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ForeignPolicy

Colombia to Chavez: See You in the Hague

By Eric Wingerter, AlterNet. Posted March 13, 2008.


Alvaro Uribe threatened to haul Hugo Chavez before the ICC, but he'd better come ready with his own defense.
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Last week, amidst a tense standoff in the Andes, Colombian President Alvaro Uribe hastily called together a press conference and made an audacious claim. The Colombians had turned up evidence, he said, that the Venezuelan government was funneling hundreds of millions of dollars to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, the FARC. The announcement was a bombshell. The FARC is designated as a terrorist organization, so evidence of financial support from a foreign government would have serious repercussions.

Uribe even took it a step further, pledging before his countrymen on national television that he would bring Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez before the International Criminal Court on charges -- not of violence, not even of terrorism, but of genocide. Like in Rwanda, only … not. It was high theater, albeit theater of the deranged, but then a funny thing happened. People started to look at the documents he was referring to, and they didn't seem to say what he said they said.

The evidence, such as it was, came from a laptop computer that had apparently survived a bombing campaign that left 22 rebels dead days earlier. Investigators like Greg Palast translated and posted them, dismissing the Colombians' interpretations of their contents. Even the U.S. government -- Colombia's No. 1, and sometimes only, ally in the region -- expressed "extreme skepticism" over at least one aspect of the charges, the notion that the FARC were attempting to create a dirty bomb. By the end of the week, Uribe had backed off his statements about Venezuela and the ICC. Nobody would be going to The Hague.

All of this is a shame because it would be sort of neat to see Uribe stand before the ICC. I wonder what it would make of his government, with its lethal campaign against trade unionists, those mass graves that keep turning up or, yes, its state support of terrorism. Because unlike the allegations he's thrown around, President Uribe's terror links don't just stem from cryptic messages left on miraculous jungle laptops. In fact, they're astonishingly well-documented.

Back in the early '90s, then Sen. Uribe was already well-known to U.S. intelligence officials. A now-declassified 1991 report from the Defense Intelligence Agency listed Uribe among "important Colombian narco-traffickers," noting that he was "a close personal friend of Pablo Escobar" and "dedicated to collaborating with the Medellin [drug] cartel at high government levels."

If they only knew! Today, of course, Uribe runs the show, and his organized crime connections no longer simply "collaborate" with the highest levels of government -- they sit in Colombia's most powerful posts. Consider:

  • Just last year, Uribe's foreign minister was forced to resign after her brother, a senator, was jailed for colluding with right-wing paramilitary groups in a series of murders and kidnappings. Like the FARC, Colombia's paramilitaries are designated as a terrorist organization by the United States and Europe.

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Eric Wingerter is a freelance writer living in Washington, D.C. His blog, www.BoRev.net covers Venezuela and U.S. media coverage of Latin America.



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Corrupt latin american politicians
Posted by: Swedish liberal on Mar 13, 2008 1:35 AM   
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Latin America like the Middle East are to me lost continents. Corruption, inequality and lack of freedom and economic development.

It does not matter if they are right or left, Chavez or Uribe.

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» RE: Corrupt latin american politicians Posted by: saltoafronteira
» Blame the Loser Posted by: talkville
Get it straight: Uribe is a democrat, Chavez is a dictator, FARC are terrorist
Posted by: ejeder on Mar 13, 2008 1:38 AM   
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After the recent crisis, president Uribe has the support of 84% of Colombians. Chavez is polling under 50% of Venezuelans.

Under Uribe, democracy has flourished in Colombia: for the first time leftists have been elected to mayor of Bogota (the country´s second most important post), to governorships like the Cauca Valley, and hundreds of other national, departmental and municipal posts. There have been no massacres of leftist politicians like during the 80s when Union Patriotica was massacred.

Chavez, on the other hand, wants to destroy democracy, much like his nemesis George Bush. Chavez tried to push through a constitution that would give the executive almost absolute power, end all kinds of personal and civil liberties (like freedom of speech), and permit him his stated goal to rule until 2021.

You say Uribe is a drug trafficker, but since Chavez came into power almost all cocaine is leaving South America through Venezuela.

Besides, the whole war on drugs is a hoax perpetrated on Latin American (and the world) by the U.S.A. empire. So who cares who is dealing or consuming a drug that is much less deadly than good ol' American tobbacky?

You say Uribe had links to the paramilitaries back in the 80s. You're probably right. But guess what? Colombia has been at war for 40 years! You think the African National Congress didnt plant bombs? You think George Washington didnt ambush and kill Brits? Daniel Ortega and Fidel Castro, both of whom you probably support blindly, came into power throught violence.

Peace is made between two warring factions, and in Colombia, everyone has to choose a side. So Uribe came from side A instead of side B? Big deal! That doesnt mean that he can not lead the country to peace.

Why dont you write balanced articles and denounce the human rights violations of the FARC? They are much greater than Uribe's you can be sure of that! And yes, the paramilitaries are bloodthirsty criminals too, but at least they have demobilized. Why wont the FARC do the same? Even the ELN is doing it.

By the way, do you think the FARC aren't terrorists? Do you think Chavez and Correa would be justified in giving them haven? Do you think they should be given official belligerent status, as Chavez keeps insisting? Well then I ask that you go to Colombia and speak to the Colombians that have lived for 40 years with that scourge and see if they think like you. Didn't you see the protests in february? We are sick of the FARC and we dont want a communist dictatorship in our country!!!

One last thing. If Uribe is so evil and his actions on the Ecuadorean border are so despicable, why did all the presidents of latin america at the Rio Group meeting not denounce him and isolate Colombia? The eyes of the world were on president Uribe, who you call a terrorist. Why were Chavez and his cronies so quick to make peace with him?

I'll tell you why. Because he knows the evidences of his support for the FARC are real, and if the international community really gets a chance to verify them then the world will have no choice than to follow international law and put sanctions on Chavez and Correa for harbouring terrorists.

You can be sure that Tirofijo is in Venezuela right now, and that Chavez supports the FARC politically and financially.

Wake up and take the well being of Colombians into account when you write about Colombia!

And take into account the civil liberties of Venezuelans when you promote a lying dictator like Chavez!

We want peace and democracy, not war and dictatorship.

NO MAS FARC!
No more FARC
No more child soldiers
No more landmines
No more bombs
No more massacres
No more kidnappings
No more dictators (like Chavez)

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» No mas FARC, hear hear!!! Posted by: Swedish liberal
» RE: No mas FARC, hear hear!!! Posted by: mkdelta69
Columbia rehash
Posted by: Dougthecruiser on Mar 13, 2008 4:49 AM   
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There is nothing new reported here! There seems to be a consistent bias in Alternet in support of Hugo and his puppet regimes. The FARC is a vile collection of narcotraficantes and kidnappers without a single redeeming social or moral value. To support such a group is a statement of hypocrisy in my opinion. As the commentator above notes succinctly, Hugo Chàvez is the biggest threat to the peace of S Am if not the western hemisphere. I say that advisedly as all the US politicians including George Bush are either ignoring or hostile to South America (LOL). Let's have some carefully critical coverage of Venezuela, Columbia and the democratic left point of view!

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» Excuse me... Posted by: WhuThe?!?
Did you read the article?
Posted by: TinkerKenny on Mar 13, 2008 6:27 AM   
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Nothing in Wingerter's piece is a defense of the FARC. If you read it his point is that any links between Chavez and the FARC pale in comparison to the documented links between Uribe and Colombia's brutal paramilitaries, which are ALSO listed as terrorists under international law.

I knew it was bad in Colombia but this is just unbelievable. Can you imagine of Bush's cabinet members were individually linked to mass graves? In the U.S., I mean...

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Creative writing strikes again
Posted by: Don G on Mar 13, 2008 6:57 AM   
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The first major distortion was that the U.S. was skeptical about the FARC intending to build a dirty bomb. Here's the real story; In January, Raul Reyes traveled to Romania, with a VENEZUELAN passport(no connection between FARC and Chavez?). He sought out a notorious clandestine arms dealer to buy 50 kilos of nuclear material. That dealer had to go underground shortly after the meeting, and it is believed nothing was delivered, though they had agreed on a price. Raul returned to Caracas and then Colombia. Source, INTERPOL. The Colombian government believed he wanted to make a dirty bomb for use in Colombia or elsewhere. Washington was skeptical, yes. Their opinion was that they intended to resell the nuclear material to a third party for a profit.

The rest of the article is the same. If more of you readers here spoke Spanish, you could read the Latin American Newspapers instead of relying on propagandists and fantasy.

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Uribe is all but a Democrat
Posted by: Ibn Saleh on Mar 13, 2008 8:21 AM   
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I wish there was a way to have people read an article before posting a comment. This article is far from creative writing and propaganda. The author's statements are backed up by steady sources.

There are many things you can say Uribe is but "democrat" is certainly not one. Muzzling and disregarding a considerable part of your own countrymen is pure dictatorship.
In this case, a blank check to a corrupt regime supported by US taxpayers' money with no oversight, all in the name of a phony war against narco-trafficking.

Any wise statesman would know that the FARC are a force to be reckoned with. That's what people like Chavez and Correa are attempting to do. It's not necessarily a support to the FARC per se but an understanding of Realpolitik. If war was the solution, the Colombian problem would have already been solved for the decades the conflict has lasted.

Uribe's violation of Ecuador's sovereignty coupled with unsubstantiated threats to Chavez are nothing but a diversion tactics that only fool Bush and Uribe himself.

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Colombian govt should be investigated as a supporter of terror
Posted by: RonnieJ. on Mar 13, 2008 8:31 AM   
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Eric makes a very strong argument here, backed up by documentation - unlike most of the allegations against Venezuela we constantly see in the U.S. media.

Considering the well documented support by Uribe and his cronies for the AUC and other organizations considering to be terrorist groups by the U.S. government, the hypocrisy of the Bush administration's "war on terror" couldn't be more blatant. Where are the members of Congress calling for Colombia to be added to list of countries supporting terror? Why don't we read more about this in the U.S. press? Why should the media - or anyone - believe what Colombia says about connections between Venezuela and the FARC? (OK, these are rhetorical questions).

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History is needed here
Posted by: oburlingame on Mar 13, 2008 9:53 AM   
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Stating well documented facts should be applauded, not denigrated, even when they don't lend support to one's particular point of view. Wingerter nicely lays out factual evidence and turns the tables on what has been widely paraded around as the truth. Another interesting factoid is that Venezuela shares one of the largest borders in the hemisphere with Colombia, and as such has received tens of thousands of refugees fleeing that nation's violence. This may be one reason why Chavez is helping forge peace in Colombia.

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Right-wing Tilt on the Internet
Posted by: ceti on Mar 13, 2008 2:30 PM   
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There are plenty of fascist-minded members of the oligarchy and wealthiest (and whitest) upper crust of Latin American societies that blog and comment in cyberspace. Unfortunately, the balance tilts towards them, as the internet and facility with English is still the domain of the elites.

That's why you can have comments up here like that, as they are ready to pounce on any article about Colombia or Venezuela to spread their propaganda.

Fortunately, they are losing their grip on societies up and down Latin America after running down and plundering their countries for the benefit of their Miami-based caste.

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Terrorism
Posted by: mike_burns on Mar 13, 2008 4:32 PM   
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The good old U.S.A., for a hundred years, has been financing terrorism on the people south of the Rio Grand. Uribe is a right wing terrorist, just like Sumosa. We force our will through dictators, like Pinache. Ah my friends, the list grows long, especially around the world. Just like Iraq, we are creating terrorism. Just like Uganda, you can steal the resources if there is a dictator to bribe. If there isn't one to bribe, destablise the region. We want chaos in the Andes. The drug war is one of many means to accomplish our leader's goals. Venezuelan oil is as one of the goals. All our mainstream press knows is what they are fed from our conspiring government. When it comes to terrorism, we need to look in the mirror.
Apples $1.39 per pound. U.S.A. Grown.
Bananas $.59 per pound. Grown Elsewhere.
Just open your eyes and look for a change.
I don't approve of the FARK, but there will always be these groups there as long as we use forced control.
The time has came upon us. It is time for us to become friends with, and of the world. If we don't, we will be just digging our own graves.

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A great example of Eric Wingerter distorting the truth:
Posted by: ejeder on Mar 13, 2008 5:59 PM   
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They also surveilled the homes of opposition politicians, and in last fall's elections, a whopping 30 major candidates turned up dead.

Eric makes it sound like the 30 candidates were killed by the government. In fact, the article states that they were killed by the FARC and the paramilitaries.

He also forgot to mention that the article's main message is that Colombia's left had a great victory in those elections. Does the opposition win electoral victories in fascist regimes or in vibrant democracies?

"'It was a mature, independent electorate that showed that it cannot be manipulated by editorials, or by the comments of columnists, an electorate that reacted well to Samuel's proposal,' Colombian opposition leader Carlos Gaviria said Monday."

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Chavez censorship? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Posted by: Bina on Mar 13, 2008 9:01 PM   
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You may want to look closer at that RCTV thing. It was a licence non-renewal, NOT censorship. And much of it was based on offences that happened BEFORE Chavez even came to power. Explain THAT bit of dictatorship to me, genius.

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"Troll" in Spanish is...
Posted by: Bina on Mar 13, 2008 9:05 PM   
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"Payaso" (clown) will do fine.

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DOESN'T IT BOTHER ANYONE THAT......
Posted by: ALANHESTER on Mar 13, 2008 9:18 PM   
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Bush wants to give money and free access to another drug dealer and mass murderer (Uribe)?

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Colombia
Posted by: Bosquésillo on Mar 14, 2008 12:28 AM   
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What are you people talking about? It was a well written and documented article.

Let's see ... what is Colombia known for?

1. Cocaine
2. Heroin
3. Mass poverty
4. Kidnapping
5. Drug Cartels
6. Paramilitaries (all flavors)
7. Reporters in exile
8. Corrupt politicians
9. Mass graves
10. Dead union members


Did I mention Cocaine the GNP? Ah, yes, the city of Medellin built to modernity with the money from coca sales, just like Cali and Miami.

A wart on the world being in no position to call another country ill. 30 yrs pass and all is the same.

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» RE: Colombia Posted by: ejeder
» RE: Colombia Posted by: drjasonmd
» RE: Colombia Posted by: ejeder
Research and Follow-up
Posted by: Bosquésillo on Mar 14, 2008 12:35 AM   
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I think what the writer ought to do is trace the history of cocaine back to the start of the Medellin Cartel to its ties with the US, Miami's big Drug war, the funding of Central American 'conflicts', and Noriega.

Funny how all those things happened during the same time frame, eh? ... all tied together by one country.

The ultimate destruction of Latin America.

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Operation Condor
Posted by: herbal on Mar 14, 2008 3:40 AM   
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Colombia now is the residual of Henry Kissinger's Operation Condor. Christopher Hitchens book, The Trial of Henry Kissinger, provides a little information about this infamous time for US foreign policy. (when was it anything different?) Robert Parry's Consortium for Independent Journalism does a much better job of investigative reporting about Kissinger, Reagan, Bush Sr., Nazi Klaus Barbie (later executed by Israel Mosad), Pinochet, et al. in a sordid story that includes the infamous School of the Americas. This era was the birth place of Uribe.

I am 62 and I am tired of crying about our lost republic; it has been so many decades of deceit.

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Pinching The Pot
Posted by: rgoalierob on Mar 14, 2008 11:51 AM   
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Anyone who supports Colombia's current regime is either a failed Narcotraficante or a Fascist.
Colombia has only become more violent and corrupt as Venezuela has become more Democratic.( Notice how Chavez ACCEPTED his term limit election?)
Any cocaine trafficking by the FARC is to provide decent paying jobs for the people in the countryside, something Colombia's current regime doesn't seem to be bothered with.

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The whiff of Brut and PNAC
Posted by: talkville on Mar 16, 2008 6:09 AM   
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As in the Middle East, the agenda is on in Latin America -- Regionalize the Conflict, create confusions, chaos and plausibly deniable causation and accountability. The tactics and strategies have become boring, banal and "2nd nature" (i.e. Habit). Since the Expansion Westward (the Internal Colonialism), the Object has remained the same; only the Style might differ.

We always Forget: Federalism is just a smoke word for Imperialism -- it develops Hegelian like in contradictions and it has but one aim: Empire. Set the smaller Units beside each other and against each other and then swallow them up into the larger Corporate State, based in Washington D.C.

By now, 200+ years later, its predictable and not exactly pleasantly amusing. The marvel is that those who are enslaved and die and are tortured are always safely Elsewhere, out of sight and out of mind.

The rise of Chavez and the Bolivarian movements pretty much set the dynamic in motion.

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get to know the facts on URIBE
Posted by: Venezolana on Mar 19, 2008 4:03 PM   
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U.S. INTELLIGENCE LISTED COLOMBIAN PRESIDENT URIBE AMONG "IMPORTANT COLOMBIAN NARCO-TRAFFICKERS" IN 1991.

Washington, D.C., 1 August 2004 - Then-Senator and now President Álvaro Uribe Vélez of Colombia was a "close personal friend of Pablo Escobar" who was "dedicated to collaboration with the Medellín [drug] cartel at high government levels," according to a 1991 intelligence report from U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) officials in Colombia. The document was posted today on the website of the National Security Archive, a non-governmental research group based at George Washington University.

Uribe's inclusion on the list raises new questions about allegations that surfaced during Colombia's 2002 presidential campaign. Candidate Uribe bristled and abruptly terminated an interview in March 2002 when asked by Newsweek reporter Joseph Contreras about his alleged ties to Escobar and his associations with others involved in the drug trade. Uribe accused Contreras of trying to smear his reputation, saying that, "as a politician, I have been honorable and accountable."

The newly-declassified report, dated 23 September 1991, is a numbered list of "the more important Colombian narco-traffickers contracted by the Colombian narcotic cartels for security, transportation, distribution, collection and enforcement of narcotics operations." The document was released by DIA in May 2004 in response to a Freedom of Information Act request submitted by the Archive in August 2000.

more: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB131/index.htm

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