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The ABCs of Getting out of Iraq Responsibly

Posted by Chris Bowers, Open Left at 9:00 AM on April 8, 2008.


Is there anything for us to "win" in Iraq?

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Since Cokie Roberts brought it up, I've always wondered what, exactly, there is for us to "win" in Iraq. Seriously-what is our national Iraq prize? It is not even clear to me what those people who cheerlead for the war are seeking for us to win. I know the permanent bases in southern Iraq serve numerous purposes for the architects of the war (influence over southern oil fields, a forward position against Iraq, redeploying out of Saudi Arabia, control over a puppet Iraqi government), and were actually listed as the rationale for war in a September 2000 Bush campaign document. However, no one ever publicly defends the war on those grounds.

Is our national prize for "winning" the Iraq war a free and stable Iraq? Really? That's what we have to gain from all this? That is why we severely damaged our economy, our reputation in the world, why 5% of all Iraqis are dead and another 16% are refugees, and why over 5,000 Americas are dead? There aren't many Americans who think that this is worth that. When CBS and CNN polled that exact question in March, only 29% and 36% of the country thought the costs of the war were worth the results so far.

It is all well and good to say that the American people want to win. After all, in general, people want to win things, at least as opposed to losing things. However, no one wants to win regardless of the cost, and Americans decided a long time ago that whatever "victory" in Iraq might look like, it was not been worth what has happened there. When people decide that "victory" isn't worth the cost, they want a way to end the entire project, and that is what the Responsible Plan offers.

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Who is going to pay the Bill? or there is no Bill to pay?
Posted by: Artra on Apr 8, 2008 12:30 PM   
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Rich war promoters are not very visible around. Is it possible, at the long run, to leave the ravage in Irak in whole impunity? without side effects as always?

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Can't see Video
Posted by: zizizzi on Apr 8, 2008 4:09 PM   
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I can't get the video...

I am aware that censorship has been rampant over at youtube lately... Could that be why?

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Winning equals money
Posted by: Chloe2005 on Apr 9, 2008 8:40 AM   
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for all the private contractors! It's as easy as that. We have borrowed money and put it directly into the hands of defense contractors, private contractors and the oil companies. We will stay as long as there is oil coming out of the ground. Winning to some is bankrupting this country, getting rid of any of those pesky social programs (SS, Medicare, etc).

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There is no such thing as "leaving Iraq responsibly"
Posted by: Quannah on Apr 9, 2008 10:32 AM   
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just like there was no such thing as "entering Iraq responsibly." There has been nothing responsible about any of this. And THAT is by design! This administration has had, as policy, the complete and utter devastation of the country of Iraq in order to control the resources there. Period. There is no other reason. Their plan, all along, has been to dismantle Iraq. Ever since the invasion, the plan has been to obscure the reality of what is happening there so the people of the US would be in the dark about the REAL reasons we invaded. And the ruse continues, as evidenced yesterday in the so-called hearings on Capitol Hill.

The only way to leave Iraq is to LEAVE! No residual forces left behind. No gradual drawdown. No timetable spread out over 18 months. We need to leave and leave NOW! Immediate withdrawal is the only way to extricate ourselves from this fiasco. It is also the only humanitarian thing to do for the Iraqis, since every day we remain is impossibly painful and damaging to them and us.

BRING THEM HOME NOW!

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Control ...Control...Control !!!
Posted by: rafey on Apr 9, 2008 2:23 PM   
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What we gain is complete control over Mid-East Oil. Period. That is why Bin Ladin attacked. That is why our continued presence will continually stimulate a proliferation of violence.

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