insisting that “the point is American casualties.” Yet, as Hagel points out, in repeatedly insisting that the surge is a success, McCain downplays the fact that American soldiers are still dying in Iraq on a regular basis.

As of today, the Pentagon has confirmed the deaths of 3,991 U.S. soldiers in Iraq since the start of the war. Four more reported casualties are awaiting confirmation.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Since this post was written the death toll of US soldiers of Iraq has reached 4,000

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Ali Frick is a Research Associate for The Progress Report and ThinkProgress.org at the Center for American Progress.


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Posted by: Suasponte on Mar 24, 2008 8:30 AM   
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Chuck Hagel, a decorated Viet Nam veteran (his brother served with him,as well), has been a critic of Bush's foreign policies and especially the Iraq War for years now. He is a moderate Republican in the mold of the Eisenhower-Rockefeller Eastern Republicans although he is a Senator from Nebraska. He was active in McCain's 2000 campaign when McCain was a very different candidate, but who has flip-flopped and rolled over and contorted and prostrated himself before the far right wing crowd that supported Bush and his egregiously failed policies domestic and foreign.

I was very disappointed when Hagel decided not to seek the presidential nomination for 2008. Worse, he has decided not to seek re-election as a Senator. He would have outshone and stood head and shoulders above all the others seeking the Republican nomination.

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Perhaps
Posted by: warriornation on Mar 24, 2008 11:19 AM   
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because Hagel is one of the few moderate republicans, the Republican machine probably shut him down and pressured him to not go for reelection in the Senate.

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97 Pages
Posted by: blackie4aces on Mar 24, 2008 3:01 PM   
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Apparently it is overwhelmingly easy for the elite power structure to dismiss the death and suffering of the "cannon fodder" class, reduced according to some to a "metric" of success. Who, and how many, will become part of the unlucky continued statistical success? How well I remember the "metric" of a war fought over thirty years ago. It was the body count. Not ours, but theirs. As it turned out it was a faulty one.

Four thousand men and women no longer have lives to live. 10-15 thousand have wounds so severe that their lives will be significantly altered forever. Some of these will have almost no lives at all. So easy it seemed for the pols in House and Senate to cast a vote. Some (or most?) did not even bother to read the intelligence report thier votes were supposedly based on. 97 pages, 4000 dead, 30,000 wounded. Were 97 pages such a chore?

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This Count is from the DoD, Ergo Untrue.....
Posted by: Turiye on Mar 24, 2008 6:04 PM   
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They do not count soldiers that received traumatic injuries in Iraq and died in Veterans Hospitals, they do not count soldiers that commit suicide in-country(Iraq). The true Murdered Military is closer to 9000.
It is not a 'War on Iraq', it is an Illegal Occupation entering its 6th year in Iraq, I wish people would stop referring to this Occupation as a 'WAR'.

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Let's Not Forget.
Posted by: powerplant on Mar 27, 2008 2:56 PM   
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Let's not forget about where the surge is taking place. It's in the city of Bagdad not the country of Iraq. The surge has not brought down the violence
outside the city of Bagdad. Come on George S.. I like you. Your a very smart person but don't fall in to the reporters word play game, please. George, you are smarter than that.

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