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Ending Indefinite Detention Is AlterNet's Top Take Action Campaign of the Week

By Byard Duncan, AlterNet. Posted July 8, 2009.


It's up to us to make sure that Obama does away with this horrid Bush administration legacy.
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Perhaps attempting to quash rumors that he would use an executive order to continue Bush-era detention policies, President Barack Obama last Thursday told the Associated Press that he would consult Congress before making any decisions on the issue.

"It is very important that the American people and Congress, in conjunction with my administration, come up with a structure that is not only legitimate in the eyes of our constitutional traditions, but also in the eyes of the international community," he said.

Indefinite detention is "one of the biggest challenges of my administration," he added. "It gives me huge pause."

His hesitancy to plow ahead unilaterally with legislation that would deny legal rights to "enemy combatants" is encouraging, but it also raises questions about where the issue might end up once it fades from the political limelight.

Obama has, after all, adopted a troublingly contradictory attitude toward the constitutional rights of prisoners. Earlier this year, in the midst of a well-publicized campaign to shut down the prison at Guantanamo Bay, he approved a $750 million expansion of Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan -- another preventative detention facility that operates outside any legal jurisdiction.

Equally controversial is Obama's refusal to pull indefinite detention from the bargaining table altogether, a move that has infuriated human-rights advocates.

"Any continued policies of prolonged detention without trial, of Guantanamo detainees, simply fails to turn the page on the counterproductive policy of the Bush administration," Human Rights First's Devon Chaffee told the Washington Independent. "We oppose any prolonged detention without trial beyond what is already authorized under the laws of war. If an individual committed acts of terrorism, they should be tried in our regular federal courts."

Obama has said the White House intends to "proceed very carefully on this front;" but his floundering rhetoric indicates just the opposite. It's time to let the administration know that it must put an end to George W. Bush's egregious violations. The White House must not continue to chip away at universal ideals of compassion.

Join thousands of others who are telling Obama that they oppose indefinite detention, whether through executive order or through congressionally approved legislation. You can do it here.

Here are the rest of our Take Action Campaigns for the week.

II -- Pressure Obama For A Public Option

Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean is among the many in support of a public health insurance option, and he has put together an organization designed to mobilize progressive support. Standwithdrdean.com allows citizens like you to urge policymakers to vote down any health-care legislation that doesn't include a public option.

Standing with Dean means joining nearly 400,000 others who refuse to wallow in the mires of "middle ground" politicking.

After all, Obama's "urge to compromise," Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman notes, "will lead him to negotiate with himself, and give away far too much." It's up to us to see that he doesn't.

III -- Tell Clinton to Halt Dirty Oil's Onslaught

Did you know that the dirtiest oil megaproject in years is in the midst of sneaking across our northern border?

Did you know that a huge chunk of this project -- the Alberta Clipper Pipeline -- is up for approval by the U.S. State Department?

Right now, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has the power to halt the Alberta tar sands, a project that harnesses one of the most environmentally damaging sources of energy known to man. Clinton can help America take a step toward a clean energy future, but it's up to us to remind her of that future's importance.

Tell Clinton how important a clean energy future is to you.

IV -- Stand up for the Marriage Rights of LGBT Couples

The right for gay, lesbian and transgender couples to marry has been codified in Massachusetts, Iowa, Connecticut, Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire. The battle for this important civil rights issue continues to rage on in New Jersey, New York, California and Oregon, and many other states have begun to take auspicious steps.

We're gaining ground, but we must voice our support for this human right. Join thousands of others who have made marriage equality their fight. Be part of the right side of history.


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Wake up!
Posted by: progressive-life on Jul 8, 2009 5:27 AM   
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released terrorists right back into the battle field!!

"According to a spokesman from the Yemeni Embassy in Washington, nine foreign nationals -- four German adults, three small German children, a British man, and a South Korean woman -- were abducted on June 12 after they ventured outside the city of Saada without their required police escorts.

Days later the bodies of German nurses Rita Stumpp and Anita Gruenwald, and Eom Young-sun of South Korea were found shot execution style in an area known to be a hotbed of Al Qaeda activity. The fate of the remaining six abducted people remains a mystery.

Terrorism experts say the crimes bear the mark of Al Qaeda, and they fear they are the handiwork of the international terror organization's number two man in the Arabian Peninsula -- Said Ali al-Shihri, an Islamic terrorist who once was in American custody but who was released from the U.S. detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba."

"A former Guantanamo Bay inmate,Mullah Zakir, also known as Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, is leading the fight against U.S. Marines in the Helmand province of Afghanistan, a senior U.S. defense official confirmed""

Fuck the ACLU and the far left loones who are more concerned with reading miranda rights to terrorists than they are about the safety of American servicemen and women!

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» RE: Wake up! Posted by: cplot
» In case you havent noticed Posted by: progressive-life
» God damn, you are a jackass Posted by: QQOblivion
» RE: God damn, you are a jackass Posted by: progressive-life
» RE: Geez! Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: God damn, you are a jackass Posted by: peacefullaim1
» In case you havent noticed... Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: In case you havent noticed... Posted by: progressive-life
» RE: In case you havent noticed Posted by: progressive-life
» RE: In case you havent noticed Posted by: peacefullaim1
» Send Israel the bill Posted by: weathered
» RE: In case you havent noticed Posted by: peacefullaim1
» Cowardly idiot Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: Cowardly idiot Posted by: progressive-life
» RE: Cowardly idiot Posted by: weathered
» RE: Wake up! Posted by: peacefullaim1
Innocence Be Damned
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jul 8, 2009 7:49 AM   
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Just today there is news that the Obama administration is thinking of KEEPING Guantanamo detainees in prison EVEN IF THEY ARE ACQUITTED by the so-called military tribunals (which are show-trials).

Keep in mind that guards and interrogators at Guantanamo have had no problem torturing even those everyone KNOWS are innocent! As a matter of fact, the torture has INCREASED at Gitmo since Obama has taken over. (Mostly because the guards at Guantanamo think the infamous prison will be closed soon. But it won't be. So, this is the worst of both worlds, since the guards are acting as if they have to "get their kicks in" now.)

Obama = Bush.

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USA is getting more like "the enemy" every day.
Posted by: kateco2 on Jul 8, 2009 9:20 AM   
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Any of you who are not sickened by the idea of "indefinite detention" cannot claim to be progressive, liberal, or pro-human-rights.

I heard this on the radio this morning and literally gagged. This country is circling the drain - if we can't or won't protect simple human rights, if we don't abide by our own "self-evident" rules, how can we expect any other country to do so? How dare we go to other countries and "teach" them how to run government/economy/etc., in other words, to be "like us"?!

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Throughout my childhood, my mom always did work with Amnesty International; go look up their website - see if the USA is any better than any other country on their watchlist. Then try to go feel good about being American.

http://www.amnesty.org/

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» Pls. free US from Israel Posted by: weathered
Obama's inaction and failed promises
Posted by: Jaffe on Jul 8, 2009 10:20 AM   
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Is it ambivalence, hypocrisy, fear of burning political bridges before his next presidential run, or is he simply not the intelligent, compassionate human many of us wished him to be?

Whatever the reason or combination of reasons, Obama's "compromises" and constantly gauging of the official political climate are very bad news for progressives--and especially for suffering humans, such as the indefinitely detained prisoners, many of them teenagers and adolescents, who have been tortured but not tried; to choose one egregious example from the several cited in the article above.

I can't say whether Obama is comparable to Jimmy Carter; we remember how hamstrung Carter was through most of his presidency, but then made useful humanitarian interventions after he was out of office.

In any event, less high rhetoric and more direct action are what we need from Obama now. It doesn't look as if we will get it.

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Is this the "America" we came halfway around globe for?
Posted by: danielet on Jul 8, 2009 10:45 AM   
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For over a decade after reuniting our family in Western European refuge, my father dragged us from country to country insisting that we must keep going West in order to reach his dream "land of freedom and the rule of law," the USA. It's good that he is dead for he would suffer terribly seeing that many of the Communist practices we sought to escape are imposed in America by the very anti-Communist "defenders of freedom" of the last decade. Rather than admit that 9/11 was due to the airlines' violation of the law made in the 1970s during a spade of skyjackings-- to keep the pilot's cabin impenetrable-- thus allowing four airliners to be sized in 10 min. each, they have created a scary monster of a mere tactic, "terrorism," and are wasting our volunteer patriots massacring Muslims so the neocons can feel their "mensch-hood" duping what they call us "dumb goyim" into a useless Crusades. They manipulate our fears for profit (as they did during the Cold War) for the military-industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about. Now we pretend that the many men picked up in Afghanistan for bounty will attack us if we give them any human rights. Are we Americans so dumb as to let the neocons scare us into pissing in our pants in endless fear? Gitmo must make the Founding Fathers roll in their graves. America's heroes who died fighting for freedom and the rule of law died in vain as neocons, using the very Leninist techinques they learned as Commies: polarize to mobilize, are making us into their fascist puppets who do the fighting while they cash in on it. Is Obama just the Bush saga continued? Only Gitmo will tell for sure, stay tunned!

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DREAM act? Only with a stipulation
Posted by: Old Skeptic on Jul 8, 2009 12:09 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I would accept passage of the so-called DREAM Act with the following stipulation: those affected would NOT be allowed to sponsor their parents or siblings (or aunts, uncles, cousins, or anyone else). Doing otherwise would reward the very lawbreakers who brought these kids here in the first place, knowingly violating our law and national sovereignty. So, legalize the status of the affected kids, but leave Mom & Pop and the rest of the family to work out their own immigration problems! Otherwise, we are rewarding the lawbreakers.

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FREE Act : Freedom Restrictions Easement Enforcement Act
Posted by: aouie01 on Jul 8, 2009 1:46 PM   
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This is a creative thinking and problem solving exercise and will need more hashing out before being formalized. This could be one of the best hopes for the cessation of horrors for any innocents caught up in related dragnets.

Just like torture can appear like a good choice to many in some theoretical ticking (nuclear) bomb scenarios, indefinite detentions can appear like a good alternative in some theoretical situations compared to releasing someone freely. I would prefer that we used something like the following limited regulated indefinite restrictions on freedom instead of illegal indefinite detentions.

FREE Act (Freedom Restrictions Easement Enforcement Act)

Anyone who is in the US, the US armed forces or works for the US government, who detains or causes to be detained (i.e. no renditions, mercenaries, etc.) any person in violation of the below freedom requirements is guilty of a felony punishable by at least (say) 1 years and at most (say) 20 years per violation.

A> No one is to be detained for more than 60 consecutive days. No one is to be detained for more than 120 cummulative days in any 1826 day (5 year) period.

B> An additional exception of 30 days in any five year period may be granted by a federal judge. (Note: This is to account for unforeseen scenarios and will give congress enough time to rework the underlying failings. Any judge who misuses this provision should be pro-actively removed from office.)

C> For the purposes of this bill any person who is not generally free with the following exceptions is considered detained:
1> Serving out prison sentences handed out by regular courts of law. (Note: This should exclude military tribunals.)
2> Placed in a mental institution after careful review by regular courts of law.
3> Denied permission to leave the country. (Note: This exception is to address the fears that the people will leave the country and do some harm later on.)
4> Have a tamper-resistant tracking device with or without a monitoring device, and with or without an attached person disabler. (Note: This is to address the fears that the person may engage in terrorist communications or that the person could harm someone within the country. The person disabler could be as embarrassing as a GPS device strapped to the neck with an electric shocker or mini-bomb to ensure that the person can be killed before the person can harm another.)
5> Be escorted by federal agents at all times. (Note: This is to address the fear of the person finding some way to get rid of the tamper-resistant devices.)
6> Prohibitions from not giving people a reasonable opportunity to stay at least 3 feet from the person. (Note: This is to consider the possibility of someone who is suspected of being determined to to kill at least one other person. Such provisions are not in the legal system right now, but any illegal enforcement of this by the assigned federal agents would not be prosecutable under the FREE act.)
7> Denied driving privileges, or other similar direct access to technology that can be used to cause grave harm to others. (Note: This is for someone like in the above case to not be allowed to plow a car into people.)

D> Any person who has any of the special restrictions placed mentioned in part C of this bill, other than C1 and C2, is to be provided all of the privileges and benefits provided to those in (say) a witness protection program, including free board, food, clothing, chauffeuring, etceteras. (Note: The additional expense may be frowned upon, but we should try to never be in a situation where large numbers of people are being subject to the exceptions.)

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Sincerely,
Aouie

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Israel's gifts to America
Posted by: weathered on Jul 8, 2009 2:26 PM   
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acrimony, angst and a cd-rom of new problems and enemies we never had before. C.O.D

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Ya know, ending the indefinite Obushama 'Wah Own Tara'...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 8, 2009 6:32 PM   
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...would go farther towards ending indefinite detention than just ending indefinite detention.

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"It gives me huge pause." It should. So should Torture!
Posted by: JohnHKennedy Denver CO on Jul 9, 2009 8:14 AM   
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Obama: Indefinite detention is "one of the biggest challenges of my administration,"
he added. "It gives me huge pause."

It should. So should Torture.
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