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Supporting Obama's Push For a Public Health Option is AlterNet's Top Campaign of the Week

By Byard Duncan, AlterNet. Posted June 16, 2009.


The time is now: Help Obama secure a reasonable option for the millions of Americans who don't have health care.
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I -- A Public Health Care Option Is Within Reach! It’s Time For Americans to Step Up

On May 28, President Barack Obama told volunteers from Organizing For America that a public health care option needed to happen sooner than later. If the necessary legislation isn’t pushed through this summer, he warned, it will not happen at all during his presidency.

"We need health care reform legislation that works, that preserves what works about health care, that fixes the things that are broken," Obama said. "And I think the status quo is unacceptable."

Creating a viable public option is more than a political necessity, the president added. It is a symbolic gesture to Americans who voted for change in November.

"This is our big chance to prove that the movement that started during the campaign isn't over, we are just getting started," Obama said. "The election in November -- that didn't bring about change, that just gave us the opportunity for change. So now we are really going to have to remobilize. We had a chance to catch our breath after the election. We got a lot of things done in the first four months. But health care, that's a big push."

Continuing to make good on his campaign promise, Obama stood strong Monday in his address to the American Medical Association. In a speech directed toward members of the nation’s largest community of physicians, he targeted the tangled bureaucracy that prevents millions of Americans from gaining access to reasonably priced health care. He also attempted to quell concerns about forceful government involvement and cuts in doctors' pay.

"I understand that you are concerned that today's Medicare rates will be applied broadly in a way that means our cost savings are coming off your backs," Obama said. "These are legitimate concerns, but ones, I believe, that can be overcome."

He added, "What we seek is more stability and a health care system on a sound financial footing. And these reforms need to take place regardless of what happens with a public option."

Obama’s comments are an indication that a remedy to our broken health care system is within reach. But it’s also up to us to make sure the issue gets all of the attention it deserves. That’s why MoveOn.org's efforts to support a public health insurance option is our top Take Action campaign of the week. Tell your senators and representatives that a public health option is absolutely necessary. You can do it here.

Below are the rest of our Take Action campaigns for this week.

II -- Free Imprisoned Journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee

Laura Ling and Euna Lee, two American journalists reporting from the China/North Korea border, have been sentenced to 12 years in a labor prison for what North Korean authorities called a "grave crime they committed against the Korean nation."

The legal process surrounding the women’s sentencing was a flagrant violation of due process, Amnesty International has said: "No access to lawyers, no due process, no transparency: the North Korean judicial and penal systems are more instruments of suppression than of justice," said Roseann Rife, Amnesty International's Asia-Pacific deputy director.

In addition to accomplished journalists, Ling and Lee are sisters, friends, mothers and daughters to many. Their sentence is outrageous and should not be tolerated. Join thousands of others who have signed a petition urging North Korea to release them.

III -- Save California's State Parks

On July 1, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is planning to slice the state parks budget in half. Then, in 12 months, he's looking to eliminate funding for state parks altogether. This means that 220 state parks will shut down -- 80 percent of California's entire system.

The economic consequences of this move will be dire. In addition to sucking much-needed tourism revenues from local businesses, the decision will lay off thousands of state park employees, many of whom have put in years of service.

Join the Sierra Club in stopping this outrageous move. Tell the governor and state legislators you want to keep the parks open.

 

IV -- Tell Shell Oil Co. to Stop Gas Flaring

On June 8, Ogoni plaintiffs scored a major victory against Shell Oil Co., forcing the company to pay $15.5 million in a settlement. Shell had been accused of complicity in human rights abuses, including the slaying of resistance leader Ken Saro-Wiwa, in the oil-rich Niger Delta. The decision was a major turning point in the case.

But it is still only a chink in Shell’s armor. The company continues to engage in "gas flaring," burning off gas released by oil extraction. Flaring endangers human health, harms local ecosystems, emits large amounts of greenhouse gases, wastes tons of water and violates Nigerian law.

The people of Nigeria will not be granted true justice until Shell ends its dangerous practice of gas flaring once and for all. Urge Shell CEO Jeroen van der Veer to stop the company’s campaign against the health and well-being of the Ogoni people.


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We MUST have health care reform NOW
Posted by: tmullins on Jun 16, 2009 1:53 AM   
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We MUST have health care reform this year. As a former health care giver, I am sad to see Profit Care is now more important than Patient Care. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 In East Tennessee and southwest Virginia what the heath care system is selling is nothing at all like what really is their "acceptable standards " on public record in Greeneville, TN Federal Court, cases no. 2:04-cv-375. Apparently it's legal to lie about health care and legal to run false and misleading advertising about health care in TN & VA.

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WE WILL SEE HEALTH CARE REFORM IN 2009
Posted by: drricklippin on Jun 16, 2009 3:40 AM   
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And it WILL include a public health option.

Enough stars have aligned and the President's popularity - despite a less than stellar Congress- will make it happen.

The Republicans remain MIA- missing in action.

Dr.Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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Protect who??
Posted by: warrior woman on Jun 16, 2009 4:36 AM   
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I don't disagree that we need a public healthcare option, however, if that "option" entails mandatory insurance premiums paid to another corporate giant, the door has closed and fascism is enacted. Yesterday, Obama spoke about tort reform, in other words, protection for corporations against citizens who are harmed. It's all about companies and businesses and very little about all of us/US.

Imagine being in a family of 4 with a gross income of 50,000. When you subtract 25% for taxes, you're left with $35,000 income to pay mortgage/rent, food, clothes, etc. Current premiums for healthcare are 13-16,000. We'd be mandated to pay insurance before we meet our own very basic needs of food, shelter and clothing. Great.

Take a look at the budget and get a handle on where our tax dollars are spent. We must keep in mind that what we're told is generally the direct opposite of reality. We spend over 50% of our tax dollars on the military. Add hl security to that and we're spending almost all of our tax dollars on war and population/mind/propaganda control versus doing a darn thing to benefit any of us.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget
/fy2009/summarytables.html

When we and our neighbors are listening to the news regarding these healthcare proposals, we better get our radar up because everything we're hearing is BS. I've worked with elder family members and have had not one issue with medicare. All of the issues come from the docs and insurance companies.

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» RE: Protect who?? Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
Public plan could mean more corporate welfare
Posted by: bthespoon on Jun 16, 2009 5:11 AM   
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Obama said, "Instead of government setting prices for our seniors, why not
have private plans bid for Medicare's business?"

The quote is from remarks Obama made to about 80 CEOs who are members of the Business Roundtable. They met with the
President at the White House on March 12, 2009.

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Do we care about each other or not? Health Care NOW! Yes!
Posted by: greentime on Jun 16, 2009 5:20 AM   
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Like everyone, I am one health care crisis away from financial disaster. Why? Because we do not have a viable health care system that meets our real needs.

What we do have is a business-based insurance system that puts profit $$$$ above care. It just doesn't make sense! Insurance has it's place but insurance is not care. It's gambling.
It is big companies, getting bigger by playing the odds and manipulating the poilicies we are offered so they will win.

I simply don't want some company rolling the dice and making decisions about whether or not I am a "good risk" when what I need is real and full health care if and whenever I need it! Why do we each deserve this? Because we are all fellow human beings. And just who is deciding whether or not we are deserving of care? Somebody who is paid to save their company money.

Here is what we need to come to terms with:
Are we fellow Americans? Do we care enough about each other to want the quality of health care we desire for ourselves - for everyone?

I don't want someone to have all the health care they need and someone else to not have enough. I don't want only some elderly to have long term care and others to struggle and suffer. Are your parents more deserving than mine to have elder care? Are you more deserving than I am to have quality health care? If you get sick, is it more important than when someone else does? I don't want to have only basic health care when someone else has total care for any incident, catastophic or long-term.

Do you?

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The debate is at least interesting. The health-care anti-choice crowd needed...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 16, 2009 5:30 AM   
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...a meme to counter the Clinton-model "mandates" and the Obama "mandate-lite"esque offerings.

Couching it as an "option" is a very neat way of saying "gimme yours". Some spoiled, mean little kids just never had to grow up, eh?

Kudos, Karl Rove would be proud!

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Obama's Hope-a-Dope game
Posted by: peacelf on Jun 16, 2009 5:33 AM   
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I'm already tiring of Obama. His rhetorical Progressive Hope game is not going to work on me any more. I've been disappointed too many times. There's nothing progressive about Obama's actions. Why haven't progressives hit the streets?

I think we see too many TV ads doing the protesting for us and are lulled into a false sense of Hope that something is happening, that the fight for change is on the airwaves, but it's not. The people who pay for those ads are doing The People a great disservice. The money would be better spent organizing a march on D.C., paying for buses to transport marchers, to buy signs and literature.

Obama has to hear our voices, see our faces outside the White House before he will consider the progressive changes he promised and didn't promise during his campaign.

Am I the only one who feels this way?

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» RE: Obama's Hope-a-Dope game Posted by: warrior woman
» RE: Obama's Hope-a-Dope game Posted by: january37
"Legal" vs. "illegal" drugs.
Posted by: wagner on Jun 16, 2009 5:39 AM   
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I would start with the elimination of corruption, fraud, extortion and conspiracy in the pharmaceutical industry, that produced “drugs” such as Vioxx. It resulted in more injuries and deaths than any of the illegal drugs, and its makers laugh all the way to the bank.

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Need Single-Payer, Not Public-Private Boondoggle
Posted by: Chuck23 on Jun 16, 2009 6:01 AM   
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The remedy to a broken healthcare system is universal, single-payer healthcare. The "public option" will be set up to fail, as adverse selection will direct those who propose the greatest risk into the public plan while the healthiest will remain in the private sector. When the costs for the public plan become too high, we'll be told once again that government is wasteful, doesn't work, and can't compare to the sacred and almight private sector. Obama seems to be leaning toward taxing employer-provider health benefits to pay for the public plan, creating taxpayer resentment against the public plan before it even starts. And since many will remain with their employer-plan, they'll be paying taxes to help subsidize the public plan, handing conservatives a hot-button issue for the next round of the politics of resentment. The AMA will always favor the financial interests of doctors over public health. Medical providers perform a valuable, difficult service and deserve to be well-compensated, but medical services should not be part of the marketplace. Many doctors should be ashamed of themselves for their outrageous charges and constant focus on dollars. Obama should have raised this issue when discussing the need for cost containment. Ultimately, the public plan will be one step forward, two steps back, as it will meet the needs of some, but represent a step backwards as it will keep a dysfunctional for-profit system in place and once again leave the best system--single payer-behind. Instead of supporting the Moveon.Org campaign, advocates should support Physicians for a National Healthcare Program, and Healthcare-Now.

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» RE: Amen, brother Posted by: DCostello2
'Trojan Horse' ....Absolutely
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 16, 2009 6:05 AM   
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Will a public option be a Trojan horse for Socialized medicine- Ya Betch'r Ass!
The Corps and their treasonous whores in Public office have prohibited WE the People from accessing the Other side of the market Table. It is not only our form of Gov't our Founders granted US to be 'Of,For and By the people' - It was also Our market place.
These Modern day Redcoats have blocked The peoples Right to be producers/ providers/ Merchants. They have essential returned the Ownership and control of the Market to the 'Merchant Class' and their "Noble' Family Crests. This is the same Damn BS that Our Founders rejected and Fought a Revolutionary War to Free US of.
As a Democracy, Our Govt's (Fed &State) ARE the collective embodiment of 'WE The People'- thus barring our Representative body from the market place is innately UnAmerican.
Let's also get another thing Straight- The only way a State could obtain Statehood Status was to concede to be 2nd fiddle to the guidelines laid out Under the Federal Unifiying Documents. The Providences of what is now Canada did not sign on so they Were not granted StateHood.This is the UNITED States, Not the European Union!!!! All for One and One for All- folkies! Feds TRUMP States. Otherwise you are admitting you have no allegience to Our Founders vision, nor the Guiding Principles they laid out to UNITE US.
Our Founders Clearly laid out the Principle of Every Citizens Right to "LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness" thus healthcare is a Right Not merely a priviledge. Why is it these so called 'patriots' are so eager to claim the right to life for a none born over a living registered citizen,Yet hold no such conviction when it comes to healthcare rights for living registered citizens. These aren't 'Pro lifers' , they are Pro Birthers, or at best PRE Lifers. If you are a avid defender of the Unborn, you should be even more adament about the Right to Life of the Born and living as well!
Healthcare is a matter of 'Life' thus it is unconstitutional to Not provide healthcare to Every citizens. Additionally Unconstitutional, because it barrs We the People from participating in the Free market as competitors. If "We" are relegated to only the Labor and Consumer facet of the Market and prohibited from the vendors side of the equation- We do Not have a FREE market!

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Value added tax
Posted by: james108 on Jun 16, 2009 6:22 AM   
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I agree with most of the posts that this is a wicked Trojan horse.

So far:
1 - Hinder people's ability to sue for malpractice to get doctors on board.
2 - Still shovel even more $$$ to the same system bleeding us dry.
3 - Subsidize a high cost, high risk pool where the real cost is masked through tax subsidies, which will certainly wreck the market.
4 - Reduce current medicare benefits, to direct people to this instead.
5 - Eliminate many employer tax incentives. He says you can keep your current insurance if you want, but can you if it's no longer offered and no longer is required or it costs your employer way more?
6 - Now the greedy feds are eying this as an excuse to take value added taxes or dig into the state's revenue even more, give less medicare money back to the states, and make states even more depending on fed money and fed strings, when it's the state's own taxpayers they took it from in the first place.

This is one of those things, like the lesser of two evils. Take it and we get screwed. It's not impossible to stand up for what we really want. This is not better than doing nothing, because if we don't allow this, we have a chance at something better. If we allow this, we'll only get another chance after the damage is done. Screw that now or never, this or nothing crap. If the democrats started acting like the people they claim to be, they could easily compromise on a fiscally responsible solution that actually helps the common person more than their greedy masters.

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» RE: Value added tax Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
news from the front...
Posted by: ellie on Jun 16, 2009 6:46 AM   
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had to have some badly needed and vital surgery last month (took 7 months of doc and us battling the insurance company convincing them that PT was only making things worse, finally they caved in)... the bills are starting to come in, but glad we are able to hang onto our insurance during these times... just some sticker shock of reality...

surgeon: $5,000.00 billed, $3,000.00 (negotiated) insurance paid and he was well worth the $3k... great job, he earned it (surgery could have been easily botched up with no repair option) and it was worse then he thought before diving in, nothing like delay surprises for all!!! fees include all post-op care too (like 3-4 months we figure)... surgeon happy, I'm happy, we're all happy...

out patient day surgery: was there a total of 4 hours, walk in to walk out hospital bill... billed $37,000.00 insurance paid $15,000.00 (negotiated)... the war has begun over a sudden $7,000.00 co-pay they can't seem to understand that we met our individual and family deductibles for the year already according to our policy!!! insurance company even backs us up but they can't make the hospital change their stripes either...

guess who is not going to get $7k??? yes, this hospital is part of a huge hospital racket here that controls all hospitals within a 70 mile radius...

do you see the disconnect here... doc was reasonable, considering everything but hospital has got to be dipping into their own drug stash...

not including the anesthesiologist, yet...

boy, do we need single payer health care at a rate that families can afford... NOW!!!

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Obamismal
Posted by: warrior woman on Jun 16, 2009 7:43 AM   
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We are all not the only ones "tired" of Obama hope. In fact, it's such BS I can't believe how duped we were. He's hired all the banking cronies, put one industry leader after another in cabinet positions, increased military and mercenary spending while decreasing programs that benefit us. All in the name of f'g fiscal responsibility.

The other day a woman said to me, "I want govt out of my pockets". She was a republican. What we all need to realize is that the vast majority of our tax dollars goes out of the country on war and what is left inside is fed by a silver spoon to the corporate giants. Healthcare is nothing but a damn drop in the bucket as is social security. If we did away with the war spending, even the special spending above the "budget" part, we'd have more than enough to pay for healthcare and social security plus our roads, education and many other programs that benefit us all.

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» RE: Obamismal Posted by: jstepp590
where are these firgures coming from?
Posted by: jstepp590 on Jun 16, 2009 7:57 AM   
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Why i it that every other first world country can provide health care for all their people for 7-11% of GDP but they tell us that it will cost us half our GDP to cover all of ours? Are these figures lies? What is it about our system that makes it so expensive here compared to every other country?

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Torn on Health Care
Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 16, 2009 8:28 AM   
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I always thought national healthcare would be a great idea. But HOW it is implemented makes all the difference. Will it go the way of the war on Iraq and be just another opportunity for private contractors to fleece the public? Will those in charge really represent the interests of the people, or be more corporate lackeys like those put in charge of cleaning up the banking mess?

According to this article on how so many politicians in charge of creating this plan have industry ties, I think we are in for more of the same:

http://shorterlink.com/?6AUJW6

I have no doubt powerful opponents of national healthcare made this info so readily available. But that doesn't mean it isn't of great concern. I have long thought that Tom Harkin was a dangerous enemy of real health. Attaining demagogue status for harping about obesity, what is lesser know is that one of his major campaign contributers in Herbalife. (According to Open Secrets.) Interesting that he and his wife have significant stock in Johnson and Johnson, whose major health campaigns via their front organization the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation do more to fatten the profits of J&J than improve health.

Health care under the corporations will concentrate on a few issues that are most profitable to them. A truly effective system that benefits all will be secondary. When oh when will the public wake up to the fact that the government has become nothing more than a vehicle for the kleptocrats to drive them to the poor house. With the bought off politicians serving as chauffeurs.

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Shame on Alternet, don't become a MoveOn by falling for Obama BS
Posted by: DCostello2 on Jun 16, 2009 8:34 AM   
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Shame on Alternet for pushing MoveOn and their support for a 'public option'. I'd rather see Obama's 'reform' fail than have that option succeed. The Obama 'public option' will be a toothless tiger that will do nothing for Health Care except help big Pharma and the Insurance industry. This co-op idea is a terrible one. Obama is a shill, don't forget that. We need single payer. We need HR 676.

The purpose of creating ONE large group instead of 50 smalls groups is to put pressure on the health care industry in order to drive prices down. ONE LARGE group has LEVERAGE. 50 small groups have NOTHING. A single payer system with the government as the payer and EVERYONE eligible will and should eventually push private insurance out of business and that's NOT a bad thing.

Shame, shame, shame on Alternet. MoveOn is a shill for the Democrats and the Democrats are a shill for big business. I really though you guys were better than that.

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The Audacious Dope
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jun 16, 2009 8:45 AM   
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If you were told in October 2008 that the next Democratic President would let Wall Street run his economics team, adopt Bush policies toward Iraq and Afghanistan, back away from Universal Healthcare and place Rethugnicans in key posts would you have voted or him?

I'm sorry, but I'm through with this dude. Obama can twist in the wind and go down as another Democratic disappointment.

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» RE: The Audacious Dope Posted by: madregal
» You Don't Get It Posted by: NoPCZone
» RE: The Audacious Dope Posted by: photon's feather
The Single Payer option
Posted by: TexasCowboy on Jun 16, 2009 8:53 AM   
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Is just that, an OPTION. For people who support 'free market' the democratic process to give Americans an option is the American way to give us a choice. Medical insurance premiums have skyrocketed for working families an amazing 1,084% in five years. The number one cause and more than half of all bankruptcies in America are due to medical expenses and many of these people have insurance through private plans. 47 million Americans are currently uninsured including children. Only 60% of American businesses offered health benefits in 2007. What's more amazing to me is the way some Congressional leaders put their campaigns and politics over the health of Americans. Donations from the health care industry:
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), received $546,000
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) received $425,000
Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) received $413,000
Rep John Boehner (R-Ohio) received $257,000
Rep Eric Cantor (R-Va.) received $249,000
Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-N.D.) received $104,000
Rep. John D. Dingell (D-Mich.) received $180,000
and the winner is Chuck Grassley whose received a whopping $1.3 million.
I encourage every American to support their families and children by supporting the OPTION for single payer health insurance. If you do NOT want this option, stay with your existing plans, but do not tell me I should not have a choice.

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What else is going on
Posted by: PaulK on Jun 16, 2009 9:14 AM   
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The government is offloading all of its Veterans Administration costs by coercing ex-soldiers to sign away all their lifetime medical benefits. Hundreds of thousands of soldiers have brain injuries from bomb concussions, which is often a nonzero lifetime disability. They have Gulf War Syndrome. Of course they have missing limbs and body parts. Either a single payer plan picks up these wounded, or the private insurers will claim "pre-existing condition".

American medicine is singled out as being fundamentally incompetent at treating various chronic conditions: allergies, asthma, Gulf War,... As a rule, if you're not dying today, they're not helping today. I hope that single payer would focus medicine better.

We're dealing with four dark, evil medical secrets. First, any dentist who claims that mercury fillings leach out mercury, and you then swallow that mercury, will lose his/her license simply for speaking the truth to the public. Second, vaccinations damage many little kids. Third, if a drug is advertised on TV, just wait 3 years for the medical malpractice suit to be advertised on TV. Fourth, all the insiders know that surgery is full of really good doctors and full of butchers too, and outsiders (like you!) have no way of knowing the difference. You'll find out the hard way someday.

The working poor renters are shafted. The hospital can drain their attachable assets down to $1000 before Hilburton kicks in. The upper middle class own homes with mortgages, so they're already near $1000 in attachable assets because luxury homes aren't attachable. Talk about a big donut hole!

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» RE: What else is going on Posted by: madregal
And why would I want to do that?
Posted by: sherry on Jun 16, 2009 10:24 AM   
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Is there any disagreement that one of the major factors in our current economic crisis is the fact too many people signed on to too many contracts without reading them? I'm not even talking about reading the fine print in this case; I'm referring to the plan itself. Where is it? I mean which bill in Congress embodies Obama's plan? How many people are signed on to that bill?

There is no plan. No one has written the bill.

I'm insulted AlterNet is asking me to sign on to something that doesn't even exist.

At the same time, a single-payer bill not only exists in Congress, but it has the most support, currently 83 Representatives. That's not a majority, but it's way ahead of any other proposal. Now is not the time to give up on single-payer. Now is the time to push Obama and our entire Senate to putting HR 676 on the table. Now is not the time to give up and give in . . . to whatever.

Check out Healthcare-NOW to read the bill, find out who has signed on, find out what you can do.

And darn, I had hoped AlterNet wasn't a faith-based organization.

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Speaking of options rather than certainties
Posted by: sherry on Jun 16, 2009 10:40 AM   
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Sorry to post twice, but the word "option" concerns me. For the 46 million who aren't insured, we need a public certainty, not a public option. We need a public certainty for all of us, insured, uninsured, poorly insured.

The only certainty I see in any plan other than single-payer is more profits for insurance and pharmaceutical business.

On a slightly different note, there's going to be a lot of talk about malpractice lawsuits (always a good distraction), and in those countries that have national health care apparently this isn't an issue. It seems that when people know their medical costs won't bankrupt them, they're less likely to ask for huge settlements.

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There's no doubt about it
Posted by: willymack on Jun 16, 2009 10:40 AM   
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Obama is a gradualist. He prefers the "one little step at a time" approach over the all-or-nothing disaster which happened in the Clinton years.
It's apparent that if something resembling a public plan can be implemented, the people will quickly see how superior this is to dealing with the drug and insurance racketeers, and demand a true single-payer universal heanth care plan.
If a public option gets through the treacherous congressional maze, it'll take strict enforcement of existing laws and legislation of new ones, including price controls to keep the pharma and insurance crooks in check, otherwise, it'll go right back to business as usual.

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The devil's in the details...
Posted by: CatDad on Jun 16, 2009 11:19 AM   
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Sebelius stressed that Obama is open to compromise on the shape of the public plan, which doesn't have to be run by the government.
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A non-government "government" plan????? Let me guess: CIGNA, Humana and Anthem would run this "government" plan....

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» RE: The devil's in the details... Posted by: warrior woman
A Tactical Suggestion, If You Want The Real Thing:
Posted by: oregoncharles on Jun 16, 2009 12:09 PM   
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which is, of course, single payer.

Which the Democrats are AGAINST, for painfully obvious reasons.

So if that's what you want, you need serious threats. Hie thyself to your county elections office and CHANGE YOUR REGISTRATION (if you haven't already) to the only national party that campaigns for single payer:

The Green Party.

For some reason, the Dems are very worried about the Greens; hence the campaign of slander since 2000. USE THEIR FEAR - that's what it's for.

If you can't register by party in your state, you'll just have to write threatening letters and harass them when they're in state. Rotten eggs are very traditional. So they get the full message, carry Green Party signs when you do it. You can get them from the website: www.gp.org.

Oh, yeah: this campaign for the Dems' plan to give a trillion of your money to the denial-of-care industry is obvious B.S. I'm very disappointed in you, Alternet.

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» RE: Back to the rotten eggs. Posted by: oregoncharles
Healthcare Mercenaries
Posted by: warrior woman on Jun 16, 2009 12:54 PM   
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That is what the insurance company run "govt" program would be.

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The supine President
Posted by: Perry Logan on Jun 16, 2009 1:22 PM   
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There is another group who are organizing to make Obama bring an end to war:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/06/16-6

These groups are great, but I bemoan the supine President we seem to be stuck with, being carried forward by liberal and progressive activists.


Rupert Murdoch in Pain

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SIGN THE RIGHT PETITION: Single Payer:
Posted by: photon's feather on Jun 16, 2009 2:53 PM   
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Apologies for the caps (I almost never use them) - but this needed to be shouted out.

Petition for single payer health care:

Senator Bernie Sanders


To read more on HR676:

Dennis Kucnich

At the bottom of the page there are links:

1. summary of HR676
2. text of Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act
3. updated list of cosponsors for HR676

If your representative is not a cosponsor, email and call.

Toll free numbers for Capitol Hill switchboard:

1-800-828-0498
1-800-473-6711

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» RE: SIGN THE RIGHT PETITION: Single Payer: Posted by: photon's feather
Maybe Alternet Staff/Owners were tricked?
Posted by: james108 on Jun 16, 2009 6:56 PM   
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I have to believe that most of the people of this country are not truly evil, and many were just tricked into voting for a corrupt, elite imperialist president and congress.

Maybe Obama's people really made the poster think they were doing the right thing by posting this, please?

Help us help us by stopping the collaboration with the democratic party though, please. They are the biggest obstacle to progressive change in America, and offer corporate fascism as an alternative.

Traditionally, republicans defraud democrats, and democrats defraud the better options people really want, sending people back to republicans.

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thanks for this
Posted by: lostgirl00 on Jun 16, 2009 10:29 PM   
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just wanted to thank byard duncan and the folks at alternet for this compilation of actions. i really appreciate having these letter-writing campaigns consolidated into one place.

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HEALTHCARE: INCREDIBLE LIES
Posted by: reelman on Jun 17, 2009 3:21 PM   
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Sen. McCain: $1 Trillion for Kennedy Health Bill? From Where?
June 17, 2009

WASHINGTON — The Senate took its first stab Wednesday at overhauling the nation’s healthcare system in the Obama era, with Republicans demanding specific cost totals amid eye-popping estimates of $1 trillion-plus and Democrats determined to press ahead.

“This is about as historic as it gets for all of us,” said Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., who is overseeing the proceedings in place of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., who is battling brain cancer.

The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee began work on a bill encompassing President Barack Obama’s legislative priority. The effort marked the first time since President Bill Clinton’s administration that Congress has tackled such a broad overhaul.

High costs, uneven healthcare, and the fact that nearly 50 million Americans are uninsured have created the strongest political momentum for remaking the system in decades.

CRAWFISH NOTE: Here we go again…the secular socialists are about $9+ trillion in debt and they are pushing another trillion of debt on our children! This from a man who “worries about the deficits”…what a liar (again)…Here we go again, its another HISTORIC thing…WW2 was historic too…insane spending is historic. Teddy K already has a legacy…and she was buried young.

Its not an overhaul and there are not 50 million (the figure grows as needed to impress) uninsured who are legal citizens and want it but are too poor for any at all. Its like the number of homeless…make up a number…then double it…repeat with passion as needed. This is needed because they cannot show us a single country where national single payer healthcare is better than what we have now. Why not get the gov-meant off the insurers and medical folks backs? How about a volunteer national group akin to the Grace Commision to present free or nearly free reforms? Do those word “free” or “nearly free” stick in the socialist throat?

What is “uneven” healthcare? Is that like what congress has that you never will? Is that it? Is it thousands of leeches that run up your premiums by numerous ER visits for a sore throat? What is “uneven” healthcare…really? Its a term to impress the broke voters of a broke nation to go deeper into debt and gov-meant control.
This is the same gov-meant that ALWAYS is 300% off on any big program estimate…be it Medicaid or other ‘Social Services”…the Big Dig was 900% off. You gonna believe those lying snakes in congress again…suckas? The snakes are coming for a big dip into your wallet next year to pay for some of this socialism.

What is “historic and uneven” here is the nerve of the Dufus and his fellow socialists thinking we all dropped out of 8th grade. P-lease! We are beyond broke and its past time to reduce gov-meant and cut our taxes…which would really really be historic for a democrat administration.

http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/

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folic acid prevents harm from formaldehyde and formic acid made by body from methanol in aspartame
Posted by: rmforall on Jun 18, 2009 8:52 PM   
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re huge reduction in preterm births: folic acid prevents harm from formaldehyde and formic acid made by body from methanol in alcohol drinks and aspartame, BM Kapur, DC Lehotay, PL Carlen at U. Toronto, Alc Clin Exp Res 2007 Dec: Rich Murray 2009.05.12
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.htm
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1572

"Of course, everyone chooses, as a natural priority, to enjoy
peace, joy, and love by helping to find, quickly share, and positively
act upon evidence about healthy and safe food, drink, and
environment."

Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@comcast.net
505-501-2298 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505

http://RMForAll.blogspot.com new primary archive

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
group with 140 members, 1,572 posts in a public archive

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages
group with 1191 members, 23,458 posts in a public archive

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1490
details on 6 epidemiological studies since 2004 on diet soda (mainly
aspartame) correlations, as well as 14 other mainstream studies
on aspartame toxicity since summer 2005: Murray 2007.11.27

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1340
aspartame groups and books:
updated research review of 2004.07.16: Murray 2006.05.11

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SINGLE PAYER, not just public
Posted by: pigrock on Jun 19, 2009 12:04 PM   
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Shame on you for sending your readers to MOVEON.org to "Take Action" on Healthcare Reform. As usual, MOVEON holds its distance from the real facts and issues at hand. It is no surprise for it was formed to support the Democratic Leadership Council (and Clinton) and continues to wave the the Neo-Liberal Flag. The issue with healthcare is not simply to throw out the word "public" as it so easily is done by Obama and his ilk. Look rather at the idea of single payer (government) and private provider. Reform begins with eliminating the private insurance companies as being the primary payer and provider and profiteer. Healthcare is a basic human right, not a basic right of private profit. Watch a good overview of national healthcare plans on a past FRONTLINE show. It discusses the plans of Taiwan, Switzerland, Germany and the UK. It is a good launching point for discussion. There is also a detailed report of national healthcare programs from INSURE THE UNINSURED REPORT. Google it. Very comprehensive. Support the California Nurses Association in their brave efforts. Write you representatives in support of HR 676 (Conyers) or S.2031 (Sanders). Good luck to all of us.

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» RE: SINGLE PAYER, not just public Posted by: photon's feather
ACTION IS NOT WORDS
Posted by: reelman on Jun 21, 2009 5:56 PM   
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SMILING LIES AND DISTORTIONS WEARING THIN
June 21, 2009

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 32% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President.

Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -2. That’s the President’s lowest rating to date and the first time the Presidential Approval Index has fallen below zero for Obama...

AND THE HUGE TAXES ARE AHEAD OF US AS WELL AS THE USUAL SECULAR SOCIALIST TRIED AND FAILED PROGRAMS...its J. Carter Obama...suckas.

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CONGRESISONAL REPORT 6.22
Posted by: reelman on Jun 22, 2009 2:17 PM   
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Wasteful Spending Gets Worse >>>from REP. RODNEY ALEXANDER OF LA. 6.22.2009
Last week’s events in the U.S. House of Representatives did nothing to curtail the pattern of irresponsible spending that has been prevalent throughout the 111th Congress.

The House passed two of the 12 FY 2010 appropriations bills – the Commerce, Justice, and Science (CJS) Appropriations Bill and the Legislative Branch Appropriations Bill. The CJS Appropriations Bill appropriated $64.4 billion, which is $6.8 billion, or 11.7 percent, above the Fiscal Year 2009 enacted level, and provides funding for the Department of Commerce, the Department of Justice, and Federal science agencies, such as NASA and the National Science Foundation (NSF), and related agencies. The Legislative Branch appropriation totaled $3.674 billion, an increase of $237 million, or 6.4 percent, above FY 2009 (excluding Senate-only items).

House Republicans offered 94 amendments for the CJS Appropriations Bill, many of which were designed to limit spending. Unfortunately, the majority terminated debate after just 30 minutes into the first amendment, and continued to block amendments by approving only one of the 20 submitted to the Rules Committee for the Legislative Branch bill.

Here are the facts on spending this year:
• $2 trillion deficit for FY09
• Second portion of TARP funds allowed to be spent – $350 billion
• Stimulus (H.R. 1) – $787 billion (over $1 trillion with debt costs)
• Omnibus (H.R. 1105) – $409 billion
• The President’s budget increased total spending to $4 trillion in 2009 – the highest Federal spending as a percentage of GDP since World War II.

Federal spending is out of control, and the hard-working American taxpayers deserve better.

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