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ForeignPolicy

The Military's Pricey Restaurant Tastes: Gone Are the Days of Grunts Peeling Potatoes

By Nick Turse, Metropolitan Books. Posted May 8, 2008.


Judging by the Pentagon's own accounting, the army, navy, air force and marines have been very hungry -- and they've been chowing down.
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"The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives" (Metropolitan, 2008) by Nick Turse.
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The following is an excerpt from Nick Turse's book, "The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives" (Metropolitan, 2008).

When you think of food and the U.S. military, you undoubtedly picture a long chow line where a grunt serves up chipped beef on toast, lowly privates peeling potatoes on KP duty, and semi-inedible old C-rations or more modern military field fare like palate-numbing Meals-Ready-to-Eat (MREs).

But that's the old military, not the new, modern variant -- and not just because private corporations like Kellogg Brown & Root have taken over the mess halls from construction to cooking. These days, like the rest of America, the army loves to eat out. No messy preparation. No dishes to clean up. Not a chip of beef in sight. And, best of all, it's on someone else's tab. The U.S. taxpayer's. Judging by the Pentagon's own accounting, the army, navy, air force, and marines have been very hungry and they've been chowing down.

As it happens, the army has definite gastronomic tastes. Some ethnic foods, for instance, just about never make it to the table. Due to the arcane nature of the Pentagon's accounting, it is almost impossible to know for sure, but the tally on Asian food (although not Asian bases) appears to be:

Vietnamese restaurants 0
Thai restaurants 0
Indian restaurants 0
Japanese restaurants 0
And don't even ask about Afghan food!

But while it's a no-go on sushi, cooked fish is another military matter. In 2004, for instance, the army spent more than $5,000 at Chic-A-D's Cajun Chicken & Catfish Restaurant in Winnsboro, Louisiana. That same year, the catsh-hungry army dropped $6,500 at Capt'n Morgan's Steak & Catfish Restaurant in Diberville, Mississippi, and over $7,300 at Kenny's Katfish Depot in Dequincy, Louisiana. But since, as Napoleon once observed, an army marches on its stomach, the U.S. Army cannot live on catfish alone. Sandwiches are, apparently, also a must, so army eaters plunked down $13,845 at a Quiznos Classic Subs in Louisiana.

In Arkansas, the military dropped significant sums at such "Natural State" restaurants as: Rodeo Cafe ($3,485), Molly's Diner ($5,400), Annie's Family Restaurant ($8,996), and the Crispy Taco Mexican Grill ($19,283), among other establishments. While these 2004 gures were impressive, they paled in comparison to the combined sum paid out to just two El Nopal Restaurant locations in Arkansas (more than $423,000) in 2006. And for dessert, perhaps, the DoD spent a whopping $7.9 million at Arkansas's own White Dairy Ice Cream Company that same year.

But Arkansas was only a drop in the proverbial bucket (of chicken, no doubt). Military folks also sampled the fare at numerous other eateries across the country. Just a few examples from 2004:

  • Copper Mill Restaurant (Logan, UT) $10,878

  • Bristol Bar & Grille (Louisville, KY) $5,026

  • Englewood Cafe (Independence, MO) $5,026

  • Pericos Mexican Restaurant (Covington, TN) $4,050

  • Big Mama's Kitchen (Fayette, AL) $3,705

  • Timber Lodge Steakhouse (Sioux Falls, SD) $2,544

and some DoD favorites from 2006:

  • City Caf (Elgin, TX) $26,350

  • Home Plate Restaurant (Butner, NC) $47,917

  • Pelican Caf (New Orleans, LA) $105,670

While the military clearly savors its catfish and tacos, what it really loves is barbeque! In fact, the military has sampled barbeque all across the United States -- from Shotgun's Bar-B-Que Restaurant in Texas and Bo's Pit Bar-B-Que in Missouri to the Pig N' Whistle in Tennessee and Longhorn Barbecue in Washington State. In 2004, the army shelled out at least $164,828 to get its fingers greasy. In2005 and 2006 combined, the Pentagon spent over half this amount at Corky's Bar-B-Que of Memphis, Tennessee.

While U.S. taxpayer dollars have regularly morphed into barbequed wings and ribs (with not a vegetarian restaurant in sight), the DoD wasn't completely gastronomically timid. In their travels abroad, military officials apparently did manage to sample foreign cuisine, supping at, among other places: Restaurant Schinvelderhoeve in the Netherlands ($2,133 in 2004) and Restaurante El Escudo Sociedad in Guatemala (an astounding $82,291 in 2004) and -- evidently the grand champion -- Singapore's First Street Cafe, where the DoD reportedly spent $151,883 in 2004, $216,646 in 2005, and, an astounding $310,776 in 2006, eating who knows what.


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Nick Turse is the associate editor and research director of Tomdispatch.com. He has written for the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Nation, the Village Voice, and regularly for Tomdispatch. He is the author of the new book, "The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives" (Metropolitan, 2008).



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Is this for real?
Posted by: Rune on May 8, 2008 1:46 AM   
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The DoD cannot account for more than a trillion dollars, defense contractors routinely run up billions in cost over runs while providing late and/or under valued deliverables, hundreds of thousands of our troops are deployed in an illegal war of aggression built on an illegal propaganda campaign, those same troops have been getting exposed to all sorts of environmental hazards including unsafe drinking water supplied by KBR, those that are not killed during ever longer stop loss rotations are being spit out damaged and substantially uncared for in staggering numbers, more than 100 of these abused vets are driven to attempt suicide every week according to the VA, half of our bloated federal budget is getting blown out on military and spy equipment and adventures, and we are supposed to care that someone has been eating barbecue or jambalya instead of Spam or some other junk food?

What next, an in depth expose of the amount of fuel wasted by shipping kidnapping victims to far off lands to be tortured instead of committing those human rights violations closer to home? Get some perspective, huh? SHEESH!

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» RE: Is this for real? Posted by: Miki
» RE: Is this for real? Posted by: 4changenow
» RE: Is this for real? Posted by: Lauren
I recall a friend's story
Posted by: Squarehead on May 8, 2008 3:12 AM   
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I recall a friend's story; he was serving in Iraq a couple of years ago. KBR (I think) were getting $38 per day, per man/woman that they had to feed.

Meanwhile, the Pakistani canteen operator had to operate on less than $7 per day, per man. The food quality was commensurate with $2.30 per meal. No fault of the Pakistani guy, he just was not given the resources.

I imagine that KBR did very nicely from their admin costs.

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Another horrible article
Posted by: blogbooks on May 8, 2008 3:24 AM   
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These purchases were clearly done by DoD travelers out on business using their government credit card.

*Gasp*, military personnel away from home station on official government business eat food.

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» RE: Another horrible article Posted by: mainspark
» RE: Another horrible article Posted by: AFWXMAN
Not a real problem
Posted by: AndyF on May 8, 2008 4:29 AM   
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From the examples shown here, it seems that the military doesn't eat at expensive restaurants when it is travelling or use real expensive caterers for some of its events. The article would have been more informative if in addition to listing the totals spent with different vendors it also listed how many meals were purchased so that a cost per meal could be calculated. Based on the names of the restaurants cited, my guess is that the author is showing a lot of $5-$10 lunches by military recruiters and other people the military has travelling as part of their job.

For even less effort than was spent on this article, the author could have probably dug up some real dirt on wasteful spending related to contracted services or unnecessary weapon and support systems.

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» RE: Not a real problem Posted by: wishninja
The Resident gives the bird or How a total Jack Ass gets the BOOT!
Posted by: williameon on May 8, 2008 4:41 AM   
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One Turkey serves up another.
Chicken Feed in
The Black Hole called Defense!

A Smorgasbord of Expense
It vacuums the food right off your plate.
The Holy Grail of The American
Religion of violence.
Bend over to The Corpirates
God of Greed.
Same Greedy Bass-turds
Same Greedy Channel.
Profit my A-S!
It’s Highway Robbery.
Steal from the Poor to give to The Rich.
Pump that Schlock Baby.

Iraq!
Halliburton and Carlyle’s
Dicks Golden Goose.

Who is the largest user of Fossil Fuels in the World?
The U.S. Military.
Besides driving up oil supplies by disrupting the supply it,
Takes a lot of Fuel to make the Military Industrial Complex Hum.
Sitting Ducks in Hum-Vs only get a couple of miles per explosion.
No oil to heat your house but plenty to
Waste in a phony War.
Still playing with soldiers?
When will we grow up and move on.

Millions killed and for what?
Stop The War and Oil will drop by 50%.
Do you hear me NOW?
Turn the meat grinder off,
Kick the Jack Asses out of Washington and
Oil will drop by HALF.

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» Very Clever! NM Posted by: Gravitas
So privitization saves Money HOW?
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 8, 2008 4:58 AM   
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I have no problem feeding our military personnel well, but once again we see how the 'Privatizion' of essential good and services cost more then doing things ourselves. This is not just reflected, or happening in the Military- it's been happening in helath care, education , prison system , National Economy (BS Fed.Reserve)...
This not Cost effectiveness this is plain and simple Profiteering at the expense of not just money but safety & welfare of our citizens. Such Independent 'Contractors' should be not only thrown our of Gov't led ventures- both they and the Gov't insiders whould be prosectured for treason, War Crimes and Crimes aganist Humanity. Enough of these immoral and Unethical Business doctrines and the people who initiate them. It is time to really Change the way WE do buisness and With Whom. To halt this quickly and permanently Individulas must be convicted and Punished for their High crimes. it's time the Gov't and the Inc's find out what Real Personal Responsiblity Is. They have been more than happy to 'Teach' US this lesson, killing US and our country while they float on their 'golden parachutes'

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DoD opposes funding vets' education. . .
Posted by: redceres on May 8, 2008 5:39 AM   
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. . . and is actively fighting Sen. Jim Webb's bill to give current vets the same deal enjoyed by people like candidate McShame because 1) it's "too expensive" and 2) it would "hurt retention." McShame himself refuses to take a position on the bill.

Chew on that.

The interesting part is that fully funding an undergrad degree for every American vet would cost less than the DoD's yearly recruiting bill.

The military is pulling these costly corporatized food shenanigans as a retention gimmick (read: a cheap buyoff).

Oh-- and one more thing: the people who profiteer around weapons/war and the people who profiteer around the privitization of necessities such as food and water are THE SAME PEOPLE.

At least, they're all committing or complicit in a conspiracy to put regular folk world-wide in an unbreakable chokehold.

When we ALL have to pay into the corporate system in order to eat or drink because this class of folk has bought up and locked down our food and water supplies under the guise of "free enterprise," maybe it will finally be time for that revolution that we're all too passive (pacified?) to spark.

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banana republic
Posted by: QCao009 on May 8, 2008 5:47 AM   
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So now we have become the world's biggest and most powerful junta. The economy is going through a slow down: the loot is slowly going down into W and Dick's offshore and Swiss bank accounts. It's a way to reward supporters and launder money.

Privatization now means profiteering.

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» RE: banana republic Posted by: WolfieSense
» RE: banana republic Posted by: Lauren
It's only money. It grows on trees, doesn't it? (Congress thinks so)
Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian on May 8, 2008 5:47 AM   
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Today, Congress will vote on yet another supplemental funding bill for the illegal Iraq occupation. The total bill is $162.6 billion, including $70 billion for fiscal year 2009, keeping the funds for the occupation of Iraq flowing into the next administration. The additional funds will bring the total for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to $874 billion.

Call Congress and ask them to sign onto HR 5507 and not to fund this war supplemental. Call 202.224.3121 and ask to be connected to your Congressperson by giving your district, name or zip code. Then, tell your representative to stop funding this illegal occupation and sign-on to a comprehensive exit strategy outlined in HR 5507.

Do it now. Don't wait.

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Wasted Space
Posted by: robbie.seal on May 8, 2008 6:02 AM   
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I read this article expecting something, but am left with the thought, "Where's the beef?" I have news for you, when we are out of town on business or hosting a large meeting, we spend money for food. There is actually a budget. Wonder why we don't go to the Dining Facility (new name for Mess Hall)? If we can keep everyone in one place by providing food and beverages, we can get more done in less time. If you think the Army should go back to the days of soldiers preparing food instead of KBR, you have never enjoyed the quisine of the good old Mess Hall while deployed. There was never enough and what was there was hardly edible. Is there waste in the system? Heck yea, just like every other government run system. Think about that when you consider government run health care...

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Privatization and the transfer of wealth.
Posted by: leland61 on May 8, 2008 6:03 AM   
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Privatization of the military was never intended to save the tax payer any money. It was designed to do exactly what it is doing. Transferring wealth from the working classes to the wealthy classes in a way that no one is supposed to notice.

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Oh my god! People eat food. Run!!!!!!
Posted by: kungfoofighterx on May 8, 2008 6:11 AM   
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Imagine what a college football team spends when it goes out for food. If its a state school thats state money. Never mind what state and federal elected officials must spend on food.
Everyone desires a free now and again on the boss. I think it is part of our culture. Its probably part of every culture.
I didnt even get the point of this article. That the military doesnt spend a lot on assian food? Or maybe they are saying food is a waste of tax payer money? Editors are on vacation or maybe dead and the webmasters are still collecting their social security checks.

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USDA Grade D
Posted by: Actual on May 8, 2008 6:19 AM   
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Pretty sad... back when I was in the navy (96-02), we would load food onto our sub just prior to patrol. I always knew that we were in for a real culinary treat when we would load the boxes labeled "USDA Grade D Beef; Rejected by Federal Prison (insert name)" I'm glad someone in the military is eating well (sarcasm)

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WTF
Posted by: swamiji on May 8, 2008 6:21 AM   
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Amazing numbers but I'd appreciate a bit more detail about these 'food' expenses like who the hell was ordering all of this and for what occasion and who authorized all of this? I sure hope Mr. Turse goes into more detail in his book. It just freakin' astounds me how NO ONE in Congress or the Admin. EVER questions these obscene 'military' expenditures and the amount of waste/fraud/abuse that goes on continuously. It's obvious that NO current memebers of govt. have the courage to stand up to the MIC- did NOBODY ever hear/ read Eisenhowers speech warning about how the MIC would grow unchecked by the trillions of dollars if no one stopped them? The obscene Dept. of War budget makes me ill...while people are dying from lack of health care, homeless because of immoral lenders and ignorant due to lack of education because there's 'no money in the budget' for effective programs that would actually improve the lives of Americans. The majority of sheeple in this country evidently don't mind spending more on the War Dept. than the rest of the world combined as long as it supplies us with the most lethal arsenal of WMD on earth!!!

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pick your battles?
Posted by: Elmowilcox on May 8, 2008 6:52 AM   
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Umm yeah, I'd have to agree with article-haters on this one. I'd have to support making sure our troops are at least eating well, given the deplorable conditions of every other aspect of their daily life. And as someone already pointed out, these are probably people in "lunch meetings" or otherwise offbase, and they seem to mostly pick locally-owned, small businesses to eat at, which is actually honorable. If they frequented Olive Garden, Pappadeaux's, or Outback Steakhouse more often, those numbers would be a hell of a lot higher, I assure you. If there was a $5 million dollar bill in there for Mickey D's, I'd be up in arms. As it stands, let the men eat.
If we built just one less warship or bomber this year, it would more than cover the costs discussed here, with enough left over to send several thousands of citizens to college tuition free. But we can't have that.

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I don't have a problem feeding our military,
Posted by: bitsfick on May 8, 2008 7:10 AM   
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but at least give them healthy meals. These are meals high in cholesterol, saturated fats, salt, and loaded with empty calories.

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» Eyeroll Posted by: Gravitas
» RE: There are not a lot of Posted by: bitsfick
» RE: yeroll Posted by: HoboHomo
Sander
Posted by: darsimaj on May 8, 2008 8:14 AM   
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The DoD and the Pentagon should explain why they still believe it's ok to simply throw food away. For example, the Navy has this little treat called "Pass and Review" and is offered at boot camps around the country.
This is when the recruit gets his/her tray of food and the supervisor simply tells them to throw it in the trash.

The comeback? Well you are simply told that you were guaranteed 3 meals a day, but not time to eat them. So for the math people here ya go. Each company has 80 recruits and there are usually 12 companies training at a time. The Navy boot camp is 8 weeks long and this happened twice during those 8 weeks. So our company threw away 60 perfectly good meals and multiply that by 12 and you end up with over 700 discarded meals every 2 months.

I went to boot camp in 1984 and it was in practice and a graduate from April 2008 says that is still a practice. So, for over 24 years the Navy has been ok with throwing away millions of dollars of food, just because. Now multiply all that times the number of boot camps and you get a staggering amount of food and money wasted.

In a time when people are finding it difficult to purchase food, their tax dollars go to the military who finds it perfectly acceptable to throw the food in the trash.

I wrote my Senator, I suggest you all do the same. It angers me to no end.

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» RE: Sander Posted by: Lauren
SOS now means "steaks on a skewer."
Posted by: HughScott on May 8, 2008 8:59 AM   
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Enough said.

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It's all fake
Posted by: willymack on May 8, 2008 9:04 AM   
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We have a fake prezdint as a result of not one, but TWO fake elections. We have a fake arch villian to fear and loathe, who may or may not still be alive, and in any event is probably harmless. We have a fake war going on which is sapping our national treasury, killing off our best military personnel, and brutalizing the Iraqi and Afghani people, all over fake weapons of mass destruction and fake mushroom clouds. We have a fake public school system, fake EPA, fake "patriot" act, and fake trials of fake terrorists at Guantanamo, Cuba. We have a fake group of Arab patsies who supposedly pulled off the Crime of the Century, and making fools out of NORAD, airport security, and our military establishment. Finally, we have a fake war hero who wants to keep everything going just as it's been, because it's the right thing to do. Before you ding me on the last statement, google "John McCain's conduct during the Vietnam War", then see what you think.

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» no, not all of it... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
Does Turse Have "The Goods" on Alternet, or what??
Posted by: larryfhilton on May 8, 2008 9:49 AM   
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Why else would Alternet waste our time publishing this idiot's rants against such imaginary military "sins"? Officers and enlisted men are not always near a mess hall while on duty, and just like in private business, their employer is expected to pay for their meals. Unlike private business people they do not eat at the most expensive restaurants. So what's the problem??
Please stop publishing this fool's rants and look at the billions being wasted by the military-industrial complex for some general's favorite new toys, 99% of which are not what we need to fight terrorists.

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Come on now...
Posted by: Jdog on May 8, 2008 10:53 AM   
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From the title and article summary, I thought this was going to be about the average grunt in Iraq living high on the hog, stuffing himself on pastries and caviar.

As a Gulf War vet with 6-years active duty, I was curious to learn how things have changed. Had GI's been living fat, I would have been pleasantly surprised, actually, given how atrociously the Cheney Administration has treated them to this point...

Instead, I was disappointed by a goofy article that, clearly, was written by someone with no knowledge of the military or even the enormity of the military's budget. $800 billion in cash missing in Iraq and $20,000 for fish is the big deal?!?! Give me a fucking break.

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» RE: Come on now... Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Come on now... Posted by: Jdog
listreen
Posted by: lincolntalbot on May 8, 2008 11:11 AM   
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this is a good article. that's all there is to it.

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Food for the defenders
Posted by: carbon-based on May 8, 2008 12:03 PM   
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So, now liberals feel our troops do not deserve the best food we can give them. Try doing what our military is asked to do and see if you do not appreciate a good meal!

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Why is this article filed under "Foreign Policy"
Posted by: Rune on May 8, 2008 12:12 PM   
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Is eating in a restaurant when traveling out of the country really an exercise in foreign policy? Who knew?

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How much did they spend on Pepto?
Posted by: drjasonmd on May 8, 2008 1:42 PM   
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I'll file this one with the golf course "scandal." Apparently the author doesn't realize that military personnel aren't always near a messhall. Seriously, bro, listing expense reports is not research. I thought he was going to report that the troops were dining at Nobu. I see it's the same mid-level faire we enjoyed when I was a lowly private traveling on duty.

The real scandal here is the 3,000 bloomin onions! And O'Douls? The troops deserve better.

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THIS IS OLD NEWS
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 8, 2008 2:06 PM   
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The food concession story started at the very beginning. Not all soldiers eat this well, but for alot of people in Iraq there is no shortage of restaurant quality food. I don't mean fast food. Cafeteria help are paid around $75,000 a year. The administration can't keep all it's friends rich by serving the usual military rations. Everyone is cashing in. It's about privitzation. Thanks, ANNA

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Umm, this can't be healthy for the soldiers.
Posted by: SOWILO on May 8, 2008 2:38 PM   
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The food they're eating isn't too healthy, never mind the cost.

If we fought the Vietcong today we would be trounced even worse!!!

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$1000's on food, Oh NO!
Posted by: I-I on May 8, 2008 5:08 PM   
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This is ridiculous, Americans are buying food from Americans. This scandal is another horrible example of endemic government waste. Culpability lies throughout the entire governmental/military hierarchy .

Rise up people and demand with me, "No BBQ on Our Watch!!!"

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Billions Down the Drain to Maintain the "American Foreign Legion"
Posted by: sofla100 on May 8, 2008 6:34 PM   
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Maintaining the "American Foreign Legion" is an expensive affair. The "volunteer Army," alone is sucking away $50 billion a year just to pay the lavish retirement benefits. The American military is simply way too large, and by its very nature, invites trouble (since it can be used) such as we are seeing in Iraq. America would be much better off with a smaller Army and military, akin to what she had after WWI. The fact that "outsourcing" is such a ripoff is just more icing on the cake. We have so many unmet needs at home. Millions without health care and even thousands starving. Kids who cannot go to safe or decent schools. Just what the hell are we doing in places like Iraq and keeping thousands of troops in countries like Germany? Wasting billions and billions of dollars, and for what?

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Ok, people. Let's get a few MAJOR facts straight about the troops and food.
Posted by: maxpayne on May 8, 2008 7:40 PM   
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Now I understand how surprising it can look when the current stockpile of food being fed to our troops is the same POISON the average Joe and Jane here in America eat all the time. Yeah, I work for a defense contractor and there are plenty of restaurants ready to serve and as I have to walk across the hall everyday, I see federal employees and even regular civilians all nice and fat and waiting in line everyday to pick another fossil-fuel burned pile of crap (hint: Every calorie of processed fatty food requires 10 calaries of petroleum to be burned) to eat. And of course, don't forget the wraps. All those food wrappers require plenty of petro to manufacture too. And then of course a bag of some junk snack and even a nice big bottle of soda and I've discussed plastic and petro in other posts so I'll leave you to do a google search on that. Now what does this have to do with the article? First off, it's all that petroleum America (well, the political, corporate, zionist elites) is so desperately trying to grab. Now, if soldiers had to make their own food, not only would they cut down oil consumption, they would also be healthy and have a SUPER-STRONGER mind to FIGHT BACK and SHUT DOWN this illegal war-turned-occupation. See, fast food dulls the brain and keeps you ignorant. In addition, all this junk food is kept artificially "cheap" so of course the Pentagon has everything to gain from it. The sad irony is that troop or just citizen, the American electorate is sadly stuck with more longer term PAVLONIAN "dogs" who'll fall for the same bullshit everytime because it's too damn seductive. Keep as many troops ignorant and it will all drag on. So instead of actually giving them real training in hard labor, they'll be POISONED with nice and soft whoppers, mcskillet burritos, Dairy Queens, etc ... with no regards for the facts that all that junk to chow down comes from someone else's mass sufferings elsewhere.

I strongly suggest that if you have a friend, spouse, son or daughter, etc ... who's in the army, please train them to cook well. They'll not only get true strength but they'll also stand up to the CHEATERS in Washington, Wall Street, Military Industrial Complex, war-mongering talkshow hosts, etc ... Now there's some real patriotism everyone can enjoy.

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Half Truth to inflame you is for idiots.
Posted by: made2order on May 10, 2008 3:58 PM   
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I am very proud of all the ones, who did think for themselves & not fall for tricky
Propaganda. As I realize how the internet is corrupted big time
With DIS- INFO more daily. Our controllers hire more & more people opening
Websites to throw 95% truth to shock us with the intent to divide us, side-track &
Keep us busy fighting amongst ourselves, while they continue unstoppably their
Atrocities. In fact they laughing victoriously boasting of their vile crimes. They practically turned the internet useless, keeping us busy fighting on it instead of
Taking to actions to bring those bastards down & stop their illegal crimes against
Humanity.
So in other words, think twice, when you read stuff that infuriates you, it is in-
Tended to do so, why be a easy tool for them. Start united actions, Open forums for
Brainstorming together, humanity can survive this with flying colors if we start
Using our brains. Their next agenda is of course to starve us, threatening food
Rations. It’s about time we teach our kids to grow seeds, FRUIT trees all over,
Feed chickens instead of dogs & cats, community gardens, local cooperation.
That way our kids will not be so desperate to have to enroll into illegal wars

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Navy boot camp?
Posted by: JohnTodd on May 10, 2008 6:15 PM   
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I went to Great Mistakes (Navy) in Jan of '99. I never saw any food wasted. I worked the kitchen during my time and saw only efficiency.

Granted, it wasn't the best food, but it was adequate and it all tastes great when you are extremely hungry from all the stress and exercise.

I never saw any "Pass and review" at all, in fact, I heard several RDCs lambasting recruits for not finishing their meals. Couldn't FORCE them to eat, but could still yell abut it.

As for FORCING all soldiers to be meet-eaters, I disagree. I've been in 2 branches of the military (USN and now USA!) and have noticed that salad bars and fruit bars and also entrees and side dishes loaded with vegetables from raw to cooked are always available. I am a meat eater, but I could do just fine on everything else if no meat was available in the Dining Facility.

Keep in mind that soldiers train all the time: exercise, sweating in the field, etc. They will eat more because their bodies demand more calories. That's why the pound cake has 2000 calories in the MRE.

Just my .02

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