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Oscar-Winning Hollywood Big Shot: Why I'm Leaving Scientology

By Guy Adams, Independent UK. Posted October 31, 2009.


Paul Haggis, who wrote hits like Crash and Million Dollar Baby, fires parting shot at "hate-filled and bigoted" church.
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Paul Haggis, the Oscar-winning film-maker, has resigned from the Church of Scientology in an explosive letter that damns what he calls the organization's "hate-filled" and "bigoted" opposition to gay marriage.

Haggis, who wrote Crash, Million Dollar Baby, and the last two James Bond films also registered his anger at the church's alleged "disconnection" policy, complaining that it encouraged his wife to live estranged from her parents.

His letter was sent to Scientology's official spokesman, Tommy Davis, in August. But it leaked to the Hollywood press this weekend, bringing further tricky publicity to the already-embattled organization.

Mr Haggis, who had been a member for 35 years announced that he cannot "in good conscience" remain with "an organization where gay bashing [is] tolerated" and which has "allowed [its] name to be allied with the worst elements of the Christian right".

The letter claimed that Scientologists in San Diego helped fund last year's campaign for Proposition 8, the ballot measure which outlawed same-sex unions in California.

It told how Mr Haggis, who also wrote the recent Terminator movie, became deeply concerned at the move, and persuaded Mr Davis to draw up a press release denouncing opposition to gay marriage. That release was never made public.

"You promised action. Ten months passed. No action," said Mr Haggis. "The church's refusal to denounce the actions of these bigots, hypocrites and homophobes is cowardly. I can think of no other word. Silence is consent, Tommy. I refuse to consent."

Although spokesmen have publicly denied that Scientology has a policy of "disconnecting" members who break rules, Mr Haggis further claimed that the parents of his wife, the actress Deborah Rennard, fell victim to that very practice.

"My wife was ordered to disconnect from her parents because of something absolutely trivial they supposedly did 25 years ago when they resigned from the church," he wrote. "It caused her terrible personal pain… For a year-and-a-half, [she] didn't speak to her parents and they had limited access to their grandchild. It was a terrible time."

The loss of Mr Haggis will be keenly felt by an organization that deeply covets celebrity members from within the film community such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Mr Davis yesterday confirmed to The Independent that the resignation letter, published on the blog of Hollywood Reporter columnist Roger Friedman, was genuine. However he said its contents were based on several false assumptions.

Although the Church of Scientology had been identified as a supporter of Proposition 8 on an internet site, it actually has no policy with regard to gay marriage, he said.

"We support civil rights for everyone, regardless of their sexual orientation, creed or race. As an organization, we have members of every race, color and sexual orientation. In fact we have many, many gay members."

With regard to "disconnection" Mr Davis re-iterated that the Church has no policy on the matter. However members are within their rights to privately refuse to communicate with friends or family members who insult their religious beliefs.

Either way, the affair comes at an awkward time for Scientology's public image. John Travolta and his wife, the actress Kelly Preston, were recently forced to deny reports that they were quitting the Church - founded by science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard - over its beliefs regarding psychology.

The couple's teenage son, Jett, collapsed and died earlier this year. His death was linked to severe autism he had suffered his entire life. However Scientologists take a sceptical view with regard to the existence of autism.

Last week, the Church was also placed in an embarrassing position by the British journalist Martin Bashir, who made a documentary about it for ABC's Nightline program.

During that show, Mr Davis stormed out of an interview with Mr Bashir when asked if, as has been widely reported, Scientology teaches that Earth was first populated by an intergalactic emperor called Xenu, who buried his people in volcanoes 75 million years ago.

Text of Haggis's letter: 'You promised action'

As you know, for 10 months now I have been writing to ask you to make a public statement denouncing the actions of the Church of Scientology of San Diego… The church's refusal to denounce the actions of these bigots, hypocrites and homophobes is cowardly. I can think of no other word. Silence is consent, Tommy. I refuse to consent…

I am now painfully aware that you might see this as an attack and just as easily use things I have confessed over the years to smear my name. Well, luckily I have never held myself up to be anyone's role model.

The great majority of Scientologists I know are good people who are genuinely interested in improving conditions on this planet and helping others. I have to believe that if they knew what I now know, they too would be horrified. But I know how easy it was for me to defend our organisation and dismiss our critics, without ever truly looking at what was being said; I did it for 35 years. And so, after writing this letter, I am fully aware that some of my friends may choose to no longer associate with me, or in some cases work with me. I will always take their calls, as I always took yours. However, I have finally come to the conclusion that I can no longer be a part of this group.


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» RE: omfg Posted by: Nightowl
» RE: omfg/spin Posted by: davy
Scientology is not a religion.
Posted by: wisegalah on Oct 31, 2009 4:28 AM   
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If you compare the individuals from whom the major religions have their origins, you find people who had something important to say. Jesus, Buddha, Mahavira and Mohammed to name a few.

And Scientology? Well Hubbard was a third rate writer of science fiction who decided to make some money by founding his own religion. He was by any standards a fruitcake.
Only weak-minded fools allow themselves to be drawn in to that famously litigious, deeply secretive nay paranoid organisation.

It is impossible to make up something so ridiculous that others will not take it to be deeply significant and believe it. Scientology is proof of that.

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» RE: What about Mormonism? Posted by: ETSpoon
» RE: What about Mormonism? Posted by: BlueTigress
» RE: What about Mormonism? Posted by: JefffromCA
» RE: What about Mormonism? Posted by: Dysphoric1
» RE: All religions are bullshit. Posted by: JefffromCA
And to think I used to give Wiccans are hard time
Posted by: ETSpoon on Oct 31, 2009 5:59 AM   
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L. Ron Hubbard's cult, Scientology, is a perversion of the word "science" when there is nothing scientific about it.

I mean a cult based on the "theory" that some evil outer space emperor 80 million years ago or so took care of political dissidents and over-population at the same time by murdering millions of his intergalactic citizens on planet Earth should be laughed out of town.

Anyone with half a brain should reject this "religion" out of hand, as well as those based on virgin births, burning bushes and visitations by the Archangel Gabriel, myths and hallucinations common to the three monotheistic religions.

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OMFG
Posted by: BlueTigress on Oct 31, 2009 6:07 AM   
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Mot people when they give up on their religion, do not have to write a letter of resignation.

They just stop going to church and shift their viewpoint to "formerly practicing ______"

This proves that Scientology is even dumber than I thought.

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» RE: OMFG Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
» You seem to miss the point Posted by: VeroniqueD
Perhaps the beginning of the end of Scientology
Posted by: LeonBNJ on Oct 31, 2009 6:19 AM   
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Perhaps with the resignation of Mr. Haggas from the Church of Scientology it may be the end of this questionable organization. To me Scientology is like too many religious organziations that seem to sell the idea that to believe in us will mean great financial and professional success. Many who choose to be in the entertainment industry look for any crutch to be successful and get involved with Scientology desprite for it.
It is not so good for a person who wants to be successful in Hollywood now to appear to be anti-gay rights. Maybe if more good people involved with Scientology also leave over their homophobic beliefs, then maybe it will die off.

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They're all just nuts
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In my younger, curious days, I went to an Introduction to Scientology seminar, held at one of their "churches." When the "instructor" stood in front of us, pregnant and smoking (this was in the 70's), I asked why she wouldn't be concerned for her unborn child. Her answer . . . "cigarettes won't harm my baby because I believe they won't."
I left and have never given them one nano gram of consideration since. How anyone could be involved with these idiots is beyond me.

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People must be lacking something to join cults around a dubious novel written by a man of dubious
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moral character!!!

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There's no profit...
Posted by: ZPaul on Oct 31, 2009 1:26 PM   
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There's no profit in telling people that nobody "has the answer", that everybody just has to figure things out for themselves. But there will always be money to be made off of people who want a convenient formula for happiness. Once you have been ripped off by religious hucksters, and you realize it, you can denounce it like this guy did. But I suspect there are those who know they were ripped off but didn't denounce it, because they figured, "well, now I'll just find somebody else to rip off, like they did to me, this may be a lie but I can still make money off it like they did off me". Only they don't call it "ripping off", but something more spiritual, like "spreading the faith".

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A Brave Man worthy of acclaim & our support!
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Now is the time that ethical activists in a caring society are required to *stand up for this brave man* !

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Duh!
Posted by: jmmartin on Oct 31, 2009 1:44 PM   
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How long did it take for Haggis to realize his religion was a cult structured as a Ponzi scheme? His Oscar movie stank.

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People want moral certainty, clarity and answers to every question.
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Oct 31, 2009 2:11 PM   
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So they eagerly follow anyone willing to claim that mantle for themselves.

That eliminates the troublesome problem of having to think things out for oneself.

Sheep are much more comfortable in a herd. Human sheep panic at the thought of turning against the flow of the herd; becoming outcast. There are always plenty of human wolves around ready to gather and shear a flock of their own.

It doesn't take much.

Years ago, I had some thought of changing the world for the better through my own leadership. I have a certain amount of the paranormal ability called "charisma" when I choose to employ it, and attracted a certain number of - for lack of a better term - followers.

I also have a certain paranormal ability to utilize the stored knowledge of those around me, mix it with my own and regurgitate it back in a coherent form. Once - to my horror - I found myself holding forth at some length at a party attended by some real intelligentsia, including some university professors. Even worse, I realized that I knew absolutely nothing of what I was speaking and worst of all, an acknowledged expert in the field was standing about three feet away from me. I won't say that my life passed before my eyes, but I was mentally preparing to abjectly apologize, blame it on drugs, a brain tumor, anything I could think of - and slink out as quickly as possible.

Then I realized that the guy in the best position to point out that I was talking completely out of my ass was listening with rapt attention, smiling, nodding, and generally behaving as if he were glad someone finally "got" it (as were a few others in the circle.)

Since I had unconsciously "tapped" this "knowledge" from their own brains and just fed it back to them, it's unsurprising in the extreme that they agreed, but I honestly didn't have the knowledge myself to evaluate whether what I had said was great wisdom or total nonsense. Seemed to make sense at the time, lol...

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Let's Be Honest Here...
Posted by: Wacre on Oct 31, 2009 5:00 PM   
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Let's be honest here. Scientology–as ridiculous as it is–is little different than our more established religions.

It's only disadvantage is that it came around later, though when you think about it some guy walking on water, and parting an ocean is just a silly as anything from Scientology.

I posted a bit about this on my blog a few days ago: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yjylo8q

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An extremely interesting read
Posted by: thisizrob on Nov 1, 2009 4:13 AM   
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Having read every comment in this column, I can see where honest folks are totally fed up to the teeth with all the B/S that is put forward as religion.

Maybe those same folks were so incensed with the crapp that they vowed NEVER to have anything to do with ANY religion because of what they had seen and experienced. They had been totally turned OFF from looking any further and believed that every religion was much the same as any other religion. I can not nor will I try to refute that statement.

Some will deride me for speaking up here in defence of Jesus Christ. He got all the same sort of flack that you folks got and they eventually killed him because, like many of you, he took a very strong stand against the oppression of Religion. He came to show us how to live properly and how to treat others, even his enemies were treated with a Graciousness beyond the comprehension of his followers who thought he was about to set up a Kingdom to get rid of the hated Romans. They ALL misunderstood his mission to earth.

His detractors tried to trap him at every chance and he could have told them exactly what they were going to do in a real nasty way but he chose to tell a story so they would get the message without total embarrassment to them. I guess that I am just like all you folks, you see an injustice and you are prepared to shout it out for everyone to hear. Unfortunately, i am not much different to you.

The lives of many, not all, Christians in the lime light leaves much to be desired and folks can rightly criticize them for their less than proper christian character.

When Jesus was put in this position he knew they were trying to trapp him and mind you THESE were the elite of the religion. They had tricked a harlot into getting caught in the act of committing adultery and demanded whether HE would say that she should be stoned or not. He was damned whichever way he answered. Yes, and they would run to the Romans saying this fellow was setting himself up above the government. No and they would scream about him denying their law and have him killed anyway.

Jesus said nothing until he had written down some of the sins of the accusers. By the way, the guy involved was nowhere to be seen, he was guilty too. Then as they pressured him for an answer, he stood up and declared in a very matter of fact voice, HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN MAY CAST THE FIRST STONE. The crowd slowly dispersed beginning from the eldest to the youngest because NONE of them was free of sin. Then when Jesus asked this harlot woman where her accusers were, she answered that there was no one to accuse her. They had dropped their rocks and left. Jesus said to her, Neither do I accuse you, just go and stop sinning.

I do not see any religion operating that way except maybe one or two if I could find the second one. I know that they all claim to follow Jesus BUT everyone likes to see someone else get whats coming to them for their wrong doing, even most of the folks who have commented on this story. Well, YOU who are without sin may cast the first stone. I know these socalled religions are mostly charlatans but i see them as people who do not know Jeaus. They do NOT know Jesus or even where to find him. They are totally judgemental bigots and would also stone Jesus for gently showing them up. But there are those scattered through those religions who have a caring, non judgemental attitude to others.

One man said, "Any religion that has to use force or governments to back them up has got to be a false religion. So I say, Keep Church and state separate. Unfortunately, very soon you will see the horrors of what happens when they are joined together.

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Uggs are bad enough. Why am I getting "ad.timps" now?
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Never Understood
Posted by: Gravitas on Nov 1, 2009 7:23 AM   
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Why people voluntarily or let themselves be convinced or intimidated into joining cults. From scientology to the 666 crap, it is not that hard to resist them.

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I didn't read the article because the religion is about irrationality to begin with.
Posted by: snax on Nov 1, 2009 8:45 AM   
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"Gap Faith" - That's what Scientology and most other religions on this planet are based upon. In other words, the things we cannot - or at least have yet to explain via credible fact or scientific analysis to support them.

It is simply irrational to believe in such things so ardently because somebody said so! Whomever believes in god might just as well be said to believe in the Easter Bunny and Leprechauns - as both are said to exist with no hard evidence to support either one.

So Christians, Scientologists, Mormons, Muslims, etc., you are all crazy in my book.

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Question
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Nov 1, 2009 6:32 PM   
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What I wonder is this:

The big time celebrities who go in for this stuff must get a sanitized version of Scientology because everything I've read about them is that they are completely fucking nuts. I'm not just talking Mormon nuts, but way the fuck out there.

Then again, they have Tom Cruise.

I mean, has anyone read Dianetics? It doesn't even make sense.

I heard on the radio that they have a billion dollars set aside for legal battles. Nobody puts away that kind of cash if they don't have something to hide.

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Question and Answer all in one.
Posted by: Captainmagic on Nov 2, 2009 4:30 AM   
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Are your churches exempt from paying taxes?

E.O.S.

Captain OUT

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L Ron was a bad bad man
Posted by: huels3000 on Nov 2, 2009 1:14 PM   
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L Ron H once said to Jack Parson, father of rocket science, that a great way to make money would be to make up a religion. They were both practicing black magic and living together in California. It's pretty funny when the leader of satanism,Anton LeVey, thought L Ron was a wack-job. He warned Parson right before L.Ron ran off with his girl and money.Parson would later die after blowing himself up while trying to make a "moon child."
L Ron also married his second wife before he divorced his 1st. Great rep for a religion.

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Either way
Posted by: nikefilson on Nov 16, 2009 10:17 PM   
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Either way, the affair comes at an awkward time for Scientology's public image. John Travolta and his wife, the субтитры к сериалам субтитры туризм путешествия постеры постеры к сериалам seropol5 actress Kelly Preston, were recently forced to deny reports that they were quitting the Church - founded by science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard - over its beliefs regarding psychology.

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Last week, the Church was also placed in an embarrassing position by the British journalist Martin Bashir, who made a documentary about it for ABC's Nightline program.

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