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Tea Party Movement Returns Christian Right to Its Racist Past
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Now that popular conservatism has given itself over so avidly to racial resentment, it's curious to remember how hard the right once tried to scrub itself of the lingering taint of prejudice. Indeed, for a decade and a half the Christian right -- until recently the most powerful and visible grassroots conservative movement -- struggled mightily to escape its own bigoted history. In his 1996 book Active Faith, Ralph Reed acknowledged that Christian conservatives had been on the wrong side of the civil rights movement. "The white evangelical church carries a shameful legacy of racism and the historical baggage of indifference to the most central struggle for social justice in this century, a legacy that is only now being wiped clean by the sanctifying work of repentance and racial reconciliation," wrote Reed.
"Racial reconciliation" became a kind of buzz phrase. The idea animated Promise Keepers meetings. "Racism is an insidious monster," Bill McCartney, the group's founder, said at a 39,000-man Atlanta rally. "You can't say you love God and not love your brother." The Traditional Values Coalition distributed a video called "Gay Rights, Special Rights" to black churches; it criticized the gay rights movement for co-opting the noble legacy of the civil rights struggle.
Throughout the Bush years, homophobia and professions of anti-racism were twinned in a weird way, as if the latter proved that the right wasn't simply still skulking around history's dark side. At a deeply surreal 2006 event at the Greater Exodus Baptist Church, an African American church in downtown Philadelphia, leaders of the religious right invoked Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks on behalf of gay marriage bans and Bush's judicial nominees. At the end of the evening, several dozen clergymen, black and white, joined hands in prayer at the front of the room. "Black Americans, white Americans," said a beaming Tony Perkins, leader of the Family Research Council. "Christians, standing together." The whole premise of compassionate conservatism -- which shoveled taxpayer money towards administration-friendly churches like Greater Exodus Baptist -- was that the right cared as deeply as the left about issues like inner city poverty.
What a difference an election makes. Even if you believed that compassionate conservatism was always a bit of a con, it's amazing to see how quickly it has vanished, and how fast an older style of reaction, one more explicitly rooted in racial grievance, has reasserted itself.
Today's grassroots right is by all appearances as socially conservative as ever, but its tone and its rhetoric are profoundly different than they were even a year ago. For the last 15 years, the right-wing populism has been substantially electrified by sexual anxiety. Now it's charged with racial anxiety. By all accounts, there were more confederate flags than crosses at last weekend's anti-Obama rally in Washington, DC. Glenn Beck has become a far more influential figure on the right than, say, James Dobson, and he's much more interested in race than in sexual deviancy. For the first time in at least a decade, middle class whites have been galvanized by the fear that their taxes are benefiting lazy, shiftless others. The messianic, imperialistic, hubristic side of the right has gone into retreat, and a cramped, mean and paranoid style has come to the fore.
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Oct 2, 2009 1:00 AM
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» "Democratics"? "bloody stupid"?
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» Lets talk about REAL RACISM AT A HIGH LEVEL....."Eugenics".
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» Oh, thank you for this..... I started reading and asked myself....Where is the proof?
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» RE: Oh, thank you for this..... I started reading and asked myself....Where is the proof?
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» RE: How do we get the jobless and near jobless back to work?
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» Bollocks!
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» The Right is racist by definition
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» Hmmmm, but that narrative does not describe your subject line???
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» More divide & conquer by pitting left vs. right, Dems vs. Repugs, white vs. black, gay vs. straight,
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» Of course Iran is next and that does not bode well for our troops currently in Iraq...
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» Read this that I just saw today... Pres of Iran is Jewish and has more Jews living in Iran than the
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» MORE LIES FROM CYNICI/PROPHIT
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» Red Herring
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» RE: Is this what you meant?
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» 11,776,112,848,656.17 in Debt
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» $12 Trillion in debt, huh? Did you know the worlds entire GDP is only $60 trillion???
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» RE: $12 Trillion in debt, huh? Did you know the worlds entire GDP is only $60 trillion???
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» Oh, Encino, send your comment to the "WASHINGTON POST" WHO JUST QUOTE HER THIS WEEK.
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» RE: Oh, Encino, send your comment to the "WASHINGTON POST" WHO JUST QUOTE HER THIS WEEK.
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» Prove a single story on the flu is a lie... link please.
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» RE: Prove a single story on the flu is a lie... link please.
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» In other words you don't have one.... lol So CLG is legit... sorry.
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» No the Reporting on the FLU is sensationalistic journalism at its worst.
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» You want proof that you're lying? What is this?
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» Adolf Hitler loves Guitarbill !
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» Another demonstration of the breadth and depth of your stupidity, Benn?
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» RE: You want proof that youre conspiranoid?
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» Look the 911 denier kiddies created a "GuitarBill on" account in order to impersonate me.
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» RE: Look the 911 denier kiddies created a "GuitarBill on" account in order to impersonate me.
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» Changing the subject, Preparation H
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» STONEWALLING again, @$$face?
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» RE: Alternet is a front group for the NWO
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» NWO+Illuminati+Masons+Skull & Bones
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» RE: Politically Correct hydrogen powered motorcycles speed to the Alternet Offices
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» RE: Politically Correct hydrogen powered motorcycles speed to the Alternet Offices
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» She is awake, she was just using some humor there. Relax.
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» RE: NWO+Illuminati+Masons+Skull & Bones
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» If they are denying it, everyone on here will see it, like they saw THE G-20 GLOBALIZING MEETING....
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» Adolf Hitler loves you Guitarbill.
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» Ordinarily people live and learn, Benn. You just live.
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» For a former "computer science" major, you certainly are dense.
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» RE: I never said I was a "computer science" major, you're misrepresenting my words again
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» RE: I never said I was a "computer science" major, you're misrepresenting my words again
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» RE: Is This The Same Benndover Miller Who Claims That Obama Supporters Attack You Personally?
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» Between the Obama kultists and the rightwing hicks, both suck !
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» What are you benn_Miller, twelve?
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» RE: You'll Notice There Is A Group Of Them That Attack The Poster
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» Poor desidid. The spoiled brat couldn't even fight. Awww. Poor bastard !
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» RE: A Perfect Example Of What I Mean
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» Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks. LOL !
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» RE: Who Broke Wind?
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» RE: You're full-of-[expletive deleted]. You wouldn't know a police state if it jumped up and bit you.
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» Look the 911 denier kiddies created a "GuitarBill on" account in order to impersonate me.
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» RE: Are we having fun yet?
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» I have a question for you, Preparation H.
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» ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAAAA, Oh my stomach hurts....
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» "...Oh my stomach hurts". Really? No kidding?
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» More deflecting/distracting lies from CynicI/Prophit
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» That's not completely true.
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» RE: More deflecting/distracting lies from CynicI/Prophit
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» Mr. Bill's alter-ego, Shey
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» RE: The Site Itself Lampooned Their Source
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» Well, fine, don't have a discussion, rather redicule, but truth will always win out in the end.
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» RE: Well, fine, don't have a discussion, rather redicule, but truth will always win out in the end.
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» Would you like more proof that "CynicI" and "prophit" are the same person?
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» Look the 911 denier kiddies created a "GuitarBill on" account in order to impersonate me.
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» RE: Look the 911 denier kiddies created a "GuitarBill on" account in order to impersonate me.
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» You're a habit I'd like to kick; with both feet.
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» "...redicule"? You must be the spelling bee champ, right "prophit(0)"?
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» I'm guessing SCHOPENHAUER didn't misspell "ridicule"
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» The Alex Jones Deception
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» Alex Jones will exploit any president in order to fill his pocket's with money from his sheep.
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» RE: Alex Jones will exploit any president in order to fill his pocket's with money from his sheep.
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» Look the 911 denier kiddies created a "GuitarBill on" account in order to impersonate me.
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» RE: Look the 911 denier kiddies created a "GuitarBill on" account in order to impersonate me.
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» If you act like an ass, Preparation H, don't get insulted if people ride you.
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» Adolf Hitler loves Guitarbill !
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» RE: If you act like an ass, Preparation H, don't get insulted if people ride you.
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» ROTFLMAO!!!! OH, MY, I can't get up from the floor........
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» "...I can't get up from the floor". Then perhaps you should stop mixing Quaaludes with beer.
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» When will you learn to keep your fantasy life to yourself, Preparation H?
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» RE: Alex Jones will exploit any president in order to fill his pocket's with money from his sheep.
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» So, bill, which one of the posts on here were you trying to hide in this thread that you don't want
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» STONEWALLING again, "prophit(0)"?
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» I'm not hiding anything, "prophit(0)", but here's what you're trying to hide:
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» STONEWALLING again, Max the compulsive liar?
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» RE: Alternet is Getting Freakier and Weirder By The Day
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» RE: defining terms; bums, elites
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» RE: defining terms; bums, elites
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» That is so true, and that also dates you.... we haven't had refinement, breeding, polish and
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» CynicI
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» I'll take Alternet over townhall.com any day.
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» What do you mean?
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» Leafsong, you are a reasonable and rational person.....
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Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 2, 2009 1:46 AM
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The one thing we all have in common, including myself, a Progressive, is a deep distrust of politicians. We think they are corrupt ... Wow! what a radical position! ...
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» I hope that deep distrust includes their owners, the bankers and robber barons...
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» RE: I hope that deep distrust includes their owners, the bankers and robber barons...
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» I certainly appreciate your sentiments and hope that you are right,
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» RE: I certainly appreciate your sentiments and hope that you are right,
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» RE: I hope that deep distrust includes their owners, the bankers and robber barons...
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» EXCELLENT!! Didn't her husband write a book; Ponerology: Evil at a societal level?
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» RE: XCELLENT!! Didn't her husband write a book; Ponerology: Evil at a societal level?
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» Thats the guy.... Lobaczewski, he wrote "Ponerology: Evil at a Societal Level"....
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» RE: Thats the guy.... Lobaczewski, he wrote "Ponerology: Evil at a Societal Level"....
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» RE: Thats the guy.... Lobaczewski, he wrote "Ponerology: Evil at a Societal Level"....
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» Well, that is even worse, it means Zbig is censoring books....
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» RE: Well, that is even worse, it means Zbig is censoring books....
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» CynicI/Prophit:"Mossad is part of the Cheney death squad ....
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Posted by: Atheistno1 on Oct 2, 2009 2:18 AM
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Michelle has explained things very well when it comes to alternative figure of speech & the manipulation of public cognitive thought.
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Posted by: corey on Oct 2, 2009 2:42 AM
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American Humanist Association
American United for Separation of Church & State
Council for Secular Humanism
Freedom From Religion Foundation
Friends Committee on National Legislation
Interfaith Alliance Foundation
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Secular Coalition For America
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» RE: Please support the following organizations to assure America does not become a Theocracy
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» Good point, we just had an article on here highlighting that about Israeli women who want to date...
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» RE: Just look at the chef crew that gets flown around everywhere with him
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» RE: Just look at the chef crew that gets flown around everywhere with him
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» RE: we already have a not so subtle equivalent of slavery in effect in this country
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» That is exactly what they are trying to do. There are serious Eugenics racists in this country....
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» RE: There are serious Eugenics racists in this country, it is against Native Americans the most
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» RE: That is exactly what they are trying to do. There are serious Eugenics racists in this country....
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» Thank you, corey - finally,
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Posted by: 4America on Oct 2, 2009 3:59 AM
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The election of Obama has done nothing for race relations except drive a divide into it!
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» RE: The real racist
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» RE: The real racist
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» RE: The real racist
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» You prove the other side's point
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» RE: The real racist
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Oct 2, 2009 4:36 AM
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Even if she is all worked up, she should choose her words more wisely.
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» RE: Michelle Goldberg is a fool! A disgrace to her parents.
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» RE: http://www.ajr.org.uk/ajr-journal
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» My reply to your comment.
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» And then you wonder why people hate Jews
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» you're ruining your credibility here, Leaf
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» Hey, hey, hey, she clearly made the distinction between normal regular Jews and the Zionists who are
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» Why don't you explain the difference between Zionist...
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» I'm All Ears If You Wish To Expand On Your "Thoughts"...
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» 6'3", 300 lbs, facial hair, and a fully funtional package
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» RE: you're ruining your credibility here, Leaf
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» then you need to make more careful distinctions
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» RE: then you need to make more careful distinctions
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» Apologies to "Mr." leafsong1
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» Keep your mouth shut. You're just angry at leafsong1 for being disgusted with Obama for
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» well, I'm not Max
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» DrClaw, my apologies. I just looked back once again and realized that I overreacted.
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» RE: Apologies to "Mr." leafsong1
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» you continue to show
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» RE: you continue to show
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» leafsong1, there are Jews in Israel who are pro-peace and do not support what
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» RE: leafsong1, there are Jews in Israel who are pro-peace and do not support what
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» Very true, re. leafsongs dwindling credibility
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» Even a broken clock is right twice a day
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Posted by: lclark on Oct 2, 2009 4:42 AM
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I have noticed that Alternet will eventually ascribe to people opposed to a certain set of social goals as being racist. It could be illegal migrations or what the Tea Party represents.
Consider health care reform. What's in the law? Don't buy a product and you face fines. We all suspect that as soon as that is law most companies will drop health coverage and more of our ( decreasing ) earnings will be given over to the rich and powerful by legislative mandate.
I think many people:
- are disgusted with both the Democratic and Republican parties and see them as both corrupt and servents of a corportocracy.
- see that citizens are managed rather than represented. Powerful private groups with wealth and agendas select who runs for public office and who gets media exposure and the kind of media exposure they get and that the democratic process is an illusion. Who funds Alternet?
- see that are productive capacity has been sent overseas and the basis of our middleclass exported.
- see the poor quality of public education. Many graduates do not have basic mental skills nor manual skills not civic skills but are exposed to extensive social engineering.
- see the "private-public" partnerships is about transferring public assets and wealth to private hands.
- see that giving public money to religious institutions is contrary to the founding principles of this country
- see the concentration of wealth into the hands of fewer people.
- see more and more we are subject to ways we have to "show our papers" to travel in our own contry, weather its at the airport or driving on public roads.
- see "free speach" zones replacing free public expression.
- see police use devices developed by the military deployed against public protest, i.e., "sonic cannons" at the late G-8 meeting in Penn.
- see all these foreign wars and transnational treaties as a scam to grab more public wealth and weaken nation sovreignty and dismantle the national unity.
- see the rise in gangs in urban areas as a breakdown in community that reflects a broader gangsterism that government has come to reflect.
Oh, and see if some group is not in agreement with the agenda of who gets publushed in Alternet eventually that grouping will be label racist.
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» RE: I don't see the connection
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» Take your racist filth elsewhere!
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» RE: "You are either with us or you are with the KKK."
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» I think your missing the point, Lauren. There is an agenda in all these hate articles....
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» RE: There is an agenda in all these hate articles....
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» LETS HOPE NOT..... If it is then I need to go somewhere else.
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» THIS IS NOT A "HATE ARTICLE" CynicI/Prophit, you moron
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» Alternet is an echo chamber
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» I don't see the connection between the Tea Party movement and the attitudes you describe
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» Leafsong, I think this movement got out of control of the oligarchs is what happened.
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» Wow, I am impressed, you have identified at a core level exactly what is going on.
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» RE: I don't see the connection
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» That's because it ISN'T a bipartisan group
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Posted by: Nitestallion on Oct 2, 2009 5:04 AM
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Just because a man's views are weird or unpopular doesn't mean that they are incorrect. Don't go on a hay ride just for the frills and thrills. It took me forever to learn to say no, and understand that was alright! Say no not to religion: say no to fuzzy thinking, deliberate lies, and irrational acts. Religions can be fun and good if they serve a county picnic with music and comestibles. If they start preaching call the men in the little white coats!
In caricature religious philosophers are strictly bovine. Would you want to learn the square dance from a Holstein? Or perhaps integral calculus from a Guernsey? Your spirit is your own your body is the temple. Do not let Pulpit Pounders paradiddle a tympani on your skull. Learn to do your own thinking and pay your dues to living your own way with the beating of your heart. And NEVER but NEVER let a church take control of governance!
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Posted by: snowhound on Oct 2, 2009 5:28 AM
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» OMG! NWO! WTF?
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» RE: OMG! NWO! WTF?
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» Add Sister_Lauren to the ranks of "haters"
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» I'll bet Shey and Guitarbullshit have very close connections here.
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» Your ignorance is showing
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» RE: Your ignorance is showing
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» Coincidence?
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» RE: $11,776,112,848,656.17 in Debt
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» RE: OMG! NWO! WTF?
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» RE: OMG! NWO! WTF?
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» Alex Jones and David Icke can bite me
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» I forgot to mention, he predicted what happened with the Fed Res and the bankers....
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» Ron Paul is an anti-choice Social Darwinist
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» Ron Paul is for ending the drug war and the wars for oil. Obama is not.
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» Runaway capitalism
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» RE: Yo dude, you forgot all about mentioning the actual contributions of our indigenous culture
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» RE: unaway capitalism
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» Yes, fomenting racism has been used by the NWO to divide us & to sway elections for a very long time
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» Remember, this racism is much more insidious than we can ever imagine.
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» RE: who are the super rich putting it into effect?
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» Oh, how funny, comcast was one of those companies that did the bush spying early....
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» RE: emember, this racism is much more insidious than we can ever imagine.
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Posted by: chariotdrvr14 on Oct 2, 2009 6:37 AM
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Why else in the verified account of a dramatic rise in a number of white nationalist organisations' membership lists? The rise of threats to the president coinciding with increasing emotional racially charged rhetoric from leading rightwing bloggers like Matt Drudge, radio talkshow hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck who use incidents of racially related schoolfights to attack President Obama and his supporters?
You can argue that Obama's policies are inciting the rightwing but the reactions of everything from heckling him during major congressional speeches to encouraging people to bring guns to his appearances run beyond the pale of simple disrespect of his office (which they've never done to any white president...even the liberal ones)
I think all that speaks for itself.
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» RE: And neither will denying the boards exist.
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» You obviously only read the American MSM, don't you? You should try...
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» can we have a reasonable discussion about this?
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» RE: can we have a reasonable discussion about this?
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 2, 2009 6:42 AM
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It has been said that "religion is the opiate that's fed to the people" - now more than ever is that being applied. The people have been dumbed down, and are ignorant of the facts: our politicians have been bought by the Corporate Oligarchy, in turn they have rewritten and abolished the laws that were in place to help the average American. In these tough times, when the masses are afraid because the Government is not responding effectively enough for WE THE PEOPLE, the carpet baggers (Rush, Glenn, Hannity, et.al) have always used the fear of the people against other, to keep them in line for their aggrandizing agenda! It's just too bad for those that support the loudmouths, they are to ignorant to realize how badly they are being used against their own self interest!
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» RE: eligion..............
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» RE: Don't worry, like us on the left, they are waking up.... i can prove it.
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» Good news, Lauren, it wll be nice when we can quit getting this garbage on our site....
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Posted by: daw13 on Oct 2, 2009 6:44 AM
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» RE: The Left Can Only Absorb One "Minority" Group At A Time
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» RE: give Obama credit for his willingness to place people who oppose his point of view at the table
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 2, 2009 7:09 AM
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To see so many denialists on the comments just reinforces it for me. But for the Xtians and the owning-class we might have a decent space to live, work and defecate.
Welkum to 'Merkuh, I guess. Jeebus fuck, I need coffee.
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» RE: the wingnuts are out this mornin'!
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» Right on with what you say.
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» RE: the wingnuts are out this mornin'!
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» RE: I thought the racists always were racist, this is just bringing them out of the closet
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» RE: Love Your Spirit!
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 2, 2009 7:14 AM
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Coincidence? Um, yeah... no.
If'n people can't see the clusterfuck closin' in, they're just too god damned fuckin' stoopit to live. Like watchin' dipshits watching the F5 tornado bearing down on the front porch, "Willi, git me nuther beer, will ya? This here video's goin' be awesome... gonna win me sup'n on that yootoob, by jayzis!"
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» I want to see if I understand your phrase "...They're just too god damned fuckin' stoopid to live!"
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» Reading comprehension class might help you but I doubt it.
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Posted by: Evelyn on Oct 2, 2009 7:22 AM
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» Is it merely anti-government sentiment, or is it anti-corrupt government sentiment???
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Posted by: MichaelGoodhart on Oct 2, 2009 7:26 AM
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I used to be a rightwing nut as a disgruntled left out kid and thought that the conservatives were beaming me up. After Terri Schiavo and Hurricane Katrina, my conservative spirit began to wane. I used to buy into rightwing economics as well until I faced eviction upon getting into debt. I am still a moderate conservative on some issues but I am not a townhall.com freak.
We can find plenty of things to bash Obama about but at least he's not too liberal. What would John Mccain or Sarah Palin have done other than piss off more lukewarm conservatives?
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» RE: Get Over Racism and Get a Life
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 2, 2009 7:42 AM
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Posted by: gilhowcan on Oct 2, 2009 7:58 AM
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The Christian Right in the United States today is a perfect example of "Christian Wrong!" The movement is dominated by illiterates leading illiterates. They are convinced their beliefs and practices can be forced on others and that they have some divine right to practice that enforcement.
Those of us who believe in democracy and justice must stand firmly against them. Learning must replace their illiteracy, whether that illiteracy is in history, sociology, psychology, or science--especially as all those areas shed light on the ignorance of the right.
Knowledge must overcome ignorance before any inspiration for good might inspire or enlighten anyone. That's why public education is so vital to the common good.
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Posted by: jesme on Oct 2, 2009 8:15 AM
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I'm conservative. I'm also black. I'd be outraged too, if I believed the Tea Partiers were merely a bunch of bigots. But I've seen no reason to believe that. None at all. Neither, by the way, has the president himself, who has publicly repudiated this argument. Even Jimmy Carter, who called the movement racist recently, has lately retracted his comments, and now even pretends that he never said such a thing. Sure, the man is a fool, but even he has come to realize that the charge of racism is politically counter-productive and false to boot. Clearly Goldberg still hasn't figured this out.
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» RE: Tea Party, people who don't want to pay more taxes to an out of control government
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» RE: Tea Party, people who don't want to pay more taxes to an out of control government
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» BINGO!!!!!
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» RE: Yeah Big Tent Popular Appeal
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» RE: Yeah Big Tent Popular Appeal
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» RE: What exactly is 'your' movement?
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» RE: What exactly is 'your' movement?
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» RE:Apparently You Didn't Read The Original Post
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» RE: acist? Rubbish!
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» so you're saying Obama = Judas???
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» RE: I Wrote Him And Said As Much
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» RE: Were Your Relatives Slave Hunters?
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» RE: Were Your Relatives Slave Hunters?
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» Jesme, I understand you are a black conservative
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» RE: Jesme, I understand you are a black conservative
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» RE: Reading Your Post I Thought Of Dave Chapelle's Skit Of The Blind Black Klansman
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» RE: Were Your Relatives Slave Hunters?
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» Add to that, if someone is going to go back in time, that Obama's relatives were slave owners.
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» Why Don't You Paint A Target On Yourself?
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» Wow, you are goood at targeting the left with a very BROAD BRUSH...
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» Ooooops....
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» RE: Jesme--you suffer from "color blind racism"
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Posted by: bellabellb on Oct 2, 2009 8:20 AM
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» Oh, I guess you never studied politics.... well, there are two parties based on 2 different...
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» RE: I quess you never studied race
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Posted by: slugsucker on Oct 2, 2009 8:46 AM
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» RE: DisOrganized Religion is freedom and happiness
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Posted by: ClassAct on Oct 2, 2009 9:01 AM
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» RE: All is forgiven.
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Posted by: bh on Oct 2, 2009 9:02 AM
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» RE: acism and the South, Ever been to Atlanta?
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» Shhh... don't confuse with real facts
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 2, 2009 9:12 AM
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Of course everyone is at least slightly racist. It's a tribal thing, but it is very much less of a problem now than it was 50 years ago.
Any reversion in this progress is entirely due to the racism blatantly promoted by US & UK Governments in demonizing Muslims since 9/11.
Muslims are now the whipping boys - just like the American Blacks and Jews were...
They are Not Guilty.
They did not do 9/11
It was a White Job
Tony
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» Damn, BINGO AGAIN!!!!!! Thats two for two.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 2, 2009 9:31 AM
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The tea party folks stick up for one thing...the rich and the wannabe rich and their twisted ideas on christianity and it's role in governance. That's why they got positive media coverage and little,if any, police harrasment.
The G-20 on the other hand had protestors and they got the riot cops! Why? Because they were protesting the very element that responsible for putting the hurt on the World.
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» RE: We see the enemy and it ain't us!!!!
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» And who was President during both of those protest marches?
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» Using what works.
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» Very eloquently said, sir....... very true as well.
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Posted by: reelectnoone on Oct 2, 2009 9:35 AM
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Both love to hate others because they may have different beliefs. Both seem willing to resort to any means to force their belief system on "infidels"
Is it "Christian" to hate anyone? Is it "Christian" to spread hate from the pulpit, as is being done these days. Is it "Christian" to foment hate and racism against our elected leaders?
Is it "Christian" to help in the fight to deny health care to millions of Americans in order to support profits of a few corporations?
Nothing the "Christian Right" is doing is remotely Christian...they are allowing themselves to be brain washed and used by greedy CEO's and politicians who have their own agendas that have nothing to do with religion at all.
Anytime you see a preacher and a politician joining a cause...RUN because neither you nor your civil or constitutional rights are safe.
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Posted by: Lilly on Oct 2, 2009 9:45 AM
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Obaboo
O'Purple Lips
Mulatto Messiah
The Tan Man
Monkey Man
Power-mongering racist scum
Racist black Commie agitator
Drug dealer, drug addict
Chicago street gangster
Wants to make white people his slaves
Aunt Jemima (Michelle Obama)
Looks like a gorilla (Michelle Obama)
Welfare deadbeat sponging off taxpayers (the
Obama children's live-in grandmother)
White trash attracted to black men (the
President's mother)
"Put the 1/2 Honkey 1/2 Coon on the moon by June"
And VERY often townhall posts have said that Obama has not deserved his academic honors or high office and received them only because of Affirmative Action preferences---that he is "the puppet" of his white handlers---that he is incompetent to speak and only reads speeches from the teleprompter, and those speeches are written by white people.
My favorite: "Obama is just a happy-go-lucky black buck who likes to ride around on Air Force One. He leaves the business of government, which he does not understand, to his advisors. That is why he appointed so many."
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» Thanks Lilly. I'm glad I left townhall.com and the Republican Party and won't be going back.
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» RE: Thanks Lilly. I'm glad I left townhall.com and the Republican Party and won't be going back.
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» RE: Thanks Lilly. I'm glad I left townhall.com and the Republican Party and won't be going back.
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» RE: Lily, thanks for the 'evidence" doubters are looking for.
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Posted by: outsideagitator on Oct 2, 2009 9:46 AM
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Those of us who have gone out to t-bagger affairs or watched them on T.V. or been confronted by them at peace demonstrations, pro single payer marches or were at the anti-Glen Beck rally here in North Western Washington state recently got to see the real deal behind these despicable racist and fascist ignoramuses. They are not people one should pity or desire to reach out to. They are mean and vicious and intend to do harm. In their willfull ignorance, fueled by racist rage they are a danger to us all.
Joseph
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» RE: t-bagger affairs - confronted by them at peace demonstrations. etc
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» Excellent point, Lauren... he probably comes from a more racist area, althought....
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» RE: There should have been a study on that done so we had some real facts to deal with
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» Like I said, its happening on both sides, so don't be surprised....
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» Great comment! And take note who responded
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 2, 2009 10:05 AM
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Because they could tailor their message to those persons based on their beliefs, that is why. It really does't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
The GOP (God's Own Party) has injected racist images and rhetoric in their campaigns since Barry Goldwater ran for office, and probably before. They have associated blacks with welfare, even though the facts always supported the argument that whites were the largest abusers of the welfare system. I grew up in a white suburb and the welfare recepients were white kids, single, drug addicted, childless, and unemployed. But the MSM never focused on them. So here we have people who are always defensive when Alternet or any news organization ties them to a racist ideology. No matter how much proof exist they always ask, "Where's the proof?" If the proof was a ton of bricks landing on them, they would still be asking for more proof.
As to the black ministers who allowed themselves to be used to fill their coffers they should be pilloried by their communities. It isn't new that there are those who will chose money and power over righteous justice. That story is as old as the Bible itself, and can best be found in this verse from Matthew:
27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
The hypocrisy and wickedness is found in abundance in much of the posts regarding racism. Always asking for proof, without ever disproving the facts that have been presented for over 30 years. Time is up for you, disprove the premise of the article.
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» Desidid relies on multiple accounts and partisan shills to boost her ratings.
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» RE: You're Still Irrelevent
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» The more you say that the more I'm relevant
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» RE: Not To Me
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» You don't even know what you're talking about.
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» RE: Try Making A Point About The Issue And Providing
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» I already did and yet you kept acting like a rightwing motherf**ker on race baiting.
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» RE: Blah Blah Motherfucker Blah Blah Race-baiting
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» Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks. LOL !
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» It wasn't the GOP, it was the NEOCONS who did that.....
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Posted by: dover23 on Oct 2, 2009 10:09 AM
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It certainly appears that Alternet has been using the same tactic for the past year. Should we discuss the implications of an all too powerful central bank, corrupt politicians, an always expanding police state, and trillion dollar deficits, etc, etc, or should we just speculate on how a tiny percentage of the people concerned with these issues may be psychotic racists?
Is Alternet the new Fox News? It certainly appears they are trying their best to be, but I guess everyone's got to pay the mortgage.
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» RE: Despite The Right's Revisionist History Of Their Support Of MLK
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» Then why hasn't Alternet done this is a less inflamatory way? Why promote hate, rather deal with it
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» RE: How Do You Eradicate Racism
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» According to desidid, keep engaging in race baiting and reverse racism.
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» RE:The Art Of Personal Attack In Place Of A Real Argument Is So Karl Rove
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» You're the Karl Rove here. Why, even Karl Rove ain't a f**king race baiter like you.
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» RE: Blah Blah Blah Race Baiting Blah Blah Blah Reverse Racist
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» Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks. LOL !
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» RE: Is Alternet the new Fox News? No.
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» Like Obama, its not what they "say" that matters, its what they do...
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» RE: Is Alternet the new Fox News? No.
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Posted by: psychologist on Oct 2, 2009 10:20 AM
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» I used to be a right wing loser like you. When you go poor and can no longer post, you'll get it.
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» ITS THE NEOCONS WHO ARE BANCRUPTING AMERICA... HELLO ANYBODY HOME...
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» RE: Democrat teabagger
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» RE: Democrat teabagger
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» Thank you, Tony
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» Adolf Hitler loves rightwing hicks like you !
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» You're right about the bankers.
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» I apologize
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» Excellent comment, thank you! nm
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» Not fooled
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» Ok, makes sense, thanks for explaining.
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» CynicI/Prophit, blatant liar
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Posted by: Benn_Miller on Oct 2, 2009 11:45 AM
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» Viva la anarquia!
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» Adolf Hitler loves you cross burning Nazis like you !
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» Aaah, don't bite, he is one of the trolls that is here to say things that will ....
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» RE: Aaah, don't bite, he is one of the trolls that is here to say things that will ....
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» Et toi, tu seras le prochain!
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» Speak English, dumbass !
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» RE: Speak English, dumbass ! --Oops1
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» See, he says nothing, he's a troll and eating up bandwidth...
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Posted by: pg on Oct 2, 2009 11:59 AM
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» RE: Another Example Of Right-wing Reaching
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» RE: Another Example Of Right-wing Reaching
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Posted by: Kym525 on Oct 2, 2009 12:49 PM
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Now, as to my initial comment, the right NEVER left its racist roots. Racism and Religion are like peanut butter and jelly to these people. Their entire raison d'etre is based upon using the Bible to justify their hate. Oh, they are good at coding the language (as are most of the three-piece-suited racists these days), but it doesn't take a rocket scientist (or maybe it does) to hear what they're actually saying.
What sucks about this is that both fiscal conservatives and progressives actually have a lot in common when it comes to making the government accountable for their actions (or inactions). The problem is that the Tea Party movement and its message has been thoroughly hijacked by the far-right fringe and those in the movement are too blind to see that, so they overreact and/or hide their heads in the sand. Like they are always saying to blacks and other groups--clean up your own house FIRST and get rid of the lunatics who are destroying your message.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 2, 2009 1:04 PM
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Christians are not racists by any means. Why would they waste time trying to convert Hindus, Muslims, Africans, and Native Americans all of whom are colored if Christians were racists?
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» what's the difference Max?
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» Great question. Lots to say.
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» Great, then don't stop fighting..... thanks for that insight.
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» RE: Maxpayne, I don't always agree with you, but you can be thoughtful sometimes
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» interests are congruent but not overlapping
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» RE: interests are congruent but not overlapping
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» Exactly! you said "we have here is the RR capitalizing on the fear and anger for political power"
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» yes, I do realize this
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» RE: Religious Right Not Racist? Perhaps This History Written By An African Will Tell Another Story
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» Well instead of having this crying "never again" attitude, here a solution.
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» So will this link below tell a story, its the neocon bankers who are racists....
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» RE: I Understand You Have A Political Agenda
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» So do you. The Democrats could reinstate slavery and racism and you'd still be content with it !
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» RE: Blah Blah Blah Welfare Queen Blah Blah Blah Loser Blah Blah Blah
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» Poor desidid. The spoiled brat couldn't even fight. Awww. Poor bastard !
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» Gettin' a little short on them z's aye loser?
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» Update: Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks. LOL !
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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Posted by: ChicagoWay on Oct 2, 2009 2:30 PM
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One can always tell when the left are losing the battle too - they scream "Racist" - meaning just about anyone that disagrees with them. And the worse they are losing the louder they scream. Keep it up wingers - it just drives more independents back into the conservative camp. Keep attacking Christians/religion as racist too (80% plus of Americans). The GOP obviously needs the help.
'Hope and Change'? Not a chance. Some things never seem to change - like the hateful mind-set and sniveling contempt always on display by the far left.
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» loosing the battle?
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» But, sir, right above here you did the exact same thing?
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» not sure what you mean
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» Amazing... we had the same "intent"...
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» I don't uncritically accept the author's conclusions
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» That's good to hear.
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» The SPLC and ADL got caught lying and Daily Kos and Raw STory had to retract....
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» RE: Let's Name Some Popular Conservatives And Post Their Statements
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» Are you a racist??
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» desidid does a lot of race baiting and has admitted several times to reverse racism.
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» RE: Lying Doesn't Make You Relevent Either
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» Speak for yourself. Your race baiting and reverse racist behavior is killing you.
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» RE: Blah Blah Blah Race Baiting Blah Blah Blah Reverse Racist
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» Poor desidid. The spoiled brat couldn't even fight. Awww. Poor bastard !
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» Update: Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks. LOL !
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» RE: The Answer Was In The Post Perhaps You Couldn't Understand It
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» There is no post from Chicagoway to prove that he/she is "racist".
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» RE: Blah Blah Blah No Racism Blah Blah Blah No Affirmative Action
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» I don't go by usernames dude. I first go by the message body and then the name.
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» RE:Blah Blah Rig Ratings Blah Blah Use Other Acct. Blah Blah Welfare Queen
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» Poor desidid. The spoiled brat couldn't even fight. Awww. Poor bastard !
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» Poor desidid. The spoiled brat couldn't even fight. Awww. Poor bastard !
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» Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks.
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» You're right - didn't understand it...
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» RE: I Also Said You May Have A Comprehension Problem
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» A Comprehension Problem ??? Hardly.
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» RE:Blah Blah Affirmative Action zzzzzzzzzzz bored quicker
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» Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks.
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» No, My Response Was An Opinion Based On Your Own Words
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» RE: That Would Certainly Appy To You And Yes I Do Hate Republicans
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Posted by: Archie1954 on Oct 2, 2009 3:02 PM
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» Tell It To The Left Fringe
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» You ARE SO FULL of it
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» Full of What??
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» they would not
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» I think there is victim complex going on here
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» RE: Like many middle of the road
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Posted by: hughjordeal on Oct 2, 2009 5:12 PM
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This 'work' is thinly veiled vitriol lacking in journalistic neutrality, scholarship and sourcing. Liberal use of terms such as 'racist' and 'homophobe' show the juvenile perspective.
Hugh J'Ordeal
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Posted by: Eric.Arthur.Blair on Oct 2, 2009 5:34 PM
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(Of course, racism is both a form and symptom of stupidity.)
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Posted by: wordmaster on Oct 2, 2009 5:56 PM
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Second, please realize that no true American would accept the things Hussein Obama has done if they were done by a lily white president.
Third, please do your homework and find that out of every dollar going to those "oppressed" people you are so worried about, only about 13 cents actually makes it to a poor person. The rest is swallowed up in an overgrown government. No, if there is a problem of too much tax money going to those in need, it is not because we are helping those needy too much, it is because a wasteful government is stealing too much.
Fourth, please do just a little very simple homework and you will find that Hussein Obama is not a black president, he is just as much white as he is black. If someone hates him it is a fully qualified equal opportunity hatred. If that hatred is racially motivated, you must be referring to hatred by orientals... certainly not hatred by whites as he is as much white as he is black.
This article is one of the most silly ones I have seen in a long time.
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» RE: So the author thinks we would accept tyranny from a white pres?
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 2, 2009 8:17 PM
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Posted by: YogiBear on Oct 2, 2009 11:34 PM
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There's plenty vitrol on the left, but very few gun-toters or violent types compared to the right unless you count college kids throwing rocks at police barricades. Keep an eye out, you'll see it; the middle is terrified to mention bad things GOPers do without lumping Dems in with them.
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 3, 2009 7:00 AM
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You make statements as if they are based in some fact when in reality they are nothing more than opinions. They aren't even well thought out in many cases, they are like spaghetti, you blurt it out and hope it sticks. From defending the monkey comparisons, to defending the brutality of Christianity, which supported the slave trade, as nothing more than over zealous proselytizing is at best offensive. At worst it gets to the heart of why racism still exist. Because there is a large number of not only white people, but a smaller group of blacks who buy anything they're fed. And they have no intention of reading any history that confronts their uncomfortable ignorance.
Why don't I recall those who rail so against AA ever expressing the same vitriol against Bush the under achieving AA baby? I've come to realize that many of you think a level playing field has me at the bottom of the hill while you're at the top, and any time I start to make the climb up, you feign some injustice has been perpetrated granting me some advantage. The verbal contortions offered to disguise your true intent and nature are as diabolical as anything found in history.
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» Take it easy. Germany has nothing to do with racism in America.
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» RE: You're Still Irrelevent
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» Call who you want "irrelevant" but they will be the ones to play a major role for or against the GOP
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» RE: Not Only Have I Proved It But Here You Go For More Proof
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» RE: More Proof
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» More Proof that desidid misinterprets and screams "racism". LOSER ! LOL !
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» You lost desidid. Now quit being a sore loser and grow up. LOL !
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» You proved that you, not me, are the racist and race baiter here.
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» RE: You Better Look Again
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» Yep, sore loser desidid shooting her feet out.
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» Gee, I have a memory of laughing my a** off at the chimpanzee pictures of Bush...
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» RE: Your Guarantee Should Be Backed Up By Something Tangible
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» I forgot to give you a link proving missouri had to scrap all that gestapo stuff....
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» Check the previous posts. desidid hates 3rd parties and campaigns for Democrats like a partisan scum
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» RE: Yep You're Still An Irrelevent Racist And A Payneinthemax
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» The more you say that the more I'm relevant
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» RE: The more you say that the more I'm relevant ...Keep Dreaming
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» Ah ha, so desidid still thinks it's a "dream". Sore loser. LOL !
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» I just replied to you on your toys.
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» Ok, ok, I'll leave you alone. KIDS !
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» RE: Don't you dare tell me I wasn't a victim of any kind of "ism", I was ......
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» RE: Don't you dare tell me I wasn't a victim of any kind of "ism", I was ......
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» RE: BLAH BLAH BLAH ASSHOLE BLAH BLAH BLAH OFF TOPIC TALKING ABOUT RACISM UNDER AN ARTICLE ON RACISM
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» Desidid, you are framing yourself as the Number One SORE LOSER ! LOL !
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» RE: Lips Flapping But You're Just Yapping
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» Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks.
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» Keep your mouth shut and stop being a f**king race baiter !
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» RE: Still Irrelevent
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» The more you say that the more I'm relevant.
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» RE: Blah Blah Loser Blah Blah zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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» Desidid, you are framing yourself as the Number One SORE LOSER ! LOL !
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» Update: Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks. LOL !
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» Ok, ok, Fine, here are your stupid toys !
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» I just replied to you on your toys.
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Posted by: Caleb Darkstar on Oct 3, 2009 7:38 AM
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I doubt the author actually believes the things she has written herself. It is just another example of USING minority factions in this country to advance an unrelated ideology.
In this case the author wants desperately to create hatred against two groups, the religious right and the tea party tax protesters. To do this she needed an adhesive to bind the two.
Racism probably seemed the logical choice, however her argument was weak at best and full of inconsistencies and conjecture. Judging by the responses so far the average Alternet reader is not quite as ignorant as she believed them to be.
Minorities and blacks in particular have been USED in some capacity and to varying degrees throughout this nation’s history.
They have been USED for their labor, USED for their votes; sadly their historic plight is now being exploited by many to further their own unrelated agendas. Much like the hijacking of the Muslim faith by terrorists.
If the author has ideological differences with the two groups mentioned. She should make her argument on sound reasoning and strong facts. Not on the backs of a group of people that have been used enough.
Start carrying your own water; I'm sure the black man is tired of doing it for you.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 3, 2009 7:49 AM
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As much as they are using the jewish community as a means to justify and even provoke a Armegeddon like War in the Middle East, it could behoove them just as well to try to also ignite the African continent as well
These Snake oil Dealers and their self absorbed half wit followers are literally Hell Bent on destruction- They'll be the 'blessed generation' and have the chance to watch the rest of the world Burn as proof of their (self Ordained) Righteousness.
Just because the Evangelicals are willing to allow the other faiths and minorities the opportunity to stand at their bus stop, does not mean they have any intentions of letting them on.They too will be "Left Behind".Nothing more than a means to an End for the 'Charismatics'.
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Posted by: doug0202 on Oct 3, 2009 10:46 AM
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"was that the right cared as deeply as the left about issues like inner city poverty."
shows that liberals are just as mistaken about the issues as the conservatives.
All that either liberals or conservatives really care about is gaining power for the nesxt election. Either group will be for or against whatever issue they think will get them votes.
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Posted by: Priam1 on Oct 3, 2009 8:55 PM
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 4, 2009 8:04 AM
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The big problem with the Tea Bag movement is that it can--and in many cases has been-- co-opted by agents of the Regime...such as the odious Glenn Beck. Its easy for a well funded, organized minority to overtake the leadership of a movement....Just look at the Bolshies...funded by the Big New York banks... or, the fact that Nationalist movements in Germany, Canada and the UK have been headed up by men who were government agents. Just look at the informants like Hal Turner in the US racist movement and those in the Aryan Nations...not to mention the KKK. One can look as well at the informants in the Black Panther Party--and the 'activists' among Barrack Obama's familiars who helped trash the peace movement. If the mob can take over a union, it would be child's play for trained agents to take over a political movement.
'Tea baggers are racists'...You are a real piece of work, Michelle...
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 4, 2009 12:27 PM
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Pat Buchanan here
Trent Lott here
Ralph Reed leader of Christian Coalition's new direction bear in mind that are opening the door to those who "think like they do"
"This is not your daddy's Christian Coalition," Reed said in an interview Monday. "It's got to be more brown, more black, more female, and younger. It's critical that we open the door wide and let them know if they share our values and believe in the principles of faith and marriage and family, they're welcome." Hello Michael Steele, Condi Rice, Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas as long as a black person is willing to absorb and dispense the message of their white policy makers they are welcome. Pretty funny how the name Thomas (uncle tom) is so common among them.
Please read the e-mails and voicemails received by ACORN employees. And remember this is a Right-wing campaign against them.
here
James Dobson here
Lynn Jenkins (R-KS)here
GOP Letter here
The Southern Strategy The Southern strategy meant much, much more than some members of the G.O.P. simply giving up on African-American votes. Put into play by Barry Goldwater and Richard Nixon in the mid- to late 1960's, it fed like a starving beast on the resentment of whites who were scornful of blacks and furious about the demise of segregation and other civil rights advances. The idea was to snatch the white racist vote away from the Democratic Party, which had committed such unpardonable sins as enacting the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts and enforcing desegregation statutes.
I would say there is a case to be made to lump a certain shared ideology to the GOP. I voted 2 times for president, because I didn't like what I heard from any party. It seems to me if Republicans didn't like what they hear they too would stop voting.
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» But racism used to exist in the Democratic Party too until the GOP abandoned Lincoln and Eisenhower
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» You're the one doing all the race baiting and reverse racism here.
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» RE: What Do You Hope To Accomplish By Addressing Me?
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» I don't go by usernames dude. I first go by the message body and then the name.
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» RE: Blah Blah I'm Paranoid And Delusional Blah Blah Rig Ratings Blah Blah Reverse Racism
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» Thanks desidid for admitting you're wrong and I'm right. Sucks to be you. LOL !
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» Lips Still Flapping And You're Still Yapping
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» RE: You Should Know About Refusing To Conquer Racism
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» RE: But racism used to exist in the Democratic Party too until the GOP abandoned Lincoln and Eisenhower
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Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 4, 2009 9:47 PM
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 4, 2009 11:55 PM
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 5, 2009 1:51 AM
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[Report this comment] [Ignore this user] Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 5, 2009 1:20 AM
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Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 You're the fucking asswipe who can't talk about issues except race bait. Why, if you were my wife I'd have pounded you hard as hell. You're the f**king racist and race baiter in one.
Please if anyone can find a post where Maxpayne has actually offered support of his positions in links please direct me to it. In my opinion all he offers is personal attack. I could be wrong but the above post is the quality of most of his responses to me. Not very informative just a lot of ranting namecalling.
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» Thanks desidid for admitting you're wrong and I'm right. Sucks to be you. LOL !
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» I just gave you your toys ! Down boy/girl, down !
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Posted by: Newstime on Oct 8, 2009 10:00 PM
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One objective of the illegitimate "tea parties" is to deprive uninsured taxpayers of their Constitutional rights to the same health protection the Medicare payroll taxes withheld from their wages (and the income and other taxes they pay) provide for others. America's Founding Fathers would, of course, denounce unreformed Medicare as a publicly-funded health-benefits plan for private benefit--such taxation without representation.
For a sense of accomplishment today and to be doers more than talkers, let's all rally on health-care reform.
We all like this Website, don't we? Why don't we all do Alternet a favor by exercising our combined influence on the Obama Administration? It will show advertisers that Alternet's Website is really the place to advertise.
Let's copy and paste the suggested E-mail form below--do not modify, if inclined to, so much that our combined influence is reduced--use the convenient link below to the White House Website contact form, and E-mail President Obama. Our goal: We want E-mails from Alternet users and visitors piling up on the President's proverbial desk all day long tomorrow, so Mr. Obama has something to think about starting the weekend and to act on.
By Charles Hampton Savage/Editorial Columnist
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And save a copy of one of these E-mail forms--a more detailed option is posted at the comment, "Alternet users/visitors, rally on health-coverage reform: E-mail the Pres. today!" under the Health Care Reform in Home Stretch article--in your drafts folder, so you can follow-up. I've sent my E-mail already.
Option 1:
Mr. President, I have read a summary of the so-called second Aiken Memo, the Democrat-to-Democrat communication sent to the White House through Press Secretary Robert Gibbs' E-mail address more than a week ago. The summary of that E-mail is enclosed below for your convenience. The sender seemed perfectly willing to publish the White House's reply, if there were one. Please provide the White House's reply.
"President Obama will rarely enjoy greater advantage or exercise as much control over a public-policy outcome as he can on health-coverage reform right now. He needs to take matters by their smooth handle, as President Thomas Jefferson advised, and suggest to Democratic judicial appointee Ann Aiken in the Oregon District that she made a mistake and that she should concede, by way of corrective action on the judicial-misconduct complaint filed against her, that equal health protection is, indeed, a Constitutional right for uninsured taxpayers required to pay for the government health benefits of others, and complete strangers no less, while they are forced to do without."
I think you can guess, Sir, where my Democratic friends, family members and I stand on universal health care. When a course is right, simple and easy, we expect that course to be taken. Thank you.
Here is the link to the White House Website contact form:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
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» "Democratics"? "bloody stupid"?
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» Lets talk about REAL RACISM AT A HIGH LEVEL....."Eugenics".
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» CynicI/Prophit, Anti-Semite conspiracy theorist nutcase
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» Bollocks!
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» The Right is racist by definition
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» Hmmmm, but that narrative does not describe your subject line???
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» More divide & conquer by pitting left vs. right, Dems vs. Repugs, white vs. black, gay vs. straight,
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» Of course Iran is next and that does not bode well for our troops currently in Iraq...
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» RE: $12 Trillion in debt, huh? Did you know the worlds entire GDP is only $60 trillion???
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» In other words you don't have one.... lol So CLG is legit... sorry.
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» Sore loser desidid admits defeat. Thanks. LOL !
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» ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAAAA, Oh my stomach hurts....
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» "...Oh my stomach hurts". Really? No kidding?
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» More deflecting/distracting lies from CynicI/Prophit
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» That's not completely true.
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» Mr. Bill's alter-ego, Shey
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» When will you learn to keep your fantasy life to yourself, Preparation H?
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» RE: Alex Jones will exploit any president in order to fill his pocket's with money from his sheep.
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» So, bill, which one of the posts on here were you trying to hide in this thread that you don't want
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» STONEWALLING again, "prophit(0)"?
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» I'm not hiding anything, "prophit(0)", but here's what you're trying to hide:
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» STONEWALLING again, Max the compulsive liar?
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» RE: Alternet is Getting Freakier and Weirder By The Day
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» RE: defining terms; bums, elites
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» RE: defining terms; bums, elites
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» That is so true, and that also dates you.... we haven't had refinement, breeding, polish and
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» CynicI
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» I'll take Alternet over townhall.com any day.
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» What do you mean?
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» Leafsong, you are a reasonable and rational person.....
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Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 2, 2009 1:46 AM
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The one thing we all have in common, including myself, a Progressive, is a deep distrust of politicians. We think they are corrupt ... Wow! what a radical position! ...
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» I hope that deep distrust includes their owners, the bankers and robber barons...
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» I certainly appreciate your sentiments and hope that you are right,
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» RE: I certainly appreciate your sentiments and hope that you are right,
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» RE: I hope that deep distrust includes their owners, the bankers and robber barons...
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» EXCELLENT!! Didn't her husband write a book; Ponerology: Evil at a societal level?
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» RE: XCELLENT!! Didn't her husband write a book; Ponerology: Evil at a societal level?
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» Thats the guy.... Lobaczewski, he wrote "Ponerology: Evil at a Societal Level"....
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» RE: Thats the guy.... Lobaczewski, he wrote "Ponerology: Evil at a Societal Level"....
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» RE: Thats the guy.... Lobaczewski, he wrote "Ponerology: Evil at a Societal Level"....
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» Well, that is even worse, it means Zbig is censoring books....
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» RE: Well, that is even worse, it means Zbig is censoring books....
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» CynicI/Prophit:"Mossad is part of the Cheney death squad ....
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Posted by: Atheistno1 on Oct 2, 2009 2:18 AM
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Michelle has explained things very well when it comes to alternative figure of speech & the manipulation of public cognitive thought.
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Posted by: corey on Oct 2, 2009 2:42 AM
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American Humanist Association
American United for Separation of Church & State
Council for Secular Humanism
Freedom From Religion Foundation
Friends Committee on National Legislation
Interfaith Alliance Foundation
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Secular Coalition For America
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» RE: Please support the following organizations to assure America does not become a Theocracy
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» Good point, we just had an article on here highlighting that about Israeli women who want to date...
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» RE: Just look at the chef crew that gets flown around everywhere with him
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» RE: Just look at the chef crew that gets flown around everywhere with him
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» RE: we already have a not so subtle equivalent of slavery in effect in this country
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» That is exactly what they are trying to do. There are serious Eugenics racists in this country....
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» RE: There are serious Eugenics racists in this country, it is against Native Americans the most
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» RE: That is exactly what they are trying to do. There are serious Eugenics racists in this country....
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» Thank you, corey - finally,
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Posted by: 4America on Oct 2, 2009 3:59 AM
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The election of Obama has done nothing for race relations except drive a divide into it!
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» RE: The real racist
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» You prove the other side's point
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» RE: The real racist
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Oct 2, 2009 4:36 AM
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Even if she is all worked up, she should choose her words more wisely.
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» My reply to your comment.
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» And then you wonder why people hate Jews
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» you're ruining your credibility here, Leaf
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» Hey, hey, hey, she clearly made the distinction between normal regular Jews and the Zionists who are
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» Why don't you explain the difference between Zionist...
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» I'm All Ears If You Wish To Expand On Your "Thoughts"...
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» 6'3", 300 lbs, facial hair, and a fully funtional package
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» RE: you're ruining your credibility here, Leaf
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» then you need to make more careful distinctions
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» RE: then you need to make more careful distinctions
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» Apologies to "Mr." leafsong1
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» Keep your mouth shut. You're just angry at leafsong1 for being disgusted with Obama for
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» well, I'm not Max
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» DrClaw, my apologies. I just looked back once again and realized that I overreacted.
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» RE: Apologies to "Mr." leafsong1
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» you continue to show
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» RE: you continue to show
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» leafsong1, there are Jews in Israel who are pro-peace and do not support what
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» RE: leafsong1, there are Jews in Israel who are pro-peace and do not support what
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» Very true, re. leafsongs dwindling credibility
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» Even a broken clock is right twice a day
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Posted by: lclark on Oct 2, 2009 4:42 AM
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I have noticed that Alternet will eventually ascribe to people opposed to a certain set of social goals as being racist. It could be illegal migrations or what the Tea Party represents.
Consider health care reform. What's in the law? Don't buy a product and you face fines. We all suspect that as soon as that is law most companies will drop health coverage and more of our ( decreasing ) earnings will be given over to the rich and powerful by legislative mandate.
I think many people:
- are disgusted with both the Democratic and Republican parties and see them as both corrupt and servents of a corportocracy.
- see that citizens are managed rather than represented. Powerful private groups with wealth and agendas select who runs for public office and who gets media exposure and the kind of media exposure they get and that the democratic process is an illusion. Who funds Alternet?
- see that are productive capacity has been sent overseas and the basis of our middleclass exported.
- see the poor quality of public education. Many graduates do not have basic mental skills nor manual skills not civic skills but are exposed to extensive social engineering.
- see the "private-public" partnerships is about transferring public assets and wealth to private hands.
- see that giving public money to religious institutions is contrary to the founding principles of this country
- see the concentration of wealth into the hands of fewer people.
- see more and more we are subject to ways we have to "show our papers" to travel in our own contry, weather its at the airport or driving on public roads.
- see "free speach" zones replacing free public expression.
- see police use devices developed by the military deployed against public protest, i.e., "sonic cannons" at the late G-8 meeting in Penn.
- see all these foreign wars and transnational treaties as a scam to grab more public wealth and weaken nation sovreignty and dismantle the national unity.
- see the rise in gangs in urban areas as a breakdown in community that reflects a broader gangsterism that government has come to reflect.
Oh, and see if some group is not in agreement with the agenda of who gets publushed in Alternet eventually that grouping will be label racist.
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» RE: I don't see the connection
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» Take your racist filth elsewhere!
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» RE: "You are either with us or you are with the KKK."
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» I think your missing the point, Lauren. There is an agenda in all these hate articles....
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» RE: There is an agenda in all these hate articles....
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» LETS HOPE NOT..... If it is then I need to go somewhere else.
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» THIS IS NOT A "HATE ARTICLE" CynicI/Prophit, you moron
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» Alternet is an echo chamber
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» I don't see the connection between the Tea Party movement and the attitudes you describe
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» Leafsong, I think this movement got out of control of the oligarchs is what happened.
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» Wow, I am impressed, you have identified at a core level exactly what is going on.
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» RE: I don't see the connection
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» That's because it ISN'T a bipartisan group
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Posted by: Nitestallion on Oct 2, 2009 5:04 AM
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Just because a man's views are weird or unpopular doesn't mean that they are incorrect. Don't go on a hay ride just for the frills and thrills. It took me forever to learn to say no, and understand that was alright! Say no not to religion: say no to fuzzy thinking, deliberate lies, and irrational acts. Religions can be fun and good if they serve a county picnic with music and comestibles. If they start preaching call the men in the little white coats!
In caricature religious philosophers are strictly bovine. Would you want to learn the square dance from a Holstein? Or perhaps integral calculus from a Guernsey? Your spirit is your own your body is the temple. Do not let Pulpit Pounders paradiddle a tympani on your skull. Learn to do your own thinking and pay your dues to living your own way with the beating of your heart. And NEVER but NEVER let a church take control of governance!
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Posted by: snowhound on Oct 2, 2009 5:28 AM
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» OMG! NWO! WTF?
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» Add Sister_Lauren to the ranks of "haters"
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» I'll bet Shey and Guitarbullshit have very close connections here.
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» Your ignorance is showing
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» RE: Your ignorance is showing
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» Coincidence?
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» RE: OMG! NWO! WTF?
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» RE: OMG! NWO! WTF?
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» Alex Jones and David Icke can bite me
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» I forgot to mention, he predicted what happened with the Fed Res and the bankers....
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» Ron Paul is an anti-choice Social Darwinist
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» Ron Paul is for ending the drug war and the wars for oil. Obama is not.
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» Runaway capitalism
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» RE: Yo dude, you forgot all about mentioning the actual contributions of our indigenous culture
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» RE: unaway capitalism
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» Yes, fomenting racism has been used by the NWO to divide us & to sway elections for a very long time
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» Remember, this racism is much more insidious than we can ever imagine.
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» RE: who are the super rich putting it into effect?
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» Oh, how funny, comcast was one of those companies that did the bush spying early....
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» RE: emember, this racism is much more insidious than we can ever imagine.
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Posted by: chariotdrvr14 on Oct 2, 2009 6:37 AM
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Why else in the verified account of a dramatic rise in a number of white nationalist organisations' membership lists? The rise of threats to the president coinciding with increasing emotional racially charged rhetoric from leading rightwing bloggers like Matt Drudge, radio talkshow hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck who use incidents of racially related schoolfights to attack President Obama and his supporters?
You can argue that Obama's policies are inciting the rightwing but the reactions of everything from heckling him during major congressional speeches to encouraging people to bring guns to his appearances run beyond the pale of simple disrespect of his office (which they've never done to any white president...even the liberal ones)
I think all that speaks for itself.
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» RE: And neither will denying the boards exist.
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» You obviously only read the American MSM, don't you? You should try...
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» can we have a reasonable discussion about this?
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» RE: can we have a reasonable discussion about this?
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 2, 2009 6:42 AM
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It has been said that "religion is the opiate that's fed to the people" - now more than ever is that being applied. The people have been dumbed down, and are ignorant of the facts: our politicians have been bought by the Corporate Oligarchy, in turn they have rewritten and abolished the laws that were in place to help the average American. In these tough times, when the masses are afraid because the Government is not responding effectively enough for WE THE PEOPLE, the carpet baggers (Rush, Glenn, Hannity, et.al) have always used the fear of the people against other, to keep them in line for their aggrandizing agenda! It's just too bad for those that support the loudmouths, they are to ignorant to realize how badly they are being used against their own self interest!
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» RE: eligion..............
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» RE: Don't worry, like us on the left, they are waking up.... i can prove it.
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» Good news, Lauren, it wll be nice when we can quit getting this garbage on our site....
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Posted by: daw13 on Oct 2, 2009 6:44 AM
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» RE: The Left Can Only Absorb One "Minority" Group At A Time
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» RE: give Obama credit for his willingness to place people who oppose his point of view at the table
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 2, 2009 7:09 AM
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To see so many denialists on the comments just reinforces it for me. But for the Xtians and the owning-class we might have a decent space to live, work and defecate.
Welkum to 'Merkuh, I guess. Jeebus fuck, I need coffee.
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» RE: the wingnuts are out this mornin'!
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» Right on with what you say.
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» RE: the wingnuts are out this mornin'!
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» RE: I thought the racists always were racist, this is just bringing them out of the closet
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 2, 2009 7:14 AM
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Coincidence? Um, yeah... no.
If'n people can't see the clusterfuck closin' in, they're just too god damned fuckin' stoopit to live. Like watchin' dipshits watching the F5 tornado bearing down on the front porch, "Willi, git me nuther beer, will ya? This here video's goin' be awesome... gonna win me sup'n on that yootoob, by jayzis!"
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» I want to see if I understand your phrase "...They're just too god damned fuckin' stoopid to live!"
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» Reading comprehension class might help you but I doubt it.
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Posted by: Evelyn on Oct 2, 2009 7:22 AM
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» Is it merely anti-government sentiment, or is it anti-corrupt government sentiment???
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Posted by: MichaelGoodhart on Oct 2, 2009 7:26 AM
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I used to be a rightwing nut as a disgruntled left out kid and thought that the conservatives were beaming me up. After Terri Schiavo and Hurricane Katrina, my conservative spirit began to wane. I used to buy into rightwing economics as well until I faced eviction upon getting into debt. I am still a moderate conservative on some issues but I am not a townhall.com freak.
We can find plenty of things to bash Obama about but at least he's not too liberal. What would John Mccain or Sarah Palin have done other than piss off more lukewarm conservatives?
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» RE: Get Over Racism and Get a Life
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 2, 2009 7:42 AM
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