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ForeignPolicy

Whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg: Bush Likely to Attack Iran, Impeachment a Must

By Sari Gelzer, TruthOut.org. Posted February 7, 2008.


The American public and media have not picked up on the urgency surrounding a pending war with Iran.
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Daniel Ellsberg, perhaps the country's most famous whistleblower, fears that before the Bush administration leaves office, it will try to attack Iran.

Indeed, Ellsberg's argument gained merit as George W. Bush increased his rhetoric against Iran when he delivered his final State of the Union Address. Bush accused Iran of training militia extremists in Iraq and emphasized the United States will confront its enemies.

In a wide-ranging interview with Truthout, Ellsberg uses insight from his experience as a Pentagon analyst under the Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon administrations to discuss Bush's plans to begin a war with Iran, the role of the press to give whistleblowers exposure and how American democracy can be restored.

Due to Ellsberg's experience working within the government, I wanted his insight into how the Bush administration is attempting to begin a war with Iran.

When I highlighted his experience working for Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara in 1965 to draft a speech with the goal of rationalizing and gaining public support for the Vietnam War, Ellsberg gave a very long sigh.

"That was not my finest hour that I look back on. That was something that I am ashamed of," he tells me with a heavy heart.

Ellsberg wishes he had spoken out against the Vietnam War sooner. As a civilian working for the government, he says his oath was always to the Constitution, and he violated that oath until the day he decided to leak the Pentagon Papers in 1971 to reveal the war was unlawful.

Ellsberg now spends his time ardently encouraging and supporting whistleblowers to come forward when they see constitutional violations. He emphasizes the importance of documents as evidence and of timeliness so that lies are exposed before an actual war occurs.

Pending war with Iran or Gulf of Tonkin deja vu

The recent announcement in December by the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) revealed, counter to the president's claims, that Iran did not have an active nuclear program. This was unexpected, says Ellsberg.

The administration had said, weeks before this release, it had no intention of putting out NIE summaries, Ellsberg says. However, the information was released because, according to newspaper reports, there was a threat of leaks:

"As one news story put it, intelligence officials were lined up to go to jail if the administration did not release those findings," says Ellsberg, emphasizing his creed in the need to take risks for the sake of revealing truth.

"I wish I could say it made an attack on Iran zero, and it hasn't, but it has reduced it and confirms, in my opinion, the power of being willing to risk prosecution, willing to give up your career, your clearance, which these people would have done if they'd put that information out -- and the mere threat was enough to get it out in this case," emphasizes Ellsberg.

Ellsberg says Bush will simply find a different pretext from the nuclear program.

"After all, it was about a year ago that he really stopped pressing the nuclear program as the main reason to start attacking Iran and start talking about what they were doing against U.S. forces in Iraq," says Ellsberg, who claims people in the military have recently undercut this statement by saying there is no evidence of Iran's involvement against U.S. forces in Iraq.

Bush could also use an incident that is blamed on Iran as a means to begin a war with them.

Early this year, Ellsberg experienced deja vu when the White House and a complicit media portrayed an incident in the Strait of Hormuz that deeply paralleled the Tonkin Gulf incident of 1964.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident was an alleged attack by North Vietnamese ships upon American boats. As a result of this alleged aggression, Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which gave former President Johnson the permission to expand the Vietnam War.

The recent incident involving Iran alleged serious threats were being made to U.S. ships by Iranian speedboats. Within days of the events in the Straight of Hormuz, information revealed the details of the entire event had been fabricated. Ellsberg sees promise in the quickness of this revelation because, in contrast, it was only in 2005 and 2008 that the inaccuracies and deceptions of the Gulf of Tonkin incident were revealed by the declassification of National Security Administration reports.


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The more the better
Posted by: cordas on Feb 7, 2008 2:10 AM   
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We need this pressure to be kept on bush and the whitehouse to make sure than we don't end up in another war... At least this time I doubt that we (The Brits) will be jumping in as well... another rung off the ladder... if we can remove enough then this madness can be avoided!

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» RE: The more the better Posted by: Doubtom
» RE: The more the better..Doubtom Posted by: Captainmagic
Daddy Bush and Somalia
Posted by: reinaldok on Feb 7, 2008 3:27 AM   
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Have we all so conveniently forgotten, Papa Bush's lame duck incursion into Somalia? The marines landed in Somalia on December 9, 1992.
One month after the elections that sent back Bush I to his mansion in Maine. George HWB assured any listeners that the troops would be back home before Clinton's inauguration. IRAN - sure sounds familiar.

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» RE: Reagan armed Iran Posted by: Sushi
How to Get Impeachment Started
Posted by: aharlib on Feb 7, 2008 3:38 AM   
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Hooray! Alternet posts a major article by a major progressive figure on Impeachment that tells it like it is. Mr. Ellsberg left out the most important part - how DO we make Impeachment, the only real solution to the horrors of Bush and Cheney, happen?

Here's how!

Impeach Cheney and Bush NOW

Defense of the Constitution Knows No Party


The Bush administration has illegally seized and imprisoned Americans without benefit of their trial by jury, has spied on Americans without warrant in violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, has lied America into a disastrous war, and has betrayed an American intelligence officer, who was working on weapons of mass destruction networks, to our enemies (Valerie Plame.)

Impeachment hearings against Vice President Dick Cheney are now a distinct possibility, thanks to a recent outpouring of public support for impeachment by Americans across the political spectrum. Your calls and faxes to House Judiciary Committee members are needed to keep up the pressure.

Leave a message for your Congressman, to demand he obey his oath to "defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Act now to restore your rights and the rule of law bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers, which brave men have died defending throughout our history.

Call the House Judiciary Committee

202-225-3951
and demand that Impeachment hearings begin ASAP!





*What Happened to Make This All Possible?

On November 6, 2007, Rep. Dennis Kucinich brought H.Res.799, for the impeachment of Cheney, to the House Floor for debate. It was broadcast on CSPAN. A sudden outpouring of public support for impeachment forced lawmakers to keep the resolution alive. Democrats, most of whom currently resist demands for impeachment, were unwilling to kill the bill with the public watching. Republicans and some Democrats, mindful of impeachment sentiment, voted to debate the bill, but failed. At the end of the day, Americans of both parties had made it clear whose "table" this is, and that they want to see impeachment on it.



For more information go to
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» RE: Just don't get it, do you? Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Just don't get it, do you? Posted by: left_libertarian
» RE: Just don't get it.... Posted by: aharlib
a little late in the game for impeachment, so.....
Posted by: ellie on Feb 7, 2008 3:56 AM   
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how bout this, so far, we all know that every time something rediculous happens, we smell an administration rat and based on past incident attempts over the past 7+ years of stupid ideas, people are beginning to question everything coming out of Pennsylvania Ave...

we pay $$ to the UN, so how about an embargo muzzle against the US until this administration can learn to behave... know it will be tough, but it's better then 'freedom fries' and a run on yellow ribbon in stores...

this administration needs a kindergarten style time out, and if this idea works, we might trade off cheap imports and our meager exports for less then a year for almost a year of not having to hold on waiting for the next blunder that could cost us more kid's lives lost via military and civilian losses...

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How Long Will It Take?
Posted by: Tom Degan on Feb 7, 2008 4:04 AM   
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How much more proof do they need? What the hell is wrong with these stupid Democrats? I'll never forget the hope that so many people were feeling when the 110th Congress came to power a year ago. Who, then, could have forseen what a pandering, pathetic group of cowards they would have turned out to be?

This is frustrating and heartbreaking. Did you EVER believe, in your wildest dreams, that things would get as bad as this? Isn't it strange how, the more the right wing screams about John McCain's so-called lack of conservative credentials, the better he seems to do in the primaries? Has it ever occurred to these fools that maybe the people - even Republicans - are sick of conservatism? Apparantly not.

If the Bush Mob attacks or invades Iran without the congressionally mandated congressional approval, he should be impeached and removed from office at once. I say "should be". Don't hold your breath waiting for these stupid fucking Democrats to do the right thing.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

Tom Degan
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» Terrorist Posted by: HeKnew
» RE: How Long Will It Take? Posted by: wireup
» RE: How Long Will It Take? Posted by: left_libertarian
» RE: How Long Will It Take? Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Who, then, could have forseen..... Posted by: common intelligence
Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Feb 7, 2008 4:06 AM   
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Two reasons why Bush won't invade Iran.

1. Iran is the fresh, off-the-shelf fear generator.

2. Unlike Somalia, Granada, Kosovo, Panama, Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran actually has an army.

Government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Direct Democracy

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» RE: Terrorist Posted by: greenthumb
» RE: Terrorist Posted by: Zeugitai
» RE: Terrorist Posted by: Doubtom
It's TOO LATE For Impeachment Now
Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Feb 7, 2008 4:05 AM   
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With only 11 months left in office and with both the Democrats and the Republicans on Capitol Hill preoccupied with the election campaign, it's already too late to begin the impeachment process against Bush and Cheney.

It took a FULL YEAR for the Republicans to get the impeachment process rolling against Bill Clinton and it it took 18 MONTHS to get it it going against Richard Nixon. Even the very first presidential impeachment, against Andrew Johnson way back in 1867, took 14 months to run its course.

As much as it hurts to admit it, time has already run out on impeaching Bush and Cheney. Even if the process began right now, this very minute, Bush & Cheney's term will have expired by the time a Senate trial begins -- and that's assuming that Senate Republicans don't launch a filibuster to block it.

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» Terrorist Posted by: HeKnew
bush
Posted by: heide on Feb 7, 2008 5:11 AM   
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is a sick man

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» RE: bush Posted by: rinthy
» RE:sick and rich! Posted by: Sushi
Both Parties owned by power-elite
Posted by: ronheri on Feb 7, 2008 5:24 AM   
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The time has come to look past party affiliation; since they are essentially one and the same. Time has come for a third party, and total house cleaning on the hill. Congress's poll ratings are down to single digits for good reason. America;s standing in the world and our economy have fallen to all time lows. We are in serious trouble. The word Revolution comes to mind.

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It is my belief...
Posted by: douglashoyt on Feb 7, 2008 5:56 AM   
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without evidence, that the Bush administration is using the threat of criminal prosecution or public exposure of the Congress' personal lives to get them to refrain from investigations.

In other words, the Bush administration is black mailing Congress.

In his administrations long list of crimes, blackmail is small.

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» RE: It is my belief... Posted by: Lauren
» RE: It is my belief... Posted by: Turiye
Of course Bush will try to get into Iran, and he will do it soon.
Posted by: yale on Feb 7, 2008 6:19 AM   
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Iran has one of the worlds largest contents of underground crude. Bush and co. wants it bad. We are now going to pay the price for congress not acting when it should have. Whats next, a fabricated terror strike on our shores, so he can declare martial law? and then cancel the elections? Dont put it past him. He has been very predictable so far. Bush has proved to us all, his sick agenda will go forth regardless of what the Americans, or what the rest of the world thinks. Sounds like a dictatorship to me. We cant afford to be asleep at the wheel any longer.

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October surprise 2008
Posted by: kerttu on Feb 7, 2008 6:33 AM   
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This is only my guess:
In 2004 Bush gave his promise to McCain to do everything in his power to make McCain the new president in 2008.
The way things are now only extreme measures can make it happen.
A devastating bombing of Iran right at the end of his term will start a war situation this country and the world has never seen before.
If at that time you have McCain facing Clintons in November it will not be hard to guess who comes out the winner.
If his opponent was Obama it would be more troublesome to McCain because by then the voters have become more familiar with Obama's brillance in thinking and problem solving and his willingness to negotiate.

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Use that impeachment energy to promote a fair election.
Posted by: milfordkid on Feb 7, 2008 6:36 AM   
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We all owe a lot to Daniel Ellsberg. But not only has the time for impeachment passed, but it was never a possibility, as Sanford Levinson so clearly explained in the Feb. 12, 2007 copy of The Nation.

In honor of Daniel Ellsberg and all people of conscience, please direct that energy to combating voter suppression and promoting fair elections in November. Each state has its own issues, but just to give an example: Indiana's Voter ID law is now before the Supreme Court. It will suppress the votes of people of color and will likely be upheld. Let's help everyone in Indiana to get the needed ID, unfair as the law might be. Do it NOW. Ohio and Florida will have their own issues, and checking in with the League of Women Voters or blackboxvoting.org would be a start.

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I agree with everyone else that
Posted by: fsuthai on Feb 7, 2008 6:42 AM   
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this Democrat-led Congress has been a mystifying and completely disastrous failure. I really hate the thought of Bush/Cheney finishing their terms of office without official rebuke for their many crimes. If they do, then Nancy Pelosi should be tried for treason...along with the other main 'Impeachment obstructionists' in both Houses.

Another thing that bothers me though is the 'title' of this article. I don't know if Sari is responsible but I'm tired of seeing Daniel Ellsberg always immediately identified as "whistle blower". I would have enjoyed the article more had it been entitled: "Patriot Daniel Ellsberg..."

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» RE: I didn't vote for Pelosi did you? Posted by: common intelligence
CAN'T WE STOP TALKING AND JUST DO IT ?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 7, 2008 6:56 AM   
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Too many people have presented good reasons to impeach Bush and Cheney only to have their books/articles published and then disappear. Must be a dozen. Is there one 'brick wall' that they all run into? I dont believe it's Nancy Pelosi. Something or someone stops all these people most of whom are well informed. Then there's The Constitution. There's a reason why nothing has gotten off the ground over the years. I wonder what it is. Thanks, ANNA

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» It *IS* Nancy Pelosi Posted by: meetmeineleusis
» RE: It *IS* Nancy Pelosi Posted by: Lauren
Two things I wish the candidates
Posted by: steven w on Feb 7, 2008 7:02 AM   
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would address: Bush trying to jump on Iraq
FISA

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Impeachment is not an option
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Feb 7, 2008 7:34 AM   
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Because majority of Americans don't think that US invasion of Iraq was illegal or wrong.
Most of us believe that it was a bad mistake, and that we should just simply pull out.

As for Iran, Bush will most likely start a bombing campaign and not a ground invasion. Although US has been running covert operations against Iran as documented by Sy Hersh.

Panama, Grenada, Nicaragua, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Iran...we don't care. Just don't institute a draft, and let us watch our 'reality shows'...

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» Impeach and Then Hang the Lot of Them Posted by: left_libertarian
The Clinton Experiance give diplomacy a chance
Posted by: solrev on Feb 7, 2008 7:43 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The nuke threat from Iran has been reduced to “they could do it in the future” and the Iraq war is going so well that, we can not blame Iran for the failure. An Iran Tonkin is a possibility however Bush has run out of time. If Bush attacks Iran, Iran will not retaliate with any thing more than a token response; they will wait for Obama. The demon congress will elect Obama by destroying the Clinton experience (sounds like a Jimmy song “The Clinton Experience”). Impeachment for the demon congress is too much like the pot calling the kettle black. The Clinton Experience want Bush on that wall, they need Bush on that wall. Clinton can not win the presidential election without Obama and Obama can not win the presidential election with Clinton. Will the real VP please stand up? Diplomacy - give peace a chance is what the rest of the world wants. However, the brain dead still believe that the Islamic fundamentalists are at war with us, we are just a recruiting poster. The Islamic fundamentalists are at war with the Islamic nationalists. We need to help the nationalists by quit helping the fundamentalists.

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» "The Demon Congress" Posted by: form516
War-Criminals
Posted by: QQOblivion on Feb 7, 2008 8:13 AM   
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Bush IS literally a war-criminal. He really is. If he is unimpeachable, due to the lack of patriotism and bravery from certain people in Congress, then I would hope to everything good that he get arrested and tried someday for his war-crimes by an international tribunal. Probably won't happen, though, because the rest of the world's interests (economic and military, mainly) are too intertwined with America's interests. But in my opinion, Bush is worse than any "enemy combatant". He and Cheney should be kidnapped, rendered, flown to Guantanamo, tortured (Hey, it isn't REALLY torture, is it?...), and held indefinitely without trial or any due-process at all. They really do deserve that treatment. They really do.

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» RE: War-Criminals Posted by: jeffrey7
Watch Dog
Posted by: borsch1 on Feb 7, 2008 8:19 AM   
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As we look over the "Candidates" that are in the front row so far, i see NO-ONE who will seriously travel away from GW's plan for "Global Empire Building". All so far have said at one time or another that they would "WIN" an unwinnable war, Keep a sizeable contingent of troups in Iraq FOREVER, and continue on this senseless demonizing of Iran.
I agree with a previous poster, Impeachment must be put on the table. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, Rice, and Powell. Any and all who led us to the killing of MILLIONS of innocent Iraqies, and the wanton wasting of our military heros to date!!

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So a war with Iran...
Posted by: form516 on Feb 7, 2008 8:22 AM   
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...if declared shortly before November, if a large enough "incident" could be concocted that Bush could blame on Iran somehow...and play the fear card big time on the population again...would he be able to declare martial law and postpone the elections indefinitely? I mean, congress has not stood in the way of anything else he has done, why would they stand in the way of something like this? That manipulative sociopath has gotten away with soooo much up to this point. Why would he stop now? I'm just sayin...

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» Terrorist Posted by: HeKnew
Bush has a sinister plan
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Feb 7, 2008 8:30 AM   
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Start a war with Iran. That would devide both parties. Make a election almost impossible creating an opportunity for him to declare the election null and viod,suspend it's outcome and keep the presidencey. if we try to stop him,he can declare us 'anti-american terrorists' turn the National Guard against the people and expand his stranglehold on us. Think he won't do it? Just remember how he got his power. Behind a very scared nation,at it's weakest point when everyone wanted action over honest investigation of who the true perps were. We can end this idiocy without a coup-de-tat. He's bringing us to the brink of revolution. Those running are'nt much better,but Bush don't give a shit about them either. He thinks he's above any citizen,Law or reprisal.
Draft Jeffrey7 for Prez '08
www.youtube.com/RevJeffrey7

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» Terrorist Posted by: HeKnew
What are the Options?
Posted by: Southern Gal on Feb 7, 2008 8:30 AM   
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If Bush and Cheney leave the White House without being impeached, what are the remaining options to hold them accountable for their many misdeeds against this country and the world?

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The key to getting Bush and Cheney is Sibel!
Posted by: rockpicker on Feb 7, 2008 8:40 AM   
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Her testimony in public hearings will blow the lid off this administration, all the way back to 9/11.

It will involve both sides of the isle, and that's why Waxman has been 'preoccupied.'

Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Eric Edelman, Marc Grossman, Brent Scowcroft, Larry Franklin, Dennis Hastert, Roy Blunt, Dan Burton, Tom Lantos, Bob Livingston, Stephen Solarz, Graham E. Fuller, David Makovsky, Alan Makovsky, Yusuf Turani, Sabri Sayari, Mehmet Eymur and more.

This is it, folks. Your chance to stand up for America.

First and foremost, contact your local media outlets and demand they begin carrying the Sibel Edmonds story. Once that happens, the ball will be rolling and Bush and his buddies won't be able to stop it.

Write letters to the editors of your local papers. Do their work for them.

For an overview of Sibel's case, go here:
http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/

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Impeachment? Where are the hearings on all the crimes?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Feb 7, 2008 8:56 AM   
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Major crimes and failings of the U.S. government and BushCo that have not been investigated:

1) The failure to find any WMDs in Iraq and the falsified "intelligence".

2) The fraudulent FBI coverup of the anthrax attacks of Fall 2001.

3) The collusion between Wall Street and federal regulators in the subprime collapse.

4) The fraudulent contracting operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

5) The rise of monopolistic corporate cartels in areas such as telecommunications, energy, health care, etc.

If the Congress won't even address those basic issues, who in their right mind would expect them to impeach anyone? The corruption in politics is endemic - at least 80% of the Senate are corporate tools, bought and paid for. The judiciary has been politicized by decades of right-wing Republican political appointments, and the executive branch is in the grip of wannabe dictators. The press, which is supposed to be revealing all this rot to the public, is owned and controlled by the same people who pay off the Congress in order to keep those juicy contracts flowing.

I mean, we have the New York Times being rewarded with a Poo-litizer for burying a story about illegal domestic spying by Bush until after the 2004 election! How corrupt and dishonest and laughable can we get?

Calls for impeachment? In this situation? Talk about naive. What's really needed is an end to the empire and the restoration of the republic. That is not the agenda that the corporatocracy wants to see discussed, so there's no mention of it.

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Right on time
Posted by: GEM-592 on Feb 7, 2008 9:39 AM   
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I knew I could set my watch to another "Bush is going to attach Iran soon" article, there's been one every several months for the last several years. I'll refrain from repeating the reasonable and logical (even from the perspective of Bush's cabal) explanations why this will not happen anytime soon, and simply say * no chance *

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Isn't the deliberate cutting of communications cables
Posted by: rockpicker on Feb 7, 2008 9:47 AM   
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an act of war?

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bigtime
Posted by: pnut on Feb 7, 2008 9:55 AM   
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Well, here I go again (impeach Mr. Bush & Co.) AlterNet readers say the same as I do impeach Mr. Bush & Co., but the news media all of them do not say a word about impeachment. Do we wast our time reading alternet I have not seen one thing to tell me otherwise, I know we must impeach Mr. Bush & Co. all of the readers say impeach but not one thing happens not one thing in the media, so we are just pi----g in the wind. What just kills me is Mr. Bush & Co. can do any thing he wants and not one news person will say a word about it, I know that in the last 7 years more than 600,000 people have been killed because of lies and half truths, who do we blame is it us the news media our gutless people in washington who? or better how do we stop this murder of so many good people our people and the people of the world? what must Mr. Bush & Co. do for us to have it up to here and stop this murder of so many good people? who and how can we stop this killings? AlterNet I know you all are trying but we need you to take the bull by the horn and lead us threw this mess we have let our self get into, AlterNet we need your help now more than ever. If you all take the lead I and I think we all will help you to save us. Bill Davidson

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We Are Not A Christian Nation....
Posted by: JonA on Feb 7, 2008 9:59 AM   
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I realized that Bush had a mental problem when he stated to the press, a few years back, that he talks only to God for advise... Question, as our balancing Congress will not back the people, how do we put this insane man in a cubical so that he stops American killing machines that are bringing new terrorist to life daily....The young in the mideast, who have had their families murdered from American and Israeli bombs, from the air, are holding a hatried that is giving birth to new recuits by the thousands. As an American, what would you do if it was your family murdered by this stupidity from the Bush admisnistration? We are not a Christian Nation.... No where in the bible does it say to kill those that do not agree with one. We have lost our democracy.....Damn Bush/Chenny... and our corrupt Congress and Senate. As a senior, I have only contemp for those who have put our Nation in a position as we have now. Will it ever be like yesterday?

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mooseman01
Posted by: mooseman01 on Feb 7, 2008 10:22 AM   
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Bush Cheney belong in jail! Having said that and having hoped for Impeachment several years ago, I do not believe we should now go into an Impeachment mode, far too great a diversion with a national election 9 months hence. Corner the rat and he would become more unpredictable and dangerous.

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Hey, Alternet, what's with rockpicker?
Posted by: rockpicker on Feb 7, 2008 10:30 AM   
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Why can't we rate rockpicker's comments?

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» RE: Hey, rockpicker... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Hey, rockpicker... Posted by: rockpicker
launch of an Iranian rocket into space
Posted by: militaryhater on Feb 7, 2008 10:52 AM   
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Did anyone on this blog catch this news story on Wednesday?

Here is the link to the article on the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7230396.stm

All the US needs is Russia and China on their side and they will attack Iran. Since Iran tested this rocket, it got Russia nervous and the probability goes up.

I am not afraid of Iran. Even if Iran had nukes they would never launch them as they know what would happen if they did...a destruction of our world as we know it would happen. No one wants to die. The Iranians are a country of intelligent people and even they don't want to launch a nuke. If Israel launches a 'nuke', they would experience the 'fallout' as well as they are very close to Iran. Iran just wants to be a major player in the world and get the respect that other nations that possess nukes get. They also will be safer as a country if they possess nukes as other countries would be too afraid to attack as it could unleash a nuke.The Pakistan crisis recently shows how keyed up the US was about the Pakistani nukes getting into the wrong hands..my oh my...what could happen.

Bush could create an incident and cause another war. Afterall, he is leaving. After the election in November, he has a couple of months to launch an attack. Maybe he is waiting to see if a Republican or a Democrat gets elected. If a Democrat gets elected, the more reason to launch an attack and put it on the next President.

His attempt to pass his '3 trillion' budget was to extend his 'dictatorship' role into the next Presidency so he could control the next five years. He is slimy but we will never see an Impeachment. The Democrats who are running don't want to go through it, too afraid maybe of the consequences of pursuing that. I sometimes think all that pursue the Presidency seek a dictatorship in this country so they are fine with the changes Bush has made. We are already headed that way as it is. Afterall, all who seek power in a sense are narcissistic..so absolute power they all would love. The more power over others they have, the better for their egos.

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Impeachment is a NECESSITY!
Posted by: Quannah on Feb 7, 2008 11:22 AM   
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"...Because majority of Americans don't think that US invasion of Iraq was illegal or wrong..."

(from a post above)

Lying to get us into an illegal war is only one reason for impeachment! There are so many more, and they continue to rack up on almost a daily basis!

If we take impeachment off the table, then our Constitution isn't worth the parchment it's printed on! Which is more important? Keeping our Constitution safe, or not "inconveniencing" Congress over the next year in order to actually impeach?

Without impeachment, we may as well have no Constitution. And that means Bush has truly won.

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Impeachment will be a natural outgrowth...
Posted by: rockpicker on Feb 7, 2008 11:42 AM   
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of letting Sibel testify in open, televised congressional hearings!

You're wasting time and energy commenting here.

Write your local papers and media outlets.

Get out the truth, via the editorial pages.

Force the editors to silence your voices, or let you speak.

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www.StopTheNextWar.com
Posted by: StopTheNextWar on Feb 7, 2008 11:52 AM   
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If what he says is true PLEASE stop the next war on Iran. Enough is Enough. Visit http://www.StopTheNextWar.com to get the Official NO IRAN WAR shirts. We must do everything we can to stop this from happening. If we thought Iraq was bad, we havent seen anything yet!

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Attack Iran
Posted by: rafey on Feb 7, 2008 11:55 AM   
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There is little doubt that an attack is imminent. Here in Florida, just North of Egland AFB, already I am hearing the jets performing nightly practice runs just as I heard them prior to our Iraq engagement !!!

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Propaganda
Posted by: modeler on Feb 7, 2008 12:32 PM   
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The inventors and producers of the speedboat movie went one better just a few days ago when the pentagon aired what they said was a movie showing AlQaida training children as terrorists in Iraq. Certainly the actors were children carrying rifles etc and banging down doors eerily similar to the practice of the US Army. It was said that the film was found in a raid on a terrorist base in Iraq, but was made with a perfection that only Holywood could improve. To me it looked like the stuff that comes from embedded propagandists ala Joseph Goebbels. CNN aired it and commented about the danger that child soldiers represent. They obviously did not question the quality of this movie and the unobstructed action in an Iraq supposedly under US control. Bush is the worlds worst dangerous individual not to say terrorist. It would be no surprise to find out that he is behind this. Neither would an attack on Iran be a surprise after the illegal war in Iraq. As a born loser his success would be like his accomplished mission of May 2003. High time to stop him and his slantfaced sidekick Cheney.

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» Bush is not alone... Posted by: Cathyc
Oy!
Posted by: dockboy on Feb 7, 2008 2:04 PM   
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We are NOT going to invade Iran. Articles like this are why Alternet seems to have less and less reliability as an honest news source, and only serve to rile you guys up. Look at your postings: IMPEACHMENT