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Why are you paying Karl Rove's salary?

Posted by Cenk Uygur at 7:48 AM on March 16, 2007.


Cenk Uygur: Rove's role in prosecutor-gate underscores the question of the US taxpayer funded political operative....
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Karl Rove is in trouble now for being involved in the decision to fire US attorneys for political reasons. But, of course, he was involved. That's what his job is at the White House: politics.

What I don't understand is why the American taxpayer has to pay for a political operative to operate out of the White House. Of course, every president gets advice about policy and politics from his staff while he is in office. But Karl Rove doesn't do policy, he only does politics.

The White House made this very clear when they moved Rove out of policy positions before the 2006 elections so that he could focus on the 2006 campaign. So, why were we paying him to do that?

If the Republican Party wants to hire him as their consultant, that's one thing. But why should American taxpayers of all political persuasions pay for a consultant to sit inside the White House and try to engineer Republican victories?

And now we find out that part of that engineering involved pressuring Justice Department prosecutors to launch investigations of Democrats and/or stop investigations of Republicans. If they didn't, there would be consequences. And there were.

The Republicans lost the elections. Exactly one month later, seven of those prosecutors were fired. They're not strong on subtlety in the Bush administration.

Isn't this a thousand miles over the line? I think it's pretty clearly over the line that he is being paid by the government to work for the Republicans. But when he plays with the Justice Department to carry out his political plots and plans, he's gone way too far.

I think that Alberto Gonzales is going to step down soon. I explain why here. But the short answer is because this scandal has now touched Rove and by extension - and admission - the president.

But even if Gonzales does step down, that doesn't explain why Rove should continue to be paid by the taxpayers to hatch his political plots inside the White House - and use government agencies for those purposes. There's no excuse for it. Rove must go.

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Cenk Uygur is co-host of The Young Turks, the first liberal radio show to air nationwide.


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Good question
Posted by: CJC on Mar 16, 2007 8:51 AM   
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1. Is Rove on the public payroll?

2. If so, what precedent is there for a party
political operative to work in the White House?

3. If Rove is on the public payroll how can he refuse
a subpoena from Congress?

We need more information!

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» RE: Good question Posted by: underledge
Now that's a great question.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Mar 16, 2007 8:53 AM   
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Why are you paying Karl Rove's salary?

The political strategeorizer ought to be fired, and the people should get a tax refund of his salary commensurate with the amount they've paid in federal taxes...

...an idea that ought to be extended to a lot of the other useless baggage floating around Washington land.

In short, Karl Rove's "job" would be a great place to start downsizing the federal government.

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mela
Posted by: mela on Mar 16, 2007 9:06 AM   
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I'd like to know how to protest this. I dont want to pay this criminal's salery for further malfeasance. How/who to protest?

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» But... Posted by: ~Fiona~
» RE: But...sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
start at the top...
Posted by: robmikejas on Mar 16, 2007 11:02 AM   
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impeach Bush, Cheney. Offer the rest a 10 year prison sentence in place of 25 years. Destroy the infected broom after the clean sweep. Stay upwind of the resulting smoke.

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Good Question
Posted by: Agjobs on Mar 16, 2007 11:15 AM   
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I have been asking this for years. Why are we paying a political operative with taxpayer money? But even more importantly why does a political operative have Top Secret Security Clearance?

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» RE: Good Question Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: Good Question...Damn good question..sickof sleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
Write letters to the editor of as many papers as you can.
Posted by: johngary66 on Mar 16, 2007 1:43 PM   
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Then write to your members of congress and demand an answer. I'll bet they don't have a form letter for this one.

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isn't it about time.....
Posted by: bohdan on Mar 16, 2007 5:30 PM   
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It's also time to finally peel the "ignorance" label off George Bush. It seem unlikely that he was completely ignorant of all the underhanded dealings of his staff.

He shouldn't only be "held accountable' for what happened under his watch, he should also be exposed for full knowledge and culpability of these "impeachable/traitorous" acts.

Let's stop treating George Bush as a complete idiot and realize that he may only be half idiot and the other half ..... perhaps a devious, immoral, nasty, bully who is easily led to seek revenge against anyone who searches for the truth.

It's not just Cheney and Rove. The true villains are the troika of Bush, Cheney, and Rove.

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» RE: isn't it about time..... Posted by: blitzmesser
» RE: isn't it about time..... Posted by: willymack
» RE: isn't it about time..... Posted by: cashelboylo
....or perhaps
Posted by: bohdan on Mar 16, 2007 5:31 PM   
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The only way to get to the bottom of all this is to send the Bush Administration to one of those "secret" overseas prisons and use torture on them all until they finally confess to all their crimes --- from A to Z.

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Sacrificing Policy for Politics
Posted by: lessbread on Mar 17, 2007 6:16 AM   
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Rove is the high priest sacrificing policy on the alter of politics. This White House puts politics ahead of everything else thanks to Rove.

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This situation parallels
Posted by: Ellie1 on Mar 17, 2007 1:50 PM   
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George Bushits faith based initiatives..tax payer money going to fund religious institutions. Provided you are the RIGHT religious institution, and I do mean RIGHT. And along with charity comes a large dose of prostelitizing (sp) to convert the needy to JESUS . THEIR Jesus and their church of course. And OUR money is paying for it.

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Sputnik57
Posted by: Sputnik57 on Mar 18, 2007 6:03 AM   
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You are so tragically correct. Rove was elected by no one and thus is accountable to no one.
http://www.bornagainhippies.blogspot.com

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Isn't that the way Nazis always operate?
Posted by: xbj on Mar 19, 2007 4:23 AM   
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Isn't that the way Nazis always operate?

Isn't it? Don't they always make their enemies and victims pay for the privilege of their subjugation and eventual extermination?

Why are you so surprised? Isn't this the way a Nazi Government works? Isn't this the way Nazi Amerika works? Hasn't it been this way since November of 2000? And jackbooted down permanently on 9-11-2001?

Same tactics, different targets. Same results. More wealth than any human has a right to ever have, all profit off the blood and the death of innocent people.

Doesn't that describe everyone in the Nazi Administration?

Don't call a Nazi a Nazi merely because the target of one bunch of Nazis was Jews; no, this time the Nazis have MANY Jews, so-called Christians, Zionists, atheists, and outright Luciferians in their ranks. And of course, another target this time. In their own words, "Anyone who is against us." Which means anyone fighting the Nazis for their freedom, or trying to fight the Nazis in their own government through WHAT'S LEFT of the democratic political process. Ergo, Oberfuhrer Karl Rove.

No, call a Nazi a Nazi by what tactics they use, how they wield power, and BY WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISH and FOR WHAT ACTUAL REASON. And judge those actual reasons BY WHAT THEY ACTUALLY IN REALITY GAIN, not by what they merely say they are doing it for.

Because Nazis always lie. You have to JUDGE THEM BY THEIR WORKS.

And don't be fooled either by mere freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is the price these Nazis pay for fooling people into believing they really aren't Nazis, and they really will eventually get around to stopping anyone that can truly make a difference, sooner or later. But for now, it's their convenient cover, troublesome as it is. But one more false self-attack, and the Good Amerikan people will beg for them to take that freedom away too so they can be "safe" from the "evildoers" and those "that hate us for our freedom."

Nazi Amerika. My country, right or wrong. Love it or leave it.

Take THAT, Baker III!

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Its time to WAKE UP.... we don't have a say in this stuff anymore....
Posted by: Prophit on Mar 19, 2007 6:23 AM   
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... we are here just to pay the bills and pass our hard fought earnings onto the elite to do with as they wish. Its not our country anymore. In fact, in case you haven't been keeping up, read this..... it shows you just how bad it is. Without a watchdog press, we are doomed..... time to face it. If we don't we won't come up with viable solutions to solve it.

Rove will be paid by us, he will do the political work and this presidency is a dictatorship. If you don't believe me read this piece from the Rutherford institute.

Its not our country anymore

We even have blatant treason on the public record now by this administration in the form of the New Yorker article "redirection" by Seymour Hersh and has the press picked up on it??? NO! Instead the news was full of those stupid hearings on the fired AG's. Compared to the Bush people funding Al Qaeda, that issue is a weener! But of course the press is full of it while Hersh's article is totally ignored. Its an impeachable offense, its HIGH TREASON and a death penalty offense but no we don't read anything about it.

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! Our gov is at war against the American people, its nation and sovereignty. Come up with something that will take it all back. Rove is another distraction issue.

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frank67
Posted by: frank67 on Mar 19, 2007 2:57 PM   
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Geez, come on folks. Removing Rove will subject Bush to a lobotomy. Hey, now there's an idea whose time has come!!!!

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Paying Rove to Screw Us
Posted by: Polenium on Mar 19, 2007 8:42 PM   
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I agree with the concept. Why should tax payers foot the bill for someone to subvert their democracy and what he is doing is probably illegal. Remember the flap about fund raising phone calls from the White House during the Clinton presidency?
However, one parasite more or less on the public payroll isn't going to make a great deal of difference.
What really needs to happen is that we go after the folks that hired Rove: Bush and Cheney. They have committed internation and domestic crimes, subverted the constitution, set the themselves above the law, caused serious harm to the American people by lying about nuclear threats and going to war, waged illegal war and occupation, broken treaties, engaged in torture and extraordinary rendition, committed grave abuses of power, shredded the Bill of Rights, etc.
What do these people have to do to get impeached? Personally murder your family, and burn your house down?
Running out the clock leaves the door wide open for the next guy to anything they darn well please.
Impeachment is the appropriate legal process to the government we have now. It is nothing less than siimple justice.
Additional benefits are that it will allow congress to end the war, prevent an expansion fo the war into Iran and accomplish it's domestic agenda. As long as Bush has the presidential veto....congress's hands are tied.
We need to begin immediately.

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Rove And All Aides Work For Us!
Posted by: tmurphy56 on Mar 20, 2007 7:07 PM   
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How dare Monkey Boy Bush refuse to allow his top aides to testify before Congress under oath! His aides are on OUR (the tax paying, voting citizens of The United States) payroll. THEY in fact WORK FOR US! It is indeed public money that pays their salaries (sometimes in a convulated way - but face it -if their were no tax payers - these jobs would not exist!) . "King George" does not get to decide this - WE THE PEOPLE do! Bush's latest ultimatum to the Congress is a big fat slap in the face to the citizens of our country. We need to pressure Congress to open as many investigations into this obscenely corrupt administration as possible and put these treasonous criminals behind bars. The contempt shown by this administration towards the tax paying voting citizens of this country as well as towards the constitution is downright criminal and I feel treasonous. How dare he so blatantly and pompously flout legalities when the very citizens who pay for this government want to know what in hell they are doing in our name? It's ludicrous that this puppet king thinks he can even talk to Congress in this fashion. It's not as if there is a trail of stunning success stories attached to this administration to warrant such arrogance. This administration has been a total failure, ripe with corruption and scandal. Countless people have died in vain because of the sheer incompetence and stupidity of this administration. THAT ALONE SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR US TO DEMAND AND RECEIVE A FULL ACCOUNTING FROM ALL INVOLVED! If it is not forthcoming - start prosecuting! We put reporters in jail for withholding information - our elected officials and the people they hire to work for them should be held, at the very least, to the those same standards! If they refuse to testify - hold them in contempt and put their fat asses in jail! The sooner the better. Enough is enough! The Constitution protects us from a secret government. Let's start enforcing that ideal!

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