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Is Pop Culture Finally Admitting That Women Like to Touch Themselves?

Posted by Jill Filipovic, Feministe at 6:48 AM on November 28, 2008.


Maybe I'm imagining things, but has anyone else noticed more allusions to female masturbation on TV?

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Maybe I’m imagining things, but has anyone else noticed more allusions to female masturbation on TV? On Gossip Girl a couple of weeks ago, the show started with Blair having a sex dream and Dorota (her housekeeper) warning her that “God is always watching” -- and Blair telling her to go away, ostensibly so Blair can finish her business. Last week on Grey’s Anatomy -- a show which is legitimately terrible at this point -- Izzy (spoiler alert!) is having loud sex with her ghost-boyfriend and her room mates (including her real-boyfriend Alex) hear her. Everyone’s confused, and Alex says something like, “She’s flying solo. It’s hot.”

I’m only 25, but growing up I never heard about women masturbating -- and I certainly never saw it referenced on TV. Male masturbation, on the other hand, was an assumption -- something all men supposedly did, that they could joke and talk about. Female masturbation was gross and weird, something we all denied doing, if we talked about it at all. So I’m glad to see it presented as normal.

In other pop-culture self-love references, Jezebel has the top 10 pop songs about female masturbation. And just because it’s the holiday season and I’m feeling generous, a little Chuck Bass to inspire your dreams tonight. Thanks for the link, Ann!

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Jill Filipovic is a New York-based freelance writer and a law student at NYU. More of her writing is available online at her blog, Feministe.


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I keep waiting to see an interview with Pop Culture...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Nov 28, 2008 6:54 AM   
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...for more direct answers as to it's motives and whims. We just want to know what it knows, and when it knew it.

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Uhm....
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 28, 2008 7:23 AM   
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You mean you completely missed Cindy Lauper and the Divinyls, among others?

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*Yawn*
Posted by: rancespergl on Nov 28, 2008 7:36 AM   
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So this topic comes up, what, every 7-10 years or so?

Every time some aspiring female writer reaches far enough into adulthood that she'll admit diddling herself, an article appears.

Zzzzzz.

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I disagree that . . .
Posted by: Scientz on Nov 28, 2008 9:29 AM   
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. . . it has ever been acceptable for young men to joke about.

When I was in high school (over 10 years ago at this point) those who admitted they did it were ridiculed (because "that's what girls are for"), or called gay (for enjoying the feel of a penis in their hands, no doubt).

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» RE: I disagree that . . . Posted by: nerdpony
Wait... what?
Posted by: TheAntagonist on Nov 28, 2008 9:54 AM   
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Women masturbate? Who let them out of the kitchen long enough to do that?! I joke of course...

Of course women masturbate, and so do 99% of men out there and the other 1% is lying to themselves about it. I can't speak to the percentage of women that masturbate, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were rather high.

After all, sex is a natural, instinctual urge. Therefore, if we're healthy and when we don't have an acceptable or accepting mate to mutually squash that urge, we eventually take things into our own hands. To me, it's actually quite logical.

Do I masturbate? Of course not... ;-)

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Be careful, everyone...
Posted by: pelican beak on Nov 28, 2008 2:28 PM   
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...it'll grow hair on your palms.

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» RE: Be careful, everyone... Posted by: farabutto
Is Pop Culture Finally Admitting That Women Like to Touch Themselves?
Posted by: bornxeyed on Nov 28, 2008 9:25 PM   
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Does it really have to?

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it's NOT new
Posted by: lbinathree on Nov 29, 2008 2:49 AM   
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musically, cyndi lauper talked about it in 1984 in she bop

(and grey's or gossip 'girl', i must ask)?

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» of course it isn't Posted by: barbatus
» no, wait! Posted by: barbatus
Depends how pop culture is defined - at least in UK
Posted by: Brian Charles on Nov 29, 2008 10:40 AM   
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There was a scene in a phenomenally successful mid 80s BBC television thriller serial called "Edge of Darkness" where a bereaved father, while searching his murdered daughter's room, found her vibrator.

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Ladies, Go Ahead & Spank Your Monkey!
Posted by: colleenwhalen on Nov 29, 2008 11:32 AM   
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What a NON-STORY - yeah, women masturbate.

Considering that movies are slapped with an "R" rating when female sexual pleasure is included in the script - but a man getting his cookies off in a film usually garners a "PG" rating.

Sort of along the lines of various religions frowning upon women having sexual pleasure. This is how things like female circumcision has been justified - also forcing women to cover up with veils, and Middle Eastern code of strictly covering up all a woman's body from her neck to her toes. European culture forced chastity belts on women....and a world wide obsession with women's virginity being highly prized.

Dating back to creation of Christian religion, women's sexuality was seen as evil, dirty, craven - and women were falsely demonized as dragging men down into sin. Many other religions have fear and loathing of female sexuality. So if there is something on mainstream TV about women masturbating, enjoying it and it is portrayed in a healthy, positive manner - well, fine with me.

"Gossip Girls" is a crappy, trashy, low rent show and I wouldn't let my kids watch it. I'm guessing it was an exploitive scene and not done in good taste (?)

Please watch the indie, art house film documentary "This Film Has Not Yet Been Rated". The Motion Picture rating board MPAA has always come down VERY hard on filmakers who show women actresses expressing sexual pleasure - visible orgasms on screen. A film with a love scene showing a woman having a juicy climax will get an "R" rating - whereas the same kind of scene with a man expressing orgasmic pleasure gets "PG13".

Maria Bello acted in the film "The Cooler". There was a very brief, tasteful scene of her orgasm onscreen. A nano-second snippet of her pubic hair was shown. Mostly the scene was just her face with eyes closed and she was moaning in ecstasy. It was a very sweet, touching scene - and the man and woman portrayed in the film genuinely loved each other and were committed.

The filmakers of "The Cooler" were threatened with an "NC17" rating unless their film was heavily edited. "NC17" is the equivalent of a porno film rating. TV stations won't air promotoinal commercials, newspapers and magazines won't run ads. This basically makes the film un-marketable and studio distribution deals are impossible to negotiate.

While I don't want to see graphic sex scenes on TV - I'd like to see MORE MALE NUDITY IN FILMS because there is far too much female nudity and an imbalance. It's fine with me if female sexuality is explored in TV and films - but quite frankly - there is TOO MUCH of it already - and a paucity of male nudity.

When an actress strips a lot for the camera she gets a "slutty" reputation as Little Miss Hot Pants by the media. When a male actor does full frontal it is considered "how brave" and "how courageous" a man is to do this onscreen. Same goes for male actors gaining weight for a part - when Robert DeNiro packed on almost 100 pounds for "Raging Bull" he garered huge praise for how courageous this was for his artistic endeavors. When an actress gains 5 pounds or has a tiny bit of cellulite = she's torn to shreds by the media.

We have a highly distorted view of female body image. Plus look at all these old goats, men in their 40's and 50's dating women in their 20's - it's seen as "what a champ that guy must be to nail a younger babe" - but all this crap about "Cougars" is a media fictitious invention. I don't see middle aged women ANYWHERE dating guys in their 20's. If they do - they get laughed out of town. Only middle aged women dating young guys is movie star actresses - not in real life.

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Ahhhhhh, yesssssss!!
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Nov 29, 2008 12:56 PM   
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The top 40 on the clit parade.lol

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» RE: Ahhhhhh, yesssssss!! Posted by: rotorooter
at which point was it not?
Posted by: wwittman on Nov 29, 2008 2:28 PM   
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Grey's Anatomy... "terrible at THIS point"??????

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Hmmmmm.....
Posted by: Babygoat on Nov 29, 2008 8:04 PM   
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One of the saddest, culturally ignorant things I've ever heard is a guy asking his female partner..."Did you come?".....Anyone who knows about female sexuality would certainly KNOW!!!...Although, even many women in this and other cultures don't even begin to know what it means -or- what it could possibly feel like. Oddly enough, if they're male partner is satisfied sexually, they themselves think they are too. It wouldn't surprise me if they think we have to penetrate to masturbate...

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» RE: Hmmmmm..... Posted by: nerdpony
It caused my hair to fall out. nm.
Posted by: rotorooter on Nov 29, 2008 8:13 PM   
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nm

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WE SHOULD EXPECT THAT GENUINE OPENNESS IN THE NEAR FUTURE IS A REAL
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Nov 29, 2008 10:23 PM   
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possiblility. The Chinese really do believe in their yin and jang. We have been going through a really bad patch for human freedom. With luck we are going to see the turn.

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What an Absolutely Disgusting,Hideous Article!
Posted by: joeocho88 on Nov 30, 2008 9:45 AM   
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It's like the crapola written in porn magazines geared for IMMATURE MEN --you know, the kind that have the lurid headlines screaming out "GIRL ON GIRL ACTION" and "BARELY LEGAL" and "GIRLS GONE WILD" and " NUDE YOUNG HOTTIES PRESENT."

This is just something that the media which is dominated for MEN for MEN just like most rock music and the bands that play it...It is a high school BOY fantasy...something few men ever outgrow and the divorce rate shows it.
MATURE MEN DON'T WASTE THEIR TIME LEERING AND DROOLING OVER THIS SALACIOUS STUFF BECAUSE THEY HAVE PLENTY OF THE REAL THING.
Besides, seen one, seen them all...just different sizes & colors but the design is basically the same.


GET A TOPIC THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT!

TRASH LIKE THIS BELONGS IN HUSTLER MAGAZINE.

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