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ForeignPolicy

Anti-U.S. Uproar Sweeps Italy

By David Swanson, After Downing Street. Posted May 8, 2007.


The U.S. government has proposed to make Vicenza, Italy, the largest U.S. military site in Europe, but the people of Vicenza, and all of Italy, have sworn it will never happen.
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The U.S. government has proposed to make Vicenza, Italy, the largest US military site in Europe, but the people of Vicenza, and all of Italy, have sworn it will never happen.

As with the story of the Downing Street Minutes two years ago this week, a major news story and huge controversy in Europe right now is unknown to Americans, despite the fact that it is all about the policies of the American government. In February of this year, 200,000 people descended on the Northeastern Italian town of Vicenza (population 100,000) to march in protest. Largely as a result, the Prime Minister of Italy was (temporarily) driven out of power. Meanwhile, just outside Vicenza, large tents now hold newly minted citizen activists keeping a 24-hour-per-day vigil and training hundreds of senior citizens, children, and families every day in how to nonviolently stop bulldozers. The bulldozers they are waiting for are American.

The conflict, should it come about, will be as surprising to American television viewers as were the attacks of 9-11, unless someone tells them ahead of time what is going on. This week a group of Italians is in Washington, D.C., attempting to do just that. A group of Italian Members of Parliament also visited Washington last month in opposition to the base.

To understand this story it is necessary to be aware of a few basic facts that Americans are not supposed to be aware of, including that our military maintains several hundred bases in other people's countries, and that many of the residents of these countries resent the U.S. military presence. (Of course, the alleged planner of the murderous 9-11 attacks said he was reacting to U.S. bases on foreign soil, in that case in Saudi Arabia. The Bush Administration closed the offending bases.)

In addition, it is helpful to understand that Vicenza is a UNESCO World Heritage site, a beautiful treasure of a town showcasing the renaissance architecture of Andrea Palladio. Reflecting on this makes it easier to put into context the proposal for Vicenza from the U.S. military and the reaction of the people who live there.

If you google "No Dal Molin" you'll find 83,300 results. Dal Molin is the name of the proposed new military base. This compares with 9,290 for such an important news story as "John Edwards' hair." But the only U.S. media link you'll find is Democracy Now, which interviewed one of the Italian activists in Washington this week.

In Italy, the women leading the opposition to the base, women who were housewives and had never been activists until news of this proposal leaked, have appeared frequently in the media. Here's a television news show video in Italian (click on "Puntate," scroll down to "Vicenza," and click). And here is an activist's video in English.

Since this story broke last year, Vicenza has become a focus for peace activists in Europe, including Americans living abroad, and has been the site of numerous protests and acts of civil disobedience. There is another protest march planned for this coming Sunday. (Flyer).


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Way To Go!
Posted by: Tom Degan on May 8, 2007 1:24 AM   
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Hats off to the good people of Italy! Just between you and me and the lamp post, were the Italian govermnet to propose putting up a large military base in my back yard - count on it - I would be screaming bloody murder!

Ask your self this question: Who the fuck do we think we are anyway? More and more people across the globe are starting to realize that the good ol' US of A is no longer (and hasn't been for quite some time) part of the solution but is, in fact, part of the problem. It's up to the people of the planet earth to shut down our out of control Military Industrial Complex. It's obvious that the people of the United States don't have the guts to do it!

Maybe that will be the one good thing to come aout of the disgusting reign of George W. Bush. Yes, folks! There is a silver lining behind this nasty cloud! MAybe the people of Europe and the Middle East will finally send us home to clean up our own mess. Think about that for a moment! Who the hell are we to force our "moral values" on the rest of the planet when our own house is such a dreadful, fucking mess?

Just a little food chow to much on....

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: Way To Go! Posted by: schokoprinz
» Are you serious? Posted by: ateo
We should imitate the Italians. NOW!
Posted by: HughScott on May 8, 2007 3:11 AM   
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In 1966 after nine years of Air Force active duty as a Regular officer, I resigned my commission and became a Vietnam War protestor. I wasn't alone in expressing my anger at a GI body count that wouldn't stop growing but I feel that way now.

Where's the outrage, America? How can you stand by and do nothing while our soldiers continue to lose their lives and limbs in Iraq?

There's a simple but powerful way to end Bush's insane war of choice -- for patriotic persons living near Washington, that is. Every weekend, get in your cars, drive to D.C. and starting circling the White House with horns blaring.

Are you people in Virginia, Maryland, New York and other close states willing to make that minor effort? Probably not, which make me wonder how many more GIs must die before we follow the example being set in Italy.

Hugh E. Scott, the editor of King-George.biz, the ONLY website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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» Well... I don't think that would bother W Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
Go Home!
Posted by: andyc on May 8, 2007 3:41 AM   
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Vicenza is a beautiful city that does not need corrupting with a US military base. But then, nowhere else does, either.

Congratulations to the citizens of Italy for sticking up for themselves!

Now, will the US military *finally* go back to the USA, where it belongs?

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Hoorah! Way to go Alternet!
Posted by: Poe on May 8, 2007 4:12 AM   
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Anti-U.S. Uproar Sweeps Italy

With this headline.....Alternet readers get excited....and before this post dies......readers will respond with "bravo Italy"...."cheers to the Italians" anybody that hates the US is alright with Alternet readers!


Poe

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» You're shaking your cannoli in anger? Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
The US guarantees their security
Posted by: Bobsays on May 8, 2007 5:36 AM   
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And they should be grateful for that. I would also remember not to take the Italians seriously since we know how they behaved in WWII (flipping sides more often than a short-order cook). Most Europeans bitch about this stuff but are not up to do the hard work of making themselves safe. Until they step up and take on the real security needs out there, this band of aggrieved lefties need to be ignored.

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» You're kidding, right? Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» Oh, Puleeze! Posted by: dkm
» RE: Oh, Puleeze! Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» RE: Oh, Puleeze! Posted by: pingoo
» RE: And you are Schmutz. Posted by: blitzmesser
Ironic when you look at how BRAC & the "National Guard" work at home
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on May 8, 2007 5:36 AM   
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It's funny that our military overseas delights in putting bases where the populace does NOT want them! Every few years at home we have the supposedly de-politicized BRAC system (Base Realignment and Closure). What always ends up happening is, the Southern-dominated US military wants to close most of the bases in the North & much of the West. Then Congress has to step in to stop them from, say, closing every single base in New England, as they tried to last time.

And of course, whenever there's a natural disaster we can't expect much help from the "National Guard" -- even in loyal Republican Kansas -- since they are mostly in Iraq.

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Wrong Base & The Wrong Place
Posted by: NoPCZone on May 8, 2007 7:44 AM   
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The downsizing and re-scaling of our military footprint in Europe- of which this is just a part- is a proper and needed thing. However, the plans drawn up by Rummy and his staff are a mess and are not suited to the needs and interests of the US, NATO or the host countries (primarily Germany and Italy). The community in question is but one of many issues involved in this change.

We do need some troops based in Europe in order to keep our troops trained and ready as part of our commitment to NATO and are treaty-bound to do so. The realignment of forces was designed to scale down our presence while giving us the type of units needed to meet our treaty obligations. USECOM (US European Command), sees an increasing role for forward based US troops involved in Africa and is increasing our Italian-based forces as part of that strategy.

We should not base our troops where they are not wanted, and I do not think that most Italians are opposed to the relatively small contingent of US forces based in Italy. The question is where they are based, and northern Italy is not that place. The US and Italian government should work together to find a more suitable place in a less-crowded part of Italy- possibly one that could benefit from the economic development it would bring.

Contrary to the tone in the essay- the presence of a Brigade Combat Team in Italy does not constitute an occupation. That's not only a stretch- it's an outright lie. A couple of thousand troops in a nation of almost 60 million people is way less than a drop in the bucket. I agree that a re-think of our basing troops in Italy is in order, just with a different purpose in mind. Instead of walling our troops off in a 'Little America' enclave, we should house them on Italian military bases and force them to engage the culture and people of the host nation.

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"Italy is a country of limited soverignity and an American colony"
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on May 8, 2007 8:53 AM   
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according the report written by Giovanni Pellegrino in response to the infamous (and unknown in the USA) campaign by NATO/US/ItalianElites called the "strategy of tension". This campaign, strategia della tensione, was designed to keep Italy free from communism. This involved allowing far-rightist to commit acts of terrorism which would be claimed as communist. Allowing the far-left communists to bomb sucessfully. And, possibly, even actual govt/US/Nato doing false-flag operations. Interestingly the campaign was based around the infamous P2 masonic lodge whose members were also involved in the infamous 'vatican banking scandal' as well as other Italian intrigues. The result being that it is illegal, now, in Italy to be a member of a secret society. Please google these items for more information. Very interesting story and has applications to later events seen in Turkey, Greece, and maybe even the USA, UK, etc!
search for:
"strategy of tension"
"P2 lodge"
"propaganda due"
"vatican banking scandal"
"Olof Palme"
"Roberto Calvi"

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Haven't you realized that the will of the people is secondary...
Posted by: ateo on May 8, 2007 9:42 AM   
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to the will of the elites who actually run a country? I spent a few years at a base only a few (actually, 176 kilometers) miles from Vicenza that was remarkably not mentioned in this article, Aviano Air Base. The Air Force had to relocate the 31st fighter wing to Aviano from Spain after the Spanish government kicked them out of the country. The cost of this move was paid for by NATO primarily rather than the U.S.

Aviano is also where the nukes are kept by the way. Before anyone accuses me of divulging secrets you should know that there are aerial photos of Aviano with the locations of the nukes actually circled freely available on the web - so don't send the FBI after me. It's common knowledge.

Clearly the Italian government, for whatever reason, is willing to base U.S. troops on its soil and make promises that it will continue to allow this into the foreseeable future. Naturally there are Italians who disagree but one of two factors off sets this fact: either there is a silent majority that supports it, or the will of the people is secondary to the will of the elites that run Italy.

As for the complaints about Americans causing traffic problems etc. I will say that driving in Italy is a remarkably different experience from driving in the U.S. The rules for right of way are different and the roads are horrible. It is nothing for you to be driving down the road (no lines or shoulder by the way and barely wide enough for 2 vehicles) and that road to narrow to 1 lane because there is a building blocking half of what used to be the road, or a pass under a bridge that is only wide enough for one car etc.

I saw many accidents in Italy and the vast majority were the fault of the American drivers. Crime and other problems? Well let me just say that Italian men are very proud and boisterous. They are also very small and typically don't expect to get punched in the face as quickly as they do when they get in the face of an American. Let's call it a clash of cultures.

Oh and by the way outside of the areas directly surrounding the military bases in Italy American servicemen frequently get jumped just for walking into bars.

"Yankee go home", you get used to seeing that spray painted all over the place. Northern Italy is a beautiful part of the world however, and the culture of Italy is very interesting. How they can work so little, eat so well, and still manage to stay slim and avoid homelessness is a mystery to me.

I'd much prefer a 38 hour work week with siestas and 4-6 weeks of vacation a year over 50+ hour weeks with barely an hour for lunch and 14 days off a year like we have in the U.S. The U.S. is a very sick nation and spending a year or more living in a functional European nation will make that crystal clear to you.

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A united Europe
Posted by: willymack on May 8, 2007 10:16 AM   
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In times past, Europe was a miasma of feuding principalities and nation-states. Now, you can drive your car through all the countries there and across nominally national borders with nary a second glance from the locals. There is no Evil Empire, (the former Soviet Union) to fear, and Europe is united far more than we Americans pretend to be. If there's any threat in the area it's the growing economic might of a united Europe and the rapidly vanishing hedgemony of the good ol' U S of A. The REAL reason for the bushies and their neothug backers' desire for a huge base anywhere in Europe is to preserve something that is rapidly evaporating before their horrified eyes, namely their economic preeminence, hence the presence of military bases to bully and intimidate the people there.

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Media Useless
Posted by: JSquercia on May 8, 2007 5:10 PM   
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The most amazing thing is that in spite of the fact that this is a big story over there , we have NEVER heard of it . The media is too busy covering such critical stories as Anna Nicloe Smith and yes still Natalie Holloway . There is always some new breaking news on the Holloway case at least according to Fox News .
I had the good fortune to visit Italy twice in recent years and found the Italians liked Americans but distrusted and disliked our Government especially Bush . The first visit was just after the begining of the Iraq Invasion at that time everyone I met questioned the war . The second visit was shortly after that Italian Security officer was shot on the road to the airport in Baghdad escorting the journalist who was released . The attitude was less welcoming then .
Sadly we are indeed viewed abroad as spoiled children and with Bush in the White House it is a rather apt description

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too much hyperbole and not enough information
Posted by: Caslon on May 8, 2007 7:49 PM   
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I have a problem with this article. It's pandering to me and not giving me a whole lot of information. For instance, the U.S. may be wanting to make this the biggest overseas base, but exactly how big is that? How big is it now? What kind of base is it? Infantry, Artillery, Cavalry, mixed forces (i.e., Army, Navy, Marines, etc.).

How strategically valuable is this base? Are there alternatives to this site?

What, specifically, set off the objections and the protests? All I read here is generalities.

It is not true that most Americans don't know we have bases all around the world and that they don't know the locals don't like us.

The loss of our bases in the Philippines were widely covered by the MSM and the ongoing problems on Taiwan are in the public eye several times a year.

Millions of soldiers have been overseas since WWII and are overseas now. They have families. The families get letters. Overseas bases are not a secret. They're common knowledge.

What it comes down to is that while I don't mind politics mixed in with reporting, I at least expect some reporting. This article falls way short. Next time, give me old Journalism 101 and cover the who, what, where, when, and why with more substance.

Oh, and one more thing. Resist linking to other sources to save yourself some words. Less hyperbole will give you the room to present more facts.

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Fiber Optic Cable
Posted by: Dboy on May 8, 2007 9:58 PM   
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Digging out the cable is ok, but there's a better tactic! Slice into the cable with a razor and then re-bury it cleanly. The damage with remain undiscovered until the cable is needed, and will be alot harder to determine the location of the break. Not that I would ever recommend actually doing this of course.

Dboy

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Hugh Scott’s swan song: “Adios, AlterNet bloggers.”
Posted by: HughScott on May 8, 2007 10:17 PM   
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During the past five months of AlterNet commenting by yours truly, the hits on my nonprofit website, King-George.biz, increased more than I could ever have imagined -- as the following numbers show:

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Rather than AlterNet posting, I have decided to use other methods of publicizing King-George.biz, which features President Bush’s falsified biography, the one I found in 2004 on a U.S. State Department website and reported to the Boston Globe.

For starters, I will write personal letters about the “Bogus Bush Bio Caper” to all Democratic members of Congress.

I also want to finish my second nonfiction book about Shrub titled, “LIAR-in-CHIEF,” and promote the first one, George Dub-ya Bush, THE PHONY FIGHTER PILOT, published in 2004.

Finally, I need more time for other creative endeavors of mine -- such as writing novels, cartooning, painting and sculpting -- plus enjoy the company of my wife of 49 years, Jean, my 13-year-old grandson, Dustin, his mother, Julie, and other Scott family members. And, of course, I will continue my participation in MoveOn.org (I’m a four-year member).

Good luck to all of you. It’s been fun.

One more time --- Hugh E, Scott, the editor of King-George.biz, the ONLY website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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