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More on AmazonFAIL: Hackers, Misogyny, Homophobia and You

Posted by Deanna Zandt, DeannaZandt.com at 2:41 PM on April 13, 2009.


This is the kind of story that sends me down the rabbit hole of musing for days.
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[Click here to read Deanna Zandt's first post about Amazon's LGBT firestorm.]

As the day has worn on, more parts of the story are unfolding, and all these little tidbits at the intersection of tech, culture, media and commerce are more than fascinating. This is the kind of story that sends me down the rabbit hole of musing for days.

Let's start with the tech side of things

According to Jessica Valenti (and her publisher, Seal Press), Amazon reps are claiming that this is a purely internal issue caused by the mysterious "glitch" spoken of last night. I don't think the reps know what they're talking about, frankly. What I think is going on: there is a severe vulnerability in the Amazon flagging-for-inappropriate system, and it's been found and exploited by one or more nerds with too much time on their hands. Amazon's mistake, vis a vis the brave new world of social media, is two-fold:

  • Refusing to acknowledge a vulnerability. People are reaching the point not just that they like transparency in dealing with people who hold lots of important info on their behalf, but they are coming to demand it. Amazon's "nothing more to see here" approach is damaging to the relationship they have with those outraged by the exploit.
  • Refusing to acknowledge the pain of affected people. If you have an entire relationship built on trust (with personal info, with commitments to move products, with referrals and wishlists, etc), you have the obligation to have that uncomfortable sit-down when a betrayal is introduced to the relationship. Amazon hasn't done that yet. Yikes.

There's a livejournal blogger out there now claiming responsibility for the exploit. I won't link over, because I actually think he's full of crap, as do those who've attempted to reproduce his exploitative code. It's a well known practice for those with no skillz to take responsibility for things they have no part of to build up their hacker cred. Please. You know what tipped me off, for the record? The references to wanting to have anonymous sex with women and heroin from Craigslist. Fetishy-objectifying of women is common in the hacker community, for sure, but this guy is just… silly.

This doesn't mean that someone didn't come up with something similar– I'm almost positive they did. Which means that Amazon has a serious problem, and they better have a better explanation than the "glitch."

There's a bigger picture here: cultural implications

From a tech point of view, recommendation systems and flag-as-inappropriate tools that aren't built to handle gaming the system are just no good. It's unacceptable that a masterminding giant such as Amazon wasn't prepared for this kind of attack. Especially considering how much it affects Amazon's contract and relationship with the people that provide them with the goods its users demand, and how much users trust Amazon to do the Right Thing.

On a wider cultural scale, as I'd mentioned in the article in the WMC, the cultural implications of these attacks — especially when it's big enough to get this kind of attention — are huge. Geek culture is one of the last vestiges of an overtly sexist and toxic environment for anyone who's not a straight guy, most likely white and middle-class. (Not limited to the nerds of computer love, either– check out this post on misogyny and comic books from Amptoons.) When these attacks occur, it reveals not just the hatred that the hackers themselves have for women and LGBT folk, but the wider cultural intolerance we still have running rampant.

Decades of victories in civil rights for women and people of color, and more recently, LGBT folk seeking rights to get married, cannot correct the thousands of years of damage on which our culture is built. When a system of rapid information distribution (oh, like say, The Internet!) provides anonymity, free(-ish) speech and very little accountability, it makes it easy for people's True Feelings to come out. It's my feeling that what we see online is a mirror showing us the dark underbelly of what exists.

Some would react by clamping on the anonymity, the level of free speech and the accountability, often all at once. Sure, keeping trolls off your comments section is probably a good idea. Enacting laws making it impossible to operate independently and anonymously online? Bad idea. Very bad. We need to be addressing the root causes of our misogyny, our racism, our homophobia — not piling on bandaids, duct tape and bailing twine to keep people's mouths shut. Only when it came to the threat of physical danger would I advocate for restriction. I have witnessed friends and colleagues being attacked viciously, and there is no one on this planet that deserves that level of fear stuffed down their throats.

It's time to get real, folks. These attacks are proof that feminism and its partners in other social justice work still have a long, long way to go. Long way. I'm on board… are you?

Updates on theories, conspiracy and otherwise, are welcome in the comments.

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Deanna Zandt is a contributing editor at AlterNet.


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Not a nerd
Posted by: drmflorida on Apr 13, 2009 3:50 PM   
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The ass who claims to have performed this prank was not a nerd. He is a pseudo-intellectual nihilist with a racist and megalomaniacal streak. He didn't hack or devise anything, he just used Amazon's freely available embedded code and a website frequented by mounthbreathing conservative retards to do his work. He does not deserve the title nerd or geek, just "asshole", which he has repeatedly earned. I don't know any sexist or homophobic nerds. Although not uniformly leftist, we are as a group much more evolved than that.

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» 'evolved' Posted by: wwittman
» RE: 'evolved' Posted by: wwittman
Geeks Not Homophobic
Posted by: Milo on Apr 14, 2009 6:28 AM   
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I wanted to chime in and 2nd what drmflorida said. Just looking around geekier parts of the web yesterday (BoingBoing, Slashdot, etc.) saw lots of very geeky types really pissed about this.

Being queer and working with technology for the past 15 years, in general I find that the programmers, web designers, and network folks tend to be the least homophobic.

Amazon, on the other hand... well, the jury's still out on them. I'm sure that the PR slap must sting, and I suspect that they'll try to get it fixed. It would be nice to have Jeff Bezos make a public apology, but I'm not holding my breath. I am holding my wallet, though, until this all gets sorted.

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You what?
Posted by: oregoncharles on Apr 14, 2009 9:09 AM   
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You put a bunch of important personal info on a COMMERCIAL website (ANY of them) and regard that as a trust relationship?

Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but that's just bizarrely naive. Sort of like putting embarrassing pictures of yourself on a social networking site. That's student stuff; don't do it as an ADULT.

Clue: Amazon is a MAIL-ORDER CATALOGUE. Give them exactly the info they need to send you a book, and no more. Because whatever you give them, they will sell. That's their job.

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Amazon also has attacked the visually disabled community.
Posted by: cplot on Apr 14, 2009 5:04 PM   
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The claims that Amazon is too liberal or too enlightened to do this intentionally is very naive. They have already violated US Americans with Disabilities Act by making electronic books unavailable for aural presentation. This to me shows even more that they will do anything no matter how despicable if they can make a buck.

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Dark Underbelly
Posted by: munchkinpup on Apr 14, 2009 11:11 PM   
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Quote:
"It's my feeling that what we see online is a mirror showing us the dark underbelly of what exists."

Yes. All one has to do is read some of the comments on AlterNet to understand that fact.

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