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NYT's Maureen Dowd Plagiarizes TPM's Josh Marshall

Posted by Mustang Bobby, Shakesville at 9:35 AM on May 18, 2009.


To me, plagiarism is a capital offense.

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Via thejoshuablog, Maureen Dowd's column in today's New York Times contains a paragraph that, with the exception of four words, looks to be a direct and uncredited lift from Josh Marshall at TPM. See for yourself.

Ms. Dowd:

"More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when the Bush crowd was looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq."

Josh Marshall on

Thursday, May 14, 2009

:

"More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when we were looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq."

The difference is "the Bush crowd was" in Ms. Dowd's column and "we were" in Josh's.



Coincidence? Two writers coming up with the exact same thought and phrasing right down to the punctuation? Possible, but the odds are astronomical. Subconscious? Ms. Dowd read Josh's piece, liked it, and when she wrote her piece, recalled it word for word but forgot where she read it or thought it was so brilliant it just

had

to be hers. Accidental? She meant to credit Josh and just forgot to do it? Possible, and probably the excuse she or the editors will use when they're asked about it.

Ms. Dowd's history for skating a little too close to the edge of journalistic ethics is not new. The most recent example I can think of was her column from the New Hampshire primary in 2008, datelined "Derry, NH," when in reality she was in Israel at the time the column was filed and published. The New York Times has been a tad lax in their strict enforcement of the rules of editorial integrity -- which probably explains why William Kristol was allowed to work the term of his contract -- but blatant word-for-word plagiarism is different than getting your facts wrong or filing under a dateline that would appear to put you in the story when you're not. Given Ms. Dowd's celebrity status and her snarky persona -- at least on TV -- I wouldn't be surprised if she probably thought that no one reads TPM and what's a little pilfering from a blog, anyway? It's not like it's real journalism.

To me, plagiarism is a capital offense. If you're a reporter, you're fired, and when I was in grad school it meant an end to your degree path. We'll see what happens.

Joshua notes that in a stirring moment of irony, it was Maureen Dowd who uncovered Joe Biden's plagiarism of Neil Kinnock that led to his withdrawing from the 1988 presidential race. The story can be found here at Slate.

As someone once said, what goes around comes around.

UPDATE: The column now has a footnote: An earlier version of this column failed to attribute a paragraph about the timeline for prisoner abuse to Josh Marshall’s blog at Talking Points Memo.

Ah, the passive voice to the rescue: "Mistakes were made." It's meant to sound like an editing error. Feh.

HT to Shaker ralfalfa.

Digg!

Mustang Bobby is a regular blogger for Shakesville.


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I hope the NYT fires that snarky bitch.
Posted by: Quannah on May 18, 2009 10:02 AM   
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She's not a journalist. She's a nasty, snarky gossip columnist who writes scathingly about others because she's so miserable herself.

They better fire her. Immediately. And good riddance.

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» She needs AA Posted by: weathered
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» RE: She needs AA Posted by: Bibsisis
» RE: She needs AA Posted by: Quannah
Well I hope the content gets more focus than the plagarism n/t
Posted by: Tombo on May 18, 2009 11:28 AM   
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nothing to see here

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if this was a student
Posted by: Drclaw on May 18, 2009 12:04 PM   
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at my uni, the prof would file a report with the office of student misconduct, and the student would be disciplined using an escalating scale (1st offense, 0 for assignment, 2nd F for class, thereafter expulsion). Of course, none of this happens in the real world where ethics take a second seat to power politix and the almighty buck. Is it any wonder that nothing much counts anymore except jumping through the hoops however you can without getting caught?

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grammatical point etc
Posted by: CJC on May 18, 2009 12:26 PM   
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"...the column failed to note...." is NOT passive voice. The column is the subject of the sentence. Impersonal, to be sure, but not passive. A writer ought to know better.

Was the plagairism deliberate or careless? Only Dowd knows for sure.

It's not right but not exactly a hanging offense. Let the Times deal with it.

Students plagairizing is different. They're not dashing off a quick essay with materials at hand. They are supposed to be learning how to do research and to think for themselves and to express themselves. They should be instructed in how to take notes and to attribute quotes. But it would have to be a draconian teacher indeed who would not, say, require a student to rewrite, from scratch, and resubmit a paper that had a plagiarized sentence (as Dowd's column did) in the middle of it, maybe with a lowering of the grade. A whole paper would be different and could not be passed off as carelessness.

Not liking Dowd's columns is a different matter altogether.

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» RE: grammatical point etc Posted by: Bibsisis
"Poor" little Maureen...
Posted by: frank69 on May 18, 2009 12:31 PM   
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If Maureen Dowd were black, would she still have a newspaper job? Just wondering, given past history!

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» RE: "Poor" little Maureen... Posted by: Quannah
Re: Dowd
Posted by: Bibsisis on May 18, 2009 9:37 PM   
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Dowd is an ugly, sniping miscreant. She's Rush Lameballs in the middle. I'd rather have Elisabeth Hasselbeck from The View, who is as despicable from the rightwingnuts as Dowd is from the planet of nowhere.

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A "capital" offense?
Posted by: Figfest on May 19, 2009 5:16 AM   
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Try at least to use the language correctly. Hyperbole only dilutes your point.

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