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Straight Talk? Not on Health Care

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 8:10 AM on May 4, 2008.


John McCain can't stop lying about his opponents' health care plans.

For the past several weeks, John McCain and his campaign have been enraged by the emphasis on his willingness to leave U.S. troops in Iraq for up to 100 years, and the audacity of Democrats to tell voters about his views on the issue. To hear them tell it, misrepresenting a rival’s stated policy position — which Dems really aren’t doing — is completely beyond the pale.

Which is odd, given McCain’s habit of wildly misrepresenting the Dems on healthcare policy.

Senator John McCain has been repeatedly suggesting that his Democratic rivals are proposing a single-payer, or even a nationalized health care system along the lines of those in countries like Canada and Britain.

The suggestion is incorrect. While both Senator Barack Obama of Illinois and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York are calling for universal health care and an expanded role for government, they stop well short of calling for a single-payer plan.

Mr. McCain has made the assertion several times in recent days, even as he and the Republicans have made repeated calls for accuracy on the campaign trail…. Yet on repeated occasions, Mr. McCain, of Arizona, has inaccurately described the Democrats’ health care proposals, using language that evokes the specter of socialized medicine.

On a campaign stop on Thursday, for example, McCain said Clinton and Obama “want a massive government takeover of the health care system in America.” A few months ago, McCain said the Dems offer a “single-payer big government solution.” A few months before that, he insisted that the Dems are offering a “government-run, single-payer system like they have in Canada and like they have in England.”

Now, it’s worth noting that John McCain doesn’t know the first thing about healthcare, other than the fact that he’s enjoyed generous, quality, taxpayer-financed medical care for his entire life. Given his almost humiliating confusion on most policy details, McCain might actually believe his own bogus talking points. He’s not necessarily lying; it’s just as likely that he’s clueless.

Whether his deception is intentional or not is, however, beside the point. After decrying misrepresentations, McCain can’t bring himself to tell the truth about one of the most important domestic policy issues on the mind of Americans.

The McCain campaign’s defense is rather amusing.

Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman, noted that Mr. Obama had called himself “a proponent of a single-payer health care program” in 2003. And he noted that just this week, Mr. Obama had spoken favorably of systems in Canada and Europe and said, “If I were designing a system from scratch, if I were just starting from zero , I would probably set up a similar system, just a Medicare-for-all plan.”

But Mr. Obama has even stopped short of mandating health insurance for everyone.

Mr. Bounds said that Mr. McCain’s characterization of the Democrats’ plans was completely reasonable. “While their proposals may not outline one to the finite extent, they clearly suggest that the movement toward a single-payer system is in their overall interests,” he said.

I see. The “finite extent” is a terrific euphemism, isn’t it? Perhaps I can translate Bounds’ conclusion from spin to English: “If we consider what the Dems have actually said, McCain is lying. But those are just details. Since we think the Dems’ plans might someday kinda sorta lead to something like single-payer, we feel comfortable lying some more.”

My very favorite quote, though, came when McCain said people in a single-payer system “end up in a two-tiered system where the wealthiest can afford to pay for their own health care and those with low income sometimes wait six or eight months for a routine kind of treatment. And that’s what I’m not going to let happen to the United States of America.”

Right. Of course. We can’t possibly tolerate a “two-tiered system” in which those with more money get more care, and lower-income families get screwed.

No, that would be awful. We can’t let that happen in the United States of America.

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What the hell is wrong with cutting healthcare costs in half and covering everybody, anyway?
Posted by: UnEasyOne on May 4, 2008 1:37 PM   
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If his lips are moving, McCain is lying.

He has been talking moderate and voting far right since he entered the Senate, lying and calling it "straight talk" from day one.

The only thing I mind about articles that tout his recent flip-flops and lies is that they presume that he ever did anything else. I am sick of hearing he is a "war hero." He isn't - but he has cynically used his involuntary incarceration (wherein he may have conducted himself heroically - or treasonously, depending upon who you believe) as a credential - with the press ignoring other aspects of his career not so heroic. Were he not a general's son (grandson - whatever), he would have had a much different military career.

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How uninformed some people seem.
Posted by: chuckjs on May 5, 2008 3:54 AM   
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2 paragraphs of sarcasm. I live in Canda and I have that nefarious single payer socialized health care. Yeah I am sick all the time and my doctors can't even prescribe the right medication. They are a bunch of backward hicks that haven't got a clue. We can't get anything done here because everyone is suffering from second rate health care.

We don't know how to check for cancer, or treat it, so we have a 100% cancer death rate. I am so poor that I can't afford to get my broken leg set back up. Maybe I can take out a 30% interest loan or credit card to pay for that and indebt myself for life.

The truth is that we have as good a level of health care. Have you compared where the US stands against other countries. The US is very very low on the list of countries with healthy populations. So if your health care is so good why do you rank so low in the health care department. Don't answer I already know.

I pay taxes to cover my health care. Ohhhhh those nasty government taxes. But tell me what is the difference between paying taxes to the government or paying exorbitant premiums to those uncaring health care companies you have. The only difference is who you pay the premiums too. What about those taxes anyway. Well the government here is slowly lowering taxes and our health care is going down the drain. We are now at the American two-tier health care system and we are paying for it with our lives. So are way too many Americans.
So it used to work until we elected a bunch of free market politicians.

Now after spending some time in the military I have PTSD. But hey guess what I get to see a high priced psychologist, who has a lucrative private practice, for no cost to me. Imagine that. I get the treatment, that John McCain needs, at no cost up here and I am dirt poor living on a disability pension type fixed income. And it didn't cost me a dime except my taxes/premium. No co-pay or anything. I bet that doesn't sound very fair at all does it. A person who served their country actaully getting help for the damage done by serving their country. Damn that it just such a shitty system. I bet a lot of Amrican service men would love the shitty health care we get.
Although my military wouldn't put any more effort into looking after our troops my public semi-free health care system looked after it for me. No questions asked.

The US citizens and politicians who think we are a bunch of backward thinking, country hick red necks when it comes to health care should actually come up here and try it before you condemn it. It is not as good as it used to be but it is still way better than what a vast number of Americans call health care. Your poor visit "free clinics", that rely on donations from the socially responsible, in their neighborhoods. Ours don't. They visit hospitals that will not refuse to treat someone if they don't have insurance. I don't need anything to visit a hospital but a card proving I live here. And the government gives me those for free. Something you folks should think about doing for your voting public. SO WHO AGAIN HAS THE TWO-TIER HEALTH CARE? The rich get hospitals and the poor get free clinics.

A government "of the people, by the people, for the people" who give little thought or care about the health of THOSE PEOPLE isn't much of a government, let alone a group of caring human beings. I truly feel sorry for the under priveldged people of America. From a health stand point you do not seem to matter.

Educate yourselves about what else it out there in the world. Don't just sit back and believe what your poloitco's say. After all they are nothing but a bunch of proven liars who bullshit for gain. But again don't take my word for it. Come check it out.

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Ironic, huh?
Posted by: oregoncharles on May 5, 2008 7:37 AM   
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If Hillobama were really doing as McCain claims, they'd be polling much higher against him, because progressives like me couldn't afford to fuss about their equally regressive foreign policy ideas.

My "health-care" plan? Hope I don't get sick the next 3 years, before I qualify for Medicare. Which reminds me, I have to go take my vitamins.

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A tragic disconnect
Posted by: PJAW on May 5, 2008 12:01 PM   
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There is more than enough quality health care available to keep Americans healthy, including all manner of "alternative" therapies (much of which are really "traditional" forms of health care that don't fit the contemporary western model of health care and simply get labeled "alternative"). At the same time we have people unable to access health care, we have providers (I'm one) screaming that we are continually coerced into taking less and less compensation for our efforts (the "managed care" that resulted from Hillary's compromise with the insurance industry). More than a few have simply moved on to other occupations rather than continue as overeducated poor folks with huge ongoing responsibilities and liabilities while watching insurance execs rake in multi-million dollar annual pay packages.

This all came about (and continues) because of the Republican insistance that government is the problem and private industry and free market capitalism always works better. Sure, we don't "govermint beerocrats" making decisions about our health care do we? Much better to leave it in the hands of profit oriented capitalists who see it as a commodity to be bought and sold.

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Wasted Billions
Posted by: modeler on May 5, 2008 12:20 PM   
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The Bushit could have given the best healthcare to ALL Americans with a fraction of the Dollars wasted on his war against the WMD threatening Sadam Hussein Irtaqis. But that would have kepr the Halliburtons and Blackguards from earning them. What an Idiot.Should he be planning the next excursion into disaster via Iran?

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