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ForeignPolicy

How America Can Be a Superpower the World Respects

By Jason Marsh, Greater Good. Posted February 13, 2008.


Seven principles that could offer a new model of American power -- one that inspires and mobilizes other nations to work with us.
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An interview with foreign policy expert Anne-Marie Slaughter by Jason Marsh.

"World's only superpower" -- that's the title bestowed on the United States for the last two decades. It has a nice ring to it, but what does it mean today?

"Measured by economic statistics and military might, our power is greater than ever," writes foreign policy expert Anne-Marie Slaughter in her recent book, The Idea That Is America. "But measured by the commonsense measure of whether we can get others to do what we want them to do, we have clearly lost ground since the Cold War."

For years, foreign policy experts like Slaughter, dean of Princeton University's eminent Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, have warned that our unrivaled wealth and military power are not enough to tackle the kinds of problems we face today, from terrorism to climate change to the widening gaps between rich and poor around the world.

"These are issues that require the cooperation of, if not all 191 nations, then a good many of them," Slaughter said. "And for that, you have to be able to mobilize people; you have to be able to inspire them. That means we have to have a set of ideas that will be deeply attractive to other countries and will convince other countries that we are actually pulling together to fight a common threat."

In The Idea That Is America, Slaughter identifies seven key principles -- liberty, democracy, equality, justice, tolerance, humility, and faith -- that she sees as central to America's identity. She describes how a U.S. foreign policy grounded in these principles could offer a new model of American power, one that inspires and mobilizes other nations to work with us.

The Idea That Is America has been endorsed by distinguished figures ranging from former Reagan secretary of state George Shultz to former Clinton secretary of state Madeline Albright (who called the book "brilliant ... deeply moving, exquisitely timed, authored by one of our country's leading scholars"). Slaughter herself has been mentioned as a possible secretary of state should the Democrats win the White House.

Slaughter recently spoke with me during a brief trip back to the U.S. from China, where she's on sabbatical for the year.

Jason Marsh: If you were advising the next American president, how would you recommend he or she act to restore America's moral and political standing in the world?

Anne-Marie Slaughter: I would start with humility. In my view, we need to start by acknowledging that we have made some real errors -- that we were badly frightened after 9/11, and we overreacted in many ways. We're not alone as a nation in doing that; many nations respond that way. But we have to own up to that. We have to take responsibility for our actions and acknowledge our errors, and acknowledge that in many cases we actually should have been listening to other countries. That kind of humility is needed to give us enough room to start to do some very positive things.

There are four concrete things we need to do right away. The first is to close Guantanamo and declare that we will not engage in torture or cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment. We must go back to the standards that we have always set and we continue to set for our military. We must embrace them across the board.

Second, we must withdraw our troops from Iraq in a way that leaves Iraq as stable as possible, while building regional institutions at the same time. It cannot be just a unilateral withdrawal. Rather it must be a declared policy of, "We are now withdrawing our troops and working to make that a safe and stable withdrawal," rather than figuring out how to stay in.

Third, we need to work on leading a serious global effort to combat climate change. Our current nonchalant posture is probably the most important global symbol of how the United States effectively doesn't care that the decisions we make affect others. You can't be a leader if you're that irresponsible. We're going to have to ask other countries to make sacrifices, too, so we're going to have to start. And the fourth is to be really serious about nuclear nonproliferation, which means living up to our part of the bargain. It means cutting our nuclear weapons. In my view it means declaring that our ultimate aim is to go to zero, although it could take decades to get there.


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Sorry guys, bit late.
Posted by: begruntleed on Feb 13, 2008 12:55 AM   
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When I was growing up as a kid in one of your satellite states, America had real soft power. The idea that you made mistakes, but were well-intentioned and admirable as a nation, was common wisdom.

I am sorry to tell you, but thats just gone now. Everyone either hates you, or has contempt for you, or fears ( rapidly diminishing ) your military. No-one likes or respects you, and thats not something you will ever get back.

Learn to live with it.

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At first
Posted by: Dboy on Feb 13, 2008 1:05 AM   
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Anne-Marie Slaughter sits on the board of the Council on Foreign Relations.

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How American Can Stop Being a Superpower
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Feb 13, 2008 1:09 AM   
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Or, how the U.S. can relinquish the global empire voluntarily and regain its status as a democratic republic while it still can - a seven-step program:

1) Close most foreign military bases and return troops to U.S. soil.

2) Abolish the IMF and the WTO and all the "free-trade agreements".

3) Forget about controlling Mideast and African and Central Asian petroleum.

4) Focus on reinvesting in U.S. manufacturing and infrastructure, especially in renewable energy areas.

5) Start using diplomacy instead of military force in international relations.

6) Clear up and normalize the entangling relationships with Israel and Saudi Arabia.

7) Legalize, tax and regulate drugs.

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Feb 13, 2008 1:37 AM   
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Most Americans would rather go back to simply being a nation that other countries admire.

Direct Democracy

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» But first Posted by: Ellie1
"None shall pass."
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Feb 13, 2008 3:29 AM   
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We're an empire in decline. We're bitter, insecure, and in denial. Voluntary humility is out of the question. The only time we'll stop abusing our power is when we no longer have it.

If you've seen "Monty Python...Holy Grail", (as I have several thousand times) think of the US as the Black Knight:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno

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» 'it's only a flesh wound' Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» Nice one, Kepstein! Posted by: Cathyc
» RE: Holy Posted by: Dboy
We need to stop the fifth column
Posted by: PaulK on Feb 13, 2008 3:34 AM   
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I believe the reports that the Mossad was tracking the 9/11 hijackers in the U.S. before they acted. I certainly believe that the "WMDs in Iraq" argument was manufactured out of whole cloth, and that the recent Iranian small boat provocation audio was a pretty bad forgery. Finally, I believe that Reagan was dealing with the Ayatollah Khomeini to keep the hostages captive until he took office. I'm bothered by reports that certain CIA agents were identified as at the assassination of Bobby Kennedy.

We need to stop having a neocon fifth column that shoots America in the back. We need firewalls against this sort of behavior.

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» RE: Direct Democracy like the UN Posted by: nightgaunt
A Pretentious wish
Posted by: Pau on Feb 13, 2008 4:31 AM   
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What a pretentious silly, nasty, horrible, imperialistic, undemocratic wish. A superpower that can make other nations do what it wishes!. Without respect for their wishes, their customs, etc.
That is what took you were you are. You have even sacrificed your principles, freedoms and happiness! That is, the people's freedoms and happiness; the "establishment" has always been, tricky, amoral and acreage hungry.

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Sorry guys, way late
Posted by: Dianka on Feb 13, 2008 5:03 AM   
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Our abusive foreign policy isn't the only issue. Internationally, many nations are appalled at how we treat our own, and the last thing they want to do is "be like America". They would not tolerate our gulag-like prisons system, which is now little more than semi-slave labor. They are shocked by our primitive health care system. Perhaps most of all, the are appalled by the human rights abuses that are central to our collective treatment of the poor via a system we proudly call "welfare reform" (which directly violates the Universal Declaration of Human Rights---something that has not bothered even our more progressive souls). Whether talking about America's serial wars,arrogant refusal to work diplomatically with ANY other nation, whether talking about Gitmo or any state prison, the world rejects these "values".
Thanks to the social policies that continue to be ignored, the US now has the second highest level of infant mortality, and the life expectancy of our poor is slipping below the age of 60.

And so on. The most defining factor, however, is the fact that we either just don't get it, or just won't do anything about it.

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» RE: Oh Gloom and Doom, Posted by: donl51
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How about getting rid of Nukes?
Posted by: leemiller38 on Feb 13, 2008 6:43 AM   
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One thing we could do for ourselves and the world is get rid of nuclear weapons which at this moment are still on hair-trigger status. This would be a great step to show we are not interested in domination and that of course is why we won't likely do this, because we are the dominator who is ripping off the world's resources for a consumer culture. For the sake of the planet, we also need to create a sustainable economy rather than one based on infinite growth that is destined to implode and cause widespread misery.

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7 Principles?
Posted by: sunlakedude on Feb 13, 2008 6:57 AM   
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Unless I missed something I can only count 4 principles that were listed. Where are the other 3?

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Hear,Hear to Marie
Posted by: GPFrank on Feb 13, 2008 7:25 AM   
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Remembering the late William Fulbright: whose essential idea was that because we are powerful
does not mean we have all of the power there is

Then the idea of Wilson that promoting democracy
was the best way of defending the U.S. It worked
with the occupation of Germany and with the occupation of Japan. The why not Iraq? Because
Japan and Germany attacked us and there was a logic to the outcome which is missing in the case of Iraq. Iraq never attacked us and never was a military threat. The only logic was that
pushed by the Neo_Cons which was derived from
Leninism and a twisted form of Platonism.

I believe Hubris is related to addiction, if you ever converse with an alcoholic who is not recovering. I see the parallel between reaching for a drink whenever called upon to think and
reaching for a military solution whenever thinking about national security. Putting any religious dogma aside, it is historically true
that "There is always a higher power" which,
as they say at "Alcoholics Anonymous" that before treatment the higher power is the addiction.

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dipconsult
Posted by: dipconsult on Feb 13, 2008 7:50 AM   
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Anne-Marie Slaughter is really endorsing Barack Obama - the only candidate to give a detailed realistic foreign policy statement - see Foreign Affairs for July August 2007.

Although the American election razmataz is in full swing and we have to put up with a lot of personality nonsense, this candidate does have carefully considered policies. We Europeans are praying for his victory. America MUST return to cooperation after the disastrous G W Bush years of confrontation and refusal of dialogue.

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» RE: dipconsult Posted by: g50
» RE: dipconsult Posted by: VZEQICVA
Agreed: Too Late!
Posted by: shinseiji on Feb 13, 2008 8:19 AM   
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Two areas that this liberal perspective on restoring US hegemony glosses over:

1) The extent of the economic decline of the US. We are now merely on the cusp of a deeper "devaluation of America" in the world market. Much like the overinflated value of real estate and the securities based on these "values" peddled by Wall Street to the rest of the world, it is certain that the standard measure of US economic power - GDP as a percentage of world GDP - is grossly overinflated. At the heart of the economic problem has been the effective gutting of US manufacturing export capacity and - in the case of autos - even the capacity to compete on its home turf. Analysts such as Peter Schiff of Euro-Pacific have it right: the US is the burdensome caboose of the world economy, a net drag on the world's capacity to expand economically. Immediately at stake now is Wall Street's leadership of global finance as the next shoe to fall, as US rates plunge once again. The immediate risk now is a growing US dollar inflation as a way out of the crisis.

2)The hugely overwrought US military apparatus strewn about the world - for "some" reason. The liberal analysis completely fails to address this burdensome Cold War relic, this shining example of US obsolescence. It only real raison d'etait is as a self-perpetuating global corporate enterprise much like McDonalds', only that it directly saps the economic vitality of the US through its privileged access to Federal revenues. Its relation to US economic decline and financial crisis goes almost completely unnoted in the mainstream.

Military giganticism and economic debauchery are the twin pillars of the Reagan legacy further perpetuated under Clinton: Liberal incapacity to question the legacy of the great Ronald Reagan

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It is never too late
Posted by: saltoafronteira on Feb 13, 2008 8:34 AM   
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In the last weeks/months my comments where full of wrath against america, and despair for the world's future. However, wrath and despair will not resolve the enormous issues facing all the world and our survival.
The fact is balance of power needs to be re-established.
A new block is forming against the west, pushed essencially by Russia and China.
The new southern powers, China, Brasil, India and so on, are emerging.
South america, as a whole, is emerging as an independent block itself.
That is not a bad thing it itself.
But the Bloody proto-fascist Bush effect has unbalanced everything.
And balance must be re established.
In order to make things work, and re establish some terms of calm in the world, so we all can face, the sooner the better, the real life or death battle, the environmental one, the Japan-Anglo/American-European block must once and for all abandon its neo-liberal piracy posture.
No one with a clear view of things wants USA to become a declining rogue state, full of nuclear power and nearing bankrupcy. But if it continues in the path it is now, that's the dead end in wich will soon fall.
So, I hope that your criminal president in office may be kept by doing his last criminal moves before leaving it, and may the next one restore some reasoning, in order to slow down the new armaments tension and avoid america's economical crush that, in the end, will be bad for everyone.
And, by the way, have no doubt. If you attack Iran, Russia and China will involve and, then, may God save us all.

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» RE: It is never too soon Posted by: redbridge
The Idea That is Crap
Posted by: anarchofuzz on Feb 13, 2008 10:21 AM   
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Why does any one nation need to be all powerfull. Who gave us permission to "rule the world" and why does anybody need to. Talking about having your cake and eating it to, spirit forbid that this person gets a position of power in government. Yes be humble, yes fix the enviroment, yes leave Iraq (and everywhere else), yes do away with nuclear weopons (and energy as well) but then as she is asserting, its full speed ahead with capitalism. Hence nothing realy changes. The global south will still be poor and we in the west will be getting poorer while the capitalists continue to consolidate there wealth and power. No thank you. True liberty, true freedom and true democracy will never be possible as long as capitalism exists and people value money and material wealth over what it is to trully be human. Anarchy, wiki it.

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» Anarchy Posted by: Cathyc
» RE: Anarchy is not chaos Posted by: nightgaunt
» RE: Anarchy Posted by: left_libertarian
Two more things we have to do...
Posted by: Crazy H on Feb 13, 2008 10:55 AM   
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.

1) Prosecute the war criminals, starting with the jackhole in chief. There's no way that the rest of the world will believe we're serious if we let these sub-humans go free.

.

2) Collectively realize that 'super-power' does not mean 'unlimited power' - we're only 5% of the world's population, folks. Even if we've got the biggest guns and the most money, we're still outnumbered 19 to 1.

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End our Cuba obsession
Posted by: John McAuliff on Feb 13, 2008 11:23 AM   
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The easiest step the US can take to demonstrate that it is seriously reforming its arrogant approach to the world is to end our unilateral embargo of Cuba and normalize relations.

The latest UN vote against our policy was 184 to 4. Two-thirds of Americans want normalization of relations.

Barack Obama at least will end all restrictions on family travel and remittances and will negotiate with Raul Castro without predonditions.

Hillary Clinton is Bush light, turning away from even Bill Clinton's modest openings on familiy and non-tourist travel.

See Fareed Zakaria in Newsweek
http://candidatecubawatch.blogspot.com/

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Reinforcing the Mythology
Posted by: bigbad on Feb 13, 2008 11:44 AM   
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This article is a great myth-reinforcing exercise. It's blatantly obvious from the title of Slaughter's book, "The Idea That Is America". There is no discussion of the actual America, only the comforting, self-congratulatory mythology of "liberty, democracy, equality, justice, tolerance, humility, and faith".

Only the self-deluded and the somnambulant will think these characteristics apply to the actual, real-life America.

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What's so super
Posted by: willymack on Feb 13, 2008 12:22 PM   
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About the US, anyway. We started off by murdering the indigenous population, an act cheered on by no less a personage than Thomas Jefferson. We continued by gobbling up the land from coast to coast, and bought off or smashed anyone (Spain, France,and Mexico, for instance), who got in our way. We continued by involving ourselves in WWI when there was ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to do so, other than war profiteering. Not to be outdone with that, we set up Japan as a patsy by goading them into attacking us. We probably would've had to fight Germany, but NOT Japan. The reason? Money, of course. By now, you see the pattern. The same evil bastards who were there at the start are STILL going strong with their phony siren song of "patriotism", "national pride & honor", and our "glorious history and destiny". If we gave the world anything of value, it was an IDEA, the idea of equality under the law, and a fair deal for everyone. That idea and its implementation have been under constant attack by slick con artists, interested only in money and power and who are evil to the core.

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» RE: What's so super Posted by: Ellen Remore
Better yet
Posted by: anarchofuzz on Feb 13, 2008 1:26 PM   
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Wiki Anarchism

It would be better to get rid of government and capitalism all together. We would then be trully free to live as human beings and live in true communities. Communities that would work together so that each person can aspire to be who they trully were ment to be. This is not a utopian idea because it will take a lot of effort and working together to make it happen, it is possible.

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The Way to Real Respect: Taking Care of Your People, Social Democracy
Posted by: sofla100 on Feb 13, 2008 2:38 PM   
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It begins by ending the wars, bringing the troops home, and reducing immediately the spending on the military and "national security infrastructure," by at least 70%. Next, tax rates that are fair and take progressive amounts based on income should be implemented (based on Western European models and Sweden) Next, the end of "free trade." No more outsourcing or having goods manufactured overseas in slave labor camps like China. Next, universal medical care for all and a social support safety net. Do all these things, end the Empire, end the reliance on military might and bossing people around, start taking care of your own people, and then America will start to gain some real respect. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of thugs and rich criminals running things with the common people a bunch of suckers.

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More Status Quo Criminal Whitewash
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Feb 13, 2008 3:35 PM   
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A culture is sick or sane as the people it promotes as “experts” over the rest of us. Especially in light of global genocide the U.S. has inflicted in the name of a proven cover-up at 9/11 for false “war on terror” in the name of “peace”.

“In my view, we need to start by acknowledging that we have made some real errors -- that we were badly frightened after 9/11, and we overreacted in many ways… This has been a grievous learning [at being the world’s only “superpower”] curve. But I remain optimistic that we actually can come back.”

This is the constant theme of another CFR “expert” whitewash of what were clearly not “errors” of any kind but deliberate serial deception for criminal wars of aggression at Eurasia and the Mid East. Thus, there was no “learning curve” at calculated war invasions planned years before the cover-up at 9/11. And therefore the corporate criminal establishment “come back” trail is bogus as Slaughter’s nonsense about “our democracy” that is no longer a democracy at all.

It’s also interesting that “expert” Anne-Marie Slaughter has claimed a desire to “hold an influential position in government” and was formally criticized (over 100 students and faculty) for her management at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public & International Affairs at Princeton for being “supportive of the Bush administration” (Wikipedia)…

Also interesting that Greater Good magazine and Alternet would go to Slaughter for wisdom where evidence of it does not exist.

Expert?

I think not.

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And we'll all live happily ever after?
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Feb 13, 2008 5:05 PM   
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I do hate to rain on anyone's parade, but regarding the country's immediate future, Ms. Slaughter's vison sounds far less "optimistic" than pathologically delusional.

For quite some time, this country, (which was never exactly a model democracy to begin with), has been operating on the mechanics of Absolute Greed, which continues to corrupt absolutely. I.e., for far too long, far too many citizens have been making far too much money providing the tools to facilitate the post-WWII policy of global military imperialism.

She also states, "Unlike the British Empire or the Roman Empire. . . we are a country where when things go disastrously wrong, we have a system to kick that government out." Oh, really? As it happens, for the past two-plus years, I have belonged to a Bush-Cheney impeachment group that has bent over backwards trying to inform the public just how egregiously--perhaps irremediably--the Bush Boys have screwed up this country. And because most Americans only take notice when political skullduggery affects them personally, our efforts have met with precious little success.

Moreover, if Ms. Slaughter believes that Obama or Clinton will be any less autocratic than Bush, chances are she also maintains a belief in Santa Claus. For seven-plus years, we have allowed Bush to establish the perilous precedent of an omnipotent Executive. And given the seductive, addictive nature of power, his successors will be highly unlikely to settle for an Oval Office's enduring lese majeste by the pesky system of checks and balances set forth in a Constitution that has been shredded to confetti. Not when the office of president has acquired complete carte blanche with zero impunity.

According to Slaughter, ". . . we really have eroded so much of what I think does make us strong." Thanks ever so much for stating the bleedin' obvious. "All that made us strong" as a representative republic has long since been sacrificed on the altar of self-interest--by elected representatives who are far less accountable to the electorate than to the plutocrats who pick up the tab for their election. While our foreign policy continues to make the country simultaneously stronger and ever more loathsome by shoving our military might in the face of most of the planet.

"Liberty, democracy, equality, justice, tolerance, humility, and faith". . . all such Utopian qualities--that actually existed in my long-ago childhood--are now dead and buried in America (unless a scurrilously distorted version of Christianity qualifies as faith.) And, barring a Resurrection-caliber miracle, they will be revived on the same day the so-called Christians all get themselves Raptured.

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OH, WHO THE FUCK CARES.
Posted by: Longdream on Feb 13, 2008 7:02 PM   
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I just watched the Hillary video.

Then I came over here, but I can't stop laughing.

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» Maybe You'll Take Your Own low-rent Advice Posted by: Propaganda...Noise
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I disagree with Anne-Marie Slaughter.
Posted by: Barakis on Feb 13, 2008 9:49 PM   
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I do not agree with her on her views toward China. For example when she said this....

"I'm living in China this year, and the Chinese basically say, "We need you to be leading," at least for the next 20 years. After that, we'll see. So I think that's very important."

So lets make a 20 year plan to weaken our postion in the world so China can strengthen theirs?

The next major war will be over energy and the United State will not be fighting some 'terrorist's' in the sand for it. They will be fighting the country that needs more of it than we do.

I would like to point out something she said prior to her China Comment when she is talking about how to take a different direction in our foriegn policy.....

"No, actually moving more slowly and consulting more widely is far more likely to help you reach your objective." It will be slower, it may be moderated in different ways -- you're not going to get it exactly as you wanted -- but it will be legitimate, and it will last.


That last part, "and it will last."

Is that soo? I guess that is until 20 years down the road because then 'we'll see' what China says.


~Barakis

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this is in the box - you need to be thinking OUT of the box ..
Posted by: siamdave on Feb 14, 2008 1:08 AM   
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- reading that Madeline Albright endorsed the book was about as far as I needed to go - remember her? As Clinton's SecState, she said, of a half million dead children in Iraq directly due to the sanctions, that 'it's a high price - but worth it'.
The whole book is obviously in-the-box thinking, same old same old, but hoping for a better outcome (which is, of course, one definition of lack of touch with reality). What is really needed is a lot of people looking for something new, something out of the box - you can start here if you are serious about making things better - They're Building a Box - and You're In It - http://www.rudemacedon.ca/dlp/box/box-intro.html

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Same old fantasy
Posted by: fifthworld on Feb 14, 2008 8:05 AM   
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of being the best - regardless the friendly guise of being a "leader" or inspiration. Our "pride" is the scourge of the planet, inducing complacency, myopic ignorance, and self-obsession, like the driver stuck in her/his rear view mirror when the light turns green.

Why don't we just let someone else take the lead for a change? Or forget that - learn to see ourselves as one world, which we will, or we'll die off. Prolly happen anyway, no thanks to American consumption and greed.

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» RE: what? Posted by: Dboy
Step #1
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Feb 14, 2008 12:58 PM   
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